52 Reason / Record Tips - Week 3: Advanced Dub Step Wobble Bass Sound Design

[elias19]

It`s al little bit complicated to find out how the rate of the "right" thor is modulated. The rate is modulated by the first rotary of the combinator, which is modulated by curve 1 of the "right" thor. Am I right?

[RealOriginalGamers]

i keep getting a beep sound whenever i play a note before the basss wobles when i turn off Step Seq it goes away but the quailty goes down

[NexeusPariah]

Id love to comment on how these last two videos have helped... but you seem to skip a few steps that, while they may or may not be too important, confuse the hell out of me.

What does gating the midi accomplish? when did you do it? wth is the spider merger for??

All in all though, bitchen vids man

[animatestate]

This was a pretty good tutorial. I had been curious about the dub synthesizer sounds and was wanting a introduction to it using Reason and this helped.

[drydust999]

Thx very much!

[held1back]

im really confused, where has the second thor come from, you have missed out loads from the last video?

[held1back]

everything on the second thor i havnt seen, you didnt do a tutorial for it

[mcRioRemedy]

great tip number 3

[DarkHawk187]

this helped me learn a LOT

thanks a lot james, you rock

[djunderpar04]

Awsome i am trying to learn how th use the combinator

[intensityxc]

thanx for makin this :). 

[Kamihamihauk]

How have i never seen this before? Outstanding

[MSham29]

how do you import the whobble patch into reason 5??

[kunimaro15689]

so i tried doing this with my patch and it messed up my whole song. the combinator i tried this technique in is listed as wobble bass and its track doesnt play but all the others do. it played fine until i started modifing it. any help would be greatly appreciated

[VortexProducer]

LOL!!! Just woke people up in the house! Didn't think it was that loud but, its fucking well phat! I didn't download the patch I tried as hard as I could to replicate it without it being 100%. Just so it has my touch on it :) Great tutorial REALLY opened up my eyes to what Thor is truly capable of!

[Twentysixbillion]

Now I can appreciate this video, thanks James!

[RHenry92]

You said you showed us how to assign the combinator to the wobble rate... you never.

[mmdrummer5a]

@RHenry92 Just go into the combinator programmer and assign rotary 1 to w/e

[lzo210]

@RHenry92 On the combinator you click the show programmer button, which is to the left of the knobs and 3rd down from the top. Then on the left of the window that opened up, select the device that you want to modulate. Then go to the right and under modulation routing pick which rotary (knob) or button you want to use and then select which parameter you want to modulate.

[DjFooli]

<3

[Kardinalloffi]

good shit over here

[JimijaymesGuitarist]

When I added the spider cv splitter the step sequencer now only triggers sound as long as the notes as in a it is super choppy not a sustained wobble

[JimijaymesGuitarist]

@JimijaymesGuitarist Its the notes as well that play along how do i turn off the notes from the step sequencer

[ElevenMileWideSmile]

hey check out y channel i made my song using all reason and record(no dub)

[WezFX]

any chance of a link to a screen shot showing exactly how the back is wired up.

[trickybri]

great help! but do you need a combinator for this?

[WonKyDubstep]

cheers dude. going to practise this now :)

[DoobieJ]

Despite changing the curve knob to the settings he has, my speed of the wobble doesnt change at all. Anyone help?

[szidorbass]

@DoobieJ next to the run button change to REPEAT, than play. that was my problem too. it might work.

[tintala]

Hi James, maybe you have covered this, but how to do a "stutter" effect in Record. for example: it sounds like the clip is cut into pieces. I don't know how else to explain "stutter"..... thank you for ALL of you tutorials, without them where would we be?

[tintala]

without videos like these>>> it's like coming to a trainwreck everymorning, how the hell would anyone figure this software out? Keep these tutorials coming james they are indeed th emost sought videos for me on youtube.

[SparkyBTMP]

Great tutorial!! Thanks!!!

[bassline0121]

james, i think i love you :O been wanting a dubstep wobble thanks :D great tutorial

[kbrom16]

i think i may have missed a step, i cant get the frequency to change at each note, it shows the sequencer changing but the frequency stays the same on every note. HELP

[br1vs]

@kbrom16 i am having the exact problem, did you ever get a response?

[kbrom16]

@br1vs no i did not, im just going to settle for the manual automation for now until i figure it out :-/

[br1vs]

@kbrom16 no way man we should try to figure this out, I am guessing you are just using reason right?

[kbrom16]

@br1vs ya just reason, i dont have record. idk wat else i could do, i watched the video very carefully and made sure all the wiring was the same but it didnt do anything still.

[br1vs]

@kbrom16 this may not matter but what version of reason? i am running 5, and my best explanation is that the first thor is in no way connected to the second, other than through the combinator, and my rotaries aren't setup for controlling cutoff or anything other than the step sequencer. what do you think?

[kbrom16]

@br1vs im using reason 4, but i agree i dont think the 2nd thor is connected to the first in anyway. and i also dont think my rotaries are setup for controlling anything.

[EmantheBassist]

@kbrom16 Same problem man. I think this specific setup would be exclusive to 5.0. I'm trying to figure out how too though another way cuz I'm running 4.0 also.

[DJMrZodiac]

This one is just awesome! Keep this up 

[MittaSpitta]

how can you get the same effect in Reason 4?

[cloudspade]

How did you get your reason screen to the full size of you mac?

[jamesbernardmusic]

@cloudspade

It's Record not Reason.

[NicenEasyuk]

I have an issue, when i route the Step as the mod. It seems to only work through the left speaker until i press another note(if i legato, if i don't legato, it just stays in the left)

[BeatsNRhyms]

i bought the reason and record as dua,record seems lots of fun,but i do have to say,most tutorials look so complicated ,but yet fun to learn,but for now it looks soo difficault,anyways good that you do tutorials wich help :) i think without these videos people will never find out how they got that stuff to work,i use various hardware synths where its so easy on,even with the tempo speed ,change it live with a tempo button :) but i guess ones you know how to work it its easy and simple :)

[adventuresat25fps]

great tutorial.

A quick question - how do you create the magnify effect in your videos? (like at 1:07) Do you do it in post, or do you do it live?

Thanks and keep up the great work!

[jamesbernardmusic]

@adventuresat25fps

I use Screenflow for the screencapture and it has callouts for zoom on mouse pointer.

[oOoInStInCtoOo]

That Wobble sounds like Taz Buckfaster - Recovery

[Sephiztra]

I´d like to see a sidechain tutorial, alot of ppl wanna know about it i´m sure. what the best way to obtain the sidechain effect is. since this is very usefull in todays trance and house tracks. would be awesome :)

[wouterrr]

@Sephiztra Just create a compressor under your synth you want to sidechain, turn the treshold all the way down and de button next to it all the way up, to infinity. Connect the sidechain option on the back of your compressor to a bassdrum, when you trigger the bassdrum, the sidechain will activate.

[Filthstift]

@James:

Is this also possible with a subtractor setup?

[Rane909]

@Filthstift theoretically? yes

[jamesbernardmusic]

@Filthstift

Can you create a wobble bass sound with Subtractor? Yes.

Can you do the advanced random wobble speed selection using only a subtractor. No. There could be ways of doing it using a combintor and maybe routing a random LFO from a Malstrom to the Knob CV input... but it would be less controllable.

Thor is really the best solution for this.

[stussyboys]

why does reason sound weak when comparing it to vsts

[jamesbernardmusic]

@stussyboys

Turn all the effects and any additional processing off on those VSTs.. I think you might be surprised at what they sound like then. Reason and Record will sound as punchy/powerful as anything else if not better.. if your skills are up to par...

[aikighost]

What reason patches are you taking about specifically and what VST patches?

[stussyboys]

reason in general doesnt sound like much i cant get the deep bass sounds i can with say the massive vst sythn reason is great appart from the sound quality it sounds unprofessional

[aikighost]

Hmm, I hear that a lot and yet there are a ton of talented guys out there producing reason. So I got to say "a bad workman blames his tools".

[stussyboys]

a good workman uses the best tooles to get the best job done dont start with that crap work smart dont be a smart ass

[aikighost]

Hmm, I think you are just putting forward your opinion as fact and then not substantiating it.

I use Reason, Live and a bunch of analog gear to make my stuff. I dont hear any problems with reasons inherent sound but then I dont use presets.

[Rane909]

@stussyboys that just means YOU sound unprofessional with Reason

[stussyboys]

yeah thats right i sound unprofessional and u sound so professional i take it, i gaurantee u are one of these people who thinks they got there shit together when it comes to reason but in actual fact they are usless, how come liam from the prodigy seems to think that reason doesnt sound very good ? its not the first time ive heard a well respected producer say the same thing about reason or are they all unprofessional when it comes to using reason according to you they must be

[Rane909]

i actually listenned to your dub step track on your site and posted there as well, i dunno why You think YOU sound so unprofessional with it, albeit a lil dated with the wobble bass that had no flair, it was a VERY professional sounding track (imho) dunno why you dog ur self so... or i for that matter.. =)

[jamesbernardmusic]

@stussyboys

Ease up. Your personal opinions are just that.. PERSONAL. Our products are used by many professional musicians/artist/filmscore producers... the list goes on. We do not tout artist names/song names and so on.. but if we did the list would be LONG.

In the end whatever works for you, works for YOU. Bashing someones software of choice/production tools comes off as petty and counterproductive.

In the end.. a good song is a good song.. no matter what is used.

[Rane909]

Why does Reason sound wea when comparing it to a VST .. hmm... well, first thing is your comparing a vst, think about it, all the individual frequency osc. lfo's and reverb and delay units are already built right into the vst itself. making a candy little toy for producing by simply pushing a key versus actually programming a synth.

[SamHain1031666]

Rane909, I actually think stussyboys makes a good point, ive been using Reason for a while now and its just of recent became clear to me that its sound quality is actually quite weak. Dont get me wrong, Reason is awesome but its missing quality of sound, if it had that it would be perfect. I tried for ages to get a certain sound on Reason for ages and it never sounded right, i switched to ableton and i created exactly what i wanted in no time.

[Rane909]

@SamHain1031666 actually, you cannot CREATE sounds in ableton .. thats where your wrong, you mean to say that you pulled up a patch or sound ALREADY INSIDE Ableton (like a sample) and then fudged with it until you got "That Sound" you were looking for... big .. BIG Difference ..

[stussyboys]

no... he obviously means he used a vst plugin and got the sound he wanted better than he did in reason

[Rane909]

@stussyboys same thing dude, he didnt make the sound, thats my point. .. everyone knows that reasons sound engine was in need of an overhaul, hence why RECORD was released with solid state logic technology. no reason for anyone to bitch any longer

[esselfortium]

@Rane909 Reason's "sound engine"? No, sorry. Record has a mixer based around the layout and design of SSL's hardware, neither of them is doing anything to color your sounds.

Speaking as someone who has been using Reason since 2003, now doing 100% of my music in Reason 4.0 with no other software (or hardware processing) involved at all, if you can't get amazing sounds out of Reason, it's you, dude.

[Rane909]

@esselfortium hell, like I dont agree with you? talk to this wobble head Stussyboys lol

[SamHain1031666]

@Rane909 Im not wrong because i didnt claim you could create sounds in Ableton, i took a sample and altered it untill it sounded completely different and exactly to what i had in mind. Whats the point of creating in Reason if i cant get the sound i want coz of the shit sound quality?, id rather sample stuff and alter it, thats what the prodigy do and their 5 number one albums in the bag lol

[Rane909]

@SamHain1031666 actually, the prodigy has used reason since 2007 . . in the "bag" er... whatever you said .. lol

[Rane909]

@Rane909 cough .. 2004, sorry

[SamHain1031666]

@Rane909 Actyally if you do a little research youll realize the prodigy only used Reason to make one of their albums, Always Outnumbered Never Outgunned, which was their worst album. They used Ableton and Protools for their latest album. When asked in a recent interview about Reason, Liam Howlett said "im not gonna promote that software anymore" lol

[Rane909]

@SamHain1031666 so he is no longer getting paid via promoting it? or he is no longer USING it? BIG Difference, get it? anyway, enough fanning the flamer flames, TTFN bitches.

[Rane909]

Reason is a Synth Programing Device. its like the ultimate VST because instead of pshing a button and liking the sound but not knowing how its being produced, YOU are forced to create it ur self, hence why it works like REAL hardware. if you were to buy ANY piece of gear on its own it would sound no different, until loading through tube amplification and MANY different effects modules, be it hardware or software.

[Kamda]

I used Reason 3 previously, but found the audio quality to be way below Logic, and didn't go deep into the software.

I am blown away by Record/Reason 4. Propellerheads has created a monster, and the promotional videos really don't do justice to what is possible.

This is not an 'easy' or 'alternative' DAW. This is a whole new deal with interesting and infinite possibilities.

I'm very impressed, and hope that you guys are able to communicate what can be done.

[RoyaleFataleMusic]

this is nice, goes past the basic sine/square wobbles in most of the other tutorials

[GAF0007]

Hey James,

I'm not even a proper user of Reason but this is a awesome tutorial. I'M DEFINATELY GONNA CHECK REASON OUT NOW.

Peace.

G.

[souljalord]

you sir are a god!

[otgmusic]

Nice tutorial. However, why use a second Thor? You can use the step sequencer on the first Thor and just route it directly to LFO 1 Rate.

[jamesbernardmusic]

@otgmusic

Yes of course you could.. but I plan on doing more stuff with the sound and will probably use the Thor 1 step sequencer as well... no rules.. just go with it! Plus, I wanted to use the Combinator and show how to create patches that can be quickly modified by just turning knobs and pushing buttons.

[synthless]

great tutorial

[PathOfTheWolf]

thanx ! have bin waitng for this tutorial :) really helpfull. i have a reguest aswell, can you please make a Reese bass tutorial? that would be very nice thnx.

[otgmusic]

Three saw waves, slightly detuned from each other, run through a filter. If it needs beefing up, use another Thor with some more saw waves.

[916dpsmini]

Thanks James !!!!

Awesome !!!!

[fleetwoodsucks]

dubstep sounds like ass

[canvoodoo]

indeed