Irish Ways (part 1)

[vryselctiv]

can i get some adults and growns ups is what i keep asking from all of you

[TheHyperFlash]

Falls road.

[shughes375]

Did you record this in 1988 through your VHS system?

[Dilzybhoy]

@shughes375 Nah, someone else done it for me.

[63gc]

Why doesnt it say that IRA killed more Catholics over the last 40 yrs than the socalled enemy the Brit Army.

Or that the IRA carried out a Sectarian Killing Campaign against Protestants.

[Dilzybhoy]

@63gc Well they weren't were they really. Look at the figures. I refer you to a number of sources for this, try CAIN for a start. Then google who killed whom during the troubles 1969-2000. Bear in mind that it was only loyalist death squads that were active, with Paisleys backing from 1965-69, despite his forked tongue that splutters denial.

[garethella]

hmm, brendan davidson devotes his existence killing British troops or the RUC and then his family complain of collusion when he meets a fitting end??? im pretty sure that if i was in the RUC and the ira were trying their very hardest to kill me, i would be colluding my arse off, they want it both ways do the ira , theyre soldiers one minute , as soon as the shooting starts theyre brutalised civilians, using loyalist paramilitaries in TARGETED missions like this seems to me perfectly legitimate.

[Dilzybhoy]

@garethella Well that's just it you see. That was the whole point and it has swept cleanly over your head. Same rules apply. The Brits should not have been colluding with anyone if they had no strategic interest in the six counties. If the RUC was a police force, it should have trained to be one and acted like one - instead of a bunch of bloodthirsty animals. You can't just say 1 minute "if I was in the RUC... I would be colluding my arse off" and then complain about "terrorists". Dont u get it

[FIntyMAcC10]

makes me think if we had pushed harder during the conflict the ruc would flee desperatly

[NEONKUSH]

the audio sucks

[Dilzybhoy]

@NEONKUSH sorry about that. The film was taken from an old VHS video and transfered to digital format. You can watch the full documentary uninterrupted at viddler.com/explore/An_Fininea­ch/videos/6/

[WeedSeedsIreland]

@NEONKUSH back in them days the audiou would not be great :)

[HarmonicaKelly]

Ireland was partitioned in 1919, not 1922. Ireland was partitioned before the war.

[Dilzybhoy]

@HarmonicaKelly No it was done in 1921 3rd of May to be precise. The Government of Ireland Act of 1920 was the law that made Ireland into two separate states. Only by name of course.

[FreedomSaoirse]

Every bottle green uniform man with a legalised arm should be brought to book.

Collusion is no illusion

[FreedomSaoirse]

An Dorcha...RIP

[whataloadofbolloks]

amazing!!!!.

The deep divisions still exist within just these comments a historical portrayal of Irish-ness....When will the Irish mindset exorcise this demon that is hatred?

Wakeup

Peace

[Liam2621]

@whataloadofbolloks Amazing that all the divisions we're caused by the british, it will always be like this until britian goes

[jonyeire]

@whataloadofbolloks fuck you english wanker

[Lachausis]

What's with the old chap and ale in his hands?

[Dilzybhoy]

@Lachausis If a bomb goes off there's no insurance for pints of your booze so you just take it out with you and then when the bomb threat's over, either by the pub blowing up or by ascertaining it's a hoax, the old fella's still got his jar and the worst case scenario for him is it;s a real bomb and he'll need to change his local. But he's still got his Jar while they're all sorting it out.

[shughes375]

@Dilzybhoy His proberly dead now that old fella

[Dilzybhoy]

@shughes375 Well I hope he lives on in his friends fond memories. He does in this film, and he looks happy enough to me.

[shughes375]

@Dilzybhoy I see stakeknifes old place at 4:06

[Dilzybhoy]

@shughes375 We must have known we had scumbags among us like that. Christ the brits were full of moles themselves. The problem was everyone was running around pointing fingers at innocent folk and wanks like that walked off scot free.

[lostbhoy3]

awful times but some great views of belfast in the 80's.

[boy1belfast]

fighting for there country .. ireland for the irish.

[nephildevil]

and i tawt "Irish ways" just ment getting hammered and incomprehensible babbling about sports and politics ehhh i mean religion :'D

[parick73]

thats a very good and interesting vid. Thanx M8

[Isthisthelongestname]

Before I watch this, Is it an fairly unbiased doc? 

[Dilzybhoy]

@Isthisthelongestname To be fair, no, it isn't. However, it is still worth watching if your interested in the background and the roots of the conflict.

[monogirl3]

@Isthisthelongestname i would say no interpretation of a war can be unbiased. balanced yes, but not unbiased.

[firearmsops]

What happened at Loughall then lads? Did you forget to take the safety catch off?

[19SeanMurphy79]

For the old man at 5.55 its a bad buzz

[calBHA1]

tiocfaidh ar la

[kex2t7]

A vote for sinn fein is a vote for british rule in Ireland

[DukeWelliton9]

will these rock headed irsh men ever stop the brits are their they will stay

[Flipper79able]

BRITS OUT. It still stands. The reason there is problems there is because of the Brits.

[poufkimashoula]

What's the music playing at 2:41? Please.

[Aongie]

Its the tune from 'the fugees- ready or not'

[hughesms]

Enya, Boudicia from the Album The Celts 1992. Its the sample used in the Fugees song Ready or Not Here I come

[thedirtyfecker]

Clanad - The Celts

[Dilzybhoy]

Well take yer pick from this lot. It should be credited at the end of the last part.

[kex2t7]

@Dilzybhoy the fugies redy or not instrimental i think

[Dilzybhoy]

@kex2t7 The Fugies sampled it from Clannad I think mate.

[kex2t7]

@Dilzybhoy o right good man werre ya from yourself mate

[Isthisthelongestname]

see my other answer below or above werever it is mate lol!

[TheWolvie450]

@poufkimashoula The song is called 'Newgrange' by Clannad (the one at the start). Nothing to do with Enya (apart from Clannad all being members of her family). the second one is Enya.

[maddogpat]

@poufkimashoula enya beautice

[Isthisthelongestname]

@poufkimashoula

Its boudicca by enya mate!

[thecritic2007]

gotta love that old guy theres a 200bl bomb in te pub and e wanders out with th pint in hand

[balcurriskidz]

the war is not over a few weeks ago the ira ambushed police and put a bomb on a roadside to kill police patrol

[toobbee]

this viddy has no audio for me

part 2 does, but not this one?

[Dilzybhoy]

@toobbee Some of the videos has no audio in certain countries like Germany. If you copy and past the following viddler.com/explore/An_Fininea­­­ch/videos/6/ and make sure there are no breaks in it (remove the "%C2%AD%C2%AD" gibberish from the middle of it between the a and c of An_Finineach) then you should be able to see the video in one uninterrupted piece.

[skullywag999]

the brits used the kids as a sort of shield so they would not be attacked you ravinglunatic

[emm876]

go on home british soldiers go on home have you goy no fucking homes of your own

[MiCkYsLaSh007]

whats the tune at the start anyone know ?

Tiocfaidh Ar La 32

[tircrough]

@MiCkYsLaSh007 the tune at the starts called newgrange by clannad.who hail from Donegal.

[jamjarone]

the english authorities are false, they lie and portray themselves as the victims, they think it is their god given right to rule other nations, let me put it to you if the irish army came to england and said right we rule england you fight other nations when we say and we get mating rights with newlyweds if the english fight the irish army are the english terrorists? you brits dont even know who or what you are.

[jamjarone]

the british authorities are doing killings what does that say about england as a nation that claims to be world peacekeepers, the english are lying priveleged bastards they must pay for their crimes to humanity

[AnAuldDubliner]

Wow, very moving documentary. Prods in da republic dont come accross any discrimination, as said by the Ulster lloylasts, they need to see into relality and would have nothing to fear when Ireland Re-Unites.

[LOAD43]

ALL THREE INCLUDES BRITISH OK

[Fdarangers]

Your a fucking bullshit artist. You cant even see your our cock you fat retard.

[TEAMPOLTERGEIST]

brits should just fuck off and leave ireland

[rugger12]

and Ravingjunkey, you saw*. You didn't seen anything sir.

[rugger12]

RavingJunkey might be the least informed or historically inaccurate guy on here. You call IRA terrorists but not UVF, UDA people? Please....

[rugger12]

The majority are people who agree with their history of being forcefully placed there by the British. Therefore, it is not necessarily a democratic vote....it's gerrymandering to the extreme. We have that in the states, but it never deals with people being placed in regions. It only deals with the redrawing of districts. Here it seems the British were looking to pit Scot Protestants against Irish Catholics. It's messed up. Ireland is a land not connected to Britain. So it will remain

[yingyangsang1]

Only 6 counties of Ulster are in NI statelet, Ulster acctually has a nationalist majority so make it Irish. TAL

[leeslim06]

majority vote yea rite catholics didnt get to vote so they had no say if to stay part of britain or united ireland

[ozcrak420]

IRA GONNA FUCK YOU BRITS UP!

[useopenstupid]

Fantazzzztic not seen this one thenks loads weeee beauty! up the RA!

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Tiocfaidh ár lá

[surfshaman]

resist tyranny- power to the peope ira

[Freshhhhh1982]

Ive seen brits harrassing innocent catholics. Ive had guns pointed in my face for no fucking reason. Ive seen innocent men beat unconsious. Ive seen things beyond your comprehension.

[antz1916]

does anyoneknow the name of the music,that starts at 2:24 when brendan hughes is speaking?

[Dilzybhoy]

Not sure sorry. Probably claanad

[FROGGYDOHERTY]

what year was this 88?

[Dilzybhoy]

'89 the first one was, Patriot game was done in '79

[JoeJuve2k7]

yes but it all started with loyalists and ruc treating the catholics so bad they had to call on the ira for protection if loyalists hadn't acted like scum maybe the troubles could have been avoided oh and all the catholics wanted was their civil rights thats all

[Wamz1978]

@JoeJuve2k7 yes and this is what is always lost when the loyalists claim that UVF and UDR were merely "defending" Ulster... The IRA was a spent force, militarily, when the Catholics marched in 68 and 69... Furthermore, the general Nationalist position has never been the removal of the Ulster Scots, only the British... its not a bigoted position against them... The extremists, like Paisley, are/were angry because they want the priviledged apartheid of days gone by, religion is a red herring

[dannynavyboy1985]

@Wamz1978 I totally agree, I think the established unionist parties have a lot to answer for in terms of sowing the seeds of the previous conflict by their political hegemony and enforcement of catholics to live as 2nd class citizens. But, I fail to support any movement that uses violence to achieve its aims. I care little about whether I live in the UK or Ireland but I do care about the suffering of ordinary people who don't deserve this.

[gladiamfree]

Yeah i agree but keep ulster british the MAJORITY of people keep voting for it so why don't we agree with democracy?

[Dilzybhoy]

When did they last vote on it?

[gladiamfree]

every election is on this constitutional issue not for any other reason. And the Unionist cause has won more votes in every single election. 2007 being the simple answer

[Dilzybhoy]

@gladiamfree Very simple. Once you apply some thought to it, it's a different kettle of trout. The SNP are the biggest party in Scotland but do you think all of those who voted SNP wanted an independent Scotland. Same goes for the SSP, do you think before Tommy Sheridan started his ego trip that all SSP voters were socialist republican? Fact is people in Scotland and the 6 counties vote tactically. There has never been a referendum and no election is on that constitutional issue. Halfwit.

[Ducksexbody]

Where was the democracy when they took the land off the irish in the first place? Where was the democracy when they spilt us in two when the majority of the country wanted to say thogether just cause 6 counties had a majority of prod unionits that they planted thru the years? They have no choice like our people had no choice. Join or die.

[sercom24]

britan is not apart of ireland fuck the british fucking hate them

[fatherted101]

Yes but that "MAJORITY" were immigrants purposely planted there to displace the natives. They made no attempt; with honourable exception; to assimilate with the native population. They took over the lands of the irish in the north mainly and did more trouble than good.

[MacliamOg]

Ulster is NOT British!

Only 6 counties were retained by the crown at partition counties Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan form part of Éire. A free vote on partition across ALL Ulster, not just the gerrymandered statelet of Northern Ireland, might return a somewhat different result!

Notwithstanding the sensitivities of the Ulster scots, who fear their minority status in a united Ireland, like the Boers in South Africa, they cannot hold back the tide of change forever.

Beidh ár lá linn

[ikilledshergar]

gladiamfree, sorry but when are you speaking of? There NEVER has been a referendum on the union with Britain. There is the framework for one enshrined in the Good Friday Agreement however. 'Northern Ireland' is an illegitimate state forced upon the people of this island by the British. It has NEVER been sanctioned by the majority.

[SiMags]

Where to begin, well firstly, to be able to able to vote in Northen Ireland you have to have proof of cristizaship, e.g. prove you've been living in the country over a certain number of years, so in order to vote you have to produce records such as ID and work history, since Catholics at least until recently didn't have jobs, couldn't afford to buy homes and therefore un able to vote.

[Enderwiggan1]

Give Ireland back to the Irish please

[UnionoftheBrits]

but ireland is free. the only part of it that is part of britain, is the part where 76% of people voted to be british(ulster). it is a fact. im not anti-irish, im pro irish, and quater irish myself.

[Freshhhhh1982]

1. That vote was a very long time ago. The demographics have changed considerably.

2. Ulster includes Donegal, Cavan and Monaghan, which are part of the republic.

[Dilzybhoy]

That's a lie

[Dilzybhoy]

That was directed at UOTB

[ShankillRoadRIRA]

you ever kill anybody?

[Paitro202]

did you

[joedredd13215]

not bad at all

[mokies75]

Being nice to children? then why were 7 innocent children killed with plastic bullets in non-riot situations?by the sounds of things mate you don't have a clue

[fatlambscoop]

aii some are cunts - but you can't group a whole nation or a whole profession together because of a minority! As despicable as those deaths were, think about how many soldiers will have done their duty in NI and genuinely tried to help!

[Dilzybhoy]

I've always said that if there were any bad apples in my profession, I would either change professions or expose the bad apples. Or the whole barrel becomes bad. Evil exists because good people don't intervene.

[Japanorama]

@mokies75 I'm not for the brits or the irish, but the IRA killed/wounded far more than 7 kids, in fact they blew up a bloody child's hospital! Ireland should be given back I agree, but to be the better/bigger person violence on that scale should not be used in retaliation and vice versa.

[dannynavyboy1985]

@mokies75 And what about the children blown up in countless bombs eh? Warrington, Guilford etc etc. Don't pretend to me that the IRA care about people whether they are children or otherwise, bombs aren't designed to tickle and putting them in highly populated areas will always lead to civilian casualties. But of course the IRA don't care, a piece of land matters more than people's lives and in their eyes, the end will always justify the means.

[Dilzybhoy]

@dannynavyboy1985 And what about the countless atrocities committed by the crown forces (includes the DUP/UPV, PUP/UVF, UDA/UDP/DUP/UFF/B-specials/UDR­, Paras Bloody Sunday, SAS.) Monaghan and Dublin carried out with the knowledge of the British State. In fact a senior Unionist politician warned that "action would be taken in the south" just days before the bombings. The IRA simply took it to England to see how they liked it closer to home. They didn't like it.e.g.Birmingham 6 and Guildford 4

[Dilzybhoy]

@Dilzybhoy State Collusion - Not an Illusion.

[hhhaller]

good to see this.thanks

[homerbhoy1]

excellent documentary, does anyone have the documentary called "memories of the hunger strike of 81" its in 17 parts i managed to get 7 parts of it of a guy but the rest werent formatted or something and i want to copy the rest of it thanx lads,up the ra

[IgarcoI]

were can i see more documentrys like this and whats their names!

can anyone help plz??????

[Dilzybhoy]

I have a few more. If you contact me through the website or here, I'll point you in the right direction.

[dratsab1980]

I can HIGHLY reccommend Peter Taylors documentaries on here, Provos, Brits, Loyalists...

[Dilzybhoy]

Aye. I've got them. You can get them from a few widely used torrent sites.

[moorfields72]

United Ireland?????? aye you must be havin a laugh... never will there be a United Ireland... theres too many of us Crown defenders and Loyal Ulstermen stopping ye. United Ireland..... you had me going there for a while, thought you were being serious haha.

[corkygimpo]

so when europe unites what will you secatarian in breeders want to do?

[strengthnfaith]

If and when europe unites their will be a centralized government in Brussels who only want more money for Brussels... They dont give a flyin Fuck about the people in and outside of europe

[Dilzybhoy]

I agree with your comments about europe to a certain degree. I'm not sure about your love of Mahatma Gandhi who said the Jews should have submitted to the Nazis.

[Freshhhhh1982]

Its only a matter of time. Top loyalists have said it themselves. Plus were more fertile than youz tight arsed prod dickheads.

[Dilzybhoy]

Try to keep the sectarian abuse of the pages. You could have made a very valid point without resorting to the kind of sectarianism republicanism has been fighting against.

[Freshhhhh1982]

Hey im a product of my environment.

[Dilzybhoy]

That's just a crutch

[Freshhhhh1982]

Every single person on this earth is a product of their environment.

[Dilzybhoy]

It's still a crutch. In other words, an excuse. British Soldiers who exhibited the art of walking backwards on the streets of the six counties could say they're a product of they're environment. It's still no excuse. Same goes for paedos who got molested when they were weans. Still no excuse. Not that I'm comparing you to that scum.

[paddy54321]

jesus christ, the northern irish are tough, and the south sold them out in my opinion and i dont think theyll ever accept that point but they did and this is coming from a limerick man. rip brendan hughes, and i hope to god we eventually see a united ireland.

[EamonnKee]

Sold them out?? No! Remember all the loyalists were armed in 1912 and were very anti Home Rule. The treaty signed after the war of independence recognised the unity of Ireland but gave loyalists the opt out clause. The boundary commision was supposed to adjust the border to incorporate the nationalist bits but that never happened. Then there was a civil war in the SOuth over the treaty. There could have been a much bigger one. The IRA did not have the resources to continue the war.

[jaimiecurrie]

RIP up the ra

[cfcprovo]

rip brendan hughes

tioicfaidh ar la

[Dilzybhoy]

Fair comment but she was a tout. No matter what her family or anyone else says. Not because she comforted a murderer outside her house.

[masterfranks]

Jean McConville a catholic mother of 10 was abducted, shot and buried by the IRA her body was not returned to her family to be buried for 31 years and this was all because she had comforted a british soldier on the stret right outside her house that the IRA had just shot all because she had some compasion for another human being tit for tat arguments on these vids wont make either side right there have been many UNACCEPTABLE acts committed on both sides life goes on so go out and live it...

[Dilzybhoy]

It's not really funny at all. Loyalist death Squads were exactly that. You didn't get IRA units going around targeting Protestants simply for being protestant. And don't make me laugh about Individual soldiers or "policemen" handing info over to loyalists squads. Some of the "policemen" and udr were joint members of the death squads and with the full knowledge of Whitehall. The IRA got their info from activists on the ground and some like eamon collins who worked in the customs. Not comparable.

[24918433]

what the IRA did'nt target prods ! fuck off,

[Dilzybhoy]

NO they didn't and the figures prove it.

You fuck off

[24918433]

so the UVF and UFF never targeted catholics then !!!!!!!!!!!!

[shanewhite]

eh but thats the thing..they did?? it wasn't the PIRA's policy to target protestant civilians where as it was UFF etc etc to target catholics. loyalist para's used to even sit on buses just to see who blessed themselves when they passed a catholic church.

[TheMightOfTheEnglish]

they mention collusion, yet to get a bug into the army headquarters ,they to, must of had collusion, with a civilian worker or sympatheser

[Dilzybhoy]

Or even a brit. The thing is, The IRA did not collude with death squads. Yet the British Government, colluded with with loyalist death squads. They even had their own SAS taking part.

The IRA were a guerilla army.

So your missing the point about collusion.

[TheMightOfTheEnglish]

funny how its always death squads when referring to loyalists the ira were the biggest death squad of the lot,weres the proof of collusion between the government and loyalist terrorists, ive no doubt at all individual soldiers or policemen handed information over to loyalist squads ,were did the ira get there info from on udr and police reservists who were murdered in front of their families to

[samfitzell]

Try reading "Collusion" - The title is a bit of a giveaway. Or Martin Dillions "Dirty War" - this have plenty about collusion, plus all the evidence to back it up... The Army was hand in hand with RUC, they are hand in hand with the UDA - alot of who shared membership in both UDA and UFF etc

[rousseau5550]

Interesting documentary. What year was this filmed in?

[Dilzybhoy]

1989

[AKfromUSA]

@Dilzybhoy

Did you ever meet Brendan Hughes? He seems to have a wisdom about him.

[Dilzybhoy]

Only very briefly. Unfortunately

[GardaRyanIRA]

"Id like to have a word about 54 Halsley Road"

"If anything happens to me, or to Gerry, or to any other Irish prisoner, 54 Halsley Road will be blown to smitherines,  wit ye family in it"

- In the Name of the Father, what a line ;)

[GardaRyanIRA]

Them soldiers look scared fuckless dont they, "oh shit Im on foot patrol tomorrow, I wish my mammy was here" haha bunch of fags

[Tq0ThE0pAiN0019]

god bless the IRA-from the palestanian nation

[deetee118]

The building from 7.06 to 7.20 was my school fuckin shithole

[hanitorres]

Salute for the IRA from the Palistinian Nation

[spliffidge]

Irish and proud.

[bigirishtube]

brilliant persuading Daniel O Donnell to do the voice over. Think Ive caught the gay listening to him. 'Ta ar la imithe'

[Leinad514]

All this suffering could have be avoid if they didn't Partitioned Ireland.

If they let them togheter they will had learn to live together make compromise, find their own solution.

Nah the british want to keep their slice of the cake.

[truebot]

Why?

[Bigstarrocker9]

as a man of irish and cheerokee decent. ireland's fight for freedom is forever shown and the british they dont know who they mess with

[truefenian]

As the great-great grandson of Michael Larkin, the Manchester Martyr, I can appreciate Ireland's continued battle for freedom.

[AndrewKingDublin16]

tiocfaidh ar la

[TomBarry192I]

RUC Scum

Best we forget

[OnionHead1988]

That guy at the end there Brenadan Hughes, is that the guy is the coffin speaking before he died?

[dratsab1980]

No the guy in the coffin's a different Brendan, Hughes is still alive far as I know...

[AidanKTiD]

Hughes passed away last week sadly.

[RubberBullet91]

Nice one mate, i need this for a history project for my leaving cert!

[celticsean1888]

keep it up mo chara... i dont actually think ive seen this vid