In John 20;24-26 Thomas was not present at the crucifixion therefore he did not know about the broken legs. The more you dig into the story the more nonsense you find!!!! This validate my question, How did Thomas know it was Jesus if he knew him by his wound only?
I muted my own point Jesus was the only one who did not have his legs broken (John 19;32),howerver this beg another question,Why would Thomas not beleived Jesus assuming Jesus was walking???
Remember they were two other persons being crucified,Thomas did not recgnised Jesus by face but by his wounds only, How do we know it was Jesus and not one of the others two? This smell awfully fishy to my logical mind. Thank;s
Well done. While there are many stories throughout the bible that are meant to control and dissuade people from using reason, these were the two that were beaten into my head in Sunday school. If doubt were to creep up again, another bald assertion from the bible, like "Only the fool says there is no God" would shut my rational mind right up again.
Nice! I really liked this. It's making me suspect very strongly that these two stories occupy far more than their fair share of a typical believer's consciousness - relative both to how often they're heard and their apparent importance in the overall biblical context. Especially the Thomas story. Isolated statements to the effect that "there will be scoffers" strike me exactly the same way.
@LazySundayClub Thanks. You're right: "there will be scoffers" sets up the expectation in advance, so it can be overlooked when it comes. Of course, it's true no matter what opinion you hold, but it's more likely to be true the wackier your beliefs are. Best to nip that in the bud.
In John 20;24-26 Thomas was not present at the crucifixion therefore he did not know about the broken legs. The more you dig into the story the more nonsense you find!!!! This validate my question, How did Thomas know it was Jesus if he knew him by his wound only?
233yvan 5 months ago
And if Thomas did not know that the other men had there leg broken,then my question is valid!! thank;s
233yvan 5 months ago
I muted my own point Jesus was the only one who did not have his legs broken (John 19;32),howerver this beg another question,Why would Thomas not beleived Jesus assuming Jesus was walking???
233yvan 5 months ago
Remember they were two other persons being crucified,Thomas did not recgnised Jesus by face but by his wounds only, How do we know it was Jesus and not one of the others two? This smell awfully fishy to my logical mind. Thank;s
233yvan 5 months ago
@233yvan Wow, I never thought of that! Good point.
scotthorlbeck 5 months ago
Well done. While there are many stories throughout the bible that are meant to control and dissuade people from using reason, these were the two that were beaten into my head in Sunday school. If doubt were to creep up again, another bald assertion from the bible, like "Only the fool says there is no God" would shut my rational mind right up again.
AestusL4 6 months ago
@AestusL4 I'm definitely familiar with that verse. I'm still trying to come up with an appropriate comeback. :)
scotthorlbeck 6 months ago
Nice! I really liked this. It's making me suspect very strongly that these two stories occupy far more than their fair share of a typical believer's consciousness - relative both to how often they're heard and their apparent importance in the overall biblical context. Especially the Thomas story. Isolated statements to the effect that "there will be scoffers" strike me exactly the same way.
LazySundayClub 7 months ago
@LazySundayClub Thanks. You're right: "there will be scoffers" sets up the expectation in advance, so it can be overlooked when it comes. Of course, it's true no matter what opinion you hold, but it's more likely to be true the wackier your beliefs are. Best to nip that in the bud.
scotthorlbeck 7 months ago