Vegetable Oil for Diesel - Top Gear BBC Autos

[Sasori327]

3:21 fto in the background

[leeg131313]

Just buy real diesel instead of pissing around with this you cheapskate

[rvind92g]

From watching this video, he basically just combined used vegetable oil and non-kerosene based spirit and let the combination stand for a week. From the other videos I have watched, they used normal vegetable oil, lye and methanol with a different method of producing the biodiesel. So can anyone tell me if this method is safe or should I go for the other one?

[SongPegfz330]

najo is ja cool

[TheSkipjack95]

0:41 Those Pink pants......

[2012CamaroZL1IsEpic]

some guy gotta make a vegetable station

[nintendoatarikiller]

Those things tend to be awfully slow. Imagine The Stig trying to drive that. He'd go nuts

[human0un]

GHETTO-tastic!!!

[mattouli]

The older 'normally aspirated' Peugeot Diesels were great for this, i had a pal with an 306...

Not quite such a good idea on a turbo diesel tho!

[SSC3034]

@mattouli what will happen with a turbo-diesel?

[mattouli]

@SSC3034

I hear that straight oil tends to block the injectors and will eventually knacker the pump. I would think it'd be harder to start on a frosty morning too, cos it gets thicker with the cold (although i'm guessing with that one!)

A 50/50 mix would probably be ok though, a small risk the police would stop you if they smell 'chip-shop' from your exhaust - unfortunately the TaxMan has insisted it be made illegal...?

[mattouli]

@SSC3034

Having said that, a pal of mine virtually swaps the oil and diesel from time to time and it does his old peugeot estate a power of good. It passes emmisions easily on the mot... and it's done 240,000 miles so far...

[nedusin]

... Mexican restaurant?

[PunchingMegaTree]

My Boss's car smells like a McDonalds on wheels...

[0XAciDRaiNX0]

"used vegetable oil from a mexican restaurant..."

i c wat they did thar.

[rs200000000000]

diesel engines were invented to run on alternative fuels, it was the fuel companys and the goverments wouldnt have it because its too cheap and you can get away with paying no/less tax on it

[FowVayJetta]

Bye Bye, Texaco. Hello Crisco!

[atjnAdfhhjea]

@KLRider What about the Americans? They're doing rather poorly right now.

[xulinhoPVZ]

3:24  Fail!!

[malbert34]

@xulinhoPVZ What is?

[xulinhoPVZ]

@malbert34 Look at the head of the AA guy!!!

[Linked2Life]

Just one effect which is a bit annoying...

That's the best way to destroy your engine -.-

[havedessertfirst]

It stinks though ..

[Stanzskater]

The AA dude hits his head on the boot. haha

[kriss634]

Mexicans FTW

[jpjude68]

I'm sure 13 people who dislikes this are fans of huge ammount of taxes for filling up their 4X4's!

[maxhardt]

Hey, George Bush decided to open a vegetable oil station and sell it for 4 bucks a gallon in Texas!

[bergaflickal]

@maxhardt obama opened a gas station at 10 a gallon and is saying get used to it

[sharkey500]

Its all well and good proving it but I'm not putting vegetable oil in my 22 grand BMW

[93DOL]

Good old Jeremy Clarkson saving the not so rich people money

[gorganthon]

THE FIRST EPISODE!!!!!!!

[fortunateriver]

3:24 haha

[nutritiousacne99]

I'm in the market for one. Doing my due diligence at fasteconomicalcars (.) com

[dilligras]

In fact, the first engine Diesel built and took to the world's fair was DESIGNED to run on vegetable oil, because he intended for the farmer to be able to GROW all the fuel he needed for his machinery.

The petroleum companies named their fuel diesel in order to associate it with the engine and co-opt some of the market for city dwellers.

That marketing scheme worked so well that everyone now thinks veg. oil is a trick.

Fools and their money, blah, blah, blah...

[ChaseSpeer]

@dilligras the first engine he built was powered by coal dust dude

[MattySP34Ks]

in all seriousness I can smell chips in my dad's van.

[Gottgum]

@MattySP34Ks man, our family mercedes w124 250D is smelling like a burger restaurant too :D i"m living in germany, so the price for one liter of vegetable oil is about 75cents and diesel a stations costs about 1.10-1.25euro......that"s about 40cents per liter! :D

[coppincopp]

!n my city someone maked a car running by water!

[AlfieWilRus]

@coppincopp Water can not be used. What is the city you live in?

[coppincopp]

@AlfieWilRus well, i dont know if they used ONLY water, but i think i heard they used water. they were working for statoil(oilcompany in Norway)Stavanger......

[AlfieWilRus]

@coppincopp So far the only way water can be used is for a steam engine and its kinda hard putting on in a car.

[coppincopp]

@AlfieWilRus yeh, i know i am suprised as well when i heard that! XD

[AlfieWilRus]

@coppincopp What ever it was it is fake. Even if the person who made it some how put in a steam engine in a car he would have to use have something burning to boil the water so steam can be created.

[coppincopp]

@AlfieWilRus It doesent need to be fake.....maybe they\he maked another engine running by water!? anyway plz, dont send more messages after this.....

[100roberthenry]

@AlfieWilRus water = hydrogen=fuel. using pwm. pulse width modulation.

check it out...

[tiger0tank]

i remember my dad used run our diesel Citroen on this stuff, but then we moved and he got a V6 Lexus for his mid-life crisis

[miozzo1]

Mythbusters did this too if you dont believe the brits...and their Calfornians

[tomnotass1]

was it only clarkson on his own who presented top gear back then?

[fuckhacap]

3:25 LOL

[polisloco]

if you use olive oil it's like nitrus?

[chrisyo77]

fuck twitter and your fucking commercials

[Eagle1ZX]

Possibly one of the most beautiful looking family cars out there today in my view. Looks great, practical, drives through brick walls, that sums up as a brilliant car for me. Honestly, i cant get enough of those 740's.

[poulmba]

@Eagle1ZX

i owned a 760 gle.. a beauty and a beast in one ;)

[Eagle1ZX]

@poulmba

I agree. 740's and 760's are the favourites on my list. I do also have a soft spot for 240 estates. Great cars.

[RicardoSS85]

@Eagle1ZX 'Out there today'? Dude this car is 20 years old. And I know taste is a personal thing, but calling it beautiful has got to be a joke! As for the 'drives through brick walls', EuroNCAP would disagree...

[Eagle1ZX]

@RicardoSS85 My friend, you obviously have little knowledge about vehicles... I'm not even going to bother trying to score points here because you are one of these simple "if it's more than a year old it's crap" type of people. Which is fair enough, each to themselves at the end of the day... But when you see something that is rare, old, but interesting, be it a car or whatever, you'll know what I mean.. until then... wake up mate. please.. it was my opinion... not yours....

[RicardoSS85]

@Eagle1ZX I gave you 3 objective arguments and you attack me without giving any single logic counterargument. That makes you either an 11 year-old or an imbecile; I'm betting on the latter. Point 1: "out there today". This car was produced between 84-92. It's at least 20 years old. Point 2: beauty. Calling this "one of the most beautiful looking family cars" is like someone saying Lady Gaga is better than Sinatra; you know it's a personal opinion, but you'd still be calling that person an idiot.

[RicardoSS85]

@Eagle1ZX Point 3: safety. Any car designed 27 years ago is a lot less safe than ANY car on production today. You can see the Fifth Gear episode here on youtube where they crash a Volvo 940 (the replacement of the 700 series, hence a lot safer) into a Renault Modus.

I rest my case.

[AmericanIdleNH]

Can you mix this with regular diesel fuel, or do you have to drain and bleed the system before you can switch?

[AirCanada04]

@AmericanIdleNH You have to bleed it. You cant have a mix of Diesel and Vegetable Oil.

[poulmba]

@AirCanada04 errhh.. yes u can..

[AirCanada04]

@poulmba It causes damage in the long run.

[poulmba]

@AirCanada04 right ! thats why the danish army have been field testing mixing it on our tanks for 30 years+ ... no damage in the long run to the engine or the fuelsystem whatsoever

[teabag92887]

so its the next big business then

i shall open a vegetable oil station lol

[FlyinFreek]

what does he mena by "you have to tell them" and pay tax for what?

[OOZ662]

Britain taxes EVERYTHING.

[FlyinFreek]

but for what? the used vegetable?

[OOZ662]

"Fuel," I'm sure.

[FlyinFreek]

so your saying once you make the fuel you have to notify someone and tell them that you made it and pay them the tax for it?

[OOZ662]

I don't actually know. I'm from America and I haven't researched it. If you don't want to, I'll look it up in a couple hours when I have time.

[FlyinFreek]

same here, it just seems odd.

[nicoderm]

try that on a common rail td car... see what happens

[MadManDrivinHere]

in the US you can just go ask a fast food place to take their used oil off their hands for them, and tada! free fuel supply, although I've heard it doesn't always work with just the oil, need to start with diesel and then switch to the veggy oil.

[LN1990]

I suppose as the restaurants realise how lucrative a business this could be, they'd start charging for it as well.

[OriginalRanger84]

You have to refine the oil a bit more then they did over here too i think though...

I know a guy that took a 7.3L F350 with like an 800 gallon tank across Canada and back to Alaska. HAHAHA the thing smelled like Mc Donalds French fries every time he started it!

[kaosobsidian]

Its easy enough to do that in the UK now also :)

[fairyheli2]

in the UK you can, illegally

[Exodus646]

Lol 3:28 the guy hit his head :P

[tripoli2009]

cool, I'll open Vegetable Oil Station, lol

[kamczak89]

Hmm... Some drivers in Poland do so, but the idea is to not pay the taxes. Then it's really cheap, however if the Police catches you, you've got a big problem.

[xMandalorex]

why tho ? i can freely go into a shop buy a big can of oil put it in car for a very cheap price simple as tax is bullshit and should never be invovled in this oil fuel thing.

[Winterbyte]

well said

[ZOMGsound]

I saw it too and once it's air tank runs out it is powered by a gas engine that converts some power to an air compressor that refills the tank....

[diego750il]

i saw a prototype of a compressed air engine car, it is much better.

[jarjr88]

this is not a money saving tip. Cost the same as gas even more. Its better for the enviroment.

[tallzdatank]

the idea is if uve already got the stuff handy u could use it, its not the best way, but u could.

[Thejebe]

Not if you get that stuff for free.

[ragw33d]

nope just need a diesel engine

[kevinamuir]

lol car-nivor vs herbivore.

[ragw33d]

the 3 litre bottles in local morrisons sell like mad people add it with deisel to there cars

[psymon2005]

Do you still have to adjust your engine for that?

[RustyBinProductions]

The sad thing about this is that environmentally, it makes good sense.... but since everyone knows this trick now, the government has increased (and will keep increasing) the tax/duty rate on all cooking oils. Tax should ALWAYS be a % of a cost or a profit, that's how tax is calculated. 26p tax on a 3p product is extortion... and it's time someone taught our useless government a lesson!

England needs a coup! Any volenteers?

[Xelmon]

Well, here in yaknee land it was *very* good for a year back in 2004 I believe. Then 05 it made clubs. And in 06, it became a major fuel... You can barely find the shit for the good ol cheap price of nearly free any more.

[Blackwood550]

yeah, our situation sucks...

[TheFlensted]

@RustyBinProductions Our good friend Mr. Fawkes might help ;)

[TheArmo1]

@RustyBinProductions We were scared the Lords would abuse their powers and be corrupt but its ONLY the commons and its scantly honest members that are always involved in scandals and affairs. I say we need a new breed of politicians along with a bit more power back into the Lords. They after all being hereditary wouldnt care about getting votes and could check and balance the commons better.

[casawsome]

@RustyBinProductions yeh 870% 

[ChaseSpeer]

@RustyBinProductions remember remember the 5th of november, the oil, the taxes, and plot. I see no reason why the oil tax treason should ever be forgot

[Gwynne66]

@RustyBinProductions

Didn't the British government pass a law a few years back exempting individuals from tax on the first 2500 liters of bio-diesel they brew in a year?

[pcbb01]

@RustyBinProductions lol, england has one of the best governments in the world, compare that to my shit country and its shit government

[ascolti]

@RustyBinProductions Just to update you. The Government allows you to make up to 2500 litres without paying ANY tax. This came in about 6-9 months after this program was made. 2500 is about what the average family diesel will use in a year, about 550 gallons.

[RealityIsUndeniable]

@RustyBinProductions  <---- no one has heard from him since this comment.

[royalwww]

dont use it in recent/new tdi engines.

[punkerdave01]

Gotta Love that Bio-Diesel fuel.

[agentjwa]

thats not bio diesel, BD is something totally different

[Xelmon]

Aye, BD actually goes though a chemical procedure. In you have to let it cure for a week, and in the end you'll take off the glicerin from the top.

[mst3kld]

yeah bio diesel is made from compost dumps and such. rioting veggies anything that was alive. even dead cats if you wanted.

[cheloo]

lol they should come to Romania, we use vegetable oil for long time ago :)) 1 part diesel, 1/2 part vegetable oil and it runs great and it has less co2 emisions.

but it's no more efficent because they rise the price of vegetable oil.

1 liter of diesel = 0.80 euro

1 liter of vegetable oil = 1.35 euro

[gagecube]

Im told volkswagen SDi engines (as found in old generation skodas and vws) work fine with this.

[AnthonyUK]

Like the older Skoda Felicia and Polo's/Caddy's with SDI engines and older VW diesels?

[gagecube]

Yes, I guess they are the same engine. So from what ive read online the SDi engines are fine on Veg oil as they are just basic non turbo diesel engines. It wouldnt hurt to get a cheap used felicia and try it, even if something went wrong a felicia would of been so cheap to buy anyway.

[AnthonyUK]

You have to be careful because some car/van/truck manufacturers don't recommend the use of biodiesel at all and if you go against their recommendations and use it and it causes problems, they can and will refuse to honour warranty/servicing claims for damage/problems caused by it. Older diesel cars/vans and trucks will probably weather it and run on it without problems,but the newer more modern diesels particularly those with common rail would probably foul up/breakdown through clogging.

[jimmyzing]

this vegetable oil is no good for new age diesels, it screws up the injector pump and injector pumps cost upwards of $4k Australian to replace, To me that cost out weighs the cheaper bio-diesel (vegetable oil).

[evozxx]

So Right

[Gwiz93]

LOL !

[donarrasso]

It's very popular in Poland among taxi drivers, but they are using fresh oil from discounts. It's not too good for the fuel pump, so it's goog to replace it with a bigger one, but engin runs normal even if you use it all the time. Perfect car for running on vegetable oil is Mercedes w123 300d it have fuel pump lubricated with engine oil so it can run on that kind of fuel without any modifications.

[BOXFRESH99]

thats amazing i dident know you could do that and i have a diesel

[mrmagic112233]

I wonder if the vegetable oil damages the engine?

[dardo1201]

I heard if you run it completly on pure vegetable oil it will run on old engines but will result in damage to more modern ones

[basilora]

it damages newer engines because it eats away the material for the newer tube materials used you'll have to use hard piping or steel pipe or something in place of the normal silicone piping to get it to run without damaging stuff.

[nuetschau0production]

thats true, because the turbo charger could get damaged, because vegetable oil burns later than diesel.

[helena324xx]

the AA man hit his head off the boot at 3.26!

[chicopompeo]

True! also funny..

[Eagle1ZX]

@helena324xx

Lol he does as well. Good looking there.

[hijuja]

DAMN

[ajsnownz]

ur exhaust end's up smelling like chip's n burger's, all u need is a centrifuge home made they work well, n run if 50/50, i know someone that did that.

[mecrazy5]

cookery for the motorist! lol!

[bigphat200]

Why are we not funding this, hahahaha

[mecrazy5]

it wud end the suger crunch

[ursweety888]

PINK PANTS!!!!!

[pakzilla]

so does that mean i can fry fries in diesel???? lmfao

[mecrazy5]

lol!

[Alih7]

TOP GEAR IS THE BEST!

[uglok0]

Bear in mind people, IF YOU'RE CAUGHT DOING THIS YOU CAN BE FINED AND FORCED TO PAY THE EQUIVALENT FUEL TAX THAT YOU WOULD HAVE HAD TO PAY FOR PETROL. And it has a distinctive smell.

Still, that said - hell of a lot cheaper!! :p

[KvizY]

ermm i dont think you would get fined...

[mecrazy5]

but the money you save on it will more than make up for the fine

[uglok0]

sure, quite likely. Depends how long you can get away with it for ;)

i'm not saying don't do it - hell I would if i had a diesel, but just saying it's not completely legit for those out there who did't know!!

[ducati135]

Intersting how old ideas get a new life. My dad had a tractor from the 1920s or 30s that ran on practically anything from used oil to gas.

[insanomonkey]

Oh yeah, and add a shitload of emissions that are just the same or even more than diesel itself. Gasoline runs much cleaner than diesel (even though it's still pretty pollutant). Just go out and buy an electric car and you can plug them into an fucking wall socket at your next motel or gas station and obviously at your house. Only bad thing is, it takes like 3 hours to charge (for 100 mile range), which isn't bad for everyday office driving that most of us use cars for anyways.

[WillP999]

Where do you think electricity comes from?

Trees?

[kizzer132000]

yup, thousands of year old decomposed trees under lots of pressure, its called coal, then you burn that to turn turbines to create electricity, so your dead right, electricity does come from trees :)

[WillP999]

Hmm, i don't think you got the point.

[kizzer132000]

was a joke mate, all good, and i got your point perfectly, the best (most environmentaly friendly) car to run at the moment is one that creats its own electricity... emissions are water, i cant remember the name of the type of engine tho, total mind blank... pure electric cars are overrated and hybrids are only half decent.

[aaron9099]

is that that errr...honda or something that runs on hydrogen??

i think james may reviewed it sometime??

just a guess

[heckfarr]

You're right in line with my way of thinking mate.

Vegetarians wont eat meat.

What are cows made of? Grass!

Cattle consist on vegetation.

If you eat beef, you're a vegetarian!

[briankimbrell]

electricity is also made through hydro-electric dams and also wind powered turbines.

[kizzer132000]

very true, and if the Australian govt. was spending more money on pushing those alternate sources of electricity generation i would switch to electric straight away, but the vast majority of electricity in Aus still comes from burning coal. Its a shame because alternate "green" sources are always going to be better overall in the long run, even if they are more expensive in the short term.

[mikwhatitis]

your wrong diesel isnt like they use to

they burn the fuel more consistantly and the more you tune them the better milage you get

that black smog you see that comes out isnt as polluting as car exaust its just color of it not the pollutants

[88eggwhites]

El rios in macclesfield lol... i've been there.. good old macc

[88ESCORTGT]

Lots Of cars in Canada Run On Bio Diesel , and no tax to pay. up to now.

[unionjackthelad]

apart from tax,

and with them fuck em over if you can

[grey2fox]

But can you use Diesel as Vegetable oil?

[pitabread79]

lol!

[DRATMMM]

Bet it adds a hell of a kick to stir fry.

[Aaronkills10]

lol

[Sethburgess12]

lol

[jameskmb]

sounded abit off and lots of smoke..

[mattcolt]

yeah its called a diesel engine.

[LAtexStretch]

Its an OLD ARSE VOLVO, what the hell do you want? Quietness?? Hah!! As if!!

[projundertax]

lmao

[n11lc]

what

[wazzupriders]

illegal in the u.s.

[waswat]

Any idea why?

[jameskmb]

why? so they dont lose all the tax from diesel i bet.

[MauField]

Since when? I am currently using this on my truck and the guys at the emissions place even laughed when and asked me if I was cooking fry's haha. so the emissions guys say its OK to do and that would mean not illegal

[producering8]

el problema con los combustibles alternativos a los derivados de petroleo es la no difusion porparte de los organismos estatales en su uso y el desinteres por el medio ambiente de paises centrales