I was told victorinox bought swiss army or took over swiss army but I'm not here to defend what the sales lady at Macy's told me.
I saw this watch in the video and when I had Victorinox on the phone w/ my watch I told her I had my eye on this very watch and that one web site has it for x-amount of dollars and the other site has it for $200 dollars less and when I gave her the watch style numbers she said we don't honor the cheaper one,it's not ours.
@MrScrappydue Swiss Army has a huge problem with grey market dealers who sell their watches at way below retail. These merchants buy the pieces from a business that is going under, then resell them so they have no contract with Swiss Army. Thus they're not authorized dealers and you won't have warranty problems covered if you buy from them.
But, you know, I sell Victorinoxes (along with tons of other brands) and have people handing them down to their children so what do I know?
@Nateb123 Back in the 60s when my dad would take me out fishing in a small boat (I was 5-9yrs old) I was so intrested in his watch and he would let me hold it so I could tell him the time and we stayed out after dark for cat fishing.
Everytime I would go to macys(2002yr) I would see the Swiss Army watches,the lady would try to get me to buy one and I eventualy did.
I signed up for there credit card and got such a good deal I bought my dad one too.
@MrScrappydue: Neteb, My dad had me bring his back and two months after mine stoped working and they told me to send it in and it cost me $50 bucks (long story) and I was very unhappy since I could have changed the battery for $5bucks. Me and dad also noticed the watch hands did not light up the way they use to and Victor or Swiss Army said they had to stop useing trinium because it's illegal. I think it's because there getting cheaper & cost efective. You can still get a Radio Active Glow On.
@MrScrappydue No Tritium is illegal because it's highly radioactive. Similar to the Radium they used to use to make hands glow, people found that irradiating your wrist was a stupid side effect for night visibility. Also one anecdote of your poor decision to not simply take your watch to a watchmaker to get the battery changed makes little difference. Did it ever occur to you the watch sat in stock at Macy's for so long the battery almost died? How is it Swiss Army's fault?
@Nateb123 How old are you? Did you not read where I said it's a long story? I called the club that makes your watch, and they assured me it was not the battery. The only poor dicision I made was to explain myself to a twit I tried to be civil, and you go and insult me. Your right there's an anecdote to every dumb decision.
@MrScrappydue $50 bucks could simply be watchmaker's charge for changing a battery plus shipping. I've seen more charged for the service. Otherwise, it broke because you broke it and the company wouldn't cover it under warranty. Those are the only two options that would result in you paying money to fix it so early on. You keep getting all snitty about your bad experiences yet you have no knowledge to inform your expectations. Is it my obligation to dance around your ignorance?
@breitlingsource That's what I thought! But then I researched and found that they are indeed making counterfeits of these, they even counterfeit cheap Skagens! Anything for a buck I guess. I didn't want to take my chances buying a "new" watch with no guarantee, so today I bought one for full price from an authorized dealer. To me the $300 more is worth knowing I'm getting the real deal. Thanks for the video, it helped me make a decision (Victorinox ought to kick you a check, haha)
@breitlingsource Listen to this guy when he says there cheap,they are. The company is no longer the Swiss Army your dad knew and trusted,this company is the fake Swiss Army. S.Army is no longer in buisness and is now victorinox. These cheapos dont even glow in the dark anymore. The company claimes the material used is toxic.What they wont tell you is, it was cost efective to stop useing it,this is the only truth.If you still own a S.A. watch that needs repair go to a local shop.
@MrScrappydue Clearly you're pushing some crazy agenda dude because even a Swiss Army Original has lume that kicks ass. Getting a Divemaster will leave your friends wondering if you're radioactive it glows so much so sorry, but I call bullshit on you.
@Nateb123 I never said your Mickey was not a glow in the dark, and so far my shit is not glowing.
I also said Victorinox stoped useing Trinuim on there watch hands.
I'm not sure what you mean by "crazy agenda" but if that means every now and then when I run across a video or hear a person is going to waist there money on a Vic or a S.Army, and then try to convince them there are better choices out there,then yes, I guess you could call it crazy.
@SakoTGrimes The Bay sells Swiss Military, made by Wenger. Not Swiss Army. Swiss Military isn't actually swiss made, they're Chinese, sometimes Japanese movements. Thus the cheap prices
@saubz That is correct - This watch has a 2834-2, not the 2836. Difference is in the orientation of the Day. I should add a correction somewhere on it.
@breitlingsource I've noticed that some of the Victorinox watches have the the name"Victorinox" on the dial while some don't. My Victorinox Dive Master 241173 only has "Swiss Army" on the dial. Is there a difference?
@OrdinaryJoeHello Swiss Army bought Wenger a couple years ago which made cheap knockoff "Swiss Military" watches. To distinguish the good brand from the crappy brand, Swiss Army has been moving towards a Victorinox name for its watches which has tons of brand recognition in Europe (not so much in North America) and Swiss Military has become cheaper Wenger watches.
Had this watch for almost a year now, and love it! It's a perfect daily driver and couldn't really be happier with quality/performance.
(I have the black face with leather band. I'm kind of wishing I got the white face now after the video)
It's perfect for anyone that wants luxury quality at an affordable price. Especially for a younger guy like me that loves watches but can't really afford the top brands.
I really wanted to buy this watch a few years ago, but I dislike the large non screw down crown. Makes the watch look tacky. It looks even worse when I wear it. Swiss Army makes affordable watches, but style wise, it ain't a Breitling or Rolex.
Thanks for the review. You mention secondary markets... any websites you have validated to be legit? There are a lot of watches coming out of China that claim to be "Swiss Made". I heard there is a gray market there, where the products may actually be real? Anyway, let me know if you would recommend somewhere to purchase.
I was told victorinox bought swiss army or took over swiss army but I'm not here to defend what the sales lady at Macy's told me.
I saw this watch in the video and when I had Victorinox on the phone w/ my watch I told her I had my eye on this very watch and that one web site has it for x-amount of dollars and the other site has it for $200 dollars less and when I gave her the watch style numbers she said we don't honor the cheaper one,it's not ours.
MrScrappydue 11 months ago
@MrScrappydue Swiss Army has a huge problem with grey market dealers who sell their watches at way below retail. These merchants buy the pieces from a business that is going under, then resell them so they have no contract with Swiss Army. Thus they're not authorized dealers and you won't have warranty problems covered if you buy from them.
But, you know, I sell Victorinoxes (along with tons of other brands) and have people handing them down to their children so what do I know?
Nateb123 11 months ago
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MrScrappydue 11 months ago
@Nateb123 Back in the 60s when my dad would take me out fishing in a small boat (I was 5-9yrs old) I was so intrested in his watch and he would let me hold it so I could tell him the time and we stayed out after dark for cat fishing.
Everytime I would go to macys(2002yr) I would see the Swiss Army watches,the lady would try to get me to buy one and I eventualy did.
I signed up for there credit card and got such a good deal I bought my dad one too.
I'll get back to you on the rest of story
MrScrappydue 11 months ago
@MrScrappydue: Neteb, My dad had me bring his back and two months after mine stoped working and they told me to send it in and it cost me $50 bucks (long story) and I was very unhappy since I could have changed the battery for $5bucks. Me and dad also noticed the watch hands did not light up the way they use to and Victor or Swiss Army said they had to stop useing trinium because it's illegal. I think it's because there getting cheaper & cost efective. You can still get a Radio Active Glow On.
MrScrappydue 11 months ago
@MrScrappydue No Tritium is illegal because it's highly radioactive. Similar to the Radium they used to use to make hands glow, people found that irradiating your wrist was a stupid side effect for night visibility. Also one anecdote of your poor decision to not simply take your watch to a watchmaker to get the battery changed makes little difference. Did it ever occur to you the watch sat in stock at Macy's for so long the battery almost died? How is it Swiss Army's fault?
Nateb123 11 months ago
@Nateb123 How old are you? Did you not read where I said it's a long story? I called the club that makes your watch, and they assured me it was not the battery. The only poor dicision I made was to explain myself to a twit I tried to be civil, and you go and insult me. Your right there's an anecdote to every dumb decision.
MrScrappydue 11 months ago
@MrScrappydue $50 bucks could simply be watchmaker's charge for changing a battery plus shipping. I've seen more charged for the service. Otherwise, it broke because you broke it and the company wouldn't cover it under warranty. Those are the only two options that would result in you paying money to fix it so early on. You keep getting all snitty about your bad experiences yet you have no knowledge to inform your expectations. Is it my obligation to dance around your ignorance?
Nateb123 11 months ago
I see a lot of these (automatic, day and date) ranging from $300 to $800 on the bay, in colors not shown on the website. Are these fake you think?
SakoTGrimes 1 year ago
@SakoTGrimes I don't know, but these watches are far too cheap for any of the factories to bother making good fakes of.
breitlingsource 1 year ago
@breitlingsource That's what I thought! But then I researched and found that they are indeed making counterfeits of these, they even counterfeit cheap Skagens! Anything for a buck I guess. I didn't want to take my chances buying a "new" watch with no guarantee, so today I bought one for full price from an authorized dealer. To me the $300 more is worth knowing I'm getting the real deal. Thanks for the video, it helped me make a decision (Victorinox ought to kick you a check, haha)
SakoTGrimes 1 year ago
@SakoTGrimes I know there are counterfeits of them - I've seen them. I was talking about GOOD fakes. Their fakes are generally of very poor quality.
breitlingsource 1 year ago
@breitlingsource Listen to this guy when he says there cheap,they are. The company is no longer the Swiss Army your dad knew and trusted,this company is the fake Swiss Army. S.Army is no longer in buisness and is now victorinox. These cheapos dont even glow in the dark anymore. The company claimes the material used is toxic.What they wont tell you is, it was cost efective to stop useing it,this is the only truth.If you still own a S.A. watch that needs repair go to a local shop.
MrScrappydue 1 year ago
@MrScrappydue Clearly you're pushing some crazy agenda dude because even a Swiss Army Original has lume that kicks ass. Getting a Divemaster will leave your friends wondering if you're radioactive it glows so much so sorry, but I call bullshit on you.
Nateb123 11 months ago
@Nateb123 I never said your Mickey was not a glow in the dark, and so far my shit is not glowing.
I also said Victorinox stoped useing Trinuim on there watch hands.
I'm not sure what you mean by "crazy agenda" but if that means every now and then when I run across a video or hear a person is going to waist there money on a Vic or a S.Army, and then try to convince them there are better choices out there,then yes, I guess you could call it crazy.
MrScrappydue 11 months ago
@SakoTGrimes The Bay sells Swiss Military, made by Wenger. Not Swiss Army. Swiss Military isn't actually swiss made, they're Chinese, sometimes Japanese movements. Thus the cheap prices
Nateb123 11 months ago
I own this watch - love it so far. After 2 weeks it's only ~1 minute off atomic time.
Clarification though: I believe this is an ETA 2834-2 movement, not the 2836.
saubz 1 year ago
@saubz That is correct - This watch has a 2834-2, not the 2836. Difference is in the orientation of the Day. I should add a correction somewhere on it.
breitlingsource 1 year ago
@breitlingsource I've noticed that some of the Victorinox watches have the the name"Victorinox" on the dial while some don't. My Victorinox Dive Master 241173 only has "Swiss Army" on the dial. Is there a difference?
OrdinaryJoeHello 1 year ago
@OrdinaryJoeHello Swiss Army bought Wenger a couple years ago which made cheap knockoff "Swiss Military" watches. To distinguish the good brand from the crappy brand, Swiss Army has been moving towards a Victorinox name for its watches which has tons of brand recognition in Europe (not so much in North America) and Swiss Military has become cheaper Wenger watches.
Nateb123 11 months ago
Had this watch for almost a year now, and love it! It's a perfect daily driver and couldn't really be happier with quality/performance.
(I have the black face with leather band. I'm kind of wishing I got the white face now after the video)
It's perfect for anyone that wants luxury quality at an affordable price. Especially for a younger guy like me that loves watches but can't really afford the top brands.
Looking for a nice quartz chrono next...
gabrideen 1 year ago
This makes my 14$ (probably) counterfeit casio feel inferior,
nascardude152 1 year ago
I really wanted to buy this watch a few years ago, but I dislike the large non screw down crown. Makes the watch look tacky. It looks even worse when I wear it. Swiss Army makes affordable watches, but style wise, it ain't a Breitling or Rolex.
Thokko 2 years ago
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obeasthead 1 year ago
Thanks for the review. You mention secondary markets... any websites you have validated to be legit? There are a lot of watches coming out of China that claim to be "Swiss Made". I heard there is a gray market there, where the products may actually be real? Anyway, let me know if you would recommend somewhere to purchase.
Thanks
bjdunne8378 2 years ago
ebay
maybach571993 1 year ago
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obeasthead 2 years ago
@obeasthead 1) No its flat, 2) 2836 has the Day.
breitlingsource 2 years ago
cool, its so hard to find a day-date watch for a every day use.
mrbeligos 2 years ago
not a fan of the bracelet, but I love the watch, and the size is perfect. V/SA really has a great cost:value ratio. Great review
Trig242 2 years ago
i'd like it more with a GMT function .. still a decent watch :) Great review as always mate :D 5/5
azaas 2 years ago
Great watch, I love it.
wtfisditvoorbullshit 2 years ago