I think some of those have been over the line before the red/amber. If anything it perhaps denotes that the junction needs redesign for a filter light option.
In Aberdeen amber & red often feels like "Oh go on then, a few more". In your video for the most part it's the drivers who stop others from turning right safely by continuing to sail through once the lights have turned amber or even red, that are in the wrong. The newly remodelled crossing at Rosemount Place/Argyll Place now makes it harder for traffic to justify such actions there at least, as the stop lines have been pushed well back from the actual crossing.
"AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident."
So most of what you have posted is irrelevant as the majority had passed the stop line and were waiting to turn right.
@mrcellophane99 You're right. IMHO the issue for traffic engineers here is that the majority waiting to turn right who, as you rightly say have passed the stop line (though many traveling straight on have not) by the time the red shows are compelled to conflict with the ped phase. It's easy to criticise the motorists, and it's a lot of fun (I wonder how many of their journeys were < 2 ml) but you're right: if there were a filter phase for those turning right, I'd have little to complain about.
I think some of those have been over the line before the red/amber. If anything it perhaps denotes that the junction needs redesign for a filter light option.
A good load of those were blatant enough though.
downfader2 5 months ago
In Aberdeen amber & red often feels like "Oh go on then, a few more". In your video for the most part it's the drivers who stop others from turning right safely by continuing to sail through once the lights have turned amber or even red, that are in the wrong. The newly remodelled crossing at Rosemount Place/Argyll Place now makes it harder for traffic to justify such actions there at least, as the stop lines have been pushed well back from the actual crossing.
benwatt 5 months ago
"AMBER means ‘Stop’ at the stop line. You may go on only if the AMBER appears after you have crossed the stop line or are so close to it that to pull up might cause an accident."
So most of what you have posted is irrelevant as the majority had passed the stop line and were waiting to turn right.
mrcellophane99 5 months ago 3
@mrcellophane99 You're right. IMHO the issue for traffic engineers here is that the majority waiting to turn right who, as you rightly say have passed the stop line (though many traveling straight on have not) by the time the red shows are compelled to conflict with the ped phase. It's easy to criticise the motorists, and it's a lot of fun (I wonder how many of their journeys were < 2 ml) but you're right: if there were a filter phase for those turning right, I'd have little to complain about.
JannieJumbo 5 months ago