NARTH Protest West Palm Beach 2009 #4 (Doctor Letters)

[funk7000]

The promotion of homosexuality and homosexual activism are rooted in Marxism, and is used as the "inner foe" of Christianity in order to discourage natural families from occurring, and thus breaking down society in order to set up a police/fascist state. They hide behind flowery words such as "equality," "tolerance," "diversity," but the end result will be neither of these.

[keiferd11]

GAY AGENDA: 1. Spend time with family. 2 Be treated equally. 3. Buy milk

[molimhvalaizvoli]

I study psychology and the gay agenda in college is absolutly ridicilous, go NARTH go real psychology, down with agressive propaganda!

[keiferd11]

@molimhvalaizvoli LMAO.....the gay agenda...in college....yeah tell some more lies....how about some of your "pick and choose religion....yeah...you going to hell....you lie out your ass!! LMAO...gay agenda...give me a break....go get an education....stop spreading propaganda!!

[molimhvalaizvoli]

@keiferd11 - I´m not telling lies, the way people are being brainwashed in social studies thinking that homosexuality is ok is unbelievable. When we talk about this issues in classes, you hear only one side of the argument, whenever somebody tires to give a constructive critic about homosexuality he´s automatically silenced and accused of being a homophobe . Why can´t we talk about this issue freely tolerating each others opinion in academic circles is one thing I don´t understand.peace

[keiferd11]

@molimhvalaizvoli it's pretty clear to me...after reading your posts, you have NO use for what the average gay is about...you just want to project your sterotypical image. and false propoganda. NARTH is ran by a bunch of LATENT HOMOSEXUALS. IT's good to hear ya'll are slienced in class...your ignorance should be educated...but since you have no use for truth...then you should be silenced...besides we here, and were not going away. peace

[molimhvalaizvoli]

@keiferd11 -thanks for prooving my point, silencing people by fascic methods isn´t something you should be prod of btw.

Its interesting to see how you labeled me for having a stereotypical image of homosexual people when you have been the one that stereotyped me

[keiferd11]

@molimhvalaizvoli your post defined that for me...stay in school....listen to people who know more about subjects than you

[keiferd11]

@molimhvalaizvoli GO NARTH....go George Reker....rentboy.com.....LMAO

[dmsni]

So why not of offer hope to people with unwanted same-sex attraction, as Narth is doing. If these folks in the video want their same-sex attractions what are they protesting against? That there is help for others who don't? It has already been demonstrated that homosexuality is not irreversible. There are people who were once same-sex attracted. Narth is not trying to convert anyone who wants to remain homosexual.

[dmsni]

It would be interesting to know how much some of those who criticise Narth actually know about the organisation. I feel sorry for those made to hold up cards and protest here - they look indoctrinated and manipulated. For instance look at how they turn round at his instruction. It is rather sad. Basically it seems to me that they have been told Narth is bad, without being allowed to decide for themselves if that is true.

[DUDEEE28]

wow.. what idiots!

[cjm608]

i remember a time when we used our anger to get things done.. i.e act up, gay rights movement. we must fight narth to the very end or we will let them harm so many of our brothers and sisters. do not let this happen. SPEAK OUT AND STAND UP>

[MultiFailBot]

Um... the ex-gay movement does not work.

Look up ANY ex-gay study and you'll find...

... that the ASTOUNDING MAJORITY of ACTUAL gay / lesbian people that go there... do not gain sexual feelings towards the opposite sex. They either live as a chaste person, throw off the ex-gay message, or marry a person that they are not sexually attracted to.

For bisexuals it's obviously different.

[Raffzeee]

I am a recovering homosexual. I will not accept the lies I have been told. I want to be attracted to women. Nothing in the world, not even a threat against my life will change that. The amazing thing is that most normal people know the truth. They quietly respect me for what I am doing. You people are the phobic, hateful ones. Grow up. If you want to be gay I don't care. I don't support homophobia. I just want to live how I want to live.

[SurreallTV]

@Raffzeee I commend you my friend. I am Completely and UTTERLY against Homosexuality, BUT i am not against the Individuals...who are stricken with it (and more specifically, i mean..only the GOOD, and kind-hearted people, and people who know its wrong, or at least know its something wrong WITH it....anyway, im getting off topic)..

what i want to ask you is, do you know how you became gay?...do you know how your particular case of homosexuality Developed? (I say that because....

[SurreallTV]

@Raffzeee (Pt 2)

i say that because, there is actually NUMEROUS different causes and origins of Homosexuality, depending on the person and on their particular circumstances and experiences. So contrary to popular beleif, there is not ONE universal Cause. Also,1 thing that triggers homosexuality in 1 person, may not trigger it in the Next.

Anyway...i also ask, if you know.....because some cases, just the act of being enlightened, and KNOWING what caused it, can in some ways.."Cure" you.

[fgbowen]

Oh yes! fanagot - THAT'S intelligent -

a scientific organization that knows more

about fear than YOU do - yes, THEY

are the phobics.

[fanagot]

NARTH members and helpers are all homophobes.

[fgbowen]

EVERYbody has wrong doing in their past.

EVERYbody.

This guy's resorting to stone throwing is

WEAK.

I ask -

Is he in Junior High?

[fgbowen]

Yes - I agree with almost all of the comments below.

This guy in the vid -

Is he in High School?

Does he come from North Korea where people do not have freedom?

[theruteger]

He almost seems to want to force gays to stay gay

[tilkyguy]

Not sure what this dude's problem is. Live your life the want, and let others do the same.

[JoeyBoya]

We as people must accept our differences! Waisting our lives to try and change others is wrong... SPREAD LOVE

[rapperSweetT]

Go NARTH!! We need more research not intimidation. Instead of attacking the person why not scrutinize their research. Their studies are solid and well done.

[theruteger]

The claim about religions is false, most major religions condemn homosexuality, Judaism, Christianity, Buddhism (Dali Lama said so) and Islam

[theruteger]

wow how poorly organized

[DanTheWebmaster]

...and NARTH is one of the groups trying to get people to regard their own orientation as "disgusting and sad" instead of a natural part of themselves.

[dmsni]

@zharlow5301 I don't see how they are shamed by Narth as the organisation only exists to help those who already have unwanted same-sex attractions.

[Portubed]

NARTH is professional in providing a service that clients with unwanted homosexual tendencies ask for.

Despite the strongly rooted tendency, especially in males with a considerable history of dating in the gay lifestyle, they have proven effective in bringing freedom and joy through therapy to these people.

Indeed, LOVE TO ALL, including those who seek to work against their unwanted (some do call it "disgusting and sad") homosexual tendencies.

"Natural instincts" isn't accurate either.

[JoeyBoya]

NARTH is disgusting and sad! What a waist of human lives to try any and change someone from their natural instincts.... LOVE TO ALL ;)

[theruteger]

natural instincts? I know people that CHOSE to be gay. Even psychology studies across the board show homosexuality is not genetics, like twin studies, and certain plastics have been shown to be linked to effeminate children. the APA does say homosexuality is nonreversible, does that make it fine and natural? No, the APA also says pedophilia is nonreversible, does that mean it must be fine? There are many disorders that people maybe born with or prone to, that does not mean they ought2 keep it

[nerktord]

Making a comparison between homosexuality and pedophilia is just a very weak argument indeed. Try harder, please.

[theruteger]

how about reading what joey said and how i answered it rather than arrogantly calling it weak. IF someone is a prone to some bad behavior or undesireable behavior does not mean they should just embrace it? NARTH tries to treat people who do not WANT to be gay--they are HELPING people

[nerktord]

I did read what both of you said, and by calling it weak isn't being arrogant at all, because as an argument position it IS weak. Also 'bad behavior' is completely subjective, now you may have people who deny their natural sexual desires and seek 'help' which is fine, but that doesn't mean your comparison between homosexuality and pedophilia is any stronger, because it's just weak. Surely you can understand that?

[theruteger]

Both are sexual deviancies, neither benefit humanity, both are argued to be "natural". Both are argued to be "not curable". You problem is with the people who BY THEIR OWN FREE WILL go to NARTH because NARTH provides a service to try to treat their UNWANTED homosexual tendencies. Why do people whine about NARTH when people WANT NARTH's help, its ironic people complain about NARTH being a bully or something when all they are doing is trying to help people that seek their help

[zharlow5301]

@theruteger Two things. One, homosexuality is in no way compairable to pedophila. homosexual men and women are two consenting adults who find each other though love and attraction exactly like hetrosexuals. Pedophila is a adult mistreating and abusing a innocent child for their own sexual gain. no comparison.

[SurreallTV]

@zharlow5301 "One, homosexuality is in no way compairable to pedophila. homosexual men and women are two consenting adults who find each other though love and attraction exactly like hetrosexuals. Pedophila is a adult mistreating and abusing a innocent child for their own sexual gain. no comparison."

And yet another display of Utter Lack of Logical and Rational thinking (a TYPICAL mental trait of homosexuals, no offense). So..."2 concenting adults". Ok..so if thats okay, then..(See pt 2>>

[SurreallTV]

@zharlow5301 (Pt 2)

So...2 concenting adults.(2 homosexuals) Okay..so if THAT is viewed as Okay and Natural and Non-harmful. Then,2 Concenting adult FAMILY Members, would ALSO be okay. Right?. (And this DOES include Immediate family, Brother/ brother.....sister/sister.....­brother/sister....FATHER/ Daughter....MOTHER/SON, etc). Surely, under That logic, Incest is Okay and Moral, and Natural, and Healthy..too. Right?. And if not, please explain why not. (and ALL homos are welcom to answer

[zharlow5301]

@theruteger Secondly, the people only consent because they are shamed into going by people like you and NARTH who make them feel bad about who they are. Infact, the American Pychology Association deemed it as not a mental illness as well deemed conversion therapy to be harmful

[theruteger]

@zharlow5301

THE APA DOES NOT DISCOURAGE PEOPLE FROM TRYING TO CONVERT. OO YESS GOD FORBID SOMEONE DOES NOT WISH TO BE HOMOSEXUALS. WHY DO GAY PEOPLE HATE GAYS THAT DO NOT WANT TO BE GAY? THEY HAVE TO MAKE THEM OUT TO BE A WEIRDO OR SOMETHING--HOW OBNOXIOUS

[zharlow5301]

@theruteger That is right, because the Pychology community found nothing wrong with homosexuality, countering Frued. They also after doing studies and documentation, Found it HARMFUl to try and convert a homosexual,due to phychological distress it causes as well links with depression and so on.They are also not the only ones to make these claims.

[SurreallTV]

@zharlow5301 "That is right, because the Pychology community found nothing wrong with homosexuality, countering Frued. They also after doing studies and documentation, Found it HARMFUl to try and convert a homosexual,due to phychological distress it causes as well links with depression and so on.They are also not the only ones to make these claims."

^^^^ See that?..THAT is an OUTRIGHT LIE, ALL of it...and its Extremely sad how BLATANT lies like this, are so commonly spread by Homosexuals.

[zharlow5301]

@theruteger \ By the way you posted it made it seem as you assume all attendies are doing it on a free will bases. I can gurentee you though that it is family members ( mainly parents) and religious figures doing by creating so much guilt and self hatered in the person they see decide to. These organization are manipulative and abusive pychologicaly.