Ziigmund bluffs Antonius at the wrong moment

[jismjacket]

what's with the clipboard??

[UallMine]

Howard Lederer is aggressive when he takes cash...

[admiralzia]

I really enjoy Howard Lederer's aggression in cash games.

[91Holdem]

howard ledder fucking twat

[coreycunninghamkarl]

"He gets through Howards pocket aces..."

[butters226]

@coreycunninghamkarl haha that made me lol

[doublejay]

wheres my money howard!?

[XvxGOODMUSICxvX]

Never fold a suited Ace- it's the nut flush.

I just want to take all of zigfucks money- he's the worst poker player alive. doesn't desire that money .

[moctezuma2008]

@XvxGOODMUSICxvX lol excuse me? zigmund is one of the best cash players out there have some respect kid. raising 4k UTG is a pretty strong raise, howard was out of position and he didn't have enough pot odds even if he was on the SB since no one else called zigmund raise. you also have to consider that playing a weak ace can get you in a lot of trouble out of position. the chances of flopping the nut flush is 118 to 1. so shut up noob and play some real poker before criticizing pro players

[bogdychamp]

@moctezuma2008 u are right about Ziigmund though.He's a great player.

[moctezuma2008]

@XvxGOODMUSICxvX lol excuse me? zigmund is one of the best cash players out there have some respect kid. raising 4k UTG is a pretty strong raise, howard was out of position and he didn't have pot odds even if he was on the SB since no one else called zigmund raise. you also have to consider that playing a weak ace can get you in a lot of trouble out of position. the chances of flopping the nut flush is 118 to 1.so shut up noob and play some real poker before criticizing pro players

[bogdychamp]

@moctezuma2008 no offence but Howard deserves to be criticized for that stupid fold pre-flop.Zigmund only raised to 4 k , he didn't go all in.Lederer should of called to see a flop.He had a good hand.With a hand like suited ace, if u don't flop a flush or a flush draw , it's an easy fold. He only would of lost 4k.It's not such a big deal considering their stack size.

[GOLDSILVERDUDE]

Howard is simply outmatched and outclassed. He is used to folding his way to final tables. HEE HAW

[elrath]

The noise of chips clacking together makes me want to claw my face off.

[TwistedMetal32]

@elrath You must not play live, if at all.

[elrath]

@TwistedMetal32 You are correct, I do not play live, but when I'm playing with my friends we can all sit there and not mindlesly mash chips together like we have ADD.

[phobiazzzero]

what `s ivey writing there lmao

[ketchup143]

@phobiazzzero prop bets



[phobiazzzero]

@ketchup143 sorry about the noob question@_@ ..but whats a prop bet ...

[godzac]

@phobiazzzero It's a side bet. They can make little bets amongst each other about what flops will come up, and so on. There are countless types of prop bets.

[phobiazzzero]

@godzac thx

[near10]

ppl stop asking what howard is doing on this table.HE'S HERE TO HELP THE DEALER

[speedball1919]

Gotta love zigg's fold in disgust  4:18

[yak305]

he got invited,hes a pow

[tranquility321]

Lol @ Ivey 'thats me' and thinking about how much he has won in prob bets on that flop and not giving a shit about playing anymore part in the hand.

[PojebanyMany]

For them playing against Howard is like a dream, as long as he doesnt have nuts you can push him of anything ;)

[m4rkyboy]

Howard is the rich dude without whom this game would never happen

[ATfilms21]

howard lederer folded ace6-suited for 4k on the button? =/ dayem. ivey called that exact same hand on hsp for 26k loll.

[20katsuki]

@ATfilms21 No he was on the small blind

[radlerxo]

its funny because antonius is like father to ziig

[golfmaniac007]

those prop bet discussions are annoying.

[dalailama83]

No limit omaha game with...what does dwan say?

[narungga]

what is phil talking about guys? what is he writing? i think i missed something

[guanaco103]

@narungga props

[ttom1122]

@narungga he's keeping track of prop bets based on what comes out on the flop.

[onnelako]

Hilarious that Lederer is sitting there with 4 of the most unpredictable cash game players that there is!

[jeppoification]

@onnelako i think thats the point

[KevinDorner]

I don't get how Lederer can throw away a suited ace. You always wanne see the flop with a hand that is of such high potential. And the flop would've been a monster for Lederer if he had played. But as usual he prefered to fold and talk instead. How did that man manage to make millions in poker? ^^

[Maverrick11]

@KevinDorner I can tell you don't know much about poker. He was raised, he is not in position. why put in another $4,000 if he can just fold. The flop is not a monster, its decent..but even if he hits the flush, a paired board is risky to bet into with a flush, especially when sahamies raised pre flop, he could be holding pocket 7's, pocket jacks, both easy to raise with pre flop.

[mrKdiggs21]

@Maverrick11 lick some balls big doucher

[papichulobumber1]

@Maverrick11 Ivey and Antonius call OOp to the IR. but lederers problem is that he doesnt have enough implied odds because of who he is. A tight nit that is. Imagine howard hitting his imaginary flush on the turn after calling 2 to 1 bet on the flop. Someone like Antonius sitting there with 97, is gonna suspect somethings up. Cause unless Lederer's completely bluffing(which he wouldnt) trips sevens is probably losing now. And getting another 60k from Antonius is just to marginal.

[supern00b]

@KevinDorner he's old money

[neoplej]

Howard everytime folds beat hand preflop.

[wolfikausn]

he plays it like a set ^^

[mellettolag]

i love how when ziggy looks at Patrik he looks up hahaha

[hommage101]

Fin on Fin violence hahahaha

[IDGeneratorS]

when finnish poker players play cards, the hands there delt and the money that is at stake is irrelevant, your seeinga classic example of that here

[weeeeeeeeee555]

wow..................... stupid

!!

[macarthur19]

Did Howard say he had flush draw?!?! He doesn't play anything lower than suited aces.

[RabosTroll]

Howards wasting money like yoghy drink

[b1naryd1g1t5]

I hate all these side prop bets they do. They do it on High Stakes Poker too and it gets on my freakin nerves.

[ronoc89]

is howard rich from poker or wot????

[cardmastad]

howard is the only true poker player at the table, the rest of these guys are lucky donks

[jwang604]

@cardmastad Ivey is a lucky donk? Go heads up with the guy in full tilt, he'll take you and your family's savings.

[BlackSuitAffair]

Zigmund's specialty is Oklahoma Poker, not Texas Hold'em. He even said that himself in an Interview. However his Oklahoma skills are superb. He's even better than Durrr in Oklahoma.

[irbenson]

@BlackSuitAffair omaha? o.o

[shadowsbode]

@BlackSuitAffair  Hahahahahaha

[UndercoverLdn]

Howard folds A6s and Ivey calls with 63s.

Why is Howard Lederer rich and I'm not..... this is a fucked up world we're living in. God I hate that man....

[the3bigreddevils]

@UndercoverLdn dude your retarded. not even going to cover the ace rag fold. if you cant understand why then you need to learn poker

[UndercoverLdn]

@the3bigreddevils

Yes I do understand and ace/rag is infact garbage, but seriously Howard Lederer is a fucking pussy. He never plays a hand. He would probably fold A10s in late position in an unraised pot. He's just pathetic.

[kudos100]

Apparently lederer is one of the best limit players in the world. No limit, no so much lol

[ensayofr]

@kudos100 yeah limited to the pre flop... :)

[nybombs]

@ 1:19 - awwwww, I thought Ziigmund is a badass, but the way he talks there shows his soft side :)

[krazyazn208]

howard should stick to tournaments/working on full tilt stuff.

[benjkamu]

Antonius just knows everything

[rico305305]

i dunno why but i can't stand phil gordon and howard ledger......they both annoy the hell outta me! ledger is a nit and gordon likes talking smart poker only when he is commentating and can see the whole cards! not sure how either of these guys are considered pros seriously!

[tarzaniac9]

I bet Howard played better when he was a fatass

[3StevieD]

ZIIGMUND, ELI ELEZRA, TOM DWAN, PHIL IVEY all in the same table!! then there's howard lederer, LOL!!

[gazz12345a]

Howards net worth is more than the rest of the table combined.

[RsVoid]

They play with best cards in world, Copag speacial edition cards.

[schnoods302]

howard will only play with pocket kings, AK or higher lol.

[richhobo101]

Howard's there to count chips

[samueljue]

Ziggmund looked like hes was about to check at 1:19 with the right hand then decided to bet. sort of a tell?

[republicansridiots]

nope, just hand gestures while hes yapping

[Deuter131]

41 cashes, main event final table, and one of the pro old school players, ye he must play bad... youtube specialists

[pasztecik08]

@Deuter131

Sorry but u're an idiot, this is not a WSOP or any other TOURNAMENT,

This is a cash game, and Howard is a waste of time

[LuUk1985]

whats howard doing in the middle of all these g's?

[lamegliogioventu]

@LuUk1985 howard has been palying poker from even before you where born

[Jaquis198]

@LuUk1985 waiting to get pocket aces so he can play a hand

[MrJohnnyBe01]

@LuUk1985 He's looking for fresh pulpit

[VicenzoV]

@LuUk1985 Howard's probably the richest man at the table at that time. Shame the FBI shut down his website.

[bthegreat194]

@VicenzoV

They didnt shut it down just banned americans...

[AugiTheGreat1]

@LuUk1985 he owns all these guys what are you talking about lol

[donmajikjuan]

@LuUk1985 being a successful tournament G.

[Maverrick11]

@LuUk1985 he's part owner of full tilt poker, so he puts himself in these lineups in order to make himself seem like a top notch no limit player to t.v watchers.

[LuUk1985]

@Maverrick11 Fuck FULL Tilt Poker! Bunch a money cheats!

[hommage101]

lol at the speed ziggy throws away his hand.

[bdoyle23]

its like they throw howard in the middle as a sacrificial lamb. i wonder if howard knew the line-up before he accepted an invitation to sit.

[xxxskyskyskyxxx]

howard is a fucking waste of time

[ojvyll]

you barely see antonius getting bluffed.