HHO 7 CELL GENERATOR, INSTALLED IN MY MITSUBISHI

[krammchalad]

I ment to say kilomiters (distance) you used the car with HHO on? As I want to know if the KOH in HHO production will damage the engine after years of usage.

THnaks ,

MIhay

[cavebandit]

@krammchalad

I only used it for about a year (maybe about 10,000 miles). No damage was noticed. The bubbler should scrub any leftover Koh out of the gas.

[krammchalad]

I wanted to know how much miles you have driven on your HHO generater/engine?

Thanks ,

[cavebandit]

@krammchalad

I really don't remember how much was gained with this setup. This was 3 years ago but I do remember that the gain was minimal. This design is very inefficient. Dry cell setups are way more efficient.

[kolkid213]

you might consider not blocking your radiator...it kinda needs air... just saying

[cavebandit]

@kolkid213

I always wondered why that was there.

[uyuzum]

such a good market, but good hesey why does not enter the vehicle manufacturers. Do not you want to sell the car turns bi world. Why do companies do it

[whloo]

did u put anything in u generator? i mean baking soda,salt etc? tq

[cavebandit]

I started out using baking soda (not sure how much) and switched it over to lye. stays cleaner and much better production.

[trevrep2003]

My cars a 1997 Mitsubishi Galant 2.0 GLS and I would like to install a HHO generator. Could you possibly help me out regarding the o2 sensors and what sort of EFIE/MAP/MAF unit to use without messing up my car, although my mechanical knowlwdge is pretty good my electrical knowledge is lame.

Thanks Trev

[cavebandit]

Well I havn't done enough testing with mine yet to make any conclusions. My Eclipse is a 92 so it only has 1 o2 sensor, the idea is that with that sort of emmisions system the computer should compensate in the correct direction. As far as the MAF it shouldn't care what is flowing through it. Time will tell what exactly I have to do.

[paulkaygmailcom]

@cavebandit

HHO systems are a net loss in power any way you look at it.. only gains from cars are fooling the ECMs O2 signal making it run the engine leaner than normal.. HHO is only creating a loss if powered from the engines battery/alternator

[cavebandit]

@paulkaygmailcom

not saying you are wrong... but I noticed you have no proof to backup your claim (videos proving your case). I noticed gains on my 68 Camaro with my beast cell, but have since sold it to finance other things. so there will not be any more testing with that vehicle. The fact that you have checked out my vid means you must have some interest in the idea?

Later

[paulkaygmailcom]

@cavebandit

its basic math really and the laws of thermodynamics. Modern internal combustion engines have an efficiency of 20-30%. Alternators are in the 50-60% range, and the usable energy in the hydrogen from the electrolysis process is in the order of 50–80%. Energy is lost as heat during all these processes, air-fuel burned for mechanical energy "engine", mechanical converted to electrical "alternator", then the electrical to create usable fuel "hho cell". Shall we go deeper into this?

[cavebandit]

@paulkaygmailcom

This will be my last post since the video we are talking about is so old and the setup is ineffficient. I have had this argument before.

Ok, say your carburated car runs 20mpg, even when carbed vehicles are tuned well,they still run pig rich. Lots of unburned fuel, add a flammable gas to the incoming air you are bound to burn more fuel.

Nitrous oxide isnt even flammable and look how much of a power (efficiency) that is. I figure that the oxidation alone is worth something.

[paulkaygmailcom]

@cavebandit

the amount of oxygen produced by these is miniscule compared to the requirements of the engine. Say you have the 2.4L engine and are cruising down the freeway with your engine turning 2500rpm, it would need about 90cfm of air.. that is 2,548 liters per minute! but you might say but air is only 21% oxygen.. in that case it still would be 535L/m required. Some of the better HHOs I've seen on here produces 2.2L/m.. and that would be 1.46L of hydrogen, and ONLY 0.73L of hydrogen!

[cavebandit]

@paulkaygmailcom

you know what...you are right, these things, do nothing, will never work, and have no practical use what so ever. we all need to just sit around spewing "intelligence" to prove others wrong. thanks for your help

[paulkaygmailcom]

@cavebandit

I just hate to see you and others sucked into this snake oil. It borderlines with perpetual motion machines. Your time and hard earned money would better be spent purchasing a WB02 and the software/hardware necessary to reprogram your car's ECM where you can optimize the fuel and spark tables. You will see real and substantial results for both power and efficiency! Most engines are capable of running significantly leaner during cruise but are not allowed to because of NOx outputs.

[trevrep2003]

Hello, it was very interesting to see the set up on your eclipse.

I live in the Czech Republic and a litre of fuel equates in price to an hours minimum wage which is frightening when you think about it.