Baikal IZH-18MH single shot rifle .222 Remington

[The450Boyz]

I have the same gun but in a 30-06

[314299]

@The450Boyz That's a a lot of horsepower in a fairly light rifle, do you find the recoil bad?

[adrien19ful]

what is the type of scope sight on this rifle ?

[314299]

@adrien19ful It's a cheap "Fitco" brand scope, 3-12x40. Not great glass but it seems to work OK.

[forrestry]

Bought one in 7.62x39mm. Fantastic bush rifle and good accuracy out to 150 meters.

[314299]

@forrestry Those are interesting, and a heck of a good deal at the moment. I would get one myself except that I already have a Ruger 77 in 762x39. What sort of groups do you get at 100 yards?

[forrestry]

@314299 2 to 3 inch groups with the open sights. Someone with better eyes or a scope could probably do better, but I am very satisfied with its accuracy. They are good value for the money. I have found that Russian MFS 125 grain bullets shoot better than milsurp rounds. It stopped a mule deer yesterday at 140 meters dead in her tracks.

[314299]

@forrestry Congrats on harvesting that deer. That's pretty decent accuracy considering that the open sights are a little on the coarse side.

[forrestry]

@314299 Still loving that rifle. I take it everywhere.... almost. Nice light rifle to carry in the bush. Proving its reliability, even in the most foul weather.

[314299]

@forrestry With the enclosed firing mechanism there's not a whole lot that can go wrong with them. The only thing I note with mine is that reloads need to be full length sized, if they are not the action lock cannot be counted on to fully engage and the rifle will not fire.

[seulottu]

you can try fine sandpaper and polishing, it makes the trigger pull slightly better.

[BitFox]

Another question, may or may not be a dumb one, but is the barrel free floated?

[314299]

@BitFox No it's not free floated, there is a pressure point right at the tip.

[BitFox]

How heavy lb wise would you say the trigger is? I'm looking into getting the 7.62x39 modle just because the ammo is so cheap, and it comes Chrome lined!

[314299]

@BitFox The trigger feels like it's at leat ten pounds, but I don't have a gauge to verify that.

[livnthedreem]

what type of scope mount is featured or recommended for this rifle?

[314299]

@livnthedreem I'm using a cheap one-piece air rifle scope mount one mine, works fine with the almost non-existent recoil of the .222.

[Thecrossbowdude]

probaly around 100 200 yards

[314299]

@Thecrossbowdude The .222 or .223 are fine for that sort of distance.

[Thecrossbowdude]

ok thanks what rounds would work best for yotes or do u know

[314299]

@Thecrossbowdude Depends on the sort of ranges you are talking. I know guys who have shot them up close with .22 magnum or 17 HMR, but .223 Rem and 22/250 are probably the most popular with the 22/250 being better for long shots.

[Thecrossbowdude]

looking to getting this gun for coyotes wich is better 222 or 223?

[314299]

@Thecrossbowdude From a realistic perspective there is no real difference in the performance of the two rounds. On paper the .223 is a little better, and if you have a choice I would say get one in .223 as ammo is more common than .222 is.

[Thecrossbowdude]

do u know of any other places

[314299]

@Thecrossbowdude You might want to try calling or emailing Baikal Canada a to as them who stocks them near your location.

[Thecrossbowdude]

i live in the toronto area where could i get one?

[314299]

@Thecrossbowdude Elwood Epps used to have them

[idgewe]

is .222 better than .223 or is there not alot in it ?

[314299]

@idgewe No, .222 is not better than .223. Performance of the .223 is slightly better in terms of velocity and the .223 can handle slightly heavier bullets than the .222. As for accuracy I would call them equals.

[Connett2008]

can you get this model in the US?

[314299]

@Connett2008 Remington imported the Baikal rifle and sold them as their "Spartan 18".

[TheSouthernGentleman]

Does it come in 7.62x39?

[314299]

@TheSouthernGentleman Yes they do.

[redneckcityboy1]

I never knew they made this rifle in 222...if i would have known that I wouldnt have bought the 223 version!!!

[314299]

@redneckcityboy1 The .223 versions seem more popular around here as the ammo is a bit easier to come by

[redneckcityboy1]

@314299 well i was already reloading for the 2223 because of my AR so it was the better choice for me anyways

[holmes1978]

Cool!!!

[onmilo]

Nice video.

You may be interested to know these rifles and the shotguns are basically direct copies of the Manufrance "Simplex" single shot guns.

These guns are now imported and marketed through Remington Firearms here in the states and they don't do a whole lot of advertising, actually they do almost no advertising of the guns and they doubled the retail price over what European American Armory was selling the guns for.

Direct and blatent buying up of the competition.HTH

[314299]

@onmilo I'm not familiar with the Manufrance "Simplex" single shot gun, but I did a quick Google search and they certainly do look a lot alike.

Here in Canada the Baikal line is available from Baikal Canada and it was also available as the "Remington Spartan" line. It is my understanding that Remington no longer carries the Baikal products.

[onmilo]

@314299 Taking a quick look at the Remington website does appear to confirm your suspicions as the Sparten line is now absent.

Hopefully EAA or another imprter will begin bringing them in again because the Baikals are really nice guns for the money.

[314299]

@onmilo I also really like Baikal products. Over the past twenty years I've put many, many thousands of shells through several different Baikal shotguns with never a problem. They make a very rugged product at a very nice price.

[ufloetz]

I have one in 7.62x39 it will shoot the hell out of surplus ammo. Have to put a scope on it.

[314299]

@ufloetz A buddy of mine has one in 7.62x39 as well. They were selling for only $199.00, so I was temped to get one but decided against it since I already have a bolt action in this caliber.

[ufloetz]

@314299 My brother has a M77 Compact, Ruger that does 1 inch @ 100 yards groups on S&B from 1978 Surplus 7.62X39, it loves that stuff also.

[314299]

@ufloetz There are not a lot of the Ruger 77 rifles around in 7.62x39. 1' groups are pretty decent from such a light rifle.

[ufloetz]

@314299 I think he could make them touch or better if they were handloads. 1 inch groups are good, hoping my Baikal will once I get a scope on it.

[314299]

@MrTadaaaaaaaaaaaa The IZH-18MH is also available in .223 Rem. I got this in .222 because it was on sale for about $150 less than the same rifle in .223.

[ap13461]

these things drop deer well i have used one for a few years cant complain

[cadets318]

i use a .222 bolt action shooting federal premium .222 rem 50grain ammo with a weaver scope for deer, works great

[314299]

@cadets318 Interesting. I never knew so many folks dropped deer with the .222 round.

[cadets318]

@314299 I live in New Brunswick Cananda, and hunt for whitetail. the bucks around hear are not the biggest deer around, so it works ok

[funkyskiller]

what it be able to take down a large kangeroo in australia

[314299]

I have no idea - no 'roos around here!

Perhaps some one from Australia can tell us....

[Andonious]

Additional to the regular firearm licence you'd need an extra one to cull kangaroos.

[galdorv]

@funkyskiller We have a 222 but im not sure which one or wateva (i dont know much about guns) but i think the bullets are smaller from seeing on the video, but if u get it in the head, it will take it down strait away.

[357STAFFORD]

very nice gun, and optics dude!!!

[314299]

Pretty decent for the price.

[pain548]

is this rife ok for foxing

[314299]

It should be quite suitable as it is handy, simple, safe and plenty accurate,and at a good price as well.

[pain548]

can u fit a sound mod on this gun

[314299]

Not as it comes from the factory. It would have to have the muzzle threaded first.

[pain548]

whot rail is on the top ov this gun is it a wever rail

[314299]

No it's not a Weaver rail, the rifle has an 11mm dovetail, which is similar to the grooves found on most .22 rimfire rifles.

[triplewhiper]

would you recomend using this rifle for deer cause i just got a rifle in the same chambering handed down to me and i was woundering if it is powerfull enough or hits hard enough for deer.

[314299]

In my opinion the .222 is not enough gun for deer. The light weight bullets are designed to kill animals the size of a coyote on down. Not enough bullet weight and certainly not enough penetration with softpoints.

[triplewhiper]

oh i heard if you hit in the heart perfect it works but thats not that easy to hit i didnt think it would be quite big enough to guarantee a kill but i think it would work if you hit them just right from what i have heard so far

[314299]

Poachers shoot deer with the .22LR, so I suppose it can be done with a .222 Rem, however it shouldn't be done as it's not ethical, in my opinion. In the real world things don't generally work as planned so to be humane to use a round that is up to the task all the time - .243 or bigger.

[triplewhiper]

ya i checked my areas game laws and all that, the .222 is legal to shoot deer with its just not recomended others have told me however that it works fine if you hit the heart good or it will run a little

[ferretinpro]

it depends where u are , in england the legal miimum for deer is .240, but if its legal where you are and ur confident in ur bullet placement they would be fine for neck and head shots

[314299]

I still believe in the motto "Use enough gun" and would not use a .222 on deer if I had a choice of a bigger caliber.

[agabla]

ive killed a 150lb deer and 150lb hog with a .222 through the lungs both walked 30 yds bullet had entry and exit hole on both animals

[314299]

@agabla Interesting. What brand of bullet and what bullet weight were you using?

[agabla]

i think they were remington i dont know the weight probably just an average weight

[314299]

@agabla The most common weight for the .222 is 50 grains.

[RINO2006]

not enough energy for deer shot.

[fieldmor77]

Great little review, been thinking of getting one for a while. Looks to be well made.

[314299]

Yes, they are quite well put together especially considering the low price.

[johannvdg]

I bought one a few years ago and have just got the license for it, please let me know what bullets and loads you shot the group with, as well as what mount you used to mount the scope. My scope is pointing downwards to the barrel with the result that I cannot adjust the elevation enough to get it on target at 100yds, had to do some filing to get that right, and I would feel happier with something a bit more standard, if it is out there.

[314299]

Accuracy is best with 50 grain bullets, 55 grain don't shoot nearly as well. I think the group in the photo was shot with 50 grain Sierra softpoints and and Accurate Arms 2300 powder, I don't recall the exact charge weight but you need to tune that to your rifle anyway.

The scope mount was from an on-line place called "DealExtreme", they have it listed as a "25-mm Gun Rail Mount", it's cheap but seems to work well. Good luck getting your rifle sorted out.

[19thepyrochilibean]

song?

[314299]

"Dead Stars" from Russian band "Slot".

[DinoPal]

Got the same in 223, very good gun. By the way this song is better

KINO - Zvezda Po Imeni Solntse / A Star Called Sun

[314299]

Easier to get .223 as well. But I got such a deal on the .222 I can live with the ammo issue. I reload anyway.

[PaPWPW]

i love your (that) rifle, youre a bad ass shooter :)

[314299]

....and sometimes I'm just a bad shot!

[TheHiddenPart]

that's one fine little rifle right there buddy.

Love the hammer forged barrel and twisty look. too bad for the unpopular caliber i guess, .223 may have rendered your life just a bit easier.

[314299]

Yep, the hammer forged spiral barrel looks distinctive, the only other rifles I've seen with it were on Steyr bolt actions, but those are big $.

The Baikal are also available in .223, however because of the less popular .222 caliber this one was on clearance for $150 less. Since I already had .222 reloading dies to "roll my own" it made sense to get the 222.

[TheHiddenPart]

150US$?!?!? DUDE that's a STEAL!

Congratulations!

[314299]

Not quite that good a deal, it was $200 Canadian (About $172 US), which was $150 less than the .223 chambered ones. The .223 sells for about $350 Canadian (about $301 US).

[TheHiddenPart]

i only later noticed you're from Canada.

i've seen these are actually imported here in Italy too.

Importer claims a 279.00€ price tag for the whole caliber lineup, would a 308 Win. be any good?

[314299]

I expect one in .308 Winchester would be a pretty decent hunting rifle. I've fired my friends Baikal in 7.62x54 (similar power to .308 Win) and it was a pretty decent shooter and the recoil was not too bad. Just for comparison 279.00€ is about $450 Canadian or $390 US.

[Iraqveteran8888]

314299,

Have you seen Ammosmith's video about converting M200 blanks to .222 Rem?

I love these rifles and I agree with Gungeek...Any real gun fan should have a rifle in 7.62x54r.

A trigger job shouldnt be hard on a rifle like that.

[314299]

No, I've yet to see that video, I'll have to check it out. Most of my ".222" brass is reformed from commercial .223 Rem brass since the stuff is so common and free for the taking.

I think I've got the 7.62x54R covered with my accumulation of Mosin's and Tokarevs!

I think the main difficulty with doing some work to the trigger on one of these single shots will be dealing with the rather powerful mainspring. But we shall see.

[AussieMaleTuber]

Thankyou. Cheers. David.

[314299]

David, are Baikal rifles and shotguns popular in Australia?

[siprelude89]

Another fine rifle and video sir.

[314299]

Thanks!

[ViperQc]

Whats the dfference between .222 and .223? Thanks

[314299]

The two rounds are very similar.The .222 Remington was developed first and the .223 Remington was developed from it. The .222 is slightly shorter and has less case capacity than the .223. Because of the extra case capacity the . 223 gives slightly more velocity. .222's generally perform best with bullets from 45 to 50 grains while the .223 will handle somewhat heavier bullets.

[Gungeek]

5* All you need now is one in 7.62x54R :)

[314299]

Yes, as anyone with good taste in guns would do! A buddy of mine has one in 7.62x54R, I guess shooting his will have to do me until I get one of my own....