Thank you so much for uploading this scene in a great quality. I will be using this scene to demonstrate the methods of the Stasi in my Speech in school :)
4/3! BTW: I'd like to receive suggestions of films to watch on this specific subject, like Kusturica's "When father was away on business" or this film.
3/3There should be more films explaining how dictatures work, in their very peculiar contexts: Stalin's USSR, North Corea, Pinochet's Chile, Ahmadinejad's Iran, Ghedafi's Lybia etc., all deserve a fiction to explain what documentaries can't tell.
2/3DDR was different: It was working in a highly educated population who wouldn't have accepted more violence (also because communism could only be popular if it was less dictatorial than the preceding nazi rule), it retained some (if not many) of the idealistic principles of communism, and it was a country which existence constantly reminded of the division of the defeated German nation after WW2.
1/3The best film ever showing how a dictatorial regime works: The last 45 seconds of this scene are, I guess, absolutely realistic. And they even show that the DDR was quite different from a regime of pure terror with mass executions and use of torture.
@Cymrolerpwl I agree that Britain is full of vile scum. I refer to Chavs and the other braindead idiots who infest our schools, don't bother trying to learn and just have their heads stuck up their arses all the time. They annoy me too.
That said, I still prefer the thought of living here to living in the DDR. I guess you just can't have a perfect society. The DDR may not have had problems capitalism does today but you just weren't free there. All in all things have changed for the better.
And to think that today, some worthless angry fuck-nut on CNN was literally saying that if putting a surveillance camera on every street corner would save even one life, we should do it.
Americans and Britons should really see this movie. This is what we are rapidly heading into (assuming we are not there already).
This happened in the GDR. Every day. And denying it ever happened makes you as guilty as those who committed these atrocities against their fellow humans beings. Families, lives and people were destroyed by this. There is proof. But I guess the holocaust didn't happen either. Just because people choose not to talk about it and elect the same people who once betrayed them (e.g. Gysi) doesn't mean it never happened. You should never forget it DID happen that's right.
You totally miss my point. My point is that nothing like the Stasi officer's kindness ever happened in this movie. The Stasi were universally assholes, without exception. The SWEETNESS of the Stasi officer in this movie is the fairy tail (not the very real everyday oppressive nature of the STASI itself).
Do you know what they sent her?!! A Cactus plant! It never made it into the final movie, but thats what she was sent. In one part when Wiesler is leaving Dreymanns apartment Ms. Meineke comes out with the plant, tells Wiesler that she doesnt want it, cant have it in her apartment, then, drops it by accident smashing the pot on the floor.
Wiesler looks at her cooly and calmly says as he walks away 'now you wont have to have it in your apartment'.
Such things became possible again with the PATRIOT ACT ... In France, we are not far from having a real fascist goverment so ... this is next ;) Smile, camera's rollin' !
The very term "Patriot act" is an oxymoron created by a Texas village idiot who did everything to destroy patriots with the ACT of being a wanna be dictator. American freedom, 911, the entire war on terror and drugs and airport security is an ACT.
I didn't compare anything. Maybe that's why you live there....You can't read and decipher things for yourself. I said Florida...... What I did not say is anything in or around the nature of "Florida is comparible or even close to Germany or East Germany"
the unbelievable thing is: that was reality! of course not every house was buggy, but some years ago every east german who wanted could go to see in his dossier of the Stasi (east german secret police). most people didn't know that the state knew so much about them and many were shocked reading what the stasi all wrote about them in their files. this scene here is a good example: the stasiofficer here knows details about the neighbour's family: her daughter marsha applied for a medical school...
When our Minister of the Interior Wolfgang Schaeuble continues his politics about observation of the nation, this method of controlling the people could be in use again.
But 'nice' to see that we are not the only country with these damn politicans who want to controll the nation. Damn Idiots...
Thank you so much for uploading this scene in a great quality. I will be using this scene to demonstrate the methods of the Stasi in my Speech in school :)
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Tofu9122 9 months ago
4/3! BTW: I'd like to receive suggestions of films to watch on this specific subject, like Kusturica's "When father was away on business" or this film.
wollin20 11 months ago
3/3There should be more films explaining how dictatures work, in their very peculiar contexts: Stalin's USSR, North Corea, Pinochet's Chile, Ahmadinejad's Iran, Ghedafi's Lybia etc., all deserve a fiction to explain what documentaries can't tell.
wollin20 11 months ago
2/3DDR was different: It was working in a highly educated population who wouldn't have accepted more violence (also because communism could only be popular if it was less dictatorial than the preceding nazi rule), it retained some (if not many) of the idealistic principles of communism, and it was a country which existence constantly reminded of the division of the defeated German nation after WW2.
wollin20 11 months ago
1/3The best film ever showing how a dictatorial regime works: The last 45 seconds of this scene are, I guess, absolutely realistic. And they even show that the DDR was quite different from a regime of pure terror with mass executions and use of torture.
wollin20 11 months ago
@Cymrolerpwl I agree that Britain is full of vile scum. I refer to Chavs and the other braindead idiots who infest our schools, don't bother trying to learn and just have their heads stuck up their arses all the time. They annoy me too.
That said, I still prefer the thought of living here to living in the DDR. I guess you just can't have a perfect society. The DDR may not have had problems capitalism does today but you just weren't free there. All in all things have changed for the better.
The1985Channel 1 year ago
If I hired an electricist it would take 3 months to do all that.
TheCat86 1 year ago 6
@Cymrolerpwl Ich hörre Sie, aber ist deine Leben so schlecht? Ich glaube nict. Peace my man!
PeterMayer 1 year ago
@PeterMayer Höre...bad spelling. Oops!
PeterMayer 1 year ago
@Cymrolerpwl Sie moechten der DDR wieder? Somehow, I don't think so. I noticed color has returned to the former East Berlin.
PeterMayer 1 year ago
@Cymrolerpwl ah, no you don't. I've been there.
PeterMayer 1 year ago
And to think that today, some worthless angry fuck-nut on CNN was literally saying that if putting a surveillance camera on every street corner would save even one life, we should do it.
Americans and Britons should really see this movie. This is what we are rapidly heading into (assuming we are not there already).
EvilTube2007 1 year ago
I want his outfit it seems so plain yet oddly intimidating
Garhunt05 1 year ago 2
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smorinjo 1 year ago
at least the gdr was not infected with muslims...
Thronsohn 2 years ago 3
nice scene, I may need it for an important school test, thanks!
AbuyanisTV 2 years ago 4
No problem! :)
CroppyBoy1798 2 years ago
I thought the Stasi did bug homes...
FallschirmjagerX 2 years ago
This happened in the GDR. Every day. And denying it ever happened makes you as guilty as those who committed these atrocities against their fellow humans beings. Families, lives and people were destroyed by this. There is proof. But I guess the holocaust didn't happen either. Just because people choose not to talk about it and elect the same people who once betrayed them (e.g. Gysi) doesn't mean it never happened. You should never forget it DID happen that's right.
Desertkingseattle 2 years ago 3
You totally miss my point. My point is that nothing like the Stasi officer's kindness ever happened in this movie. The Stasi were universally assholes, without exception. The SWEETNESS of the Stasi officer in this movie is the fairy tail (not the very real everyday oppressive nature of the STASI itself).
mvonwahlde 2 years ago 2
First of all, the Stasi officer in this movie is not "sweet." He is pretty conflicted between being ruthless and being human.
Second, if you want to know about history than watch a documentary. This is a drama, where you put humans into a situation and say "what if."
milovy 2 years ago 2
Thank's for the post, thought-policeman.
mvonwahlde 2 years ago
You know how to tell if the Stasi has bugged your place? There's a new cabinet!
JustPhilNY 2 years ago 2
a great film
gaggi52 2 years ago 2
They even sent a Thank you gift to Ms. Meineke. The overfunded FBI would never have done that.
vdvsoldat 2 years ago 7
Do you know what they sent her?!! A Cactus plant! It never made it into the final movie, but thats what she was sent. In one part when Wiesler is leaving Dreymanns apartment Ms. Meineke comes out with the plant, tells Wiesler that she doesnt want it, cant have it in her apartment, then, drops it by accident smashing the pot on the floor.
Wiesler looks at her cooly and calmly says as he walks away 'now you wont have to have it in your apartment'.
lol.
CroppyBoy1798 2 years ago
@vdvsoldat its not a gift, as much as a reminder that "we remember what you saw that day".
SulfurCitizen 1 year ago
Der Herr Dreyman hat eine schöne Wohnung.
SpichaFleetsa 3 years ago
this film ist so coool...
and with actors like Ulrich and SEbastian Koch.. omg.. awesomeeee
Hope i can get the dvd ...
films like this worth it...
veronice 3 years ago
You have to admire their efficiency, lol!
Harnolb 3 years ago
Such things became possible again with the PATRIOT ACT ... In France, we are not far from having a real fascist goverment so ... this is next ;) Smile, camera's rollin' !
redguard12 3 years ago
The very term "Patriot act" is an oxymoron created by a Texas village idiot who did everything to destroy patriots with the ACT of being a wanna be dictator. American freedom, 911, the entire war on terror and drugs and airport security is an ACT.
vdvsoldat 2 years ago
Sucks you can't be free, can't think on your own, can't have a free market and have to be forced to live in some socialist dictatorship doesn't it?
Florida.......
Goopster1 2 years ago
Yeah it does ... but it's even worse to live in a place with free market AND dictatorship ;)
redguard12 2 years ago
@Goopster1 You honestly think that Florida can be compared to East Germany? Please....
PeterMayer 1 year ago
@PeterMayer
I didn't compare anything. Maybe that's why you live there....You can't read and decipher things for yourself. I said Florida...... What I did not say is anything in or around the nature of "Florida is comparible or even close to Germany or East Germany"
Please graduate school.
Goopster1 1 year ago
the unbelievable thing is: that was reality! of course not every house was buggy, but some years ago every east german who wanted could go to see in his dossier of the Stasi (east german secret police). most people didn't know that the state knew so much about them and many were shocked reading what the stasi all wrote about them in their files. this scene here is a good example: the stasiofficer here knows details about the neighbour's family: her daughter marsha applied for a medical school...
BlauerBooo 3 years ago 5
> but some years ago every east german who
> wanted could go to see in his dossier
> of the Stasi
It is still possible for people to read their Stasi dossiers.
kotangens 3 years ago
it is?
so if i had lived in the GDR i would go to see what they knew about me. ^^
BlauerBooo 3 years ago
All hollywood action movies/love stories are nothing compared to this one... Great!
milan20050 3 years ago 5
Is this movie easily found in the US? I'm just wondering so I can grab a copy. Thanks!
JoeOnTheRoad 3 years ago
since it got an oscar i guess this movie has to be available in the us. at least in many video stores.
BlauerBooo 3 years ago
Yea I actually saw it on TV. I'm buying a copy eventually it was a very good movie. Thanks BlauerBooo
JoeOnTheRoad 3 years ago
haha ^^ no problem.
BlauerBooo 3 years ago
Correct. I rented it at my local video store, which specializes in foreign films.
SpichaFleetsa 3 years ago
What's the store called?
RampinUp46 2 years ago
This is Sweden 2008! 20 years later the Swedish secret police use even more sophisticated means to control its citizens. This is no joke.
tycotyrann 3 years ago
When our Minister of the Interior Wolfgang Schaeuble continues his politics about observation of the nation, this method of controlling the people could be in use again.
But 'nice' to see that we are not the only country with these damn politicans who want to controll the nation. Damn Idiots...
germanpilot999 3 years ago
man you are so fucking right about schaeuble
MitchMaker 3 years ago
wenn schäuble so weiter macht, sieht es bald wieder so aus
MitchMaker 3 years ago 6
Deutscher Filmklassiker, ewiges Meisterwerk - Die DDR aus düsterer Sicht (die sie freilich nicht nur war)
DerOgraf 3 years ago
der beste film der welt
iosip2 3 years ago 8
eine sehr gute szene aus einem meisterwerk der deutschen filmkunst
MitchMaker 3 years ago 10