Great Writers 2: D.H. Lawrence

[paisleyyama]

I`m almost through with Sons & Lovers & as a woman I`m not so impressed w/DH. My impression is he had deep issues w/women that`s reflected in his writing. It seems he had a rather perverse relationship w/his mom where his mom wanted him all to herself & to a great part he consented but took the resentment out on other women. All the female characters in his book are essentially the same--rather bitter, hussies to the core to be abused by men.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

@paisleyyama I didn't really feel that about his women.

[paisleyyama]

@OldGrumpyGuy This is the 1st bk I`ve read of his & it says it`s somewhat autobiographical. I can`t speak of his female characters in other bks, but this one the women really come across as bitter hussies in my opinion. It`s an interesting bk though. I can`t say I "enjoy" reading it based on the female characters & the way the men treat the women, but it`s the sort of book I don`t want to put down either. So I`ll give him credit as a good writer and story teller in that respect.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

@paisleyyama I didn't really feel that about his women.

[WoWoNiceLady]

I don't know who you are, I'm taking a punt on you so don't let me down, don't make me feel like a cuntplease

[OldGrumpyGuy]

@WoWoNiceLady I wouldn't dream of it

[xinxinming]

Thanks so much ! You introduced D.H. Lawrence to me just when I really needed him.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

@xinxinming My pleasure. Thanks for your comment

[dawsonbonde]

My spontaneity is so often misunderstood, it brings about both disregard and the utmost respect. It is the over zealous enforcers of individuality who most hinder my path. Thank you for the video, I have some reading to do.

[writingsofmine]

Oh I have a feeling this old grumpy guy, with a very spiffy robe, and a far away mirror, opened D.H. Lawrence books for the same reason I picked them up. And besides that, what made Lady Chatterley's Lover such a great movie, too, is the Nietzschean overtones, how it shapes all of these characters. I'm going to check out many other of your videos, they're great.

[emmasutube]

Those lines about the fig are actually from a poem in Lawrence's book "Birds, Beasts, and Flowers."

[hugoefoda]

i am reading bukowski right now and he made quite a few references of him in ham on rye, thats how i ended up here. dh lawrence seems to be a very interesting writer, which of his books would you recommend for someone who never read his work? thanks for the video

[OldGrumpyGuy]

Sons and Lovers is not a bad place to start, or Women in Love.

[GuamIsGood]

Of course I'll tell you to read Lady Chatterleys Lover and if you're insatiable try Quetzalcoatl. How the fuck did I get here, listening to a biography about Lawrence?

[rocketqueenz]

@hugoefoda I am a huge Bukowski fan. Read DH Lawrence for a class, fell in love with Lady Chatterly ... A definite recommend.

[Artlitfan]

I especial enjoy Lawrence's "Studies in Classic American Literature". He was such a remarkable critic and thinker. It enhances the works mentioned by reading it, like "The Scarlet Letter" or "Moby-Dick".

"The Rainbow" I think is an underrated novel.

[AnotherWorld82]

I'm looking for a book called 'The Phoenix' or just 'Phoenix' by D.H. Lawrence, I can't seem to find it anywhere. I have a feeling it may be called something else now... help anyone? It was recommended to me.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

The Phoenix was an anthology of some f his lesser works (see Wikipedia).

[daringdavie]

I totally loved this video Grumpy guy, I'm currantly on hols from uni where I'm studying English Lit and I'm doing some summer reading of the Modernist authors and your video has given me some much required background. So thenks very much for that. Take Care.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

I'm glad it was of some help.

[xensboy]

First time I see one of your videos. I think this is excellent, very eloquent and thought-provoking.

Lawrence fascinated me years ago and, for unknown reasons, I've been holding back a return to his great writing.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

I'm glad to have revived your interest

[postalsock]

My friend just read Wuthering Heights. I would like to read that novel. I can relate myself to feeling like an outsider. I also moved frequently. They say loners usually begin reading heavily. I can think of a few reasons why this is true.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

I think that's truew. btw I will be featuring the Brontes (when I have the time) with emphasis on Emily Bronte and Wuthering Heights

[arunkumar5710]

Lawrence just sucks you up into his own world a world which he has made and you forget about yourself and the tangible world around you. This is specailly evident in Women in Love and some of his short stories like The princess, The virgin and the gypsy and many others.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

Thanks for reminding me of The Virgin and The Gypsy. I remember a movie of that too, starring Franco Nero.

[arunkumar5710]

Oh God looks like you are talking for me. That's just what I think. I am author myself. I have written a historical novel recently titled 'Recalcitrance'

[rebeccawitham]

I'm a big Lawrence fan and have read almost all of his books - though have not seen any movie adaptions.

Seeing the short clips on this video has convinced me to watch them.

Thanks very much for the post - you do a great job of rounding up Lawrence's life/works for those who aren't familiar with it/them.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

Thanks Rebecca

[Morgana0x]

Nice series. The Lost Girl, a lesser known novel of his, plus his book of short stories, England, My England, are two favourites of mine.

[definitelymaybe69]

interesting

[gardnermarketer]

Very interesting

[grutterby]

Excellent

[richardleigh7654]

Nice job. Looking forward to the next one

[CowboyArtist]

This is my favorite Youtube subscription. You are doing a great service OGG. I'll pick up Sons and Lovers next time I'm out, and I look forward to your next author.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

Thanks so much CA.

[gardnermarketer]

So far I am enjoying this series even more than the composer series (and I really did enjoy the composer series)

[Jimbo1964]

DH Lawrence A fine choice for one of your entertaining essays. I had a writing teacher who considered Lawrence a "novelists novelist." and we studied Sons and Lovers as an example of introductory novel or one we should hope to emulate as a first work. Lawrence wrote an essay discussing the art of the novel and OGG may enjoy reading that.

[ComradeJenny]

I stand with you on individuality, not subscribing to group norms and the need to escape from cultural restrains.

A great man once wrote: Unlike Oscar Wilde, I wanted to be a panther, not just consort with them. I wanted to learn how to snarl ferociously and keep the world at bay, spitting defiance at those who would try to oppress or intimidate me

Never read a D.H. Lawrence, anyone can recommend which of his book I should read first?

[peoplematter1]

Sons and Lovers. It's a quick read. It's a bit autobiographical. It's one of his earlier acclaimed works. Your library will not be complete without it. Lawrence was a damn good writer. Hope you enjoy.

[OldGrumpyGuy]

I agree. That's as good as any of his and it's early in his career.

[ComradeJenny]

Thanks, I added it to my wish-list :)

[silverstartrucker]

Very entertaining. Eastwood is not far from where I live. Reading and music were my favourite subjects at school.

[melissakresnauw]

Very interesting grumpy your getting me interested in reading good writers

[orioleflyer]

No doubt about it OGG you are a true original

[OldGrumpyGuy]

thank you

[timminslock]

Excellent video. But I hope your next video is not going to be about someone like James Patterson or one of the other pulp writers

[OldGrumpyGuy]

No, it is certainly not James Patterson. I have actually enjoyed a couple of James Patterson novels, and you have to admire his skill at keeping you turning the pages. But with Patterson and other pulp writers you are always left with the feeling you get after eating junk food. It fills a hole but is not exactly memorable or nourishing.

[blueshadowdude]

I have a question on Lady Chatterleys Lover that perhaps you may have an insight into: you said that it was banned for its sexuality, but of what I understood was that the novel was considered more outrageous due to its shunning of the social class morals of the time. What are your thoughts?

[OldGrumpyGuy]

I think there might have been some general bias among the Establishment against Lawrence, particularly after he eloped with the German wife of a professor, but it was mainly the sexual content of Lady Chatterly that got it banned. After all, none of his other works was banned.

[blueshadowdude]

The sexual content in the Lady Chatterley seems so... sedate in comparison to, so say Fanny Hill that was written some 150 - 200 years before. But I suppose it was the post-Edwardian period we are talking about. That was the time that my own country (Canada) came of age and in some ways are still stuck in that mindset (morally and politically).

[blueshadowdude]

I have to say Grumpy that I found this video youre best yet, informative, entertaining and a bit naughty. Thanks for including the speech on the fig; I think that its one of Lawrences more clever bits of writing. Sadly Ive not be much of a student of Lawrence. Ive only read Lady Chatterleys Lover and Women in Love. time.

[buster81365]

5* very intiguing awaiting more of your videos