1.19 Justin Martyr

[thone2008]

Justin Martyr is a Gospel Author

[kiwichristian2009]

Just prior to the consecration of the mass, if someone added arsenic to the elements of bread and wine, would the poison within those elements be changed and made harmless after the consecration was finished, and would the priest and the people now partake of these changed substances, if not why not?

[rosebeeh]

C. S. Lewis had a different theory. He felt that God had revealed himself in ancient times to all mankind and pagans had a small amount of truth.

[SonnyDelight55]

Zeitgeist plays spooky music, so it must be true.

[hat655]

He converted from Paganism to Christianity. Why would someone who knows it is a lie convert religion and die for a lie? It doesn't make sense.

Also everyone who wrote the New Testement was Jewish apart from Luke.

The Jews are not a myth making people!

Notice how Pagans believe in many gods and Christians believe in 1 God.

The Jews didn't know the Pagan myths. The Greeks and Romans tried to spread them but they failed.

This shows how the Gospel writers were writtung the truth.

AMEN.

[kennyanderson]

People die for lies that they believe to be true but they do not willingly die for what they know to be a lie.

[EscapeNewJersey]

No, logos or wisdom has always been in the world. Threads of truth where found in even the pagan religion. Even Plato used philosophy to nearly reason the existence of God and Jesus Christ.

[nabel1971]

shame on those people who still believe in bible, i do not blame those who believed in it 1000 years ago because they had no idea about the universe, but shame on on those who beleive god created the earth 6000 years ago and still believing all the nonsense in bible and Quran is the truth.

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 Will Allah reward the good deeds of Unbelievers? S. 9:17 and 9:69 clearly say no. However, S. 99:7 implies yes. Moreover, S. 2:62 promises Christians reward for their good deeds. But S. 9:28-33; 5:17, 72-73 calls Christians idolaters, and S. 9:17 is very clear that idolaters will have no reward.

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 How many angels were talking to Mary? When the Qur'an speaks about the announciation of the birth of Jesus to the virgin Mary, Sura 3:42,45 speaks about (several) angels while it is only one in Sura 19:17-21. Six or eight days of creation? Sura 7:54, 10:3, 11:7, and 25:59 clearly state that God created "the heavens and the earth" in six days. But in 41:9-12 the detailed description of the creation procedure adds up to eight days.

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 What was man created from? A blood clot [96:1-2], water [21:30, 24:45, 25:54], "sounding" (i.e. burned) clay [15:26], dust [3:59, 30:20, 35:11], nothing [19:67] and this is then denied in 52:35, earth [11:61], a drop of thickened fluid [16:4, 75:37]. Have sex with your women whenever and as often as you like. 2:223, Your wives and children are your enemies. They are to you only a temptation. 64:14-15, 

[nabel1971]

@kiwichristian2009

you mis-understood me, i do not belive in Quran,what i meant is that both (bible and Quran) are two sides of the same coin.

they all talk about the same staff, 6 days of creation, human from mud and dirt, and so on.

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 Yes, i realised that after i had posted. My apologies. Now, you believe in evolution, yes? Did you know that there has never been ANY evidence proven that contradicts anything in the Bible?

[nabel1971]

@kiwichristian2009

well, the creation story contradict the evolution theory (which is a fact).

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 Well, i have never seen any proved evolution "facts" before. Can you give me one?

[nabel1971]

@kiwichristian2009

you need to listen to the experts then, or read a book called the greatest show on earth, it shows you the evidence you need. but i am sure you will not accept any evidence they produce, because your bible has told you something else.

so, you have two options:

the first one is to stick with the creation story of the bible, and the seond one is to learn about the evolution and leave the bible behind.

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 I have, and i have not seen any evidence of evolution. again, show me one evidence, please.

[nabel1971]

@kiwichristian2009

you have not seen any evidence yet, that's because you are not willing to learn.

your ignorance does not falsify the evolution,but quite the opposite.

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 Oh, i am. I could say the same thing about you. Rather than making blanket statements, show me ONE evidence of evolution please.

[nabel1971]

@kiwichristian2009

you live out of this world my friend, go and educate yourself if you are a serious person.

at least i gave you a name of a book which produce the evidence you requested, that book has listed the whole evidences about the evolution.

by the way, why your God created two nipples for a male? and why females got thin hairs all over their bodies?

not a great designer then!

[kiwichristian2009]

@nabel1971 The ancient Arabians worshipped the Moon God who married the Sun Goddess and they produced three goddesses, Al-lat, Al-luzza and Manat. The three daughters of the Moon God came to be worshipped as - the daughters of Allah, because that was the name of the Moon God. Sura 23:91 proclaims "Say not that Allah Begot a Son". John3:16 says that God begot a son. Allah and God are not the same.

[ByzantineChristian]

....and since you don't believe there is a devil..by default Justin was delusional, right?

[fonna]

No, it just states, that Justin Martyr agreed and KNEW that the Jesus story was very similar to the Pagan beliefs. And instead of being truthful and admitting plagiarism, he blamed it on the imaginary "devil", like fanatics use to explain away every uncomfortable situation they get into that shows them guilty,... til this day.

[fonna]

More specifically....he LIED.