So, the people who themselves were not inoculated from Small pox handed out blankets so they would kill others while AT THE SAME TIME were getting a dose themselves?
This lady is spewing ridiculous baloney not based in Logic or History but rumors.
PLENTY of white people suffered from smallpox and Indians who came in contact also suffered. But I suppose the white people all understood germ theory and microbiology back then. Right.
@fremontdenver Sorry man, the REAL source of all evil is the human mind, not some supernatural bogeyman. That a simple, frail, mortal human could conceive of something so deplorable is awful, but as soon as we assign the blame to some spectral "other" we run the risk of allowing it to happen again. Only by taking responsibility for the evils WE AS HUMANS committed WITHOUT SUPERNATURAL GUIDANCE, we will never progress beyond them, the evil you do is your fault, not Satan's
OMG! I never knew the British did that to Native Americans. That is awful. Also, the Spanish did a similar thing unintentionally I think to the Aztecs/Mayans. It's just awful that some men as so sick as to even think of using a sickness as a weapon...
He acted as if he was a friend to the Indians, giving them warm blankets to cover up in, when he knew all along that he was ushering them to there death, knowing that the virus was on the blankets, they don't mention that in history class...
@Rexicano Previous infection or exposure to attenuated forms of the virus. Remember, europeans were definitely immunocompetent when exposed to this virus. And yes, it did happen. ""You will do well to try to inoculate the Indians, by means of blankets, as well as to try every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race." -Lord Jeffrey Amherst". There were certainly other exposures from contact, but this is quite damning.
If they were "immunocompetent" then why were there so many sick and dying soldiers at the forts?
Since they were immunocompetent where did they get the smallpox?
Men were ordered to go pickup the blankets and had not a care about getting infected themselves. They had such sophisticated knowledge about microbiology...they were infectious Disease experts...they never burned the bedding of sick men...because they were immunocompetent.
@Rexicano "Great Fairy Tale." Except for the fact that the plan was documented by the primary suspect in many letters and journals in his own hand. Now there is no doubt that other exposure did occur thru contact that was both friendly and antagonistic. That's just the nature of human life. But I'm curious as to why you do not think this occured despite the data available?
Right; and you were there leaning over him as he wrote those letters.
Why do I not believe it?
LOGIC.
As I stated; the white guys were just as afraid as anyone of Smallpox. And the Officers would risk infecting their own men on the chance the Indians would get sick?
Like I said; your belief is that they were experts in vectors of disease. Right.
And as for your "That's just the nature of human life"...what insight!
@Rexicano The diaries and journals have been authenticated, the vitriol within them manifest, and as you seem to forget, most of the people who were of european origin had at least some exposure to the disease and perhaps a limited immunity, as it requires a certain dose of any pathogen for it to be effective. And yes, my insight is quite corect. After a career in the military, including a time as the NBC warfare officer of my unit, any weapon will be used if there is no consquence. (continued)
I hope you're not trying to say the Indians had no "vitriol" for either the new arrivals OR for the other TRIBES they were at war with?
I'm Native American; does that make me more "insightful"? And all my family were US Military; again....do I know more. No.
You believe what you want re History. I'll believe in the Sherlock Holmes approach and trust my own Native intelligence. And "laws of war"? Anyone with sense knows you break them freely In the age of Drones.
@Rexicano I'll go with what the evidence says. That's plainly put on the weight on English shoulders. They knew the disease, they knew a method of transmission, they knew the native population had never seen anything like this, and they had motive: eradication. And it was very effective. This is would stand up to the "beyond reasonable doubt" test in any court today. If you want to reject data based on you own "Native intelligence", fine. But I take my facts as they are, minus bias.
@Rexicano It's only in the modern age that we have enforcable agreements and "laws of war". Chemical weapons have had their role on the battlefield, so also biological ones. We are fortunate to live in an age where most of these weapons are controlled by powers that have a little more enlightenment. It's one of my greatest fears that something like this will once more get into the hands of someone who's got nothing to lose.
The british and the white north americans are sociopaths!
razmoe2000 3 months ago
So, the people who themselves were not inoculated from Small pox handed out blankets so they would kill others while AT THE SAME TIME were getting a dose themselves?
This lady is spewing ridiculous baloney not based in Logic or History but rumors.
PLENTY of white people suffered from smallpox and Indians who came in contact also suffered. But I suppose the white people all understood germ theory and microbiology back then. Right.
Rexicano 6 months ago
In school they told us that no one knows how those American Indians died.
Thanks Great Info!!!!
Jupiterironman 7 months ago
Isn't it amazing how even though you tell people that the accusation is false, they still react to it and repeat it as if it were fact?
Americcan 11 months ago
whoever would release this virus...no matter who they are or what their purpose was behind it...would clearly be doing the work of satan
fremontdenver 1 year ago
@fremontdenver Sorry man, the REAL source of all evil is the human mind, not some supernatural bogeyman. That a simple, frail, mortal human could conceive of something so deplorable is awful, but as soon as we assign the blame to some spectral "other" we run the risk of allowing it to happen again. Only by taking responsibility for the evils WE AS HUMANS committed WITHOUT SUPERNATURAL GUIDANCE, we will never progress beyond them, the evil you do is your fault, not Satan's
wendighoul 10 months ago
OMG! I never knew the British did that to Native Americans. That is awful. Also, the Spanish did a similar thing unintentionally I think to the Aztecs/Mayans. It's just awful that some men as so sick as to even think of using a sickness as a weapon...
Amandandoug 1 year ago
@Amandandoug
It never happened. Research more than a posted YouTube lie.
Rexicano 6 months ago
He acted as if he was a friend to the Indians, giving them warm blankets to cover up in, when he knew all along that he was ushering them to there death, knowing that the virus was on the blankets, they don't mention that in history class...
algood 1 year ago
@algood learned that in history you god damn idiot
doctorSCRILL 11 months ago
@algood learned that in history you god damn idiot
doctorSCRILL 11 months ago
@algood
Because it's not History; it bullshit.
How do they hand out blankets and NOT get infected themselves?
You lack logical thinking skills and research ability.
Rexicano 6 months ago
@Rexicano Previous infection or exposure to attenuated forms of the virus. Remember, europeans were definitely immunocompetent when exposed to this virus. And yes, it did happen. ""You will do well to try to inoculate the Indians, by means of blankets, as well as to try every other method that can serve to extirpate this execrable race." -Lord Jeffrey Amherst". There were certainly other exposures from contact, but this is quite damning.
NorthForkFisherman 5 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
If they were "immunocompetent" then why were there so many sick and dying soldiers at the forts?
Since they were immunocompetent where did they get the smallpox?
Men were ordered to go pickup the blankets and had not a care about getting infected themselves. They had such sophisticated knowledge about microbiology...they were infectious Disease experts...they never burned the bedding of sick men...because they were immunocompetent.
Great Fairy Tale.
Rexicano 5 months ago
@Rexicano "Great Fairy Tale." Except for the fact that the plan was documented by the primary suspect in many letters and journals in his own hand. Now there is no doubt that other exposure did occur thru contact that was both friendly and antagonistic. That's just the nature of human life. But I'm curious as to why you do not think this occured despite the data available?
NorthForkFisherman 5 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
Right; and you were there leaning over him as he wrote those letters.
Why do I not believe it?
LOGIC.
As I stated; the white guys were just as afraid as anyone of Smallpox. And the Officers would risk infecting their own men on the chance the Indians would get sick?
Like I said; your belief is that they were experts in vectors of disease. Right.
And as for your "That's just the nature of human life"...what insight!
Rexicano 5 months ago
@Rexicano The diaries and journals have been authenticated, the vitriol within them manifest, and as you seem to forget, most of the people who were of european origin had at least some exposure to the disease and perhaps a limited immunity, as it requires a certain dose of any pathogen for it to be effective. And yes, my insight is quite corect. After a career in the military, including a time as the NBC warfare officer of my unit, any weapon will be used if there is no consquence. (continued)
NorthForkFisherman 5 months ago
@NorthForkFisherman
I hope you're not trying to say the Indians had no "vitriol" for either the new arrivals OR for the other TRIBES they were at war with?
I'm Native American; does that make me more "insightful"? And all my family were US Military; again....do I know more. No.
You believe what you want re History. I'll believe in the Sherlock Holmes approach and trust my own Native intelligence. And "laws of war"? Anyone with sense knows you break them freely In the age of Drones.
Rexicano 5 months ago
@Rexicano I'll go with what the evidence says. That's plainly put on the weight on English shoulders. They knew the disease, they knew a method of transmission, they knew the native population had never seen anything like this, and they had motive: eradication. And it was very effective. This is would stand up to the "beyond reasonable doubt" test in any court today. If you want to reject data based on you own "Native intelligence", fine. But I take my facts as they are, minus bias.
NorthForkFisherman 5 months ago
@Rexicano It's only in the modern age that we have enforcable agreements and "laws of war". Chemical weapons have had their role on the battlefield, so also biological ones. We are fortunate to live in an age where most of these weapons are controlled by powers that have a little more enlightenment. It's one of my greatest fears that something like this will once more get into the hands of someone who's got nothing to lose.
NorthForkFisherman 5 months ago
He was with British forces, he was a white man... Not a Jew
algood 1 year ago
No he was a white man u idiot... He did the Indian people bad... Do ur research on what a Jew really is u idiot. Fukk that dude
algood 1 year ago
Amnherst was a Jew ! A Jew invented Bio-warfare.
FinalWar1444 2 years ago