I saw the full length documentary. It was nice. The translations were a bit off at times but overall I enjoyed it. Great job ! Can't wait to see more of your work.
@evofemale thks for your comments evofemale....I'm afraid that I no longer live in Vietnam, so no more Vietnamese stuff from me...we had lots of problems with the translations...if you have time to send me some notes on where it is wrong, I would really appreciate it :) too late to change it now but I would be interested to know where it is wrong...
I did some research, and the love market is not specifically a Hmong holiday. It's more like a get-together that is celebrated in North Vietnam's Ha Giang Province by the various ethnic groups there, including the Hmong. The holiday takes place in Khau Vai Village from March 26-27, and it's a popular time for young people to go to find future marriage partners. Since I'm running out of characters, just look up Khau Vai Love Market on Google for the complete description.
I got love for all my Hmong people worldwide. We deep as fuck from Southeast to the States. Let it be known we are Hmoob. Homeland China to Vietnam, Thailand and Laos represent.
I have been in Vietnam..many times according to north side n central n southernside of Vietnam.. cuz the love market was located Laicao.....Sapa..their has many market that was closed to the border China....the love market was the mong pples was there.
It actually a FESTIVAL and please don't misunderstood it to cheating and sex.
Like Keith said, you should have done some reseach about Hmong Love Market before you said anything that embarrassed yourself.
I was born in Vietnam so "Cho Tinh" means Love Market. It was used by Hmong Vietnamese. Hmong languages borrow words from countries that they settled into. Just like nampa is not hmong word for fish sauce. It came from Thai.
lord, the english title, hmong love market, is way off. what an ignorant title. i guess he really is trying to be shocking in a desperate attempt to sell this video.
This is not the Hmong way...men or woman just don't give their significant other the freedom to go and sleep around or go to a "love market" they may not be hmong or their culture must have changed dramatically. Hmong are always strict about not sleeping around. Especially for the woman...men just don't give their woman freedom to bump into their ex's and drink with them...like that guy claimed.
Yes, of course. I'm Hmong. I don't know about now, but like I said, it is not the Hmong way. They probably got theirselves screwed up in other people's sick culture. Yeah, Hmong culture honors marriage. The culture does not allow people to have sex out of marriage or sleep around when they're married. We're not even supposed to keep anything belonging to our ex boyfriends or girlfriends. It's probably because they live in Vietnam and their culture has blended with others.
Adaneth, you may be Hmong, but on the subject of the Khau Vai Love Market, you are quite simply wrong. You are also wrong to suggest that there is anything in my film which indicates that Hmong people "sleep around" - those are your words entirely.
If you want to discuss the Khau Vai Love Market - do some research first. If you want to discuss Hmong integration into the US, I'm not the person to do it with.
The Hmong people we spoke to in Khau Vai referred to this event as a "Cho Tinh" - which translates as "Love Market". It wasn't exclusively atteneded by Hmong people but the majority were Hmong.
If you have a problem with that, then I suggest you go to Khau Vai and take it up with the people there.
For statistics, just look at the video clip - the majority of people you will see are Hmong. I was there - I saw mostly Hmong - but I didn't count them.
"Cho tinh" is Vietnamese for "Love Market" and it was used by all the Hmong we met who spoke Vietnamese to describe this event - and if its ok with them, then its ok with me. If you have a problem - I really don't care.
well, this is only 2:19 minutes of video, which may be biased. and users, including yourself, already recognize other ethnicity. more importantly, you admitted you have no hard data to substantiate your statement.
it's obvious you don't care. it shows in your translation. it shows in the title of this video. it shows in your attitude here as well.
do yourself a favor, don't make any more idiotic translations, interpretations, statements unless you know what you are really talking about.
I noticed two different ethnic groups are shown in this video. The Hmong(Miao) and the Nung(Zhuang). I noticed the anti-phonetic singing from the guy to the girl with the red cloth around the head is not Hmong but Zhuang and the guy with the black coat is also Zhuang.
Yes xeemlauj ur right - the people singing at the end are nung - the village of Khau Vai is not actually a hmong village - but most of the people who come to the love market are hmong.
wow this is very good i never believe that there would be so many hmong i am very happy the hmong american are not alone and hmong laos...i myself am happy that there is still hmong out there..I grow up knowing two groups of hmong white and green but have never seen the others..this is happy and sad at the same time that wish we can all live together. peace two all hmong peps keep the pride going be proud of your people...
As a Hmong descent myself, I find it striking and mysterious how I can understand the vietnamese hmong accent much more than I would of the chinese hmong.
"As a Hmong descent myself, I find it striking and mysterious how I can understand the vietnamese hmong accent much more than I would of the chinese hmong."
what do you mean hmong descent? are you half hmong? you only use the term if you are a hmong by blood with no traditional ties to the hmong culture.
hi saibhlob - the love market is an event which happens once a year in Ha Giang Province in Vietnam. It is a chance for young people to meet and find a partner and for already married people to see again their "first loves". It is actually a very happy occasion and a lot of fun for everybody involved - the clip comes from a 28 minute documentary, which I'm afraid is not on sale at the moment.
the term, love market, says that love is a commodity that can be purchased and sold. we are talking about 'love', not 'sex'. now, he added 'hmong' to hmong love market, and so, it is as if you can buy/sell love at this market of hmong people. do you believe this type of ignorance?
Very interesting documentary. I hope to see more of it. So terribly sad how this practice is so happening for all Hmong over the world. IT's a culture thing, I guess. Kuv Yog Hmoob thiab.
Nyablaj = Cobtsib = Vietnamese. Those Hmong in Vietnam are Hmong Vietnamese. Many of our Hmong ancestors (especially the ones who lived in laos actually came from Vietnam--first from China to Vietnam then from Vietnam to Laos). There are still approximately one million Hmong live in Vietnam, although many of them are poor because the Vietnamese Government never help them develop their daily lives--especially education for our Hmong kids.
cob tsib is not a name for vietnamese. cob tsib is a condescending term used and reserved for people of cruelty. the hmong in the laos jungle refer to the nplog cob tsib.
I saw the full length documentary. It was nice. The translations were a bit off at times but overall I enjoyed it. Great job ! Can't wait to see more of your work.
evofemale 7 months ago
@evofemale thks for your comments evofemale....I'm afraid that I no longer live in Vietnam, so no more Vietnamese stuff from me...we had lots of problems with the translations...if you have time to send me some notes on where it is wrong, I would really appreciate it :) too late to change it now but I would be interested to know where it is wrong...
keithwhu 7 months ago
WTF! I'm full Hmong, and I've never heard of LOVE MARKET!!..
beautyfyme 1 year ago
@beautyfyme
I did some research, and the love market is not specifically a Hmong holiday. It's more like a get-together that is celebrated in North Vietnam's Ha Giang Province by the various ethnic groups there, including the Hmong. The holiday takes place in Khau Vai Village from March 26-27, and it's a popular time for young people to go to find future marriage partners. Since I'm running out of characters, just look up Khau Vai Love Market on Google for the complete description.
alladinmoua 9 months ago
what i just realize from watching this clip is that their dialect sounds alot closer to hmong chinese....
0susanthao0 1 year ago
if this happen at US it will surely become breeding ritual for them..
pepperc0n 1 year ago
I got love for all my Hmong people worldwide. We deep as fuck from Southeast to the States. Let it be known we are Hmoob. Homeland China to Vietnam, Thailand and Laos represent.
gkraz 2 years ago
where can i see the full length documentary?
bprm4rnt 2 years ago
What a beautiful culture. purest heart of the people.
sonnyloehr1969 2 years ago
Very interesting I'm excited about this video ^_^
BlOoDyFaNgTuBer 2 years ago
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BlackHmong85 2 years ago
I have been in Vietnam..many times according to north side n central n southernside of Vietnam.. cuz the love market was located Laicao.....Sapa..their has many market that was closed to the border China....the love market was the mong pples was there.
fumanchu5000 2 years ago
jakesterzzzzz = isssuuueeessss!
I have seen this film and it's much better than Slumdog Billionaire.
vagabondmw 3 years ago
Cheers dude - does that mean its 1000 times better than "Slumdog Millionaire"?
keithwhu 3 years ago
It actually a FESTIVAL and please don't misunderstood it to cheating and sex.
Like Keith said, you should have done some reseach about Hmong Love Market before you said anything that embarrassed yourself.
I was born in Vietnam so "Cho Tinh" means Love Market. It was used by Hmong Vietnamese. Hmong languages borrow words from countries that they settled into. Just like nampa is not hmong word for fish sauce. It came from Thai.
*** KEITH >>> Thanks :) and KEEP IT UP!!!! ***
azngurl521 3 years ago 8
azngurl521 thanks for clearing up! are you full hmong or half?
BlackHmong85 2 years ago
Hi Jackester, May I ask where do you live in the US? What do you understand about Khau Vai love market? My mom is Hmong Vietnam and she's from there.
azngurl521 3 years ago 2
keithwhu:
How do I get this video? Great work. Very interesting.
bignatz85 3 years ago
thks - i will post the whole film on the net when I have a chance to make a few changes to it.
keithwhu 3 years ago
Some of the word-for-word translations are way off...
tenshi69 3 years ago
lord, the english title, hmong love market, is way off. what an ignorant title. i guess he really is trying to be shocking in a desperate attempt to sell this video.
jakesterzzzzz 3 years ago
This is not the Hmong way...men or woman just don't give their significant other the freedom to go and sleep around or go to a "love market" they may not be hmong or their culture must have changed dramatically. Hmong are always strict about not sleeping around. Especially for the woman...men just don't give their woman freedom to bump into their ex's and drink with them...like that guy claimed.
adaneth 3 years ago
Are you sure? Have you been to Khau Vai? Have you tried a simple google search for "Khau Vai Love Market"?
keithwhu 3 years ago
Yes, of course. I'm Hmong. I don't know about now, but like I said, it is not the Hmong way. They probably got theirselves screwed up in other people's sick culture. Yeah, Hmong culture honors marriage. The culture does not allow people to have sex out of marriage or sleep around when they're married. We're not even supposed to keep anything belonging to our ex boyfriends or girlfriends. It's probably because they live in Vietnam and their culture has blended with others.
adaneth 3 years ago
Adaneth, you may be Hmong, but on the subject of the Khau Vai Love Market, you are quite simply wrong. You are also wrong to suggest that there is anything in my film which indicates that Hmong people "sleep around" - those are your words entirely.
If you want to discuss the Khau Vai Love Market - do some research first. If you want to discuss Hmong integration into the US, I'm not the person to do it with.
keithwhu 3 years ago
Okay fine..."meets up with their exes...to drink" there...we don't do that either! blah...!That's why I'm saying they've got their cultures blended.
adaneth 3 years ago
well, the title of your youtube video seems to suggest something ridiculous. you are ignorant.
jakesterzzzzz 3 years ago
The Hmong people we spoke to in Khau Vai referred to this event as a "Cho Tinh" - which translates as "Love Market". It wasn't exclusively atteneded by Hmong people but the majority were Hmong.
If you have a problem with that, then I suggest you go to Khau Vai and take it up with the people there.
YooskTV 3 years ago
'the majority were hmong'.. where's your statistics?
'cho tinh' is not hmong language. is this the literal or figurative translation? what's the hmong translation?
take it up with you because you're posting misleading and ignorant views.
jakesterzzzzz 3 years ago
For statistics, just look at the video clip - the majority of people you will see are Hmong. I was there - I saw mostly Hmong - but I didn't count them.
"Cho tinh" is Vietnamese for "Love Market" and it was used by all the Hmong we met who spoke Vietnamese to describe this event - and if its ok with them, then its ok with me. If you have a problem - I really don't care.
keithwhu 3 years ago
well, this is only 2:19 minutes of video, which may be biased. and users, including yourself, already recognize other ethnicity. more importantly, you admitted you have no hard data to substantiate your statement.
it's obvious you don't care. it shows in your translation. it shows in the title of this video. it shows in your attitude here as well.
do yourself a favor, don't make any more idiotic translations, interpretations, statements unless you know what you are really talking about.
jakesterzzzzz 3 years ago
What I don't care about is people like yourself who don't know what they are talking about and can only criticise the work of others.
Do yourself a favour and remove my video from your "favourites" list and don't bother watching anything else I make.
keithwhu 3 years ago
Hmong divorce was really uncommon before we came to the United States. And then when we came here, divorce rates skyrocked.
adaneth 3 years ago
keith, where can i see the whole documentary? Or a website?
jthao303 3 years ago
I hope to put the whole doc on the web soon - I'll post a link here when its done.
keithwhu 3 years ago
I noticed two different ethnic groups are shown in this video. The Hmong(Miao) and the Nung(Zhuang). I noticed the anti-phonetic singing from the guy to the girl with the red cloth around the head is not Hmong but Zhuang and the guy with the black coat is also Zhuang.
xeemlauj 4 years ago
Yes xeemlauj ur right - the people singing at the end are nung - the village of Khau Vai is not actually a hmong village - but most of the people who come to the love market are hmong.
keithwhu 4 years ago
but im very happy for sharing...seeing hmong people happy is a very good thing =D
kldvang 4 years ago
these people let them slef to became laos/vietnam peoples....
the ones in the mountain are the hmong people own did not want to become laos/vietnam ...
kldvang 4 years ago
wow this is very good i never believe that there would be so many hmong i am very happy the hmong american are not alone and hmong laos...i myself am happy that there is still hmong out there..I grow up knowing two groups of hmong white and green but have never seen the others..this is happy and sad at the same time that wish we can all live together. peace two all hmong peps keep the pride going be proud of your people...
hmongines 4 years ago
i would really love to see the hole thing...
lovesdennis 4 years ago
As a Hmong descent myself, I find it striking and mysterious how I can understand the vietnamese hmong accent much more than I would of the chinese hmong.
lifeyang1 4 years ago
oh yeah... these people have a vietnamese accent (mixed with chinese).
joejoejoehahaha 4 years ago
"As a Hmong descent myself, I find it striking and mysterious how I can understand the vietnamese hmong accent much more than I would of the chinese hmong."
what do you mean hmong descent? are you half hmong? you only use the term if you are a hmong by blood with no traditional ties to the hmong culture.
gumonmyshu 3 years ago
kool hmonmg in Vietnam speak good hmong...better than the chinese hmong
SpiritB13 4 years ago
very touching...i'm hmong too.you should post up some more.thanks!
leekong76 4 years ago
Keithwhu, thank you for sharing this video. I would like to know more about hmong vietnam.
mightvg 4 years ago
Keithwhu, that was very enlightening - I never knew this. Thank you for sharing.
1000Cranes 4 years ago
1000Cranes Happy to share and hope you liked it.
keithwhu 4 years ago
don't like back ground noise. where can i get this vidoe?
mightvg 4 years ago
what do you mean by "background noise" ?
keithwhu 4 years ago
i like the folk singing in the background. =D
mkayly 4 years ago
keith, my question is: what is hmob love market? please tell me more. I want to know. is this a full lenght movie? wanna buy it too. very sad.
thanks.
saibhlob 4 years ago
hi saibhlob - the love market is an event which happens once a year in Ha Giang Province in Vietnam. It is a chance for young people to meet and find a partner and for already married people to see again their "first loves". It is actually a very happy occasion and a lot of fun for everybody involved - the clip comes from a 28 minute documentary, which I'm afraid is not on sale at the moment.
keithwhu 4 years ago
the term, love market, says that love is a commodity that can be purchased and sold. we are talking about 'love', not 'sex'. now, he added 'hmong' to hmong love market, and so, it is as if you can buy/sell love at this market of hmong people. do you believe this type of ignorance?
jakesterzzzzz 3 years ago
Very interesting documentary. I hope to see more of it. So terribly sad how this practice is so happening for all Hmong over the world. IT's a culture thing, I guess. Kuv Yog Hmoob thiab.
miaoyaht 4 years ago
Kool man. I didn't know we still have hmong peeps in vietnam. Are those the NYAB LAJ that old folks be talking about?
TWIST704 4 years ago
Yep, there are many Hmong here in Vietnam - I'm not Hmong tho and have no idea what Nyab Laj are?
keithwhu 4 years ago
Nyablaj = Cobtsib = Vietnamese. Those Hmong in Vietnam are Hmong Vietnamese. Many of our Hmong ancestors (especially the ones who lived in laos actually came from Vietnam--first from China to Vietnam then from Vietnam to Laos). There are still approximately one million Hmong live in Vietnam, although many of them are poor because the Vietnamese Government never help them develop their daily lives--especially education for our Hmong kids.
beezolor 4 years ago
@beezolor You are Laos Hmong,you cant know,what is happening with Vietnam Hmong,They have the same name as you have only.
50poiuyt 1 year ago
Nyab Laj is another name for Vietnam or Vietnamese. That is how Hmong call Vietnam or Vietnamese. Cob Tsib also another name.
kojpuasncokuv 4 years ago
cob tsib is not a name for vietnamese. cob tsib is a condescending term used and reserved for people of cruelty. the hmong in the laos jungle refer to the nplog cob tsib.
jakesterzzzzz 3 years ago
nice,can i watch the rest of the documentary too : D
raylovenara 5 years ago
... some of your translations are wrong. But overall, it's a seem very interesting.
Sohowho 5 years ago
i dont understand wat they singing at all
bb209 5 years ago
very beautiful.... i love it... i want to see the rest... please!!!
xeemlauj 5 years ago
nice, i want to see the rest...
herstyle02 5 years ago
wow, powerful... how can i see the rest of this documentary...
DaiVais 5 years ago