On the issue of compared "power" of the 060 to a Pentium I one must take in consideration the CISC architecture of the 680x0 series, which was groundbreaking at the time and paved the way for the ARM family. Coding assembler on these 680x0 cpus is a real treat compared to the x86 series ... which is a downright nightmare :)
Agnus is responsible for all DMA timing also for external video synchronization - Denise is more like video data serializer, collision detection, other video related logic. Gary is simple glue logic - nothing fancy, similar is Gayle on A600.
ECS introduce flexible video timing ie different video modes than only PAL/NTSC.
512KB "FAST" ram is so called Slow Fast ram due of this that it is connected to CPU by the same bus as CHIP ram ie CPU is limited with access (limited amount of cycles for CPU)
Yeah Amiga porn! Great information on the OCS, ECS and AGA. The Amiga - still amazing systems even today. Say did you ever tried that emplane software allowing you to run MacOS on the Amiga?
@markvergeer Empalant... no, but I did run a very similar program that came out slightly later called Shapeshifter. On my 060 Amiga it could run 68k Mac software faster than any 68k Mac Apple ever made... which was nice :D
@SteveBenway I'd like to add that ShapeShifter was really good but Fusion was amazing too and especially if you used just the chipset. It used HAM-8 mode when you used MacOS with 15-bit modes and 8-bit modes was really fast! A lot faster than 8 bit modes was in AOS itself strangely enough. I was amazed by that emulator back then, they where the kings of emulators. Same guys that did Emplant AFAIK.
You should get an old 486 low profile heat sink and put in on the 060. I've seen them only a few mm's high and shouldn't have any problem clearing the case.
@christo930 I know you maybe couldn't see, coz the light wasn't great, but there is no space between the CPU and case to fit a heat sink. But after 15 years without a heat sink, I think it's safe to say it's not going to overheat.
I was just wondering, the concept of putting a 'A1200 in a tower', did you get an A1200 motherboard, rip it out of the machine and basically shove it into a tower giving it the space for worthwhile upgrades or did you just buy a A1200 tower pre-made and just add gubbins of stuff to it making it a mega 1200?
This element of the AMiga has always confused me, but intrigued me to the max.
A 1200 motherboard won't fit in an unmodded PC case, but some companies sold premodded or bespoke cases made spedifically for the job. This case was made for the job. So I started with a standard 1200, ripped out the mobo, drives etc, put them into a case made for the job, and then added all the extra gubbins.
There were no standard 1200 towers... they were all single unit desktop machines.
@SteveBenway Ah right just as i thought, lovely machine you have though, though i bet with all the added stuff (especially the 68060 processor) that it would be somewhat unstable at times for more demanding tasks like using a 3d graphics package?
@madcapoperator It's unstable in terms of running some software that wasn't designed for it... usually older games.That'll often crash.
In terms of the actual hardware itself... when it's running something well written, which most 3D software is, it's rock solid. I frequently left it rendering ray traced images in Imagine 3D for days on end without a hitch.
Saying that, it does need going over after rebuilds, coz any boards not fitted quite right screw it all up.
@SteveBenway Cool stuff, but then again the A1200 (or mine at least) has trouble playing older games like Lotus 2 and Body Blows (though i think cos thats got a dodgy disk, got it for free though with my ebay bid and didnt expect it in the first place so cant really complain) so it's not like its really the fault of your tower in particular.
@atari26003 I'm running OS 3.1. OS4 is largely for PPC based Amigas like the Amiga One, if I'm not mistaken.
For creating music... depends how you want to do it. If you want to use midi, then pretty much any will do, provided you have a midi adaptor. If you want to use a tracker like Octamed and just 4 tracks, then a 1200 would do the job.
If you want to use multiple tracks on Octamed Sound Studio, then something fast. 4000/040 or accelerated 1200.
Great AMIGA times back then... I´m also a Fan of this fantastic computer. Have lots of MP3 soundtracks from the AMIGA that I listen to quite often. Great to see the A500 motherboard. Designers put all their love on this machine. My A500 still works since 1987... So does the 1084S original monitor that came with it... Those were the days, dear Steve. Regards from Spain.
Super video steve job job in explaining the chip sets. I wish Commodore had lived long enough for us to see the AAA chip set, as far as I am aware there are only 2 prototypes
@Rockythefishman Yes, I was longing to see AAA, back in the day. Every time Amiga Format or CU Amiga came out, I'd be reading the progress reports eagerly.
Beautiful, this video had everything i love: You, amigas, the gubbins of amigas, your mega 1200 tower and an F1 game demo that looks so unfinished its sexy. AWESOME!
Great topic. I can only recall differences between OCS and ECS in the demo scene. Some of the demo's made in the late 80's would lock up on the latter ECS chipset.
@RomeoKGT Yeah, demos are the most critical of the hardware they're run on, coz they bypass the OS altogether and hit the hardware directly. If the hardware is even slightly different from what they were designed on, they don't work.
This is an excellent video,although you did completely lose me lol.
Which amiga would you recommend? i find it all pretty confusing but i would like an amiga someday.I have a cd32 at the moment with a cd full of amiga games which im working my way through
@amurphy245 I'd recommend the 1200. It will play about 90% of games, and with the double mouse boot options will play a lot of older ones (especially when using relockick too), while earlier models won't play any AGA games at all.
I should probably do a video explaining how that works :)
As usual, excellent video Steve. Even though I know the differences in all the designs, I just still love hearing about them (always rated the 'migs way above any system i've owned - but I guess that is nostalgia for you!) and especially when it is from somebody exceptionally knowledgeable - I would place a guess that there aren't many people could produce such information without a script in front of them
That was very generous of the dude to donate you the 4000 - in fact, amazingly generous
I feel so stupid, in fact Im ashamed to ever comment about the Amiga again on any video ever. back in the day I loved the amiga, i knew its hardware like the back of my hand. I programmed the amiga in assembly. I had a book shelf full of amiga books and the 68000cpu. I had an external scsi harddrive for the A500. So why am I ashamed you ask? well for all those years to now I called it aNgus (male) when the chip is aGnus (female). OMG boy do I feel silly now. :(((((((((((((
@68000cpu You are one of many.... including me. I only realised a couple of years ago when I heard someone say it and I was like "That's not right.... let me go and check. .... Oh crap!"
I think it's just that Angus is a more common name in Britain than Aguns... you don't hear that name very often... if ever.
Hey Steve, Great video! The memories are flooding back.
I've got a few machines still which I really ought to dig out someday as they certainly deserve some love after what must be about 10 years in storage.
Apart from the C64 nothing comes close to the affection I have for the Amiga. After the A1000 I upgraded to an A1500 followed by an A500+ and an A1200. last Amiga used was an A4000 10 years ago.. Getting all nostalgic now.. ;)
@hobekastoo I don't think I've ever seen a 1000 in the flesh. Not even sure if they sold them over here actually. First one I ever saw was a 500 in 1989. It blew me away and I knew I had to have one. Since then I've had a 600, 3 1200s, a 500 and a 4000.
@SteveBenway I wish Commodore had kept the A1000 design as I think it was such a nice bit of kit and looked much better on the desk than the A1500/2000 ever did. Do you remember the A500 drive add on, the A590 I think it was called? Something like 20Mb storage which was huge back then for an Amiga.
I know how to use them, and how to stick extra bits in them, sort out awkward software and generally make them work... but that's about it. For everything else... there's Masterca..er... Wikipedia :)
nice video as normal 9 / 10, but...you should have gone into depth about the copper. its able to do much more that just pretty colour rainbow effects. IMO the copper is what gave the amiga power. It allowed the hw registers to re-programmed at the start of each raster so sprites that had already be used above the tv beam could be re-proged to appear again below, many demos used this to display 100s of sprites at once. the screen mode could be changed at any raster i.e. status panels etc.
This was a fantastic video! I've never used an Amiga firsthand, only playing games through emulation. Any plans to make a video covering the OS? I'd love to learn more about that.
In some of your vids, you mentioned compatibility issues with games across the different Amiga models. Is there one configuration that you'd recommend for the most highest compatibility?
@goldenretrogames There's no machine what will play absolutely everything, as some of the very earliest games are just so awkward that they refuse to work on anything but a 500. These are in the minority though.
My recommendation would be a 1200 with an accelerator card that can be disabled, and a copy of a program called Relokick.
To play a really awkward game, boot holding down both mouse bottons, disable caches and run OCS gfx. Then reboot into relokick, and boot the game from there.
Superb. I was hoping to see a video on this subject someday and here it is! Actually owning all those machines you're the ideal candidate to show all this, much better than just still photos. And now I have a video to point others to when they ask me these questions!
I'm really pleased, not to mention relieved, at how well it's being received. I watched it after editing and just thought "jeez... that's gonna bore the crap out of some people"... lol.
Yes! Finally! Thanks a lot Steve! Now I know what the hell you're talking about when you say the different chipsets. Great work as usual. I wonder why they named a lot of the chips after women.
@ArcadeMameMachine I don't have a 600, and yeah, I'll get one sooner or later... though probably later. I'd love to get my hands on a 3000 one day too, or even a 3000 tower if I'm *really* lucky.
10:34 I believe the cards in the Zorro 3 port(s) reached past the slots on the left of the image, and connected only to the one slot on the right. From the outside of the case, it reaches to the far port, skipping over the close one(s). 10:52 is slightly concerning. A standard BIOS button cell is 3VDC, and those two batteries are giving the right voltage...just, clock batteries are generally rechargeable, I'd be afraid to put non-rechargeables in a charging situation.
@silntdoogood I'm not too worried about the battery thing. It was done by a guy who knows a lot more about these things than I do, and he had it running for years.
Thanks for the info on the Zorro slots. I just looked at them and thought "Okay, I know how to plug stuff into them, but that's all I know"... lol :)
Nice video, very informative for those who are new or know little about the Commodore Amiga. This is a truly classic computer system. My next project next year will be to build an Amiga 1200 tower but I need to say up the funds as that will be one expensive project.
@DLiberator78 I think saving up will be essential. Anything above bog standard kit sells for pretty daft money these days. Saying that, a PC tower can be adapted easily enough, and hard drives/CD ROMs etc are cheap too. It's just accelerators and other dedicated Amiga hardware that costs.
@SteveBenway Give me a few ideas and I'll have a hunt around! I could maybe see about coming up to yours one weekend so we could do a direct comparison. Otherwise, I'd just send you video footage of it and you can edit it into yours.
I like how they printed the names of the chips on the board on the 500. Amiga rules. For anyone who is confused, most of the popular games are more or less standard, it says on the box 500 or 1200.
Hey Steve!nice video mate,it is the first time i seen open amiga mate!!heehe nice work mate!!by the way you have a cute cat!i hope he/she is fine and well!!my regards to you and family mate!!hope all is well!!cheers!
@davidhass3lh0ff Thanks. I was worried it was gonna be too dull for anyone not specifically interested in chips and stuff, but it seems to have gone down well :)
Cheers for that Steve. So the top end a4000 is equal to a 75mhz Pentium, I remember using them at college to surf the web, they weren't amazing machines, I reacon for the amiga can do tons more at the similar spec.
@atombat The top 4000 is comparable to a 486. They never made an Amiga with an 060 as standard, so for Pentium type processing power, you need an accelerator card, be it for 4000 or 1200.
There are faster Amigas, and faster accelerator cards, which use PPC chips, like those used in the Apple Mac before they went over to Intel chips... but software for these is limited, and they're all 3rd party machines.
@vmcvkycb If all you want to do is play games, the 1200 is the one to go for. All of the later ones are largely compatible with the early ones. Probably 90% compatibility, with just a few of the very earliest games not working on the later hardware.
On the issue of compared "power" of the 060 to a Pentium I one must take in consideration the CISC architecture of the 680x0 series, which was groundbreaking at the time and paved the way for the ARM family. Coding assembler on these 680x0 cpus is a real treat compared to the x86 series ... which is a downright nightmare :)
d0dge25 1 year ago
love the accent. Very british presentation.
For the matter of "cooling" the 68060, that's not necessary. I've got mine over 10 years by now too and nothing went wrong with it.
That is different for the 68040. This thing needs a cooler fan.
d0dge25 1 year ago
Agnus is responsible for all DMA timing also for external video synchronization - Denise is more like video data serializer, collision detection, other video related logic. Gary is simple glue logic - nothing fancy, similar is Gayle on A600.
ECS introduce flexible video timing ie different video modes than only PAL/NTSC.
512KB "FAST" ram is so called Slow Fast ram due of this that it is connected to CPU by the same bus as CHIP ram ie CPU is limited with access (limited amount of cycles for CPU)
pandy071 1 year ago
There were A500's with the fatter agnus released in the US but you had to do a hardware mod to be able to access the full 1mb chip ram.
Gooberslot 1 year ago
Great video dude, really interesting one this was, knew the names of the chips but didm't really know what they did, the A1200 tower is awesome.
Retrosofer 1 year ago
Yeah Amiga porn! Great information on the OCS, ECS and AGA. The Amiga - still amazing systems even today. Say did you ever tried that emplane software allowing you to run MacOS on the Amiga?
markvergeer 1 year ago
@markvergeer Empalant... no, but I did run a very similar program that came out slightly later called Shapeshifter. On my 060 Amiga it could run 68k Mac software faster than any 68k Mac Apple ever made... which was nice :D
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway Fatter angus does 2meg mate.
richardmaudsley77 11 months ago
@SteveBenway I'd like to add that ShapeShifter was really good but Fusion was amazing too and especially if you used just the chipset. It used HAM-8 mode when you used MacOS with 15-bit modes and 8-bit modes was really fast! A lot faster than 8 bit modes was in AOS itself strangely enough. I was amazed by that emulator back then, they where the kings of emulators. Same guys that did Emplant AFAIK.
hotrodswe 1 month ago
Naked computers, pure geek porn, as blogtv buggered up, I thought I would catch up with your vids :o)
RetroGamerVX 1 year ago
Dr. Benway?
retread01 1 year ago
@retread01 William Burroughs rocks :D
SteveBenway 1 year ago
You should get an old 486 low profile heat sink and put in on the 060. I've seen them only a few mm's high and shouldn't have any problem clearing the case.
Great video, very informative.
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 I know you maybe couldn't see, coz the light wasn't great, but there is no space between the CPU and case to fit a heat sink. But after 15 years without a heat sink, I think it's safe to say it's not going to overheat.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Isn't the 500 an ECS machine, with the 1000 being the ocs machine?
christo930 1 year ago
@christo930 Both the 1000 and the 500 are OCS. The 500+ is ECS.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway Thanks.
christo930 1 year ago
P.S - still got a 500+, A600HD & an A1200 HD Boxed... Love these Amigas :)
kvfive 1 year ago
@kvfive Blimey Paul, I didn't know you had all those. Nice one :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Great video Steve, very informative.
kvfive 1 year ago
I was just wondering, the concept of putting a 'A1200 in a tower', did you get an A1200 motherboard, rip it out of the machine and basically shove it into a tower giving it the space for worthwhile upgrades or did you just buy a A1200 tower pre-made and just add gubbins of stuff to it making it a mega 1200?
This element of the AMiga has always confused me, but intrigued me to the max.
madcapoperator 1 year ago
@madcapoperator A bit of both.
A 1200 motherboard won't fit in an unmodded PC case, but some companies sold premodded or bespoke cases made spedifically for the job. This case was made for the job. So I started with a standard 1200, ripped out the mobo, drives etc, put them into a case made for the job, and then added all the extra gubbins.
There were no standard 1200 towers... they were all single unit desktop machines.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway Ah right just as i thought, lovely machine you have though, though i bet with all the added stuff (especially the 68060 processor) that it would be somewhat unstable at times for more demanding tasks like using a 3d graphics package?
madcapoperator 1 year ago
@madcapoperator It's unstable in terms of running some software that wasn't designed for it... usually older games.That'll often crash.
In terms of the actual hardware itself... when it's running something well written, which most 3D software is, it's rock solid. I frequently left it rendering ray traced images in Imagine 3D for days on end without a hitch.
Saying that, it does need going over after rebuilds, coz any boards not fitted quite right screw it all up.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway Cool stuff, but then again the A1200 (or mine at least) has trouble playing older games like Lotus 2 and Body Blows (though i think cos thats got a dodgy disk, got it for free though with my ebay bid and didnt expect it in the first place so cant really complain) so it's not like its really the fault of your tower in particular.
madcapoperator 1 year ago
STEVE!!! THANK YOU SO SO MUCH FOR THIS video, i've been looking into amiga machines for a while and I really needed this !!!
i know its different in north America but I am sure they follow along the same lines.
do you run the Amiga OS 4?
What system would you recommend for creating music?
your amazing man, you make me want to make video's your great!
P.S. 6:25 kitty!
atari26003 1 year ago
@atari26003 I'm running OS 3.1. OS4 is largely for PPC based Amigas like the Amiga One, if I'm not mistaken.
For creating music... depends how you want to do it. If you want to use midi, then pretty much any will do, provided you have a midi adaptor. If you want to use a tracker like Octamed and just 4 tracks, then a 1200 would do the job.
If you want to use multiple tracks on Octamed Sound Studio, then something fast. 4000/040 or accelerated 1200.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway Thanks for the reply Steve :)
Alright yea, it would be just a midi track !!
Time to get looking online for an Amiga needing a good home
atari26003 1 year ago
Great AMIGA times back then... I´m also a Fan of this fantastic computer. Have lots of MP3 soundtracks from the AMIGA that I listen to quite often. Great to see the A500 motherboard. Designers put all their love on this machine. My A500 still works since 1987... So does the 1084S original monitor that came with it... Those were the days, dear Steve. Regards from Spain.
mortundad 1 year ago
Super video steve job job in explaining the chip sets. I wish Commodore had lived long enough for us to see the AAA chip set, as far as I am aware there are only 2 prototypes
Rockythefishman 1 year ago
@Rockythefishman Yes, I was longing to see AAA, back in the day. Every time Amiga Format or CU Amiga came out, I'd be reading the progress reports eagerly.
I was gutted when it all went tits up.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Beautiful, this video had everything i love: You, amigas, the gubbins of amigas, your mega 1200 tower and an F1 game demo that looks so unfinished its sexy. AWESOME!
madcapoperator 1 year ago
Great topic. I can only recall differences between OCS and ECS in the demo scene. Some of the demo's made in the late 80's would lock up on the latter ECS chipset.
RomeoKGT 1 year ago
@RomeoKGT Yeah, demos are the most critical of the hardware they're run on, coz they bypass the OS altogether and hit the hardware directly. If the hardware is even slightly different from what they were designed on, they don't work.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
This is an excellent video,although you did completely lose me lol.
Which amiga would you recommend? i find it all pretty confusing but i would like an amiga someday.I have a cd32 at the moment with a cd full of amiga games which im working my way through
amurphy245 1 year ago
@amurphy245 I'd recommend the 1200. It will play about 90% of games, and with the double mouse boot options will play a lot of older ones (especially when using relockick too), while earlier models won't play any AGA games at all.
I should probably do a video explaining how that works :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
As usual, excellent video Steve. Even though I know the differences in all the designs, I just still love hearing about them (always rated the 'migs way above any system i've owned - but I guess that is nostalgia for you!) and especially when it is from somebody exceptionally knowledgeable - I would place a guess that there aren't many people could produce such information without a script in front of them
That was very generous of the dude to donate you the 4000 - in fact, amazingly generous
bsg7 1 year ago
@bsg7 I didn't have a script as such, but I did need notes for the specs. You can hear the paper rustling in places... lol.
I'm still absolutely gobsmacked at the generosity of Mike for giving it to me. Having met him, I can honestly say he's a very nice guy :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
I feel so stupid, in fact Im ashamed to ever comment about the Amiga again on any video ever. back in the day I loved the amiga, i knew its hardware like the back of my hand. I programmed the amiga in assembly. I had a book shelf full of amiga books and the 68000cpu. I had an external scsi harddrive for the A500. So why am I ashamed you ask? well for all those years to now I called it aNgus (male) when the chip is aGnus (female). OMG boy do I feel silly now. :(((((((((((((
This is true :(
68000cpu 1 year ago
@68000cpu You are one of many.... including me. I only realised a couple of years ago when I heard someone say it and I was like "That's not right.... let me go and check. .... Oh crap!"
I think it's just that Angus is a more common name in Britain than Aguns... you don't hear that name very often... if ever.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
I love the amiga, too - I still have my A500 in good shape ^^
Atarix777 1 year ago
@Atarix777 Wonderful machine... and they just keep on working. Absolutely bulletproof :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
omg wow. that will be worth 1000s
coldlogic1 1 year ago
lol dual floppies! and a cd rom! give us the specs!
coldlogic1 1 year ago
what a beast, thanks for letting us see Steve, what an amazing machine, thanks for the tour.
ZXAmiga64 1 year ago
@ZXAmiga64 It was my pleasure :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Really interesting video, well done on getting so much knowledge into one video
bobmarleyluke 1 year ago
@bobmarleyluke Thanks :)
It was hard cramming it all in, and I was worried it'd just be a load of incoherent technobabble. Seems to have worked okay though :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Hey Steve, Great video! The memories are flooding back.
I've got a few machines still which I really ought to dig out someday as they certainly deserve some love after what must be about 10 years in storage.
Apart from the C64 nothing comes close to the affection I have for the Amiga. After the A1000 I upgraded to an A1500 followed by an A500+ and an A1200. last Amiga used was an A4000 10 years ago.. Getting all nostalgic now.. ;)
hobekastoo 1 year ago
@hobekastoo I don't think I've ever seen a 1000 in the flesh. Not even sure if they sold them over here actually. First one I ever saw was a 500 in 1989. It blew me away and I knew I had to have one. Since then I've had a 600, 3 1200s, a 500 and a 4000.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway I wish Commodore had kept the A1000 design as I think it was such a nice bit of kit and looked much better on the desk than the A1500/2000 ever did. Do you remember the A500 drive add on, the A590 I think it was called? Something like 20Mb storage which was huge back then for an Amiga.
hobekastoo 1 year ago
Really interesting, I always like to know what's happening under the bonnet.=D
nexus000111 1 year ago
Great video Steve, really enjoyed this one, very informative
alexgameroom 1 year ago
Nic,e vid Steve. More than I knew about the chips. You too judging by the ruffling of notes in the background. ;)
a3HeadedMonkey 1 year ago
@a3HeadedMonkey Haha... you're absolutely right :D
I know how to use them, and how to stick extra bits in them, sort out awkward software and generally make them work... but that's about it. For everything else... there's Masterca..er... Wikipedia :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
The old Gary Chip, I had to remove that B@$t@rD when I fit my £100 1.5 meg upgrade. I was only 16, talk about hot flush... Phew.
LeShark75 1 year ago
OK.. this is too smart for me ;o)
Bakemon13 1 year ago
nice video as normal 9 / 10, but...you should have gone into depth about the copper. its able to do much more that just pretty colour rainbow effects. IMO the copper is what gave the amiga power. It allowed the hw registers to re-programmed at the start of each raster so sprites that had already be used above the tv beam could be re-proged to appear again below, many demos used this to display 100s of sprites at once. the screen mode could be changed at any raster i.e. status panels etc.
68000cpu 1 year ago
@68000cpu A little more detailed than I could go into, and there was no time anyway :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
7:08 "Alice" "Who the fuck is Alice"
28steryan 1 year ago
@28steryan the bitch belongs to Fat Angus so stay away,or he will a-blitter-rate you. ha ha ha. sorry.
68000cpu 1 year ago
@68000cpu but it's Agnus... that's a woman. I guess she's just a bit butch :P
SteveBenway 1 year ago
This was a fantastic video! I've never used an Amiga firsthand, only playing games through emulation. Any plans to make a video covering the OS? I'd love to learn more about that.
In some of your vids, you mentioned compatibility issues with games across the different Amiga models. Is there one configuration that you'd recommend for the most highest compatibility?
goldenretrogames 1 year ago
@goldenretrogames There's no machine what will play absolutely everything, as some of the very earliest games are just so awkward that they refuse to work on anything but a 500. These are in the minority though.
My recommendation would be a 1200 with an accelerator card that can be disabled, and a copy of a program called Relokick.
To play a really awkward game, boot holding down both mouse bottons, disable caches and run OCS gfx. Then reboot into relokick, and boot the game from there.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Good video :)
Can you mention the most talked about and contentious chip in your next vedoe?
It is of course the Kickstart :P
Agerasia 1 year ago
@Agerasia What's contentious about the Kickstart ROM chips?
I didn't mention it here as in hardware terms, the chips are merely storage for the OS kernel.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
fantastic! love when you delve into the hardware of your systems
AlfredRusselWallace 1 year ago
all went over my head lol but i liked it. good job squeezing all that into 15 minutes xD
Zoogle88 1 year ago
@Zoogle88 Another case of missing out half of what I recorded, but I think I got the important bits in.
I realised half way through that it was all technobabble, but by then, it was too late to change tack, so I just carried on :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@xTHExSTIGx The details don't really matter, beyond "AGA is prettier and faster than OCS and ECS."
I wonder if Fat Agnus is related to Fat Gary :D
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Superb. I was hoping to see a video on this subject someday and here it is! Actually owning all those machines you're the ideal candidate to show all this, much better than just still photos. And now I have a video to point others to when they ask me these questions!
phreakindee 1 year ago
@phreakindee Thanks :)
I'm really pleased, not to mention relieved, at how well it's being received. I watched it after editing and just thought "jeez... that's gonna bore the crap out of some people"... lol.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Now that's my kind of entertainment.
alecjahn 1 year ago
@alecjahn I was my pleasure :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Yes! Finally! Thanks a lot Steve! Now I know what the hell you're talking about when you say the different chipsets. Great work as usual. I wonder why they named a lot of the chips after women.
lettersfromtheleft 1 year ago
@lettersfromtheleft I think the names may have been members of staff... or the wives of the engineers. I know I've read the story somewhere.
I pity Agnus though... it seems she ate all the pies ;)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway I heard Agnus was quite a fatty. But, with a few beers she was an easy lay, so they kept her around.
lettersfromtheleft 1 year ago
Great vid as usual, keep up the good work!!
gabbogabbo 1 year ago
@gabbogabbo Thanks :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Nice video, very helpful and filling in a few blanks, I take it you don't have a A600, you could do with one for the collection.
ArcadeMameMachine 1 year ago
@ArcadeMameMachine I don't have a 600, and yeah, I'll get one sooner or later... though probably later. I'd love to get my hands on a 3000 one day too, or even a 3000 tower if I'm *really* lucky.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway I would like to get my hands on a 3000, don't know where I would put it though.
ArcadeMameMachine 1 year ago
@ArcadeMameMachine I know just the place.... right just here... it'd be very safe ;)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway lol
ArcadeMameMachine 1 year ago
"My god, that sounds nerdy"
10:34 I believe the cards in the Zorro 3 port(s) reached past the slots on the left of the image, and connected only to the one slot on the right. From the outside of the case, it reaches to the far port, skipping over the close one(s). 10:52 is slightly concerning. A standard BIOS button cell is 3VDC, and those two batteries are giving the right voltage...just, clock batteries are generally rechargeable, I'd be afraid to put non-rechargeables in a charging situation.
silntdoogood 1 year ago
@silntdoogood I'm not too worried about the battery thing. It was done by a guy who knows a lot more about these things than I do, and he had it running for years.
Thanks for the info on the Zorro slots. I just looked at them and thought "Okay, I know how to plug stuff into them, but that's all I know"... lol :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Nice video, very informative for those who are new or know little about the Commodore Amiga. This is a truly classic computer system. My next project next year will be to build an Amiga 1200 tower but I need to say up the funds as that will be one expensive project.
DLiberator78 1 year ago
@DLiberator78 I think saving up will be essential. Anything above bog standard kit sells for pretty daft money these days. Saying that, a PC tower can be adapted easily enough, and hard drives/CD ROMs etc are cheap too. It's just accelerators and other dedicated Amiga hardware that costs.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Great video, Steve! Perhaps we should compare my 90MHz Pentium laptop with your 1200!
ImperialProductions 1 year ago
@ImperialProductions That would be interesting to try. We'd need to find a 3D game that we both have, to compare the framerates and stuff.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway Give me a few ideas and I'll have a hunt around! I could maybe see about coming up to yours one weekend so we could do a direct comparison. Otherwise, I'd just send you video footage of it and you can edit it into yours.
ImperialProductions 1 year ago
I like how they printed the names of the chips on the board on the 500. Amiga rules. For anyone who is confused, most of the popular games are more or less standard, it says on the box 500 or 1200.
PSI236 1 year ago
@PSI236 They picked some bizarre names... gives them real character :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
how did you manage to keep them so white? =)
oxxor77 1 year ago
@oxxor77 They aren't as white as I'd like, but I think mostly it's that they're never in direct sunlight.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
What a great vid...I've always wondered what the differences were. Cheers Steve
Jarmorg 1 year ago
@Jarmorg Thanks :)
At the end of the day, the old ones are good, the newer ones are better, and still play most of the games for the old ones :D
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Hey Steve!nice video mate,it is the first time i seen open amiga mate!!heehe nice work mate!!by the way you have a cute cat!i hope he/she is fine and well!!my regards to you and family mate!!hope all is well!!cheers!
kakabixlis 1 year ago
@kakabixlis I think there was more than one cat in the video. They were "helping"... lol :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
wow awesome video i like amiga vids and this one was get hereing you talk about amiga chip's and hardware in great depth good stuff
davidhass3lh0ff 1 year ago
@davidhass3lh0ff Thanks. I was worried it was gonna be too dull for anyone not specifically interested in chips and stuff, but it seems to have gone down well :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
i had an amiga 500,got rid of it cuz software is very hard to find over here for it
vipor29 1 year ago
@vipor29 It's such a shame they were never as popular over there. They were huge in the UK and parts of Europe for a while.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Cheers for that Steve. So the top end a4000 is equal to a 75mhz Pentium, I remember using them at college to surf the web, they weren't amazing machines, I reacon for the amiga can do tons more at the similar spec.
atombat 1 year ago
@atombat The top 4000 is comparable to a 486. They never made an Amiga with an 060 as standard, so for Pentium type processing power, you need an accelerator card, be it for 4000 or 1200.
There are faster Amigas, and faster accelerator cards, which use PPC chips, like those used in the Apple Mac before they went over to Intel chips... but software for these is limited, and they're all 3rd party machines.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Ive never really been into these systems, mainly because all the versions confuse me, but also i wouldnt know what the hell to get XD cool vid
vmcvkycb 1 year ago
@vmcvkycb If all you want to do is play games, the 1200 is the one to go for. All of the later ones are largely compatible with the early ones. Probably 90% compatibility, with just a few of the very earliest games not working on the later hardware.
SteveBenway 1 year ago
@SteveBenway Cool, thank you :) I'll have a look into it
vmcvkycb 1 year ago
Great video Steve, very interesting :)
thomas3120 1 year ago
@thomas3120 Thanks. I was actually worried it'd bore the pants off everyone :)
SteveBenway 1 year ago
Ah yes the special chipsets that helped the AMIGA make magic! My favorite 80's computer platform!
MaximumRD 1 year ago
@MaximumRD My fave 90s computer too :D
SteveBenway 1 year ago