he has nothing to do with Nazism. nietzsches sister manipulated with his documents after his death by making them nazi based. she also charged people who wanted to come see nietzsche sitting in his chair half dead. his mother wasn't any better.
HELP!! I'm looking for a webpage or document that explain the difference between overman and superman (Ubermensch mean ultraman, meaning 'over the man', while super man means 'very human'. It also stated That "a book for free spirits" should have been "for free minds", but because of translation problems "spirits" was chosen over "minds". Any body Can help?
Well the translation doesn´t really mean much, it can be both super and over man, but free spirit and free mind shouldn´t be confused in my opinion, since Nietzsche himself said that the term free spirit should not be associated with simply freedom of thought
Well, some could say, yes, cuz for nietszche, being human could have been stupid (o voltaire, o humaneness, o stupidity), so super human, could mean superstupid, while over human could mean above stupidity. So, not 'super or very, but over it or above it.
Not at all! For him being human is simply being sincerely who we are, without all the moral conceptions that erroneously make we feel like something more than what we really are. that´s clear in that same quotation, if we sincerely realize what we are searching the truth for, we will find it is solely for moral purpouses, therefore the stupidity. being human is the opposite of all stupidity.. he didn´t mean Voltaire to be synonym of humaneness as well...
Of course he didnt meant it for synonyms, but humanity has a lot of failures, many of which he disliked, as if religiosity was instinctive. he didnt wanted us to be more human, but superior to humans.
And that makes sense too, but i recall that the word 'spirit' was used because the first philosophers atributted our consience to our 'soul'. But of course spirits dont exist, and the word is only used in a 'figurative' sense because the word just stayed along... I'd say that 'thought' is 'cognitive', and spirit is 'affective'. It seems to me that both are part of our 'minds' (though affective thingy is very chemichal too), and as you say he said: we must keep "a cold thought and a warm heart"
Well there isn´t really any proof of the non existance of spirits to start with.. both the denial and the affirmation can only be dogmatic. plus the chemical processes associated with the affective processes is a very primitive interpretation of the phenomenon, it can be said without contradiction that the chemical reactions "behind" the affective things are not the cause of themselves. the cause of a clock isn´t its engines, but a human need, for example.
Of course that there is no proof, and non of the non existance, and with an incapability of submitting a 'spirit' to verificationism and falsificability the idea of 'spirit' doesnt qualify as a scientific theory, I repeat its not even a theory. , Nietzsche was skeptic, obviously he isnt talking trascendental realms when speaking of 'spirits', skeptics keep near science. it would be a crime to say that Nietrzsche believes in ghosts and live shadows. Like when hitler used Nietzsche as propaganda.
I never said chemistry is the cause, kid, dont get jumpy. i said that it is involved, and that emotions arent produced soley by the brain. i never said that chemichals were the intentionality objects. I mean that hormones affect emotions too. And this sint some primitive interpretation, its scientific fact...
you´re right =) I didn´t mean to sound jumpy. about the spirit thing, it doesn´t qualify as a scientific theory... but thats not because of the logical reasons involved.. science Needs to push away everything that even remotely sounds a bit religious (which is understandable when you study the history of science), in my opinion it´s more of a prejudice and a weakness than good thinking.
- A 'benight seer' as Hölderin and Van Gogh, a case for nursing care which from now on is relianted to just that people he had distrust so far." Sorry if my english isn't that great :)
It sais: "So the mother took him home, keeping him from custody and straitjacket. The psychiatric case Friedrich Nietzsche turned into notoriety. Recreated scenes of a bleak everyday life. The philosopher's insanity excites the fantasy and craving for sensation of the public. The outcome of this is a cliche of artists. According to that, genius and insanity belong inseparable together. An image which was very popular around the turn of the century, exspecially in germany . -
Hails for Friedrich Nietzsche!!! Dont feel sorry for the greatest philosopher of all times and probably the most intelligent man of all times! The world he predicted... it is happening.. now.
Religious bastards banned this man from teaching at universities when he published his ''Antichrist'' book. He was proud atheist in time when that wasn't easy to be. Respect to Nietzsche!
i saw this one in a bbc documentary some years ago ( i dont remeber the name now, its about the philosophers form the second half of the XIX century. To what i remeber this footage is shown with some photos of him from this period).
And Nietzsche receives some atention from "media" in his last days. Even in 1899 exists cameras (in the very very primitive stage).
all speculations about Nietzsche's disease is futile; the guy was sick for sure; (syphilys? masturbation? contracted?...) who can tell for sure? But i think, because of his great influence on many many thinkers enven today, many will try to show Nietzsche in a nice fashion, especially his supporters in europe; The thesis of masturbation was picked up by richard wagner i heard from a serious critique;
. Qualquer participação num serviço religioso é um atentado à moralidade pública. Deve-se ser mais severo com os protestantes do que com os católicos, mais severo com os protestantes liberais do que com os puritanos. Quanto mais alguém se aproxima da ciência
Artigo terceiro. O sítio execrável, em que o cristianismo chocou os seus ovos de basilisco, deve ser arrasado e, sendo lugar ímpio na Terra, deve inspirar pavor a toda a posteridade. Deverão ser criadas aí serpentes venenosa
its incredibly sad to see him like that. The 20th century completely belonged to him, and in my opinion his philosophy is easily the most relevant today. We live in a post Nietzschean world, his writing has passed into worldwide consciousness and has become so engrained into the collective psyche that even who may not have heard of Nietzsche are affected by his writing and thought.
Not bad for a bloke with 5 consecutive consonants in his name.
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SAD to see him like that??? SAD??? Are you dumb?! HE deserved it, and he said NO to morality, compassion and shit, and now you feel sorry for him??? He would slap the demon out of you if he heard you felt sorry for him. I know it's been 8 months
no he didnt. His argument was that conventional morality had an immoral origin, therefore a new morality, based in valorizing creativity, had to be developed.
a NEW morality, not NO morality.
Big difference. The death of God was a result of the scientific and industrial revolutions. To Nietzsche humanity's development had removed its reservoir of meaning, based in christianity, for life.
Paradigmatically the late 20th/early 21st century belong to him.
personally i find reading Nietzsche to be a profoundly life affirming, positive experience and cannot understand the popular conception of the angry, clad in black teenager, such as teh kid from "Little Miss Sunshine".
His own life was a wreck, but he valorized creativity, and to me encourages his readers to live. The idea of the eternal recurrence can surely only be taken as an urge to live life to its fullest.
these video's of 'nietzsche's last days' are downright scary as hell!! can you imagine what thoughts are going through his head?!! He was such a superman - his body lived for 10 years after his mind had shut down. One can't help but feel though, that Nietzsche drove himself insane - he deliberatly isolated himself to think and write and basically surpass every philosopher since plato - in my opinion, he did vanquish them all and practically vanquish philosophy itself! but look at the cost...
I must, with respect, correct you. Nietzche lost his mind due to contracting syphilis while in college while living "freely" as a college student if you know what I mean. I am a Christian, but believe it or not. He is one of my favorite philosophers.
Ah...that's what I've heard, there's too much going around about him. So it's hard to know what is real and fake about him. I like the guy, people should take notes.
He just as likely contracted it from exposure to the soldiers he was treating as an orderly in the Franco-Prussian war as from any brothel girl. Assuming that he ever actually did contract syphilis. Diagnosis was an inexact science in the days before X-rays.
No. Killing for no logico-legal reasons at all is not natural, and therefore it is against morality. Killing for self defense is bound by both civil and natural laws. Killing to keep order and peace in the society is often justified. Even killing animals for no apparent reasons at all is not natural, logical, and legal. It can be simply said that killing for the sake of killing is not good.
"is not at all natural, and therefore it is against morality"
...that is a classic is-ought fallacy. Nature, being random genetic mutations, some of which were evolutionarily beneficial and thus passed on, does cannot have any inherent ethical value. Also, lots of things that are natural in that they have a biological basis are also considered unethical, from racial prejudices to rape.
Yes, it is natural for man to die to give way to other lives, other generations, a part of balance of nature. What is wrong with man dying? But one thing I can't just believe is God (ok, gods).
One thing you can thanks his sister for is allowing someone to film him so that people 100 years later can see footage of him.
DanBlabbers 3 months ago
Damaged
bluemoonshinya 5 months ago
Nietzsche un pezcador de hombres...
GaallooRoma 6 months ago
he has nothing to do with Nazism. nietzsches sister manipulated with his documents after his death by making them nazi based. she also charged people who wanted to come see nietzsche sitting in his chair half dead. his mother wasn't any better.
AndreasFalk8 7 months ago
An experiment concerning the Master's poem "Der Freigeist" can be watched here:
watch?v=EGvzr_HBihk
OR search for
'Friedrich Nietzsche - Der Freigeist (Abe's Modern Low Remix)'
War es Zufall und/oder schönes Wetter?
Hope you like it! Hope he would like it...
NoPussyfication 11 months ago
Germany had some mighty fine minds through the times.
Philosophy for one, but then the psychology...
German paintings, expressionist cinema etc.
Gotta love Europe man.
If you've ever had an in depth conversation with a German, you will know !
ExtremeBogom 1 year ago 4
@ExtremeBogom also German music! German poets, and religious figures shit everything gemans have even Hitler LOL..
XXXXNanoXXXxxx 1 year ago
Nietzsche succumbed, did not cope. Read and watch the one who did: C. G. Jung in stead. Goethe - Nietzsche - Jung: There is the thread.
malenkov 1 year ago 4
increible como un genio termina en un hospital mental...
rafaelmiqui 1 year ago
ist das ein ausschnitt aus einer fernsehsendung? wenn ja, weiß jemand aus welcher ??
2Whatson3 2 years ago
yes we are kinda smart yet not smart enough to do as we know in life sometimes :P
NatashaWatters 2 years ago
It takes a genius to know a genius. Arent we Nietzsche readers damn smart? =P
omgtkseth 2 years ago
@omgtkseth Haha yeah! But damn weird too, huh? ;)
MrKreuz 2 years ago
man, i ust got Ecce Homo form the library, just love it!
RoyLikesKMFDM 2 years ago
HELP!! I'm looking for a webpage or document that explain the difference between overman and superman (Ubermensch mean ultraman, meaning 'over the man', while super man means 'very human'. It also stated That "a book for free spirits" should have been "for free minds", but because of translation problems "spirits" was chosen over "minds". Any body Can help?
omgtkseth 2 years ago
just different translations, the overman was mistranslated into superman ect.
LUKEJAMESBARRETT 2 years ago
Well the translation doesn´t really mean much, it can be both super and over man, but free spirit and free mind shouldn´t be confused in my opinion, since Nietzsche himself said that the term free spirit should not be associated with simply freedom of thought
ThePhilosorpheus 2 years ago
Well, some could say, yes, cuz for nietszche, being human could have been stupid (o voltaire, o humaneness, o stupidity), so super human, could mean superstupid, while over human could mean above stupidity. So, not 'super or very, but over it or above it.
omgtkseth 2 years ago
Not at all! For him being human is simply being sincerely who we are, without all the moral conceptions that erroneously make we feel like something more than what we really are. that´s clear in that same quotation, if we sincerely realize what we are searching the truth for, we will find it is solely for moral purpouses, therefore the stupidity. being human is the opposite of all stupidity.. he didn´t mean Voltaire to be synonym of humaneness as well...
ThePhilosorpheus 2 years ago
Of course he didnt meant it for synonyms, but humanity has a lot of failures, many of which he disliked, as if religiosity was instinctive. he didnt wanted us to be more human, but superior to humans.
omgtkseth 2 years ago
And that makes sense too, but i recall that the word 'spirit' was used because the first philosophers atributted our consience to our 'soul'. But of course spirits dont exist, and the word is only used in a 'figurative' sense because the word just stayed along... I'd say that 'thought' is 'cognitive', and spirit is 'affective'. It seems to me that both are part of our 'minds' (though affective thingy is very chemichal too), and as you say he said: we must keep "a cold thought and a warm heart"
omgtkseth 2 years ago
Well there isn´t really any proof of the non existance of spirits to start with.. both the denial and the affirmation can only be dogmatic. plus the chemical processes associated with the affective processes is a very primitive interpretation of the phenomenon, it can be said without contradiction that the chemical reactions "behind" the affective things are not the cause of themselves. the cause of a clock isn´t its engines, but a human need, for example.
ThePhilosorpheus 2 years ago
Of course that there is no proof, and non of the non existance, and with an incapability of submitting a 'spirit' to verificationism and falsificability the idea of 'spirit' doesnt qualify as a scientific theory, I repeat its not even a theory. , Nietzsche was skeptic, obviously he isnt talking trascendental realms when speaking of 'spirits', skeptics keep near science. it would be a crime to say that Nietrzsche believes in ghosts and live shadows. Like when hitler used Nietzsche as propaganda.
omgtkseth 2 years ago
I never said chemistry is the cause, kid, dont get jumpy. i said that it is involved, and that emotions arent produced soley by the brain. i never said that chemichals were the intentionality objects. I mean that hormones affect emotions too. And this sint some primitive interpretation, its scientific fact...
omgtkseth 2 years ago
you´re right =) I didn´t mean to sound jumpy. about the spirit thing, it doesn´t qualify as a scientific theory... but thats not because of the logical reasons involved.. science Needs to push away everything that even remotely sounds a bit religious (which is understandable when you study the history of science), in my opinion it´s more of a prejudice and a weakness than good thinking.
ThePhilosorpheus 2 years ago
acıdığımı bilse ne yapardı laaaa...yazıııkk...
esraretin 2 years ago
- A 'benight seer' as Hölderin and Van Gogh, a case for nursing care which from now on is relianted to just that people he had distrust so far." Sorry if my english isn't that great :)
lubberkin 2 years ago
Nietzsche was a genious !!! A great and fearless man !!!
olyaiian 2 years ago
What it sais in english?
kapatuub 2 years ago
It sais: "So the mother took him home, keeping him from custody and straitjacket. The psychiatric case Friedrich Nietzsche turned into notoriety. Recreated scenes of a bleak everyday life. The philosopher's insanity excites the fantasy and craving for sensation of the public. The outcome of this is a cliche of artists. According to that, genius and insanity belong inseparable together. An image which was very popular around the turn of the century, exspecially in germany . -
lubberkin 2 years ago
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lubberkin 2 years ago
Hails for Friedrich Nietzsche!!! Dont feel sorry for the greatest philosopher of all times and probably the most intelligent man of all times! The world he predicted... it is happening.. now.
ozner25 2 years ago 3
120 years ahead of his time.
kjt1981 2 years ago
Religious bastards banned this man from teaching at universities when he published his ''Antichrist'' book. He was proud atheist in time when that wasn't easy to be. Respect to Nietzsche!
EISBRECHER1982 2 years ago
Is this authentic footage of Friedrich Nietzsche? or is it from a movie?!!
KangTron 2 years ago 9
this one is authentic...but i think it's the only documentary who shows this footage not mixed with photos.
(exists others videos in you tube, but all of them shows mixed images).
waltinhokrek 2 years ago
How do we know it's authentic? Also, did cameras exist in the 1890s?
KangTron 2 years ago
i saw this one in a bbc documentary some years ago ( i dont remeber the name now, its about the philosophers form the second half of the XIX century. To what i remeber this footage is shown with some photos of him from this period).
And Nietzsche receives some atention from "media" in his last days. Even in 1899 exists cameras (in the very very primitive stage).
waltinhokrek 2 years ago
@KangTron That's real footage of him.
residentevil926 4 months ago
all speculations about Nietzsche's disease is futile; the guy was sick for sure; (syphilys? masturbation? contracted?...) who can tell for sure? But i think, because of his great influence on many many thinkers enven today, many will try to show Nietzsche in a nice fashion, especially his supporters in europe; The thesis of masturbation was picked up by richard wagner i heard from a serious critique;
kmgbr099 2 years ago
what thesis of masturbation?
kjt1981 2 years ago
Thanks
bissolis 2 years ago
. Qualquer participação num serviço religioso é um atentado à moralidade pública. Deve-se ser mais severo com os protestantes do que com os católicos, mais severo com os protestantes liberais do que com os puritanos. Quanto mais alguém se aproxima da ciência
Artigo terceiro. O sítio execrável, em que o cristianismo chocou os seus ovos de basilisco, deve ser arrasado e, sendo lugar ímpio na Terra, deve inspirar pavor a toda a posteridade. Deverão ser criadas aí serpentes venenosa
ya9azab 3 years ago
its incredibly sad to see him like that. The 20th century completely belonged to him, and in my opinion his philosophy is easily the most relevant today. We live in a post Nietzschean world, his writing has passed into worldwide consciousness and has become so engrained into the collective psyche that even who may not have heard of Nietzsche are affected by his writing and thought.
Not bad for a bloke with 5 consecutive consonants in his name.
kjt1981 3 years ago 21
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SAD to see him like that??? SAD??? Are you dumb?! HE deserved it, and he said NO to morality, compassion and shit, and now you feel sorry for him??? He would slap the demon out of you if he heard you felt sorry for him. I know it's been 8 months
shatroghistro 2 years ago
no he didnt. His argument was that conventional morality had an immoral origin, therefore a new morality, based in valorizing creativity, had to be developed.
a NEW morality, not NO morality.
Big difference. The death of God was a result of the scientific and industrial revolutions. To Nietzsche humanity's development had removed its reservoir of meaning, based in christianity, for life.
Paradigmatically the late 20th/early 21st century belong to him.
i know its been 4 minutes.
kjt1981 2 years ago 4
personally i find reading Nietzsche to be a profoundly life affirming, positive experience and cannot understand the popular conception of the angry, clad in black teenager, such as teh kid from "Little Miss Sunshine".
His own life was a wreck, but he valorized creativity, and to me encourages his readers to live. The idea of the eternal recurrence can surely only be taken as an urge to live life to its fullest.
kjt1981 2 years ago 3
"Life is a well of delight."--Friedrich Nietzsche
Doesn't seem very gloomy to me. =]
XxxNuMbxxX0301 2 years ago
How far removed I was from all this resignationism.
JackSpades64 3 years ago
Nietzche was waffler
CianEyeTube 3 years ago
these video's of 'nietzsche's last days' are downright scary as hell!! can you imagine what thoughts are going through his head?!! He was such a superman - his body lived for 10 years after his mind had shut down. One can't help but feel though, that Nietzsche drove himself insane - he deliberatly isolated himself to think and write and basically surpass every philosopher since plato - in my opinion, he did vanquish them all and practically vanquish philosophy itself! but look at the cost...
iggypot 3 years ago
I must, with respect, correct you. Nietzche lost his mind due to contracting syphilis while in college while living "freely" as a college student if you know what I mean. I am a Christian, but believe it or not. He is one of my favorite philosophers.
cboadicea 3 years ago
he never contracted syphilis, that is just speculation. there is just a possibility that he might have contracted it, but there is no proof
Metalogicc 3 years ago 2
Ah...that's what I've heard, there's too much going around about him. So it's hard to know what is real and fake about him. I like the guy, people should take notes.
cboadicea 3 years ago 2
they definatly should =)
Metalogicc 3 years ago
He just as likely contracted it from exposure to the soldiers he was treating as an orderly in the Franco-Prussian war as from any brothel girl. Assuming that he ever actually did contract syphilis. Diagnosis was an inexact science in the days before X-rays.
aspersive 3 years ago
.. then you are not Christian my friend, and will need not wash my hands of you.
jiounason 3 years ago
... Pure blood is only answer to "TRIUMPH" (PIRUZI)...
Thus Spake ZARATHUSTRA...
behrooz57 3 years ago
No. Killing for no logico-legal reasons at all is not natural, and therefore it is against morality. Killing for self defense is bound by both civil and natural laws. Killing to keep order and peace in the society is often justified. Even killing animals for no apparent reasons at all is not natural, logical, and legal. It can be simply said that killing for the sake of killing is not good.
obalajadia 3 years ago
"is not at all natural, and therefore it is against morality"
...that is a classic is-ought fallacy. Nature, being random genetic mutations, some of which were evolutionarily beneficial and thus passed on, does cannot have any inherent ethical value. Also, lots of things that are natural in that they have a biological basis are also considered unethical, from racial prejudices to rape.
MichaelDavisISTC 3 years ago
God is dead, and I am not feeling too well myself..
hvolsvellir 3 years ago
Yes, it is natural for man to die to give way to other lives, other generations, a part of balance of nature. What is wrong with man dying? But one thing I can't just believe is God (ok, gods).
obalajadia 3 years ago
If it is natural for man to die, isn't it right to kill men?
johnrcoben 3 years ago
Man verzeihe mir die Bosheit, aber wenn man noch nicht mal das von Nietzsche weiß, was weiß man dann denn noch alles nicht von ihm?
EinFremderAusElea 4 years ago
Great post!!
ferrettidff 4 years ago
dogru bilgi yoktur olsada bilemezdik bilsekte öğretemezdik...
okyanustaruzgar 4 years ago
nietzsche und laVey wahren grossartige menschen!
natürlich nur von der philosophie her. menschen sind niemals grossartig. natürlich gibt auch da immer unterschiede
666Black6Metal666 4 years ago
It looks like a German expresionist film from the twenties.
japicuca 4 years ago
Nietzsche war einfach geistes-krank.
Gott zu leugnen heißt die Liebe leugnen, heisst in die Kälte gehen...
bluuum 4 years ago
an gott zu glauben ist sich selbst zu belügen.
666Black6Metal666 4 years ago
thanks for nietzsche
malotof 4 years ago
Sehr, sehr schade.
Nietzsche ist ubermensch.
Pirateking89 4 years ago
THANK YOU
Nquietness 5 years ago
traurig, Nietzsche krank zu sehen
bkasipavicius3 5 years ago