J'ai fait un site web sur les divers crimes du soi-disant gouvernement en exile du Dalai lama à Dharamsala
Il y a cinq meurtres dont on les accuse d'opposants tibétains,commis sous la houlette du frère du Dalai lama,le criminel Gyalo Thondup,espion aussi bien de la CIA que de Pékin.Plus incroyable:la commande de meurtres qu'ils ont faits de grands leaders tibétains le Karmapa,grand lama, Dudjom,Dilgo Khyentse,ainsi que le roi du Bhoutan.Gyalo Thondup fuit le Bhoutan en catastrophe
THE DALAI LAMA IS A LIAR The Dalai Lama is accused religious persecution of Buddhist Monks (Dorje Shugden) High court appearance Dehli May 12 2008. Monks and other followers have been beaten, had their houses smashed up and have received death threats. Watch the videos and read the articles.
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Before the Chinese invasion of Tibet, there were almost no uprising against the government. They were no people who died under starvation. Under the chinese occupation of Tibet, there were death of 1.2 million Tibetan and there were countless demonstration. So, figure out!
actually, even under the rule of Dalai Lama there was slavery...it is part of tibetan buddhism. you can't even support your claim. people starv everywhere and anytime, even in america.
LMFAO, your Tibetan Gov't in Exile still lying to you?! You know where you got that 1.2 million number from? THIN AIR. Patrick French, an honest guy who spent the better part of his life working for your Free Tibet Campaign and was the DIRECTOR OF THAT CAMPAIIGN, went to Dharamsala and found out that most of the statistics you Tibetans in Exile use are LIES!
LMMMMFAO. You still believe that crap! Tibetans were living in sunshine before the evil Chinese came around! Lol, I don't blame you, since you'd rather trust your "family" and "kinsmen" in exile than the Chinese, who are STILL poor and can barely feed you because you don't WORK.
This is a scary time. Just look at the damned riots in your country and all the racism sparked by this Free Tibet conspiracy. SekyinB, fight the other injustices of your country, but don't support independence. Too much blind hate generated by this mess.
Even the DL himself does not ask for it anymore (since the CIA stopped their funding). He just wants to talk. That's fine. Independent Tibet is dreamed by selfish/brainwashed young Tibetans who don't think of the global consequences. Sorry.
omg, why do you guys have to repeat "no independence" to me. I have said I'm not with Tibetan separatists!!And I'm not fighting anything!
And i'm not arguing you with "turning into Africa" thing coz idk wat you are talking about.
The govt has been inciting "patriotism". Now it found out it had been a bit too much. It's just laughable. They have been using this incident to distract ppl's attention to other problems like inflation.
Just like the America is drawing attention to China and international issues right now to avoid talking about the subprime crisis, energy, recession, etc. Yeah, I know all about it. :)
You have every right to hate your gov't, however, now is not the time. The rest of the world right now is trying to turn Asia into another Africa. I don't want that. Think about it, without the Chinese gov't handling Tibet, it would be turned into a geopolitical vacuum. Airline flight paths go through china to tibet. Energy, tranportation, communication, infrustrature, all would be dumped on the rest of the world.
China is controlling 1/5th of the world's pop. It's doing a decent job.
Oh, not to mention where it's located. Lovely place for Al Qaeda once the Chinese stop looking after it. Seriously, once the Dalai Lama is gone (i know, scary thought, but it'll happen), those Tibetans won't be as peaceful anymore. They are too reactionary, IMO, hating modernization, hating everything. Just listen to their online rants. hate hate hate.
I can't agree with him more. I hate Chinese government, and I hope Tibetans can have true autonomy. But I don't like the way many Tibetans/Westerns have done to vilify Chinese.
Well did i say anything that sounds like pro-independence? idk why you guys have to repeat that sentence again and again even when ppl are not talking about separatism....
To your question: I hate a lot of things, including Chinese Government...that's all
When the french attack the flame, they disregard the spirit of Olympic. therefore we can see who is irrational and who is not, who is idiotic and who is not. Like the Emperor New cloth.
Being brainwashed is what most pple are.
when they become emotional they incur hatred. that is the result of argument. It always take two dogs to fight, so dont be a dog. there is no arguement.
Most people are susceptible to propaganda...in every country with no exception...so i agree with you on that...
But do you even know about what's happening in China? did you know that extremism had been DELIBERATELY incited...the so-called patriots blocked common customers from entering Carrefour, and commited vandalism inside the supermarkets...extreme languages just like those in Cultural revolution have been all over
I'm Chinese and I love my country. But never in that way.
Well in fact no one knows what happened before Mar 14, thanks to our govt...so it is not fair to look at what has been shown publicly, becoz that may only be one side of the story
and PLEASE don't repeat the "no independent" sentence, i said nth about separatism
China has a HUGE population, and it's susceptible to these kinds of mobs. It starts with a few extremists, snowballs with more moderate extremists, until it a "critical mass" and becomes a completely irrational mob. This is why democracy still has a long way to go for China, and the CCP, despite it's evils, is necessary to contain the population. Just try to be rational yourself, and hope your countrymen actually listen to your gov't when they tell you to calm the f*** down.
Senator J. Melenchon expressed a balanced view on Tibet issue. If he was French President, He will get full respect from all Chinese and their government. A lots of things will be easier to be understand and resolved peacefully. Best Regards.
I love this. This guy definitely has brains and insight. bravo.
ichigosuika 10 months ago
nice one!salute to this non-biased French senator!
bullguru 3 years ago
This French guy is smart guy ..
john24091978 3 years ago 2
I thought he is only one French to stand in the side of Chinese side.
john24091978 3 years ago
J'ai fait un site web sur les divers crimes du soi-disant gouvernement en exile du Dalai lama à Dharamsala
Il y a cinq meurtres dont on les accuse d'opposants tibétains,commis sous la houlette du frère du Dalai lama,le criminel Gyalo Thondup,espion aussi bien de la CIA que de Pékin.Plus incroyable:la commande de meurtres qu'ils ont faits de grands leaders tibétains le Karmapa,grand lama, Dudjom,Dilgo Khyentse,ainsi que le roi du Bhoutan.Gyalo Thondup fuit le Bhoutan en catastrophe
Birwapa 3 years ago
Je peux ajouter ici le contenu des articles de journaux collectés, c'est tout en anglais.
Mais le Dalai Lama mène une bande de tontons flingueurs.
Birwapa 3 years ago
putin quel con ce Mélenchon... il veut nous faire croire que la Chine n'a pas envahit le Tibet...
Et quand je vois tous ces abrutis qui l'admirent...
27071916 3 years ago
c est toi le gros con toi tu admire qui sarko bush laisse moi rire
gexx80 3 years ago 2
@27071916
Une invasion se fait sur un territoire étranger petit, le tibet faisait déjà parti de la chine en 1950
MrStaxxy 1 month ago
Let me add something:
Melenchon is the biggest minority hater in France (I am btw from a cultural minority in France). So I am actually not surprised by his position.
nigelelsass 3 years ago
BRAVO MELENCHON!
Liberté d'expression, oui! DESNFORMATION DES MEDIAS, NON!
NE NOUS BASONS PAS SUR LES PREJUGES !
VIVE LES JEUX OLYMPIQUES A BEIJING!!!
rCarr0w 3 years ago 3
Rational people with rational thoughts is rare in France today.
weissman2000 3 years ago 3
crying out to hear from those ppl ~
sayusayme8 3 years ago
You're made all the more despicable for your lies. Being a Tibetan Buddhist doesn't exclude you from being human I guess!
asw654 3 years ago
YEAH!!! well said
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Before the Chinese invasion of Tibet, there were almost no uprising against the government. They were no people who died under starvation. Under the chinese occupation of Tibet, there were death of 1.2 million Tibetan and there were countless demonstration. So, figure out!
bhoipa 3 years ago
actually, even under the rule of Dalai Lama there was slavery...it is part of tibetan buddhism. you can't even support your claim. people starv everywhere and anytime, even in america.
google2com 3 years ago 3
LMFAO, your Tibetan Gov't in Exile still lying to you?! You know where you got that 1.2 million number from? THIN AIR. Patrick French, an honest guy who spent the better part of his life working for your Free Tibet Campaign and was the DIRECTOR OF THAT CAMPAIIGN, went to Dharamsala and found out that most of the statistics you Tibetans in Exile use are LIES!
asw654 3 years ago 9
LMMMMFAO. You still believe that crap! Tibetans were living in sunshine before the evil Chinese came around! Lol, I don't blame you, since you'd rather trust your "family" and "kinsmen" in exile than the Chinese, who are STILL poor and can barely feed you because you don't WORK.
asw654 3 years ago 5
and you have confidence in the data because you crapped it out yourself or asked one the exiled monk slaveholders lol.
shiryuuclone 3 years ago 2
lol...ignorant fool get ur wording right. china didnt 'invade' tibet. it just reasserted control over its own sovereign land.
last time i checked the atlas tibet is a part of china so go figure out!
andrew3656 3 years ago
This is a scary time. Just look at the damned riots in your country and all the racism sparked by this Free Tibet conspiracy. SekyinB, fight the other injustices of your country, but don't support independence. Too much blind hate generated by this mess.
Even the DL himself does not ask for it anymore (since the CIA stopped their funding). He just wants to talk. That's fine. Independent Tibet is dreamed by selfish/brainwashed young Tibetans who don't think of the global consequences. Sorry.
asw654 3 years ago
omg, why do you guys have to repeat "no independence" to me. I have said I'm not with Tibetan separatists!!And I'm not fighting anything!
And i'm not arguing you with "turning into Africa" thing coz idk wat you are talking about.
The govt has been inciting "patriotism". Now it found out it had been a bit too much. It's just laughable. They have been using this incident to distract ppl's attention to other problems like inflation.
SekyinB 3 years ago
To choose between two Evil Communist or Slavery. I will choose a lesser Evil. In fact, all government are Evil in some sense. We look into the future.
Freedom for Tibet, will imply that Tibet will go back 20 years or 50 years back without the economic resources from Greater China.
Since it is a landlock nation, resources limited, poverty will thrive.
In fact, the worst Evil is Poverty.
proOlympic 3 years ago
Hehe, That is true.
Just like the America is drawing attention to China and international issues right now to avoid talking about the subprime crisis, energy, recession, etc. Yeah, I know all about it. :)
asw654 3 years ago
SekyinB:
You have every right to hate your gov't, however, now is not the time. The rest of the world right now is trying to turn Asia into another Africa. I don't want that. Think about it, without the Chinese gov't handling Tibet, it would be turned into a geopolitical vacuum. Airline flight paths go through china to tibet. Energy, tranportation, communication, infrustrature, all would be dumped on the rest of the world.
China is controlling 1/5th of the world's pop. It's doing a decent job.
asw654 3 years ago
Oh, not to mention where it's located. Lovely place for Al Qaeda once the Chinese stop looking after it. Seriously, once the Dalai Lama is gone (i know, scary thought, but it'll happen), those Tibetans won't be as peaceful anymore. They are too reactionary, IMO, hating modernization, hating everything. Just listen to their online rants. hate hate hate.
asw654 3 years ago
Respect!!
craZHEYan 3 years ago
Enfin un homme qui a les couilles de dire la vérité!
Les Européens soutenant le TIBET sont tous je parie des gars qui ont lu "Tintin au Tibet" et trouvent les moines bien sympatoches...
UCLouvain 3 years ago
I like him... so cool! A rational man with independent thinking and not being brainwashed:-)
sese3258 3 years ago
God bless him
earthelementair 3 years ago
I can't agree with him more. I hate Chinese government, and I hope Tibetans can have true autonomy. But I don't like the way many Tibetans/Westerns have done to vilify Chinese.
SekyinB 3 years ago
tibet is part of china...you can hate the gov but is that the only gov that you hate?
4485lolo 3 years ago
Well did i say anything that sounds like pro-independence? idk why you guys have to repeat that sentence again and again even when ppl are not talking about separatism....
To your question: I hate a lot of things, including Chinese Government...that's all
SekyinB 3 years ago
im with you
534nw00d 3 years ago
thanx
4485lolo 3 years ago
When the french attack the flame, they disregard the spirit of Olympic. therefore we can see who is irrational and who is not, who is idiotic and who is not. Like the Emperor New cloth.
Being brainwashed is what most pple are.
when they become emotional they incur hatred. that is the result of argument. It always take two dogs to fight, so dont be a dog. there is no arguement.
proOlympic 3 years ago
Most people are susceptible to propaganda...in every country with no exception...so i agree with you on that...
But do you even know about what's happening in China? did you know that extremism had been DELIBERATELY incited...the so-called patriots blocked common customers from entering Carrefour, and commited vandalism inside the supermarkets...extreme languages just like those in Cultural revolution have been all over
I'm Chinese and I love my country. But never in that way.
SekyinB 3 years ago
I am Chinese, I love my race as a Chinese. the one who start the violence is wrong. choosing the path of extreme action is wrong.
Why shouldnt china let the pple choose. Well, it is a communist country. that is the reason why.
But Should Tibet be independent. No. If it happened, we should see bigger implication, taiwan, xinjiang, mongolia, ...
Should China continue. I dont have an answer.
But we see that China is improving very fast over the years.
We see a sleeping dragon awaken.
proOlympic 3 years ago
Well in fact no one knows what happened before Mar 14, thanks to our govt...so it is not fair to look at what has been shown publicly, becoz that may only be one side of the story
and PLEASE don't repeat the "no independent" sentence, i said nth about separatism
SekyinB 3 years ago
SekyinB,
China has a HUGE population, and it's susceptible to these kinds of mobs. It starts with a few extremists, snowballs with more moderate extremists, until it a "critical mass" and becomes a completely irrational mob. This is why democracy still has a long way to go for China, and the CCP, despite it's evils, is necessary to contain the population. Just try to be rational yourself, and hope your countrymen actually listen to your gov't when they tell you to calm the f*** down.
asw654 3 years ago
We don't want another Africa, and we certainly don't want World War 3.
asw654 3 years ago
DALAI LAMA, GET OVER YOUR PRIDE AND JUST TAKE THE OFFER. Wtf, asking for Sichuan and Yunan as well as Tibet. Greedy SOB. GOD. Try to negotiate!!
asw654 3 years ago
Finally someone that tells the truth!
FastlikeHurricane 3 years ago
What a wise French man. You have my sincerest respect.
qwukcn 3 years ago
Senator J. Melenchon expressed a balanced view on Tibet issue. If he was French President, He will get full respect from all Chinese and their government. A lots of things will be easier to be understand and resolved peacefully. Best Regards.
XDDEM 3 years ago
That's called a wise man talking!
Respect!
bamii 3 years ago
Senator J. Melenchon is a good honest man. Thanks to him!
classicleon 3 years ago 2
hes got a real good point. and unbiased(dont think he's against tibet, he is not, but he is definitely clear enough to not bash china for everything)
herenaycomes 3 years ago 2
Is true what is Sir saying is true. I truely respect to him. He is a good man
ASILAMSARA 3 years ago 2
A smart French.
fyan007 3 years ago 2
He has told the truth. He is great ! Respect him.
c214c214 3 years ago 2
he is so special and smart
txyzgl 3 years ago 3
clear, fair, and well-said,
respect Jean, he is awesome
jeimlm 3 years ago 2