CR500 AF Ice Tire Test 2012

[TheSilkyjohnson14]

Hey groutaone where did u git ur youtube name from..........and please i wanna see alot more cr 500 vid please

[groutaone]

@TheSilkyjohnson14 Its just a utube name, doesnt refer to me, instead of using a name like treebing84 or something like that, not sure how many of my 500 vids you have seen but I think I have over 30 of them, check my playlist

[rockinthegums8]

i love polished aluminum frames! sick bike man

[j4b2c0]

Drop the teeth in the rear sprocket so you don't have to short shift so much and so first gear isn't obsolete. I would kill for that bike. Got my firstvcr500 when I was 15 . You will never be happy on anything else ever again.

[groutaone]

@j4b2c0 Just curious what gearing do you run on yours?

[broskie1234]

@groutaone alright thats what i was kinda of figuring but thank you for helping me keep doing what your doing. ill upload videos of my build when i get the money together

[ThePineconewarrior]

Hey Groutaone, I bought a 3 wheeler a few days ago and the front tire has ice screws in it, but they're all worn down and doesn't really help. and I'd like to be able to ride on the road without worrying about working them into the tire. So I'm wondering is it ok to take them out of the tire?

[groutaone]

@ThePineconewarrior To take them out wont be a problem, no tire damage

[ThePineconewarrior]

@groutaone Alright, thanks!

[broskie1234]

@groutaone i watched all of your vids on when you were building this bike and i also subbed to your channel but do you think it would have been easier to use a 450r frame other than the 250 cause i keep watchin these videos over and over again and its really settling in that im gonna do the same conversion myself cause it looks like way to much fun lol

[groutaone]

@broskie1234 Thanks a bunch for watching, the 450 is about the same amount of work as a CR250, just a few things different here and there

[mulletmasher]

man that bike is sick, awesome video

[Walshy044]

Cool video nice to see a few new ones too!

[Domenoful]

this bike its monster

[81z50]

why don't you buy real spiketires?

[revvhard]

nice vid brotha. You have balls of steel. If i would try this on my kx500 i probably would die.

[runiggarunrunrun]

@revvhard

That's why girls don't do it !

[groutaone]

@revvhard Thanks bud, just so you know I've also always been a fan of team green, nice bike you have there

[revvhard]

@groutaone Thanks! When I was in the rebuilding stage and needed a little motivation, i'd check out your video where you're "tending the land" spraying dirt and weeds all over the place. My KX is no where NEAR as clean as your CR... but thats why its still fun. Doesnt matter, we're both having a blast on big 2 strokes! take care

[number1hondapro]

what length screws did u buy

[groutaone]

@number1hondapro I used 5/8 in rear and 3/8 in front

[Powarlator]

Looks EPIC! Where do you buy them?

I'd say your cool at like Vehicle Technical

[groutaone]

@Powarlator Thanks, these are Kold Kutter ice screws and I got them on Ebay

[MrJake81283]

does honda still make this bike???

[groutaone]

@MrJake81283 No not any more, 2001 was the last year

[Brawling2010]

hey, love your vids. btw you put the ice tire on backwards. your supposed to put it on backwards for riding on the ice:)

[groutaone]

@Brawling2010 I gave that some thought, I saw a few pictures of these tires mounted backwards and decided to do it this way to create a forward facing V shape with the screw pattern. Ask the guys that know how to pick a sled track, thats how they do it

[TheDieselStop]

Looks like fun.

[runiggarunrunrun]

It's a shame that ice wasn't thinner, this video wouldve been much more exciting.

By the way if you have enough time to film the differences between fourth and fifth gear tracks, you have enough time to tighten all the screws so that a flat edge s facing forwards.

[revvhard]

@runiggarunrunrun douche.

[MonsterSk8er00]

dude it would suck sooo much if you ate shit .

[guily6669]

DAMN, that thing gotta really have a hell of a grip!

[bobney93]

wow, that must have took some time and patience, nice vid man

[groutaone]

@bobney93 Thanks, it was a real nice day, no rushing just a bit of fun

[boribiker]

wow unbelived , you are a iron rider

[groutaone]

@boribiker Thanks bud

[hegeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

Kickass ice tire, endless traction! Like sakke833 said we use spike tyres here in finland. I thinks that lots easier.

Here is cr500 from finland watch it pretty kick ass too.

/watch?v=L3iP5E2BwFA

[FrankaDith]

Compared to you ,i'm homeless ,naked,two feet tall and 5 years old .

[groutaone]

@FrankaDith Come on now, we are the same I just have better traction on ice ha ha

[FrankaDith]

@groutaone Also better traction in life ,i suck lol

[sakke833]

@groutaone in finland we use spike tires on ice. you shoud give them a try. nice bike.

[klstrucker930419]

3:26 No spin on ice=not enough power :D:D:D

[prostreetray]

Sir!-Your so cool. Im on the left Coast in Good Ol USA-No ice-No snow riding were im from.

Your 500 reminds me of a Husky 390 that I sported 20+ yrs ago.All metal-two shocker boat anchor --would pull the front off any gear! any speed.Now Im Old- my YZ is like riding my couch LOL.Keep im coming

[groutaone]

@prostreetray Sounds like a bit of a beast that 390 you had, what year bike was that?

[TheTuntso]

you better watch out that your cr500 idle wont brake the ice ;)

[groutaone]

@TheTuntso I can always drag it out of the water in spring I guess ha ha

[ChrisBeBallin]

Damn bro. That bike is a fucking beast! Always wanted a CR 500 !

[85ccmaster]

Whats that tattoo on your hand? Is it from a war?

[groutaone]

@85ccmaster Lol, thats ink reminding me how many screws are in the tire

[85ccmaster]

@groutaone lol oh ok



[TheTuntso]

i noticed i have the exact same gearing as you have on your bike

[TranceFur]

I love the polished frame.

[gurkensalat0815]

How is the traction with this tire on a yard or in snow?

[groutaone]

@gurkensalat0815 On dirt it would be awesome but I dont want to dull the screws so I keep it just for ice, on snow if it cant touch the ground its nothing special

[twostrokeornill1]

Awesome details, Cheers !

[enginemaster8]

wow! it gets better traction on ice than it does on dirt! haha i wish there was some snow that i could ride my cr250 in down here

[CornfieldCraziness]

Wow, that's impressive. The tires on my truck are drilled for screws and now your video makes me want to try putting some screws in and seeing what it can do. I don't very often have ice to drive on though.

[XboobtubeX]

yep...winter tires on cars have to be the same on all four corners or else it throws the balance off. so a bike is prob the same way....but wow....what traction...

[soccer22871]

What gear are u in when are doing that on the ice?

[groutaone]

@soccer22871 3rd 4th and 5th

[cbk982]

you know youve got good traction when you can pop a wheelie that easily on ice

[poserproductions1]

thanks for posting this! now i know i should either go balls out or dont do it at all.

[groutaone]

@UnitFmX11 Thanks for being the first in the comment line, and for watching

[8087j]

Nice! Reminds me of a very old video (30 years maybe) involving circle track ice racing. One rider fell off of his bike and the whole pack was coming towards him. He crawled to safety just in the nick of time, barely escaping the gnashing of spikes headed his way. Later, they timed the distance he crawled and declared it a world record.

[groutaone]

@8087j The guy must have thought, oh no its a pack of flesh eaters coming my way

[heliarche]

But damn you make me nervous doing wheelies on the ice.

[groutaone]

@heliarche Nah no biggie, cant get road rash from sliding on my back on ice ha ha

[heliarche]

Love that bike jack and you're definitely hooking up much better.

[groutaone]

@heliarche Thanks, Just need a front now

[levianthan28]

nice man now love to see u get front tire and rip it up :)

[groutaone]

@levianthan28 Thanks bud

[Sahllem]

Is that blood on the front tire? at the end it look like blood!

[groutaone]

@Sahllem Lol its not blood, its the fender reflecting off the water on the tire

[Sahllem]

@groutaone glad to ear that!

[cashstore1]

If there is such thing, do you thing screws with a higher tensile strength would reduce the amount of wear?

[heliarche]

@cashstore1 It would be the hardness of the screws to resist wear.Tensile strength would be how much it can resist being stretched before it breaks.The way the screws are all black it looks like they're probably high carbon steel so they're probably damn hard.

[groutaone]

@cashstore1 I think they are hardened steel but what makes them wear fast is hard spinning and frozen dirt, this abuse they are not getting so they should last a while

[ferebeescott211]

Looks like quite an improvement over the last ice test

[groutaone]

@ferebeescott211 I think now I got something here

[ricibiribicci]

you're the best!

[groutaone]

@ricibiribicci Idk bout that but you made me smile at least ha ha

[ricibiribicci]

@groutaone People that have fun so much with the CR 500 I have not ever seen! I admire you for this! XD And anyway .. you are good in the guide

[TEAMdumpsterbrain]

1:49 crf!

[navythomas8]

Very interesting! I'd like to try that but I still run on pavement so where its dry I dont think it would grip.

[groutaone]

@navythomas8 I think on pavement it would make for some good fireworks at night

[500passwords]

somewhere a guy in a hardware store

is cussing cause somebody bought all the damn screws . lol

thumbs up iceman :) 

[groutaone]

@500passwords Bet the guy then went to the next store to find I had been there too ha ha

[Futurensen]

So as long as i can compare from viewing the videos the new ice tire gives much more traction while the front is now seems to have the problem.. So the solution is simple ice tire and to the front with screws in it and you ready to go.. Intresting experiment Groutaone great job!!

[groutaone]

@Futurensen Learn as we go along I guess, ya a matching front would be awesome

[jazapullen]

That is one good looking bike

[groutaone]

@jazapullen Thanks

[newt20002]

Very awesome Groutaone. I love the 500cr/af you built. I recently had a suzuki rm and always wanted to ice ride. Ill have to get another one and maybe make my own studs out of some harded steel ram set nails.  Do these studs hold up for a long period of time or rip out?

[groutaone]

@newt20002 Not sure how long they will last but I think they will stay put though because there are so many sharing the load

[ttaannss]

dude true your rear tire screws...it will take a while with a flat head but it might work even better

[groutaone]

@ttaannss May try that yet

[SirSmighty]

The sound of a CR500 gets my blood pumping, I recently modded a 02 blaster frame with a kx 250 engine can't wait to hit some ice with it, check out snow mobile trails.com for a nice tire setup for ice. If you don't mix your gas then you're not hauling ass.

[4g63junkie]

old back tire looked like it would be better in deep snow 4inch or deeper because of spacing on lugs but i only ride my cr500 on 70degrees F days

[groutaone]

@4g63junkie So far my best snow tire is my paddle, but its the worst on ice lol

[Daniel96sj]

madd :)

[jakeslife79]

I love how you just get on the gas ever so slight in 5th gear and it pulls the front end up... Your 500 is a beast!!

[groutaone]

@jakeslife79 5th gear muscle, Its one of the reasons I like to ride it heh heh

[HondaCRF150Rider]

if you dont mind me asking, how much did it cost for all those screws? im looking into doing that on my bike.

[groutaone]

@HondaCRF150Rider I think I have about $100 in screws for the back, check ebay though I'am not sure on that

[motocrozz8]

turning the screws so the edges are all facing the same way going with the bike might help!

[groutaone]

@motocrozz8 Yes the only drawback though is then not all the screws would be turned in all the way, its zero spin now so I'am not sure what would improve

[traxxaslover123]

the nice thing about a metal edge used for ice traction (like ice skating) is that it doesn't just suddenly slip, but has kind of a smooth clutch feel. i used to play a lot of hockey. did you think of sharpening them? maybe use one of those little sandpaper flap wheel things? i know ice skates need a sharpening every 10-15 hours of intense hockey, so those screws must get dull really fast! lower tire pressure might help, too.

[groutaone]

@traxxaslover123 I would think these screws woul;d also be dull after 15 hours of ice ripping, not sure though, if they dont really spin they will last a long time

[traxxaslover123]

@groutaone it wouldn't matter much, the force put on them will round the edges. a sharp edge is what gives you traction on ice. it is kind of like how a kitchen knife will dull, though it never cuts anything harder than itself.

[NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000]

You crazy fuck. Great vid man.

[groutaone]

@NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000 Thanks I think lol

[NOLIMIT69NOLIMIT2000]

@groutaone lol Yea it was a compliment.

[JccBlazer]

well if you can do wellyes on ice I think the screus are working

[groutaone]

@JccBlazer Agreed

[pain250x]

looks very good....but looks like you need more ice to play with now that u have a tire that works...

[groutaone]

@pain250x Would be fun on a lake with a nice front tire

[Blackout9550]

So how does the new tire with more screws wear compared to the old tire with less screws?

[groutaone]

@Blackout9550 Sorry I misread your question, not sure on wear yet as I havent run it much, but I think as long as it doesnt spin it will last a long time, those screws dont like hard spinning it seems

[Gasser4x4]

Ice wheelies!

[metallicman711]

looks like theres blood on the front tyre

[groutaone]

@metallicman711 Kinda, but its water taking a reflection off the fender above

[pickles781]

woohoo! ice wheelies!

[megatundraboy]

Did you change your jetting for winter ?

[groutaone]

@megatundraboy I'am up 4 from stock, run it like that year round

[thefarmfred1]

that's a crazy amount of ice studs

[groutaone]

@thefarmfred1 Seems its the recipie for ice powder heh heh

[bonzo9303204406]

that dig pretty well its almost like on dirt

[groutaone]

@bonzo9303204406 I think its about the best hook this bike has had

[bonzo9303204406]

@groutaone i think it will be better if you make supermoto tires with ice screws ... it will be so much more hooked to the ice ...

[groutaone]

@bonzo9303204406 I think you are right, that way I could put more screws in and make any pattern I want, also liners are available for the inside of the tire so longer screws could still be used

[bonzo9303204406]

@groutaone yeah .. and there is tire sealants for spraying the inside of the tire ... that will protect the thinner street tire from leaking air and going flat from the screws

[IHcubcadet]

looks like success to me.

[groutaone]

@IHcubcadet You bet

[edzgarage]

Did you loose any screws? I put screws in my 8N tractor tires once, and after one plowing of the driveway I lost over half the screws.

[bonzo9303204406]

@edzgarage cuz you drove it on asphalt ... he drove his bike with his pickup truck ... screws are for ice not for asphalt

[edzgarage]

@bonzo9303204406 I did? No, it was an icy dirt driveway.

[bonzo9303204406]

@edzgarage well frozen dirt is pretty tough too ... the ice is more fragile like glass ... and dirt is like rock when it is frozen ... i'm not good in explanations but you should understand me right ?

[groutaone]

@edzgarage I lost a bunch of front screws off the very side of the front tire, they are shorter and I screwed a lot of them in the same hole as last year, need an ice front tire to make this work

[Dedeyedan]

hey did u stud your front

[TheSlowCooker]

@Dedeyedan you should have watched the whole video

[groutaone]

@Dedeyedan Yes

[randyer8]

that bike is a beast!!!!!!

[groutaone]

@randyer8 Seems it just wants to tear me and the back fender off its back, only happened once so far ha ha

[daoli19900]

how often do you have to rebuild the top end ? 

[LeMieux250]

@daoli19900 every 60-80 hours is pretty standard for any size 2-stroke. it all depends on wha kind of fuel you run, what kind of premix you run, what mix ratio you run, how hard you ride it, etc.

[groutaone]

@daoli19900 I have seen these big 500's go several seasons easy, real tough piston design

[daoli19900]

@groutaone ok my 125 has 18 years now and i don't know if it even saw a new piston before so have to do it when I have the license ^^

[ttaannss]

sick sick sick!!!!!!!!! #1 fav vid yet

[groutaone]

@ttaannss Thanks for the fav

[09raptorfreak]

take it from me , i race on ice on a quad , when i go racing , or juste riding on the lake , i only put my tires when im on the lake so they d'ont wear out if you ride on normal ground the studs will last only 1 ride , and el've got much more aggressive studs , check out my profile background , that was last week-end , awesome video

[groutaone]

@09raptorfreak Yes I agree, this tire stays on the ice, I have even thought it would be nice to wrap the tires up just to roll them on a pickup or cement floor

[cisjohn2616]

I did my four wheeler tires...Took forever !

[09raptorfreak]

@cisjohn2616 el've got 1000 studs on my quad and there all bolted from the inside , it took me 6h to do all 4 tires

[groutaone]

@09raptorfreak Thats a big job, four dismounts and remounts, must be a big upgrade on ice

[michaelovitch]

You did "wrong" with the screws in my opinion.

the more screws you have the less pressure you will have on each one.

So the less grip you will have on each one.

Look the ice tires on race cars.

very thin tires and sharp screws, not flat, to have the best pressure surface ratio.

remove the half would be better i think.

[zeekdavis11]

@michaelovitch i obvs. did it right if he was able to translate the power to the ground and do wheelies on ice...AND bikes and cars are different games so, what you said was irrelevant

[michaelovitch]

@zeekdavis11

main battle tanks, cars, motobikes, tractors, excavators etc... are under the same laws of physic .

[Dedeyedan]

@michaelovitch lol i like to skip around so i take it he did

[zeekdavis11]

@michaelovitch he*

[groutaone]

@michaelovitch Idk, the traction could not be improved at all, zero spin

[notree666]

Awesome groutane.. More updates of your buggy lol

[groutaone]

@notree666 Thats next on the docket

[BORDERTRASH01]

UPGRADES!!!!!

[InspectorSnatch]

ⒶⓌⒺⓈⓄⓂⒺ

[rekjavicxxx]

Wow man, I dunno what's more amazing...you pullin wheelies on the ice, or the fact yall already have ice that thick up there!

So did you personally put all 1100 screws in that tire, or order it that way??

[notree666]

@rekjavicxxx He put them in.

[UnbeltedSundew]

@rekjavicxxx He showed the screws in an earlier video, so he put them all in. Heh, it must of taken a while.

[rekjavicxxx]

@UnbeltedSundew Apparently!! Sheesh! It'd take me a decade just to count that high! LOL

[groutaone]

@rekjavicxxx Thanks bud, not much snow out here but we have eight inches of ice, these screws I installed myself

[rekjavicxxx]

@groutaone Good grief dude!!! How long did that take you??

[groutaone]

@rekjavicxxx Not sure, good thing it wasnt all in one day ha ha

[utoobube]

friggin awesome vid man!

[groutaone]

@utoobube Thanks

[cubbeezx]

Good job! That's a lot of screws! Did you get to sample the hardness of the ice when in contact with body?

[groutaone]

@cubbeezx Thanks bud, no contact with the screws yet, care not to find out what happens then