Wow, I can't believe these players that rigged games! Such assholes. It was interesting to see some Korean culture in this video. The way the commentators use ancient saying about the tree and stuff. I see these kinds of things in eastern films, but I did not know they talked this way in real life.
@AnimeIntroStyles4 :^| while you DO never know, I don't think flash would give up a golden mouse and a chance to be both MSL and OSL champion simultaneously for any amount of cash... hell, that kid makes a killing playing games Legally... why would he need more money and risk being outcast from Esports forever?
I really loved iloveoov's parting words near the end of the video, "even if everything is destroyed, we will just rebuild it" thats a really positive view of things, it should be pinned up on a wall and read everyday : )
I agree with the fat guy; This scandal was inevitable. All these naive players with little knowledge of the real world suddenly being offered big money when betting sites realize there's a profit in E-sports, there's bound to be someone who is tempted. There has been scandals like this in any big sport, so it's not surprising
The involved players need to have their licenses revoked just to make an example. Younger players will imagine their careers crashing and will not be tempted in the future
I liked the boxer and iloveoov part too, but you guys really should watch the end part of old boy ep10 (i dont think it is uploaded yet?) where nal_ra just talks about scandal in self camera.
watching in fullscreen sucks. if you move the mouse only a little, you cannot see the subst, because the statusbar will appear. i have to download it then TT
I think I can forgive the other younger players for their offenses... but Savior and Justin should be locked up for fraud.... they are in a completely different league to the rest.
Bro, is 6000 dollars for one loss. i mean other sins like savior, fucking asshole selling replays and recording his teammate's plays with a FUCKING CAMERA. thats unacceptable. his the one who showed other players the site and the illegal money. Ye you are right dude. these kids were rising stars. like hwasin. i am his fan. i always wondered y on earth he couldn't get passed 16th round. However, prize money goes to top 3. maybe they werent confident
They are exagerating too much. its prob for the show. Honestly, guys think about it. if you can get 6000 dollars for losing a starcraft game, 1 single game, wouldnt you do it? Progaming is such a tough career, if i were one, i would have prob done it as well if i had the chance. Lets think about their side before we think our side as fans. Nothing dramatic will happen because of this scandal. they will still be alot of fans, alot of sponsors. 10 years of built e-sports dont go down in a day.
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PUT THE CHICKEN BONE DOWN! DO NOT WAVE IT AROUND LIKE IT FUCKING ADDS TO YOUR POINT - CHEW WITH YOUR MOUTH CLOSED.... FUCK! NO FOOD! NO EATING ON TV! NO EATING ON TV! FUCK YOU!
MAN VS FOOD > KOREANS EATING AND TALKING ABOUT SC
WHATS NEXT SQUID TENTACLE SEX WHILE NAL RA WALKS IN THE PARK? FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW, Trying to add drama to shit - "SO MAD ACE DISSOLVED ITS TEAM" No shit dips hit! It stained the military's honor, fuck you think they were going to do. Oooh poor gamers boohoo!
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LAME! If I see another gay ass video of Koreans eating and pretending to be all concerned about their little starcraft world I will ban STARCRAFT 2.... until it is $19.99 for it and its expansion set. ^..^ tee hee
But seriously, EATING ON TELEVISION, while having a discussion is fucking lame.. shitty scripted sad ass reporte', horrible dialogue, oh look at Kingdom.. all concerned - while fatty mcfatfat is eating. LAME! LAME!
Savior needs get his own show and do a line of coke already!
I think there is a strong political intention behind this after talk. The speakers demonize the players involved in the scandal, which salvages the "purity and passion of the rest of gaming organizations" but there are many points to this story that are left in silence.
Was the motivation for these players just money? How did it involve many rising stars? The story that is presented doesn't add up, and I think it's because there's no voices from those involved.
respect. great watch thanks guysss!! also just realize how close some of them were to crying in those interviews.... they care. and so should we . i know i do.
they should allow betting and give 10% to the person that wins- why is betting even illegal in the first place? it would be a great way for the person who wins to make more money thus making them want to win
well HwaSIn did experience all that hard environment since hes been a progamer for like.. 7-8 years.. so he definitely feels that the game environment has been improved .. and thats the biggest reason why i was so disspointed .. this case should be over now ... no one should do this anymore..
i heard about go.go, but yellow! really! This is just upsetting. it really makes you question the integrity of the games. This is like the first time i found out pro wrestling was fake... just so disappointing!
I guess I'm the gamergeneration, had a lump in my throat watching this.
But I hope... no, I trust that after rain comes sunshine. E-sports will rebuild with a stronger foundation. Once we beat this rough patch we can come back stronger and raise our head high.
Oov seems like a very intelligent person, really got to me.
as the maestro's fan, i just cant help but to say that i am deeply disappointed in him. i cant understand why someone with his kind of title in sc would fix matches. he even encouraged his fellow players to engage in such activity. i always wanted him to come back and do well but.. i guess it is too late now.
I didint know something like this happened, just finished watching this video. I was wondering if anyone knows any websites to who was involved or a new site that has reported on it because this is my first time hearing about this.
@d07a Search for HwaSin vs Luxury [19 January, 2010] 2set @ ShinHan Bank Proleague 2009-10, this is the game mentioned when the oov fails scouting. Other players involved are Savior, Darkelf and type b
These ignorant people commenting that "It's just a game" are clearly not bright enough to see the rise of E-sports and what a big deal its becoming. As they stated this is becoming a culture in Korea, it may seem like a big deal here, but it sure is a big story in Korea.
How many of these pro sc gamers have a job? Probably 2%. Players like Flash who didn't finish school don't have options besides playing sc all day. These players are thinking about their future, they can't play sc forever.
They did, however, fuck over the e-sports elders who did hard work to make it big by fixing matches.
Airforce Ace is being disbanded too because of this? I really hope savior and lux get stripped of their titles, give them to the ones who came in second. (nada, reach, nal_ra, silver and jangbi)
The titles they took back then were not matches that were thrown. plus those who came second would've been the ones who threw matches so they do not deserve the title either.
J and K.. There was time Jin Yung Wha ( movie) went final round in Korean AIr starleague. If that was one, then Flash is involved too, but obviously not since commentators hasnt said word about last name Lee. So I guess J might be Jin Yung Su. Or is there any other J? K , I think Kim jung woo, since they said the guy K is really good.. Well Kim jung wu (Effort) is #2 zerg. They also said airforce is involved.. whose K and J in airforce?
@hotboymm777 jin young ssu is correct. Always make it to the OSL AND MSL, seemed to make easily to the round of 8 but always got knocked out in that line. Thats why people & in this case Caster Uhm says he always had potential to win the final but couldnt despite how good he was. Uhm was saying that now alls gotten explained. ( that the cheating obviously made him perform bed on the rounds)
the players that are caught need to have the strongest possible punishment, to set an example to other players that ever thinks about doing match fixing in the future
obviously the fat one in the center dont give a fuck. because in asia in a solemn occasion you dont touch the food even though its on the table and delicious... it shows you give a fuck
i cant imagine the little korean nerdlings :] ( i say this with love) being able to stand up to an outside criminal influence and say "hey im not going to throw matches for you anymore"
En todo deporte de alta competición existen sobornos, doping y de todo, el que no lo quiera reconocer es que se hace el cegato. Repito, en TODO deporte de alta competicón, y los deportes electronicos no van a ser menos, (futbol, baloncesto, culturismo, cualquier deporte vaya).
i am not sure about this...but didnt Saviour as involved in another match making scandal a few years back? if this is true then he obviously did not learn his lesson....and neither will the following match fixers would either cos they dont get proper punishment. Anybody can a pay a fine. But if there were no fines but a permenent ban then they would think about it twise. You see for some this game is a way of life and for otheres its just a way of earning money. A permament ban fixes this issue.
-sigh- I hate this, I hate watching the Flash v Effort game and not thinking "OH AWESOME EFFORT YAAAY" and instead thinking "I wonder if it was set up"
I mean, for a bit, I thought, -SPOILER- flash would only go 14-cc and Effort would go Rush build if it was set up, I mean it's so convenient, but then I realized, I would've done the same thing, effort knew Flash was nervous, and flash thought "It's game 5, I can secure a win easily if I get a better economy and pump out marines"...ul flash :/
defenetly....clean slate. Cut the cheaters off the game and ban them for life! I do love some of the players been caught off thought and i would miss them....but they must be sacrifised for the better good.
@Pinselstrich lol so what, as if you practise 10++hrs of games a day and make it a living but just realized some fags decides to rig ur hard work, so what?????????????? so what????????????????????????
Can somebody tell me what words they are censoring? Yeah, I know they are cursing, but I really want to know, what counts as a swear word in korean, Thanks
I'm with Kim carrier on cutting out all people involved. although i will definitely take having an esports scene over not....
in the end, i only want to know everyone that was involved - rigged or helped rig a game. if that kills sponsors, then tell us slowly - but tell us that eventually we will know all...
@thepathablaze I think the players announced are only the top of iceberg. Maybe there are more players who played rigged matches once or twice and then stopped.
They're doing their best, cursing the players involved. But they can't even delay the inevitable - BROOD WAR is over. I think it will lose popularity and fall to SC2 eventually. Maybe even in the next 2 years.
@Taosique Yeah, if SC2 coming out wasn't bad enough for the BW scene, this scandal just compounds their problems even more. Not to mention Blizzard has stopped negotiating with Kespa. All of this just seems to be pointing to the end of an era.
So Savior wasn't really ina slump! he was rolling the in cash! The tears were tears of joy on how much money he made off teh betting on the other guy. A True zerg player!
I life sentence for throwing a starcraft game?!? LMAO!. It's bad but it isn't a twelfth as bad as that. I'm not even sure if they should be permanently banned from gaming. I think a large fine, a public apology, and a year suspension would be enough. Along with maybe a little bit of jail time for fraud for the worst offenders, but nothing worse then a few months to maybe a year.
We live in a world where Micheal Vick and torture and kill animals and still play, so what not SC players?
To ppl who are curious about the players, they are all listed on Teamliquid. But from what I remember, sAvior Hwasin gogo Justin darkelf yellow[yarnc] luxury type-b upmagic
@brianious Thx. Its interesting that there is no Protoss. Good 4 U toss players. Unfortunately I`m Zerg player... Savior - u r biggest SHAMEFULLY player of those cheatters!!
@UnholyOneToo Maestro is awesome, and YOU are the pile of crap.. I bet your face stinks like a toilet. Let me play you 1v1 and show you how worthless are, you fucking bronze leagued bitch.
@UnholyOneToo tell you what, if you suck my dick, the world will know what a faggot you actually are. don't be afraid to let your true gay self out, you cum bucket.
@meatissodumb u r really fuckin stupid, no wonder - u r american idtiot. I told u already what u should do when u wanna suck dick, u little man whore.
@UnholyOneToo if i could kill you I would, unfortunately I don't know where you live, but if you let me know, I'll buy a plane ticket and come see your asshole self. then I'll fist fuck you in the ass.
Wow, I can't believe these players that rigged games! Such assholes. It was interesting to see some Korean culture in this video. The way the commentators use ancient saying about the tree and stuff. I see these kinds of things in eastern films, but I did not know they talked this way in real life.
jmanbrizzle 4 hours ago
what does savior do now days?
bludika 1 month ago
YOU WOULD BE EATING, UHM JAE KYUNG YOU FAT FUCK.
liquidpersuasion 10 months ago
... is that a huge plate of fried chicken???
Chnamanjx 1 year ago 6
다음주 결승전에 가득찬 사람들에 감동했었죠 ㅠㅠ
하지만 재경기 크리 -,-;
l000st 1 year ago
i can watch carrier eat his pasta and chicken all day, lov watching him eat >:)
grindingitup 1 year ago
Is it just me, or do these guys just eat chicken in every show
SpontaneousRetard 1 year ago 7
Read this article to see player names.
(double you's) . teamliquid . net / forum / viewmessage . php ? topic (underscore) id = 125601
StrikerX228 1 year ago
Can anyone tell me which people actually fixed matches besides savior?
wowwofication 1 year ago
Hahaha I always hated that fucker Savior. I'm glad he got all of his titles revoked and i hope he goes to jail.
and btw Savior: Don't drop the soap!
ppshchik 1 year ago
김캐리 너 나 잘하세요!
nozomi2311 1 year ago
wow they're really intelligent people.. the way they talk
perhocks 1 year ago 3
tooli.co.kr/board/654228 (u have to scroll down)
here is where Savior losing purposely. Castor Kang is like "wow how he lose after winning all this?"
Just watch Savior's face after he lose. LMAO!!!
hotboymm777 1 year ago
@hotboymm777 wow
triplejinx 1 year ago
man Mr.Um caster makes me hungry... i want that chicken so bad
hotboymm777 1 year ago
this scandal is over. ALl those caught hwasin, savior, and some others already apologized and paied fee to court :)
hotboymm777 1 year ago
good shit. fuck savior
SovietSR71 1 year ago
Thanks for this
djzapz 1 year ago
Well Flash, Jaedong, and Effort haven't been found to cheat yet so at least the top of the game is safe for now.
AnimeIntroStyles4 1 year ago
@AnimeIntroStyles4 I seriously doubt Flash, Jaedong and Effort have been throwing matches. Their records and win rates are just too good for that ;)
Tyke91 1 year ago
@Tyke91 You never know o.O
AnimeIntroStyles4 1 year ago
@AnimeIntroStyles4 :^| while you DO never know, I don't think flash would give up a golden mouse and a chance to be both MSL and OSL champion simultaneously for any amount of cash... hell, that kid makes a killing playing games Legally... why would he need more money and risk being outcast from Esports forever?
Tyke91 1 year ago
I really loved iloveoov's parting words near the end of the video, "even if everything is destroyed, we will just rebuild it" thats a really positive view of things, it should be pinned up on a wall and read everyday : )
Fate025 1 year ago 5
@Fate025 or just gg and rage quit.
rbrtchng 1 year ago
I agree with the fat guy; This scandal was inevitable. All these naive players with little knowledge of the real world suddenly being offered big money when betting sites realize there's a profit in E-sports, there's bound to be someone who is tempted. There has been scandals like this in any big sport, so it's not surprising
The involved players need to have their licenses revoked just to make an example. Younger players will imagine their careers crashing and will not be tempted in the future
Nostalgamagic 1 year ago 2
i bet on hwasin before oh well
sm0kie420 1 year ago
who are the three commentators? they are ex-players right?
jamchew1982 1 year ago
@jamchew1982 left is Kim Carrier, right is Kingdom, and middle is I forgot.. Only kingdom is expro IIRC all commentators now for OGN
kashiramojid 1 year ago
@kashiramojid the middle one is uhm jaegyung, and nal_ra is also an ogn commentator but he wasnt available for this episode
ahkbar 1 year ago
i was huge fans of HwaSin and UpMagic. I always cheered for them and always kept a close eye on HwaSin's progress, I feel like i was cheated :/
VinsonWood 1 year ago
Boxer and iloveoov :D
megadethqc 1 year ago
I liked the boxer and iloveoov part too, but you guys really should watch the end part of old boy ep10 (i dont think it is uploaded yet?) where nal_ra just talks about scandal in self camera.
westshotgun 1 year ago
are they talking about upmagic around 12 minute mark? with the overlord and the suv reference?
rabitslayer 1 year ago
I really liked this video. Thanks for subbing. IT really explained everything to me. Especcially liked the Boxer/iloveoov part
45step54 1 year ago
its great o see this video with subs so people can get idea of whats goin on.
fire2257 1 year ago
savior: i will destroy everyone in 2009 (unless you pay me not to).
KiNPiN1835 1 year ago 36
thx tl
daarkside 1 year ago
watching in fullscreen sucks. if you move the mouse only a little, you cannot see the subst, because the statusbar will appear. i have to download it then TT
lenzorg 1 year ago
I think I can forgive the other younger players for their offenses... but Savior and Justin should be locked up for fraud.... they are in a completely different league to the rest.
stormhart28 1 year ago
Bro, is 6000 dollars for one loss. i mean other sins like savior, fucking asshole selling replays and recording his teammate's plays with a FUCKING CAMERA. thats unacceptable. his the one who showed other players the site and the illegal money. Ye you are right dude. these kids were rising stars. like hwasin. i am his fan. i always wondered y on earth he couldn't get passed 16th round. However, prize money goes to top 3. maybe they werent confident
lKamilia 1 year ago
They are exagerating too much. its prob for the show. Honestly, guys think about it. if you can get 6000 dollars for losing a starcraft game, 1 single game, wouldnt you do it? Progaming is such a tough career, if i were one, i would have prob done it as well if i had the chance. Lets think about their side before we think our side as fans. Nothing dramatic will happen because of this scandal. they will still be alot of fans, alot of sponsors. 10 years of built e-sports dont go down in a day.
lKamilia 1 year ago
@lKamilia News flash, it's never the poor downtrodden players who struggle that get approached for losing games.
It's the players who are good enough that the odds say they will win that stand to make the most.
Which is why it's the worst sort of betrayal.
They just spat on everyone else who actually tries.
sibladeko 1 year ago
Boxer seems so wise, what a great guy
nubonamission 1 year ago 6
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#LOL. FATTY can't hold back! Disgusting Pig.
dskimchen 1 year ago
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PUT THE CHICKEN BONE DOWN! DO NOT WAVE IT AROUND LIKE IT FUCKING ADDS TO YOUR POINT - CHEW WITH YOUR MOUTH CLOSED.... FUCK! NO FOOD! NO EATING ON TV! NO EATING ON TV! FUCK YOU!
MAN VS FOOD > KOREANS EATING AND TALKING ABOUT SC
WHATS NEXT SQUID TENTACLE SEX WHILE NAL RA WALKS IN THE PARK? FUCK IS WRONG WITH THIS SHOW, Trying to add drama to shit - "SO MAD ACE DISSOLVED ITS TEAM" No shit dips hit! It stained the military's honor, fuck you think they were going to do. Oooh poor gamers boohoo!
amerikano 1 year ago
@amerikano
Americano, if you don't like the vid, dont watch it and keep your own idiotic opinion to yourself.
horange84 1 year ago 3
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LAME! If I see another gay ass video of Koreans eating and pretending to be all concerned about their little starcraft world I will ban STARCRAFT 2.... until it is $19.99 for it and its expansion set. ^..^ tee hee
But seriously, EATING ON TELEVISION, while having a discussion is fucking lame.. shitty scripted sad ass reporte', horrible dialogue, oh look at Kingdom.. all concerned - while fatty mcfatfat is eating. LAME! LAME!
Savior needs get his own show and do a line of coke already!
amerikano 1 year ago
I think there is a strong political intention behind this after talk. The speakers demonize the players involved in the scandal, which salvages the "purity and passion of the rest of gaming organizations" but there are many points to this story that are left in silence.
Was the motivation for these players just money? How did it involve many rising stars? The story that is presented doesn't add up, and I think it's because there's no voices from those involved.
superscissors 1 year ago 5
respect. great watch thanks guysss!! also just realize how close some of them were to crying in those interviews.... they care. and so should we . i know i do.
randomplace 1 year ago
oh ye, does anyone know which player involved in this scandle?
beside the big name like Savior
hitmankillzone 1 year ago
@hitmankillzone Hwasin, go.go, Yellow[ArnC], UpMagic, Luxury, type-b
r3z3nd3 1 year ago
they should allow betting and give 10% to the person that wins- why is betting even illegal in the first place? it would be a great way for the person who wins to make more money thus making them want to win
Halo2isgay87 1 year ago
@Halo2isgay87 they were losing matches on purpose to win bets not betting on winning.
bloodwolf007 1 year ago
Kim Carrier is pissed O.O
r3z3nd3 1 year ago
well HwaSIn did experience all that hard environment since hes been a progamer for like.. 7-8 years.. so he definitely feels that the game environment has been improved .. and thats the biggest reason why i was so disspointed .. this case should be over now ... no one should do this anymore..
Jeongwonism 1 year ago
Thanks a lot for subbing this!
z32o 1 year ago
pretty extreme methods they discuss...
deuone 1 year ago
that guy in the yellow plaid is totally angry
Kohria 1 year ago
is it yellow the king of silver that was cheating or was it someone other yellow???
TheTheo86 1 year ago
@TheTheo86 it was fake yellow, luxery's twin brother
VinsonWood 1 year ago
Now we can all see those FBH ceremonies against sAviOr with no pity at all
ghostrr 1 year ago 59
@ghostrr HAHAHA (Y) yea man
swchoi89 1 year ago
@ghostrr The funny thing is that i've only saw this ceremony today and pited him, a few minutes later i found about this scandal
Ayumu50 1 year ago
U.S. still supports the E-Sports Community. I will be up watching Flash vs JD! Long Live BW! Long Live SC!
DarkArchonofAuir 1 year ago 2
Ma Jae-Yoon Sangsu has destroyed everyone
yijianglin2000 1 year ago 4
lol he never stopped eating
hammburger83 1 year ago
i heard about go.go, but yellow! really! This is just upsetting. it really makes you question the integrity of the games. This is like the first time i found out pro wrestling was fake... just so disappointing!
onTOPtheROCK 1 year ago
@onTOPtheROCK
yellow[anc] not yellow
seol1500 1 year ago
@seol1500 you mean YellOw[ArnC] -.-
mrlie3 1 year ago
i remember watching gogo play a few matches where he just played SO BADLY. i knew something was fishy
leeoku 1 year ago
who were some of the players involved?
onTOPtheROCK 1 year ago
@onTOPtheROCK hwasin, savior, yellow(arnc), luxury, upmagic, go.go., and type-b
savior got fired from kespa and cj entus removed him from the team.
luxury got his contract with kt removed
its on teamliquid, type "match-fixing scandal - conclusion"
azngamer828 1 year ago
Terribly Terribly damaged?
Owompa 1 year ago
BoxeR for president.
numberThirtyOne 1 year ago
Excellent; thanks for the upload.
Xidlarus 1 year ago
I guess I'm the gamergeneration, had a lump in my throat watching this.
But I hope... no, I trust that after rain comes sunshine. E-sports will rebuild with a stronger foundation. Once we beat this rough patch we can come back stronger and raise our head high.
Oov seems like a very intelligent person, really got to me.
zethgb 1 year ago 2
27:10 Fucking Korean TV producers and their hackneyed cheesy sound effects.
kamikrazi123 1 year ago
Oov is such a baller.
flyskyairflair 1 year ago
Off topic: This video is making me seriously hungry.
numberThirtyOne 1 year ago 3
@numberThirtyOne Agreed; I can hear them smacking the whole time. I'm drooling.
penroff4 1 year ago
I hope SC stays strong, and I like oov's attitude :D
UndeadTheta 1 year ago 2
as the maestro's fan, i just cant help but to say that i am deeply disappointed in him. i cant understand why someone with his kind of title in sc would fix matches. he even encouraged his fellow players to engage in such activity. i always wanted him to come back and do well but.. i guess it is too late now.
mkwannab 1 year ago 5
cool upload, i don't want to know who the players were, i'd still like to think i'm watchin a real match. i'll determine whether it's fake =/
chrisbary 1 year ago
There's a lot of food for 3 guys. LOL
zlash 1 year ago
I didint know something like this happened, just finished watching this video. I was wondering if anyone knows any websites to who was involved or a new site that has reported on it because this is my first time hearing about this.
ChibiGamEr 1 year ago
Damn, that was a good watch
jawkster 1 year ago
The e-sports will face it, clean it , and come back again stronger than ever.
Dreamoen 1 year ago
:,(((((((((((((
aliveTerraN 1 year ago
what is a fixed match? and which players were involved?
Slowmatrix 1 year ago
I almost cried =/
vaaaliant 1 year ago
28:21 best translation ever?
and for fuck sake like we need any more excuses for faggots to go and play sc2 they always say you cant beat a koreans timing, guess its true
d07a 1 year ago
do not care. just want to keep watching games. msl finals coming up sick sick.
OneFierceZealot 1 year ago
i hope the last game of the finals wasn't fixed....
DAMN IT FLASH WHY U LOSE
jetsamjetsam 1 year ago
Repugnante el wn que come mientras los otros hablan!!!
Wns idiotas, aprovechandose...
jinkazLA 1 year ago
who was actually involved ffs? and what games was it
d07a 1 year ago
@d07a Search for HwaSin vs Luxury [19 January, 2010] 2set @ ShinHan Bank Proleague 2009-10, this is the game mentioned when the oov fails scouting. Other players involved are Savior, Darkelf and type b
cascadeSC 1 year ago
Lifetime in prison is not enough for these betrayers! Hang them upside down in their balls and let wild monkeys shit in their faces.
cascadeSC 1 year ago
is this the next nal_ra oldboy?
jetsamjetsam 1 year ago
@jetsamjetsam no.
entocheets 1 year ago
김태형 개 언플 작렬...ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
에혀 그나저나 스타도 참 위기네...
nozomi2311 1 year ago
I'm glad and thankful that the hangar was filled with people during the finals.
thanks for the subs :)
RadiateJayess 1 year ago 3
These ignorant people commenting that "It's just a game" are clearly not bright enough to see the rise of E-sports and what a big deal its becoming. As they stated this is becoming a culture in Korea, it may seem like a big deal here, but it sure is a big story in Korea.
OMGzombieRUN 1 year ago
How many of these pro sc gamers have a job? Probably 2%. Players like Flash who didn't finish school don't have options besides playing sc all day. These players are thinking about their future, they can't play sc forever.
They did, however, fuck over the e-sports elders who did hard work to make it big by fixing matches.
reversetriangle 1 year ago
Now we just need Tossgirl to be in a sex tape scandal then Starcraft would be a real sport.
JayChouFanatic 1 year ago 6
@JayChouFanatic I'd like to see Idra in that sex tape
moozles 1 year ago
@JayChouFanatic thumb up
hitmankillzone 1 year ago
fatty needs to stop eating ffs
kamikrazi123 1 year ago
@kamikrazi123
yeah, what the hell was up with that? kingdom looks absolutely miserable and the other guy just keeps munching without a care in the world.
doufupanda 1 year ago
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wouldn't surprise me that blizz was behind it all ! ;)
what better way to put sc2 in hardcore marketing mode. lol
p0sb0k 1 year ago
@p0sb0k you are a moron
reallysecretusername 1 year ago 3
@p0sb0k my thoughts EXACTLY .. this is their BACK UP PLAN
aimthailaxu 1 year ago
Airforce Ace is being disbanded too because of this? I really hope savior and lux get stripped of their titles, give them to the ones who came in second. (nada, reach, nal_ra, silver and jangbi)
Stormwern 1 year ago
@Stormwern where did you get that from? at no point did they say it was going to be disbanded.
reallysecretusername 1 year ago
@reallysecretusername You're right, they said "if airforce ace disbands..", my mistake.
Stormwern 1 year ago
@Stormwern
Why would you strip them of their titles?
The titles they took back then were not matches that were thrown. plus those who came second would've been the ones who threw matches so they do not deserve the title either.
Mykillyang 1 year ago
J and K.. There was time Jin Yung Wha ( movie) went final round in Korean AIr starleague. If that was one, then Flash is involved too, but obviously not since commentators hasnt said word about last name Lee. So I guess J might be Jin Yung Su. Or is there any other J? K , I think Kim jung woo, since they said the guy K is really good.. Well Kim jung wu (Effort) is #2 zerg. They also said airforce is involved.. whose K and J in airforce?
hotboymm777 1 year ago
@hotboymm777 jin young ssu is correct. Always make it to the OSL AND MSL, seemed to make easily to the round of 8 but always got knocked out in that line. Thats why people & in this case Caster Uhm says he always had potential to win the final but couldnt despite how good he was. Uhm was saying that now alls gotten explained. ( that the cheating obviously made him perform bed on the rounds)
brit5040 1 year ago
@hotboymm777 it's hwasin, he already apologized
TheRamstoss 1 year ago
@hotboymm777 K in air force in Darkelf and J in Hwasin
Nutshot5111 1 year ago
Sad situation...
What is the name of the song at the end of this video?
pokerpeed 1 year ago
@pokerpeed the song is Easy to Ignore by Sixpence none the Richer
ferobbis 1 year ago
the players that are caught need to have the strongest possible punishment, to set an example to other players that ever thinks about doing match fixing in the future
reallysecretusername 1 year ago
when was this aired? also can you guys put up dates in the description below the video, i can't find this information.
mrsoultwister 1 year ago
obviously the fat one in the center dont give a fuck. because in asia in a solemn occasion you dont touch the food even though its on the table and delicious... it shows you give a fuck
h0tie 1 year ago
cry me a river
lakermangmx 1 year ago
@lakermangmx cry me a reaver
Taosique 1 year ago 12
i cant imagine the little korean nerdlings :] ( i say this with love) being able to stand up to an outside criminal influence and say "hey im not going to throw matches for you anymore"
outlaw42001 1 year ago
En todo deporte de alta competición existen sobornos, doping y de todo, el que no lo quiera reconocer es que se hace el cegato. Repito, en TODO deporte de alta competicón, y los deportes electronicos no van a ser menos, (futbol, baloncesto, culturismo, cualquier deporte vaya).
StriktoZerg 1 year ago
Savior will kill himself for sure..
beenthesun 1 year ago
i am not sure about this...but didnt Saviour as involved in another match making scandal a few years back? if this is true then he obviously did not learn his lesson....and neither will the following match fixers would either cos they dont get proper punishment. Anybody can a pay a fine. But if there were no fines but a permenent ban then they would think about it twise. You see for some this game is a way of life and for otheres its just a way of earning money. A permament ban fixes this issue.
elcocodriloazul 1 year ago
-sigh- I hate this, I hate watching the Flash v Effort game and not thinking "OH AWESOME EFFORT YAAAY" and instead thinking "I wonder if it was set up"
I mean, for a bit, I thought, -SPOILER- flash would only go 14-cc and Effort would go Rush build if it was set up, I mean it's so convenient, but then I realized, I would've done the same thing, effort knew Flash was nervous, and flash thought "It's game 5, I can secure a win easily if I get a better economy and pump out marines"...ul flash :/
VaderGaming 1 year ago
@VaderGaming Idont think so. They will never (90% of sure :/) do it (match fx) again
UnholyOneToo 1 year ago
@UnholyOneToo Yeah I agree, I don't think they would, I was just saying what I thought for a very short moment, but still.
VaderGaming 1 year ago
all fuking cheaters must be banned for life in KESPA banlist.i love some of those players but e_Sports must be clean.
5 stars video at all
PaulStance182 1 year ago
28:55 IS TERRIBLE TERRIBLE DAMAGE!
gamapg 1 year ago
defenetly....clean slate. Cut the cheaters off the game and ban them for life! I do love some of the players been caught off thought and i would miss them....but they must be sacrifised for the better good.
elcocodriloazul 1 year ago
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AsifIcarebear3 1 year ago
Wow... they really mad at Savior and Hwasin...
Money really isn't an issue for the players that we're involved in this scandal...
Swarms89 1 year ago
fu savior
fu justin
fu hwasin, luxury, practice and all u other cheating bastards
nalra85 1 year ago 3
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Pinselstrich 1 year ago
@Pinselstrich lol so what, as if you practise 10++hrs of games a day and make it a living but just realized some fags decides to rig ur hard work, so what?????????????? so what????????????????????????
nalra85 1 year ago
I gotta say OMG THAT CHICKEN LOOKS SO NICE
kayfourz 1 year ago 5
Can somebody tell me what words they are censoring? Yeah, I know they are cursing, but I really want to know, what counts as a swear word in korean, Thanks
peticco 1 year ago
I'm with Kim carrier on cutting out all people involved. although i will definitely take having an esports scene over not....
in the end, i only want to know everyone that was involved - rigged or helped rig a game. if that kills sponsors, then tell us slowly - but tell us that eventually we will know all...
thepathablaze 1 year ago
@thepathablaze I think the players announced are only the top of iceberg. Maybe there are more players who played rigged matches once or twice and then stopped.
Taosique 1 year ago
17:30 who are those nine players?
UnholyOneToo 1 year ago
@UnholyOneToo savior justin hwasin luxury practice go.go type-b and 2 other zergs i forgot their names
nalra85 1 year ago
They're doing their best, cursing the players involved. But they can't even delay the inevitable - BROOD WAR is over. I think it will lose popularity and fall to SC2 eventually. Maybe even in the next 2 years.
Taosique 1 year ago
@Taosique Yeah, if SC2 coming out wasn't bad enough for the BW scene, this scandal just compounds their problems even more. Not to mention Blizzard has stopped negotiating with Kespa. All of this just seems to be pointing to the end of an era.
Gardenghoul 1 year ago
thank you for posting this!
aznzeratul 1 year ago
i'm with kim carrier. but iw ill take having a scene over not having a scene.
it's a hard choice.
i just want to know ALL players and people involved, regardless if they get cut off or not
thepathablaze 1 year ago
I hate betrayers so much!
JoCRuff 1 year ago
do u know the song on the start of old boy and this video
TopOfNewYork90 1 year ago
So Savior wasn't really ina slump! he was rolling the in cash! The tears were tears of joy on how much money he made off teh betting on the other guy. A True zerg player!
BenHileday 1 year ago
the names I hear most about with this scandal are Savior, gogo and hwasin if any1's wondering
moozles 1 year ago
I life sentence for throwing a starcraft game?!? LMAO!. It's bad but it isn't a twelfth as bad as that. I'm not even sure if they should be permanently banned from gaming. I think a large fine, a public apology, and a year suspension would be enough. Along with maybe a little bit of jail time for fraud for the worst offenders, but nothing worse then a few months to maybe a year.
We live in a world where Micheal Vick and torture and kill animals and still play, so what not SC players?
fathead8489 1 year ago
brianious 1 year ago 5
@brianious Thx. Its interesting that there is no Protoss. Good 4 U toss players. Unfortunately I`m Zerg player... Savior - u r biggest SHAMEFULLY player of those cheatters!!
UnholyOneToo 1 year ago
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UnholyOneToo 1 year ago
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meatissodumb 1 year ago
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UnholyOneToo 1 year ago
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meatissodumb 1 year ago