False Flagging Jerks (Video by Thunderf00t)

[Kelly14UK]

Hi! I'm a complete novice to YouTube, having just joined it two years ago. I have no idea what channel subscription is all about, and as a result, I have done my damnedest to hide my subscribers. But I can't hide the AMOUNT who've subscribed and don't know how to block these people from doing so in the first place. I don't gave a monkey's for these so- called online friends people brag about either. But can someone please tell me what this subscribing bullshit is all about? YouTube is shit now.

[cjeffers101]

love the ending!

[rgzdev]

Flagging 4 Jesus

[Curas1]

If cheap oil is the basis for our industrial revolution, why isn't africa or the middle east itself the hub of most economic prosperity ?

I wonder if the ideas proposed in the book guns, germs n steel by Dr. Jared M. Diamond have something to do with it ?

Could explain a lot of truth in the sociobiology in humans that is consitered taboo in post civil rights era thought ...

[Molandria]

This guy's arguments are just like Rush LImbugh's. -_-

[spuds141]

wtf ure comments are like essays

[bgb247]

for real tho lol

[johnnyk2112]

Profit=Benefit=Value=, whats wrong with Profit?

[dangerouslytalented]

Here, nobody is benefiting.

[johnnyk2112]

Profit=benefit.

[dangerouslytalented]

Not necessarily. What about in the case of fraudulent business practices? They go on all the time, look at Madoff and Enron and Bear Stearns and Lehmann Brothers and Mirror Group and Adelphi and AIG. They were immensely profitable but they have collapsed. Who benefited? In the end, nobody but those who got out early. No real benefit, only diddling the figures. What happens? Corporations that do things, make things, like GM and Ford go under, because there is no money left to buy cars.

[johnnyk2112]

Wrong, thunderf00t, Capitalism is a measure of fair trade. Not profit. That is another lie of the left.

[dangerouslytalented]

Trade, but not necessarily fair trade.

[Goat1977fu]

Please consult your dictionary.

(from webster's online)

"capitalism:

noun

An economic system charaterized by corporate or private ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market."

Nope, nothing about fair trade in there.

Pull your head out.

[johnnyk2112]

goat-Your entire reply describes free trade. Private ownership and investments, private decision, distribution of goods determined by competition, yep, free trade. Fuck off, commie.

[Goat1977fu]

Nice to see you can't be consistent just like all your neo-con heroes. In you original comment you claim "Capitalism is a measure of fair trade"

when, in fact, captialism is not a measure at all.

It's an economic system and it has nothing to do with fairness. And naturally, when this is pointed out to you, you change your story from fair trade to free trade even though what you said before is right there for everyone to see and resort to the best argument ever, name calling. Kudos.

[johnnyk2112]

goatie: I'm sorry, were you just looking to trip someone up? Do you have a problem with capitalism....Capitalism defines fair trade...

[Goat1977fu]

I don't have a problem with capitalism. I have a problem with people who obviously have no idea what their talking about trying to shout down people who do. I'll concede that most corporations want to appear fair and humane (It's great for PR) but not at the expense of profit share unless there are regulations in place to ensure fairness and humanity in business. Tf00t had it right. The only commandment in pure capitalsim is turn a profit.

[johnnyk2112]

goater: As usual, i make a simple remark in favor of capitalism, and i get accused of being ignorant and shouting others down. Pure capitalism has never been implemented. The closest was in the 19th century in America. Consequently, the country experienced the greatest industrial growth and expansion. "Turning a profit" means benefitting the company. Which means we eat and have jobs. Learn the real meaning of words and not the crap you've been force fed by aging hippies.

[jrparri]

The gap in your logic is this:

When does "benefiting the company" translate into "we eat and have jobs". Because often it does not. And with fair trade it most certainly does not.

Unless by "we" you mean people in the whole world. But I'm protectionist: I say Americans should look after American jobs, China should employ citizens of China, and so on.

Not: American companies should employ Chinese in order to benefit the company, and f*ck Americans.

Capitalist? Yes. American? No.

[jrparri]

In fact, let's remove nationalism.

Do you think it's a good idea for Japan to fill factories with cheap Brazilian labor via "free trade"? Sure, it brings the cost down for us, but the Japanese people now have no job prospects. If you were looking at the future of the Japanese economy, wouldn't this worry you on a purely intellectual level?

[Goat1977fu]

"Learn the real meaning of words" was exactly the point of my original statement. You may recall my first words to you were "Please consult your dictionary". Tfoot's point (and mine, btw) is that so many people (particularly conservatives) like to demonize communism and socialism while pretending that our system is perfect and our own hands are spotless. This is not an advocation for socialism. It's simply pointing out a bit of reality that some people choose to ignore.

[InsanePoet314]

It was the greatest industrial growth, the industry owners being those whom benefited. The average worker had horrible standards of living and far longer hours for far worse pay.

[OneClownShoe]

I wish that more people would think like us, Mr. Thunderf00t. People must open their eyes and minds to the truth. Keep up the great work!

[mikezephyr]

there is no nuance with conservatism.

[DillonX]

Thunderf00t rules!!!

[ANGLEBOOT]

if your vidoes are being flagged, it just means people don't like what you have to say.

If you don't like it, make videos people like.

[illuzion30]

He does make videos people like. I like them.

[ANGLEBOOT]

Only problem is, there are more that don't.

[illuzion30]

Mob rules, eh?

That's right up there with might makes right.

[ANGLEBOOT]

Humm so is that how Obama become president? The mob ruled.

[illuzion30]

Pretty much.

Country full of idiots.

[tribidemp]

By that logic that is how every president was awarded the office. Well, with the exception of the first term of W. He was appointed by the Supreme Court.

[ANGLEBOOT]

lOL he won the election but was contested by the loser, the loser wanted the Supreme Court to make a ruling. And were the losers again.

that pissed the DEM's off so bad, they are now so willing to destroy the nation but the worlds economy as well.

[tribidemp]

"if your vidoes are being flagged, it just means people don't like what you have to say."

That is not accurate. If someone doesn't like the message of the videographer, then they have the opportunity to state their displeasure by voting thumbs down. The point of the flagging campaigns is to make it more difficult for the videos to be seen. It is the coward's way to censor.

[ANGLEBOOT]

The thumbs are for the comments not the over all video. Or the subject matter of the video. Then even with that, not all videos give you the chance to give a thunbs up or down on the comments.

[tribidemp]

"The thumbs are for the comments not the over all video."

That is true, and my mistake. What I intended to write is that the rating system (stars) are available for the viewer to state their opinion of the video. Flagging still is the cowards way to censor.

[ANGLEBOOT]

Do you know how long it would take if someone upload raw porn, to be taken down?

yes to people that spend the time to upload a video to find it was taken down a day later can make one upset.

but think at what made them to flag to it in the first place. Some that are whining have done it to others, now that that it has happen to them they whine.

[tribidemp]

Provode an example.

[eslake]

Logic stop here...

If you're for democracy, and fighting a communist country...

Do you side with the communists and fight against the side representing your beliefs?

Than how can you claim the Civil war was primarily about slavery when both sides had states both Pro-slavery, and Abolitionist?

It contradicts the simplest of logic.

[Erajormaa]

It's good that people spread TF:s videos around by mirroring them... But it's rather annoying to see 6 same videos in my subscriptions box at the front page x)

[aynard]

OWNED!!! :) Great video, very well said.

[SapientiaEtFortuna]

Dude, why do you bother with that fuckin looser? Seems like a waste of time.

[CyberSword13]

Holy shiiiiiiiiittt...

That was... Remarkable.

[SplinterInYourEye]

I almost just want to pick a fight with thunderfoot so i can see his epic video kicking my ass. I never get tired of these.

[raynelycan]

This would probably be the reason I don't go around pissing of Thunderf00t.

Though, it probably be epic to be the recipient of said rage.

[DillonX]

Thunderf00t shouldn't go on the attack against HTWW.

It's like a heavyweight fighting a featherweight...so unfair.

[AtheistChase]

Epic Justice.

Nobody is proud.

[drfarenheight]

i wouldn,t trust howtheworldworks as far as i could throw him!!

[boony68]

Freethinker....Do I understand you correctly ?

You actually advocate slavery ?

[FFreeThinker]

Yes, of course, boony, I advocate slavery, stoning to death, and all the other cruelties that are described in the Bible. :)

Honestly, don't you understand the content of the video? Neither I nor Thunderf00t advocate slavery!

[boony68]

My apologies for misunderstanding.

[DennyMclain2008]

don't you twerps have anything better to do than play youtube drama queens?

[OpineTime]

Do you?

[jeremiahdrigg]

They did not pick this fight. The "christian" right-wingers on here are pissed at these guys and keep trying to get their accounts banned by flagging and making false copyright claims. It is a team of them that are trying to quite their message. Pretty sad huh?

[DennyMclain2008]

quiet*

[Astralnaut]

2:33 I really like this part of the video a lot. It gave me pleasure in the way this was pointed out and displayed.

[abortabraham]

mirrored and annotated on my page.

[Thereminator101]

"The problem with Socialism is that sooner or later you run out of Other Peoples Money" - Margaret Thacther

[abortabraham]

the problem with railing against socialism 24/7 is that you mischaracterize it as a monetary statist system only. the great part about capitalism is that you never run out of other people's money, even when you run out of other people's money. see, not hard.

[mikeJRthe2nd]

"People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do." - Isaac Asimov

[RandyLayhea]

Wow, ThunderfOOt made a really good vid. Excellent work.5*and fav.

[asuirth]

mirroring as well =)

[FallenAngel0fDoom]

^Mirroring.

[dackjaniels555]

LMAO! There are over 100 copys of this on youtube already!

Anyway good job mirroring it, This twat needs to be exposed.

search for "Mirror For Epic Justice" and you get a lot of copys of this video.

[Thereminator101]

Unlike TF's atheist and science Vids,this is about TF's suport for a socialist world and distane for free-Interprise(that would be individual freedom).So even if you hate HTWW's,lets not lose track of the main issue.Both TF and HTWW are Biased by their emotionally polarized perspectives and that is the greatest reason for strife in this world.I have no need for either of them.

[ahdkaw]

5 starred every mirror and original.

[stenchinator]

CrazyDragon95, the user that admitted to flagging in the video, doesn't seem to have channel...did he delete his acct or something?

[abortabraham]

suicide flagger. he died for the cause. too bad he probably has a sock account ready for the next hundred re-uploads.

[empbac]

The scary thing about HTWW is that he has no less expertise than your average politician. The only real difference is that politicians have money and authority. Everyone talks like they understand the world, yet the solutions they come up with go against the natural order of society. Scientists have done more for humanity than any politician. How is it that people think that blindly following someone else's ideas is a good idea? That's called religion, and politicians are just preachers.

[tieInterceptor]

nice answer

[jeffersondong]

how are you actually planning to stop these poeple? (a very genuine question).

[WillSKB88]

Informing people will suffice, I very much doubt f00t would debunk ideas from a person with very few subscribers.

One person cannot change the world, but can encourage others to do so, and he's probably doing more than most people.

[tribidemp]

"...he's probably doing more than most people."

I would agree with that.

[Thunderf00t]

Many thanks for the support ffreethinker!

Stars, fav etc! Much appreciated! :-)

[KerickOrland]

omg bunny is here l0lz

[CarpeOmne]

I'm getting sick of this, thunderf00t should just forget about it. HHWW isn't worth this much effort.

Besides, I see HHWW's point on *some* of the things he says. So it's not like VFX who is 100% full of crap.

[JODQ11]

People take youtube WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too seriously.

[isegoria1]

Possibly, but YouTube is really and extension of a much bigger thing - Real life. Not that YT id real life, but it is a pulse of the much bigger elephant in the room that most avoid.

[WadeLogan]

This is because YouTube is the only place actual intellectual people can voice the truth and refute this crap because any other national way of broadcasting is too scared to allow someone with a brain to dismiss ignorant claims - other than books of course.

[whoarentyou]

too many people take too many things waaaaaaaay too seriously

[abortabraham]

spreading disinformation is a serious offense and insult of intelligence in a place of free-flowing knowledge.

[finnsia]

Youtube is known through out the entire contenent. You don't really understand it's impact, do you?

[abortabraham]

lol f00t getting flagged. it appears butthurt conservatives are making their presence known again. screw howtheworldworks, and all the other propagandameisters and false paradigm pushers.

[Clausfarre]

And propagandameister is based on..? Any specifics?

[hilikus9191]

Many of HTWW sources are dubious in nature. He frequently gets source information from Hot Air which is a conservative blog. Sometimes worse with Michelle Malkin. Typically you get a source from a source from a source which turns out to be some speculation, but unless someone puts time behind looking into the sources, you'd be none the wiser.

[abortabraham]

environmentalists - antihuman bad : private companies dumping waste off the coast of somalia, being surprised by "enviromarxist" pirates, and pretending its efficient cost cutting - free market goodness. BOMB KOREA they can't have modern technology. BOMB IRAN they can't have modern power sources. BOMB dissenters. HTWW is a narrowsighted retard.

[jaycek]

lol +1 just for "butthurt conservatives"

[KaalGeo]

Fuck Howtheworldworks, he is an ignorant capitalist who only cares about his own profits.

[Clausfarre]

Easy there Bresnev.... So your focus is profit? Does that automatically make content unacceptable? You can't trust people who run a business like....tv, radio, newspaper, online media etc...?

[KaalGeo]

It certainly makes your message more unreliable than those who run their channel to educate and contribute opinions. You could make the assertion that PCS2 wants to do that, but if you read between the lines you can see that the only thing he cares about is his own profits, not his message. I mean if preaching about how nice it is to fuck goats was profitable you would see him putting the same amount of effort into that.

[abortabraham]

do you trust the mainstream media? do you think they do "hard hitting" reporting? do you like whats on the radio? do you know what "therealnews" is? nonprofit quality news paid for by donations. it blows msm away. unless you like flashy graphics and erectile dysfunction pills shoved in your face 4 times a day.

[Millymouse343]

first comment(: and rating!