If this is so, then what the man said really is right. There is no trinity accept in paganism. This means that Jehovah is a God, Jesus is a God and the Holy Spirit is a God. They are three separate entities.
if any 1 knows of satan it's muhammad and his followers, satan is a deceiver and a liar just like muslims of today, lying and twisting everything around to fit the quran
@hannahr77 Just to add to your point... ?Gal 1:8 brings out what will happent ones who add to the Word of God. like the quran and the book of mormons. I quoted here
'However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. I think the mormons say that John Smith(?) was given a book from an angel and same w/ the muslims that a book was given to Mohammad. They added to Gods word & it is wrong
I always thought it was Logos as Logic rather than just 'the word', as would have been perfectly acceptable in ancient greek. This would make God Logic, a very Pythagorian philosophy, in fact main-stream Pythagoras.
En arches hen ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton theon kai theos ho logos in the begning was the word and the word was with god and god was the word is a more correct tanslation. Ton theon is in accusative because its the Direct object but then theos is used in the nominative to indicate god is the subjectand then it indicates that god was the word. This is the correct meaning and any muslim taqiyah to try and change this will not convince anybody
Quote continued: of any being other than the true God whom he worshiped." (Harris, Jesus as God, p. 60)
Harris goes on to say,
"The translation `a god' as found in the New World Translation, Jannaris (`Logos' 24, but `a God' on p. 20), and Becker (65, 68, 70: `ein Gott'). The reasons for rejecting this rendering - represented in none of the major English translations of the twentieth century - have been set out in D.3.a (1) above." (Jesus as God, p. 68)
Quote cont: .....But the theological context, viz, John's monotheism, makes this endering of 1:1c impossible, for if a monotheist were speaking of the Deity he himself reverenced, the singular theos could be applied only to the Supreme Being, not to an inferior divine being or emanation as if theos were simply generic. That is, in reference to his own beliefs, a monotheist could not speak of theoi nor could he use theos in the singular (when giving any type of personal description)
It's very sad that those defending Islam can only quote portions of anything that supports their belief by totally destroying the context of anything they touch.
Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, theos en ho logos could be rendered `the Word was a god,' just as, for example, if only grammatical considerations were taken into account, umeis ek tou patros tou diabolou este (John 8:44), could mean `you belong to the father of the devil.
I was just directed to this video, and again, I am shocked at the ignorance of many who call themselves apologists. You have *no idea* what you are talking about. You clearly do not understand Greek, nor do you care about context. I will be posting an expose of this kind of embarrassing material as soon as possible.
So who believes God revealed the Scripture in GREEK?I CERTAINLY DONT-What is being argued here is foolish to me-Arguing what was said by God in Scripture in a language that was not used by God in the 1ST place-R U STUPID OR JUST ARROGANT? What was the original language(Jesus spoke,in which God spoke to him,in)that the Gospel OF JESUS was in? Even if it was Hebrew or Aramaic, the fact is the ORIGINAL IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE-Thus the need 4 The Quran the only unchanged Original Script left from God
REALLY and you know this to be a fact? The fact is we have manuscript dating from way before muhammad the fake prophet had a revelation from satan showed himself as the angle Gabriel.
By the way, This is the SAME scripture used by the Jehovah's Witnesses, it is out of the early Alexandrian translations, and thus pagan in context. This is not the King James version. So, it is a matter of translations. And by the way, THERE IS NO HELL. Totally UNSCRIPTURAL. The Roman Catholic Church INVENTED HELL to scare the Jews and the Moslems to CONVERT to ROMANISM!!! ~ Catalina
So who believes God revealed the Scripture in GREEK?I CERTAINLY DONT.What is being argued here is foolish to me.Arguing what was said by God in Scripture in a language that was not used by God in the 1ST place.R U STUPID OR JUST ARROGANT? What was the original language(Jesus spoke,in which God spoke to him,in)that the Gospel OF JESUS was in? Even if it was Hebrew or Aramaic, the fact is the ORIGINAL IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.Thus the need 4 The Quran the only unchanged original script from God left
U still haven't answered the ? Do u think it was revealed in Greek? What do u mean "its a liar"? I dont understand ur English. Did u just learn how to read & write? Maybe that would explain ur lack of comprehension & diction-The Quran 39:1 Says its from God-Allah. So it is either True or not. Right? So if ur wrong U stand condemned to the eternal fire of Hell. If Im wrong..well, I have a valid excuse with God; as I followed sincerely what I believed to be the Truth from Him. So I'm safe -Not U.
we shall se at the end of the day who is and who ins't saved from the wrath of GOD, and plz tell me why you ppl pray 5 times aday and still go to hell to await allah's judgment what if he forgets abt you?
U really dont have the correct understanding of God or Islam The Religion of God at all-#1 God never forgets anything #2 Muslims dont await judgement in hell. Judgement takes place outside of heaven & hell until u r sentenced to your eternal home of pleasure or pain-#3 We pray 5 x's a day cause we're commanded to do so by our Creator-So we hear & obey w/hopes & prayers that the Grace & Mercy of the Lord will reach us & save us from His wrath & place us in His heaven-It belongs to God- So do we.
no disrespect in any way, but when you say you pray 5 times a day because you are commanded to, how exactly does that work. What exactly are you saying to God, I'm not saying you ask , ask , ask, and just keep asking away for whatever it is you are seeking. Hard to put into words sorry, but I think asking God for anything and everything is not the way to go about it. It is for us to solve our problems, God has given us everything we already need.
U really dont have the correct understanding of God or Islam The Religion of God at all-#1 God never forgets anything #2 Muslims dont await judgement in hell. Judgement takes place outside of heaven & hell until u r sentenced to your eternal home of pleasure or pain-#3 We pray 5 x's a day cause we're commanded to do so by our Creator-So we hear & obey w/hopes & prayers that the Grace & Mercy of the Lord will reach us & save us from His wrath & place us in His heaven-It belongs to God-So do we.
Translations are not merely matters of substituting words, but rather discerning the intent of the writer. That explains why there are SO MANY paranthetical citations in the translations of the Quran.
I wish I can provide verses from the Quraan itelf, but I'm not the right guy for the subject, let alone transulating it.
If you do find a transulation, check a "sora" called "Mariam". If you notice, Mariam is "saint Maria" I think, which is Jesus's mom. In any case, that "sora" contains the story, as we Muslims believe its the true "version" sort of speak.
In any case, myself I found Islam way more logical than Christianty ( no offense ), indeed, human logic is limited, but it can believe that there is one God only, and the religion itself "makes sense" sort of speak. May I invite you to watch this clip: /watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ , Regards
xtianity is the satanical cult buddy. Allah simply mean The God. Pure monotheism. Its what jesus called god. Alaha in aramaic. Watch passion of christ. cheers! satanic cultist. peace!
actually the Gnostics books wich were found in Nag Hamadi, all agree that God is a devil and we are the creation of a devil..
The real god is the inner God (the enlightments of Mind and Soul)..
but then Muslim (though they dont know), have printed the PETER version of Jesus Death in the Quaran.. so the will agree with Peter on Jesus crusifxion story but not with Allah was a devil.. This is the problem with RELIGIONS.
Unless you have a better theory with a credible proof behind it .. Anyway, leaving this aside ... May someone convince me that a human, who came from a vagina, is a God? Thanks. You might want to check the videos of this guy "crosshater" , might be a little harsh guy, but he provides facts with proof, I'd like to see proofs that counter/cancel the facts he mentioned, rather than attacking.
I can't say I believe your bible, as we muslims believe that it has been changed here and here ( not to mention the fact that its written hunders of years after Jesus's death ).
However, reading the script, it says that God became man, and he died? how can a God die ( unless I misunderstood, excuse my English ).
Leaving Holy books aside, \lets get proof by logic mate ( which what makes Islam more favorable to me than Christianity ).May I have a proof on "logic"?
Thanx for your gentle way of asking. Jesus died just to show that he had power to rise from death. He canceled the price of death that started with Adam. So through a man the sin entered by a man the sin/death was defeated .Jesus took the legality of death from devil's hand, which was given by Adam.The bible was not written after jesus. It started with Moses, and many profets continued, and John the apostle wrote the last book, Revelatios.
Well mate (mitube1979), thanks for the info. I thought Moses had one book ( Holy book for Jews? ), Christianity had another one ( Bible ), didnt think they're connected. In any case, we muslims believe that Jesus is human ( and alive, someone'll say how can a human live that long, remmeber than Naoh lived 950 years, human age standards changed.. ). Even our own prophet is human.
habib Medifro,The first five books of bible and many prophets are in the book of jews.The bible is not only conected with Jews, but also probably the garden of Eden was in Iraq and that region. God has a special love for that place . Jesus came as a man and died as a man. He lived 33 years and died crusified to acomplish the prophecy). But ressurected in the third day. He had to die as a man because the sin, entered through a man(Adan) .The short time of life is one of the consequences of sin.
salam aleik, "He canceled the price of death that started with Adam." could u pls explain that vividly? im not too learned with the old testament. does it state in the OT that
"legality of death from devil's hand, which was given by Adam." i dont exactly mean the quotation but the basic message? would b delighted if u can share ur knowledge.
16 ¶ And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;
17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." 4 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die.
5 "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
6 ¶ So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.
salam, u have given me verses that seem to have metaphorical meanings but God knows best. it is still not clear to me where PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE THEY SINNED AGAINST GOD. pls help out here. also did any body ever adress Jesus by the name Emmanuel? if so where is the evidence? thanks
I want not to spend your time, but my answers are too large, and you will understand by reading, from number 1 to number 5 , and I answered all today. Including about the name Imannuel of Jesus. Be patient and read, please. GBY!!
salam, u have given me verses that seem to have metaphorical meanings but God knows best. it is still not clear to me where PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE THEY SINNED AGAINST GOD. pls help out here. also did any body ever adress Jesus by the name Emmanuel? if so where is the evidence? thanks
I will not answer with human logical. But I will answer you with words in which I put my life. It is your choice, believe, or don't. Unless, you will know both sides.
1: God created men to rule over all nature. When Adam disobeyed God he "unplugged" the relationship with God . So, the first death was Spiritual.2: The sin entered in his heart and all nature which was governed by him , suffered, including his long life that he had, because He chosen disobey. Continue 3 in the next
3:After all The man got worst day after day. And God Sent Noah to advise them( this history is known).In spiritual world there are rules, that sin is the same as death( is the reason why Jews( antiquity) used to slaughter lambs to offer meaning"My sin is over this lamb". God teached in the past that the sin is to Him as terrible as the death.
Continuing 4:But the blood of a lamb (animal) was not enough to wash the sin spiritually, because human heart were still the same. Men had to change from inside to out side. And Jesus came. The perfect lamb. The perfect blood. And this is the principal verse explaning Gods love:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
Continuing 5: Jesus Immanuel( O.T):Isaiah(prophet) 7:14 So, the Lord Himself shall give you a sign. Behold, the virgin will conceive and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Immanuel. Immanuel (NT):Matthew 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will call His name Emmanuel," which being interpreted is, God with us.
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be on His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
Philippians 2 5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.-----------------------
Angels, prophets, men,etc.. Don't accept adoration. Jesus accepted. So his is not only son of God. He is GOD. And Only through his name men can obtain salvation.
Don't follow you religion blindly, use your special talent to explore. Prophet jesus is not a god he is a messenger of God, Read Jonh 17:3 and the book of numbers 23:19. Porphet Jesus son of mariam.
OK! do you like Jonh? So, check out what he says:1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. --also:1 John 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
(Remember) when the angels said: "O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allah gives you the glad tidings of a Word ["Be!" - and he was! i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)] from Him, his name will be the Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allah."
Brother, prophet jesus is not a god. Read Jonh 17:3 and the book of numbers 23:19. Donot follow the teaching of Paul and Pagan people. Explore brother explore your bible
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The introduction of Christianity, its adoption as the official religion of the Roman Empire, & its subsequent spread over Europe and parts of the Middle East during the Middle Ages tended to improve the slaves' conditions but did not eliminate the practice of slavery. After the fall of Rome, during the barbarian invasions that occurred at various times between the 5th and 10th centuries, the ancient institution of slavery was transformed into the generally less binding system known as serfdom.
Constantine unified a tottering empire, reorganized the Roman state, and set the stage for the final victory of Christianity at the end of the 4th century. Many modern scholars accept the sincerity of his religious conviction. His conversion was a gradual process; at first he probably associated Christ with the victorious Sun god. By the time of the Council of Nicaea (325), however, he was completely Christian, but still tolerated PAGANISM among his subjects.
All Christian beleive that the bible is tue word of God. Did you ever read the statement of Luc? If not then read it Luc 1:2-4. Why Christian people worship prophet Jesus as your god since he never ask any one to worship him. Read Jn 17:3. And why you prostrate yourself infront of piece of wood? Is that rwiten in the bible? read Exo 20:3-6, Lev 26:1, Due 4:16,23,25, 5:8-9. If you Christian are religious person, why you din't follow the teaching of prohpet Jesus to worship one God alone. Jn 17:3
You are not religious person but you follow the teaching of Jesus Christ...strange statement. May be you are Jews the killer of Jesus Christ as what Christian belief. If you're following the teaching of Jesus Christ then you should wear one piece of garment and hung yourself on the cross.
If you really knows everything about Jesus, WHERE IS JESUS CRHIST AT THE AGE OF 12 TO 30? IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEN BETTER FOR YOU NOT TO REPLY. YOU ARE WAISTING MY TIME.
JESUS when HE turn 12 HE like every good Jew at that time went to school, and after that HE helped HIS father in HIS shop and I don't need to know anything but the birth, HIS death and resurrection, other than this I need to know nothing else, and tell me my friend where according your book was JESUS CHRIST born where did HE die? Where were HIS parents born and from which tribes?
I know I only wanted to se if "visit" knew where it's recorded in the quran, I 'm so sick and tired of muslims telling me abt YESHUA ben Yosef, ben YHVH, and also it looks like every muslim is an expect on the Bible, as if we the Christians are completely ignorant of the Bible like they themselves are abt the quran
I mailed you a message to your site. Write back to me so I can prove to you who YEHOSHUA really is...it is very plain when you read precept upon precept. Toda Raba! ~ Catalina
WAIT! Stop right here! The "JEWS" did NOT, I repeat, did NOT send YEHOSUA BEN YUSEF to the CROSS...if you knew the scriptures He said "I CAME TO LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR ALL MANKIND" WE ALL HAVE THIS BLOOD ON OUR HANDS. Why do you think Yohanan (John) said "Behold the LAMB of GOD who takes away the SINS of this world?" You must read from precept to precept! ~ Catalina
Blessed be the Creator of the Universe, Savior of ALL MANKIND!
Read every scriptures and do not choose only in favor of what you believe. Yes, Jesus send by the Creator to deliver the words of God. Jesus is the lamp of God because He is the messenger of God to all mankind to enlighten every human on this earth, to worship only one God ALONE and He never ever ask anyone to worship Him as god and creator. Read Jonh 17:3
Anyone who trusts in him is acquitted; anyone who refuses to trust him has long since been under the death sentence without knowing it. And why? Because of that person's failure to believe in the one-of-a-kind Son of God when introduced to him.
And yes I still do believe that by believing in JESUS CHRIST I go to heaven because HE died so that I could go free from the wrath of GOD on judgment day, GOD don't let sinners into heaven
He [Angel Gabriel] said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy." She (Mary) said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?" He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.'"
& for their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the msgr of Allah." & they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but another was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. & they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him (i.e. body and soul) to Himself and he is in the heaven. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. Q4:157-158
Christian got only one book to follow "THE BIBLE" how comes that you are not in the same faith? Other Christian worship Our prophe (Jesus) as their god. Other Christian believe that Prophet Eesa is the son of God. Other christian they don't know who is their god. Other Christian prostrate infront of a piece of wood. Is these all writen in the bible?
If you are tired, you will never find the right fath to paradise. May God forgive you
hmm let me se I don't know of any Christian believing in Eesa as the SON OF GOD who is Eesa. And could you by chance name any of the groups you have named like, Eesa is not mention in the Bible and as for ppl don't know who is their GOD well how do you know? And for the ppl kneeling in front of Miriyam the mother of JESUS, it's not in the Bible per se. And if and when I am tired I will pray to my LORD and SAVIOUR HE will sustain me and of course HE has already forgiven me HE loves me.
You failed to supply good aswer to my questions because you realy don't of what Christianity is. The origin of prophet Jesus was from arab countries and therefore his original name is Eesa and not Jesus. The name Jesus was came from Greek. (fabricated name) If you realy love prophet Eesa, you should follow of what He commanded to you. Read Jonh 14:15-16, Jonh 15:26-27, Jonh 16:5-8,Ezikiel 18:19-21, Jonh 16:13-14 and Deuteronomeo18:18
So you a muslim being a CHRIST hater tell me I don't know what Christianity is this is a joke a sick one I might say, so who is this Eesa you're talking abt?
I gave you a clear verses from your book (bible) but eyes remaind blind. Support your statement with verses from your book and do not speak by your own opinion. roothless opinion. Bible was writen 175 years after Jesus and not even one like you during His Time.
If you realy love Prophet Eesa (Jesus) you must follow his command to accept the last messenger (Jonh 14:15-16)
There are so many writen order in the bible but none of you follows the complete order. The bible said in Exodo, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy. "DO NOT WORSHIP ANY CREATION" "DO NOT WORSHIP IDOLS BESIDE ME" Roman Chatolics are the most idoloters ever in this world. Shame to them they will never find the right fath to paradise.
there is not last messenger it stoped with YESHUA, muhammad is a false prophet according to YESHUA, HE never said there would any one after HIM, if there would be HE would had said so
I gave you some clear verses from your book (bible) but your eyes remaind blind. Support your statement with verses from your book and do not speak by your own opinion. roothless opinion. Bible was writen 175 years after Jesus and not even one like you during His Time. We love propet Jesus and we place him in a very respected situation, not like waht you believe that He is nailed on the cross. You only follow PAGAN TEACHING and not the teaching of prophet Jesus
You still believe that Jesus Christ crucifixion save the sins of all human. This kind of belief is roothless and baseless. Jesus Christ prayed in getsemany and He ask God to save Him. Read Mt. 26:39, Mc. 14:32-42 and Lc. 22:39-46. and read the response of in Hebrew 5:7. Read your bible VERY CAREFULY and do not choose only you want to read to convince yourself. May God forgive you
READ THESE AND OPEN YOUR MIND FOR YOUR SOUL. Deutoronomy 18:18, Jonh 14:15-16, Jonh 15:26-27, Jonh 16:5-8, Jonh 16:13-14 and read this Ezikiel 18:19-21. I DO NOT WANT ANY REPLY FROM YOU. THE BEST WAY YOU DO IS TO FIX YOUR ONW SINS BECAUSE JESUS NEVER SAVE YOUR SINS HE ONLY DELIVER THE WORDS OF GOD AND HE IS NOT A GOD.
16-18"This is how much God loved the world: He gave his Son, his one and only Son. And this is why: so that no one need be destroyed; by believing in him, anyone can have a whole and lasting life. God didn't go to all the trouble of sending his Son merely to point an accusing finger, telling the world how bad it was. He came to help, to put the world right again.
Jesus Christ was NOT crucified NOR killed by any one. Why you Christian placed Jesus Christ in a very shameful situation by puting him on the coss wearing one piece of garment? Is that your way to respect and love Prophet Jesus? Read Luc 22:42 and Hebrew 5:7.
What about trinity? do you aware on this? 3 in 1 mmmm strange belief.
We love Jesus Christ, thats why we placed him in a very respectful situation. Open your Mind. Do not follow pagan teaching. Good luck
of course JESUS was crucified, isa on the other hand was not crucified but the again his a fake messiah, and we do not put JESUS in a shameful sitiuation HE knew that HE would be crucified and that's the reason HE came to this earth to be just that, and who is luc?
Hebrews 12:2
2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
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No, for example the book of Daniel tells us of various prophecies concerning world empires (Dan Chapter 7 & 8). Daniel got his wisdom from a God in the heavens who is the revealer of secrets, Jehovah God (Daniel 2:28). This prophet lived before Jesus. He foretold that Alexander the Great (Greece) ( Dan 8:21) would conqure the previous existing empire, Medo Persia, but greece eventually fell to Rome, which he also foretold (Dan 7:7). Did not Jesus live under Roman rulership? Tiberius Ceasear..
..Tiberus Ceasar was emperor when Jesus three and a half year ministry took place. When Daniel lived, Babylon was the worlds strongest empire and, the book of Daniel, was written before Jesus was born...not hundreds of years after Jesus died. Now regarding the first ENGLISH TRANSLATION, the bible was RENDERED in ENGLISH AFTER JESUS DEATH. when Jesus lived the bible was written in Hebrew..and during the time Jesus lived Greek because GREECE WAS A WORLD EMPIRE AND THEIR LANGUAGE BECAME UNIVERSAL
Just for the record, The old testament of the bible was written before Jesus was born. The new testament was written during and after Jesus. God's name is Jehovah. The divine name is written on many artifacts dating back to ancient days, in Hebrew, YHWH. See the Tetragrammaton. Nah, i'll stick to the Bible
Surah 3:77 (As for) those who take a small price for the covenant of Allah and their own oaths-- surely they shall have no portion in the hereafter, and Allah will not speak to them, nor will He look upon them on the day of resurrection nor will He purify them, and they shall have a painful chastisement.
Surah 3.78 Most surely there is a party amongst those who distort the Book with their tongue that you may consider it to be (a part) of the Book, and they say, It is from Allah, while it is not from Allah, and they tell a lie against Allah whilst they know.
And woe to those who write book with their own hand and then say: This is from Allah The traffic with it for a miserable price! So woe to them for what their hands do write, and woe to them for what they earn heir by.
"And if anyone contends with the Messenger even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of Faith, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell - what an evil destination!" Qur'an, 4:115
lol says it their the son become flesh not the Father
clevelandshero23 1 year ago
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jay2tails 1 year ago
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If this is so, then what the man said really is right. There is no trinity accept in paganism. This means that Jehovah is a God, Jesus is a God and the Holy Spirit is a God. They are three separate entities.
jay2tails 1 year ago
if any 1 knows of satan it's muhammad and his followers, satan is a deceiver and a liar just like muslims of today, lying and twisting everything around to fit the quran
hannahr77 1 year ago
@hannahr77 Just to add to your point... ?Gal 1:8 brings out what will happent ones who add to the Word of God. like the quran and the book of mormons. I quoted here
'However, even if we or an angel out of heaven were to declare to YOU as good news something beyond what we declared to YOU as good news, let him be accursed. I think the mormons say that John Smith(?) was given a book from an angel and same w/ the muslims that a book was given to Mohammad. They added to Gods word & it is wrong
shihtzufizzers 1 year ago
I always thought it was Logos as Logic rather than just 'the word', as would have been perfectly acceptable in ancient greek. This would make God Logic, a very Pythagorian philosophy, in fact main-stream Pythagoras.
gamesbok 1 year ago
En arches hen ho logos kai ho logos en pros ton theon kai theos ho logos in the begning was the word and the word was with god and god was the word is a more correct tanslation. Ton theon is in accusative because its the Direct object but then theos is used in the nominative to indicate god is the subjectand then it indicates that god was the word. This is the correct meaning and any muslim taqiyah to try and change this will not convince anybody
DrakeBobson01 2 years ago
Quote continued: of any being other than the true God whom he worshiped." (Harris, Jesus as God, p. 60)
Harris goes on to say,
"The translation `a god' as found in the New World Translation, Jannaris (`Logos' 24, but `a God' on p. 20), and Becker (65, 68, 70: `ein Gott'). The reasons for rejecting this rendering - represented in none of the major English translations of the twentieth century - have been set out in D.3.a (1) above." (Jesus as God, p. 68)
This is why Islam can't be trusted.
MirroringTruth 2 years ago
Quote cont: .....But the theological context, viz, John's monotheism, makes this endering of 1:1c impossible, for if a monotheist were speaking of the Deity he himself reverenced, the singular theos could be applied only to the Supreme Being, not to an inferior divine being or emanation as if theos were simply generic. That is, in reference to his own beliefs, a monotheist could not speak of theoi nor could he use theos in the singular (when giving any type of personal description)
To be cont:
MirroringTruth 2 years ago
It's very sad that those defending Islam can only quote portions of anything that supports their belief by totally destroying the context of anything they touch.
Continue the quote at 2:26 :
Accordingly, from the point of view of grammar alone, theos en ho logos could be rendered `the Word was a god,' just as, for example, if only grammatical considerations were taken into account, umeis ek tou patros tou diabolou este (John 8:44), could mean `you belong to the father of the devil.
To be cont:
MirroringTruth 2 years ago
Re-post this and take out whatever they're using as an excuse to cut the audio.
jaekent 2 years ago
What the hell? They took out the sound!
faro0485 2 years ago
I was just directed to this video, and again, I am shocked at the ignorance of many who call themselves apologists. You have *no idea* what you are talking about. You clearly do not understand Greek, nor do you care about context. I will be posting an expose of this kind of embarrassing material as soon as possible.
James White
DrOakley1689 3 years ago 4
@DrOakley1689
Where is the vid that you supposedly made in response to this.
IslamStudios 1 year ago
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tudungsenduk 3 years ago
IslamStudios, watch this clip and you might learn the truth. Jehovahs Witnesses & John 1:1- Is Jesus God or a god?
There are many more!
hansrosbach 3 years ago
hahahaha so sick.. thx man
KingHourani 3 years ago
So who believes God revealed the Scripture in GREEK?I CERTAINLY DONT-What is being argued here is foolish to me-Arguing what was said by God in Scripture in a language that was not used by God in the 1ST place-R U STUPID OR JUST ARROGANT? What was the original language(Jesus spoke,in which God spoke to him,in)that the Gospel OF JESUS was in? Even if it was Hebrew or Aramaic, the fact is the ORIGINAL IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE-Thus the need 4 The Quran the only unchanged Original Script left from God
PrinceofTruth 3 years ago
pr
the fact is the ORIGINAL IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE"
REALLY and you know this to be a fact? The fact is we have manuscript dating from way before muhammad the fake prophet had a revelation from satan showed himself as the angle Gabriel.
Tell me what language does your god speak?
hannahr77 3 years ago
By the way, This is the SAME scripture used by the Jehovah's Witnesses, it is out of the early Alexandrian translations, and thus pagan in context. This is not the King James version. So, it is a matter of translations. And by the way, THERE IS NO HELL. Totally UNSCRIPTURAL. The Roman Catholic Church INVENTED HELL to scare the Jews and the Moslems to CONVERT to ROMANISM!!! ~ Catalina
Catalina1956 3 years ago
cat
There is no hell really? Then there is no beaven either
hannahr77 3 years ago
So who believes God revealed the Scripture in GREEK?I CERTAINLY DONT.What is being argued here is foolish to me.Arguing what was said by God in Scripture in a language that was not used by God in the 1ST place.R U STUPID OR JUST ARROGANT? What was the original language(Jesus spoke,in which God spoke to him,in)that the Gospel OF JESUS was in? Even if it was Hebrew or Aramaic, the fact is the ORIGINAL IS NO LONGER AVAILABLE.Thus the need 4 The Quran the only unchanged original script from God left
PrinceofTruth 3 years ago
pri
so what your saying that GOD dosen't speak any other language than arabic? hmmm what a funny little god you have only speaks arabic
hannahr77 3 years ago
prince
it was not arabic that's for sure, and stop lying abt the quran being from allah it's a liar and has been debunked and refuted over and over again
hannahr77 3 years ago
U still haven't answered the ? Do u think it was revealed in Greek? What do u mean "its a liar"? I dont understand ur English. Did u just learn how to read & write? Maybe that would explain ur lack of comprehension & diction-The Quran 39:1 Says its from God-Allah. So it is either True or not. Right? So if ur wrong U stand condemned to the eternal fire of Hell. If Im wrong..well, I have a valid excuse with God; as I followed sincerely what I believed to be the Truth from Him. So I'm safe -Not U.
PrinceofTruth 3 years ago
pr
we shall se at the end of the day who is and who ins't saved from the wrath of GOD, and plz tell me why you ppl pray 5 times aday and still go to hell to await allah's judgment what if he forgets abt you?
hannahr77 3 years ago
U really dont have the correct understanding of God or Islam The Religion of God at all-#1 God never forgets anything #2 Muslims dont await judgement in hell. Judgement takes place outside of heaven & hell until u r sentenced to your eternal home of pleasure or pain-#3 We pray 5 x's a day cause we're commanded to do so by our Creator-So we hear & obey w/hopes & prayers that the Grace & Mercy of the Lord will reach us & save us from His wrath & place us in His heaven-It belongs to God- So do we.
PrinceofTruth 3 years ago 3
no disrespect in any way, but when you say you pray 5 times a day because you are commanded to, how exactly does that work. What exactly are you saying to God, I'm not saying you ask , ask , ask, and just keep asking away for whatever it is you are seeking. Hard to put into words sorry, but I think asking God for anything and everything is not the way to go about it. It is for us to solve our problems, God has given us everything we already need.
ricenbeans82 2 years ago
U really dont have the correct understanding of God or Islam The Religion of God at all-#1 God never forgets anything #2 Muslims dont await judgement in hell. Judgement takes place outside of heaven & hell until u r sentenced to your eternal home of pleasure or pain-#3 We pray 5 x's a day cause we're commanded to do so by our Creator-So we hear & obey w/hopes & prayers that the Grace & Mercy of the Lord will reach us & save us from His wrath & place us in His heaven-It belongs to God-So do we.
PrinceofTruth 3 years ago
You have no knowlege of Greek-so please do not expose your ignorance.
What DrOakley way saying is that you could not equate ALL of logos with ALL of theos.
However logos is still part of theos-just not the whole thing.
facilisdescenus 3 years ago
john is the prophet yahyah and yahyah is the son of the prophet zackariya.
h7aboob 3 years ago
Translations are not merely matters of substituting words, but rather discerning the intent of the writer. That explains why there are SO MANY paranthetical citations in the translations of the Quran.
LothairLorraine 3 years ago
JOHN 1:1 was written and it is here to stay, no power on earth can change that.
stcnncomes 3 years ago
this muslims dont know greek and deedat didnt either
ChrestusVictor 3 years ago
mitube1979, thanks for the replies.
I wish I can provide verses from the Quraan itelf, but I'm not the right guy for the subject, let alone transulating it.
If you do find a transulation, check a "sora" called "Mariam". If you notice, Mariam is "saint Maria" I think, which is Jesus's mom. In any case, that "sora" contains the story, as we Muslims believe its the true "version" sort of speak.
Regards,
Medifro 3 years ago
In any case, myself I found Islam way more logical than Christianty ( no offense ), indeed, human logic is limited, but it can believe that there is one God only, and the religion itself "makes sense" sort of speak. May I invite you to watch this clip: /watch?v=p2Clk5lNUdQ , Regards
Medifro 3 years ago
lol shamu
Arab7Playa 4 years ago
Pure ownage.
BonsaiSky 4 years ago
These do sound very much like the arguments put forth by Jehovah's Witnesses, especially concerning the Coptic translation of John 1:1.
Jpangyarihan 4 years ago
muslims are in for a shock when they know that acutally allah is satan in the Bible . Read Peter .
stcnncomes 4 years ago
xtianity is the satanical cult buddy. Allah simply mean The God. Pure monotheism. Its what jesus called god. Alaha in aramaic. Watch passion of christ. cheers! satanic cultist. peace!
omerlives 4 years ago
You will be in shock once Islam spreads through out the USA.
mustafagtgt 4 years ago 2
And how it is not ture the other way? LOL! I love brain dead zealots. Its so much fun to rub their face!
ovaisreza 4 years ago
actually the Gnostics books wich were found in Nag Hamadi, all agree that God is a devil and we are the creation of a devil..
The real god is the inner God (the enlightments of Mind and Soul)..
but then Muslim (though they dont know), have printed the PETER version of Jesus Death in the Quaran.. so the will agree with Peter on Jesus crusifxion story but not with Allah was a devil.. This is the problem with RELIGIONS.
WorldOfIslam07 4 years ago
HUH!?..
willhedoright 3 years ago
@ stcnncomes:
You are in for a shock when you know that Allah is just one of the names of God, who is the one being worshipped by Christians, Muslims and Jews.
Hey, don't take my word for it. Ask any Arab-Christian, he'll tell you. Unless the God of Arab-Christians is called Satan in Bible, then, hmmmmm ....
For the record, Bible was written hunderds of years after Jesus's death, plus with that many versions, nah,I'll stick to Quraan.
Medifro 4 years ago 2
"Bible was written hunderds of years after Jesus's death, plus with that many versions" You're just repeating what you've heard, aren't you?
Jpangyarihan 4 years ago
unless you have another theory, with credible source behind it .. yeah, I', just repeating what I've heard ..
Leaving this aside,
Medifro 4 years ago 2
@Jpangyarihan:
Unless you have a better theory with a credible proof behind it .. Anyway, leaving this aside ... May someone convince me that a human, who came from a vagina, is a God? Thanks. You might want to check the videos of this guy "crosshater" , might be a little harsh guy, but he provides facts with proof, I'd like to see proofs that counter/cancel the facts he mentioned, rather than attacking.
Medifro 4 years ago 2
Answer in bible about How and why Jesus became a man:
Philippians 2
5 For let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, and took upon Himself the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men.
8 And being found in fashion as a man, He humbled Himself and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross.
mitube1979 3 years ago
mitube1979, thanks:
I can't say I believe your bible, as we muslims believe that it has been changed here and here ( not to mention the fact that its written hunders of years after Jesus's death ).
However, reading the script, it says that God became man, and he died? how can a God die ( unless I misunderstood, excuse my English ).
Leaving Holy books aside, \lets get proof by logic mate ( which what makes Islam more favorable to me than Christianity ).May I have a proof on "logic"?
Medifro 3 years ago
Thanx for your gentle way of asking. Jesus died just to show that he had power to rise from death. He canceled the price of death that started with Adam. So through a man the sin entered by a man the sin/death was defeated .Jesus took the legality of death from devil's hand, which was given by Adam.The bible was not written after jesus. It started with Moses, and many profets continued, and John the apostle wrote the last book, Revelatios.
mitube1979 3 years ago
About logical, the words about Jesus in Quran are more difficult to understand than in the bible. We cannot put human logical besides God's logical.
1 Corinthians 3:19 For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written, "He catches the wise in their own craftiness";
GBY!!
mitube1979 3 years ago
Well mate (mitube1979), thanks for the info. I thought Moses had one book ( Holy book for Jews? ), Christianity had another one ( Bible ), didnt think they're connected. In any case, we muslims believe that Jesus is human ( and alive, someone'll say how can a human live that long, remmeber than Naoh lived 950 years, human age standards changed.. ). Even our own prophet is human.
Medifro 3 years ago
habib Medifro,The first five books of bible and many prophets are in the book of jews.The bible is not only conected with Jews, but also probably the garden of Eden was in Iraq and that region. God has a special love for that place . Jesus came as a man and died as a man. He lived 33 years and died crusified to acomplish the prophecy). But ressurected in the third day. He had to die as a man because the sin, entered through a man(Adan) .The short time of life is one of the consequences of sin.
mitube1979 3 years ago
The answer about The short 'lifetime of men.
Genesis( the fist book of Bible)
3 ¶ And the LORD said, "My Spirit shall not strive with man forever, for he is indeed flesh; yet his days shall be one hundred and twenty years."
mitube1979 3 years ago
salam aleik, "He canceled the price of death that started with Adam." could u pls explain that vividly? im not too learned with the old testament. does it state in the OT that
"legality of death from devil's hand, which was given by Adam." i dont exactly mean the quotation but the basic message? would b delighted if u can share ur knowledge.
thanks
Oscar Al-Jinn
traitor323 3 years ago
Aleikon salam, habib traitor323!
Genisis 3:
16 ¶ And the LORD God commanded the man, saying, "Of every tree of the garden you may freely eat;
17 "but of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil you shall not eat, for in the day that you eat of it you shall surely die." 4 Then the serpent said to the woman, "You will not surely die.
5 "For God knows that in the day you eat of it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil."
mitube1979 3 years ago
(Continuation:)
6 ¶ So when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree desirable to make one wise, she took of its fruit and ate. She also gave to her husband with her, and he ate.
mitube1979 3 years ago
(continuation 2)
About the "price" of death: the Bible says:
I corinthians 15:
21 For since by man came death, by Man also came the resurrection of the dead.
22 For as in Adam all die, even so in Christ all shall be made alive.
mitube1979 3 years ago
salam, u have given me verses that seem to have metaphorical meanings but God knows best. it is still not clear to me where PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE THEY SINNED AGAINST GOD. pls help out here. also did any body ever adress Jesus by the name Emmanuel? if so where is the evidence? thanks
traitor323 3 years ago
I want not to spend your time, but my answers are too large, and you will understand by reading, from number 1 to number 5 , and I answered all today. Including about the name Imannuel of Jesus. Be patient and read, please. GBY!!
mitube1979 3 years ago
salam, u have given me verses that seem to have metaphorical meanings but God knows best. it is still not clear to me where PEOPLE DIED BECAUSE THEY SINNED AGAINST GOD. pls help out here. also did any body ever adress Jesus by the name Emmanuel? if so where is the evidence? thanks
traitor323 3 years ago
I will not answer with human logical. But I will answer you with words in which I put my life. It is your choice, believe, or don't. Unless, you will know both sides.
1: God created men to rule over all nature. When Adam disobeyed God he "unplugged" the relationship with God . So, the first death was Spiritual.2: The sin entered in his heart and all nature which was governed by him , suffered, including his long life that he had, because He chosen disobey. Continue 3 in the next
mitube1979 3 years ago
3:After all The man got worst day after day. And God Sent Noah to advise them( this history is known).In spiritual world there are rules, that sin is the same as death( is the reason why Jews( antiquity) used to slaughter lambs to offer meaning"My sin is over this lamb". God teached in the past that the sin is to Him as terrible as the death.
mitube1979 3 years ago
Continuing 4:But the blood of a lamb (animal) was not enough to wash the sin spiritually, because human heart were still the same. Men had to change from inside to out side. And Jesus came. The perfect lamb. The perfect blood. And this is the principal verse explaning Gods love:16 For God so loved the world that He gave His only-begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.
mitube1979 3 years ago
Continuing 5: Jesus Immanuel( O.T):Isaiah(prophet) 7:14 So, the Lord Himself shall give you a sign. Behold, the virgin will conceive and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call His name Immanuel. Immanuel (NT):Matthew 1:23 "Behold, the virgin shall conceive in her womb, and will bear a son. And they will call His name Emmanuel," which being interpreted is, God with us.
mitube1979 3 years ago
Other way that Jesus is called by prophet:
Isaiah 9:6 For to us a Child is born, to us a Son is given; and the government shall be on His shoulder; and His name shall be called Wonderful, Counselor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.
mitube1979 3 years ago
Please read exodo 4:22, II Samuel 7:13-14, Crnica 22:10, Mathew 5:45,48, II Cor 6:18, Luc 3:38 Hebrew 7:3
jqt2007 3 years ago
I saw every books in bible that you told me to read. But wath is the point that you want me to see. it is not clear to me. please,explain me.
mitube1979 3 years ago
Just want to remind you that prophet jesus is not a son of God. The example of jesus (pbuh) is Adam and Eve.
We are all son of God. Please read exodo 4:22, II Samuel 7:13-14, Crnica 22:10, Mathew 5:45,48, II Cor 6:18, Luc 3:38 Hebrew 7:3
jqt2007 3 years ago
Philippians 2 5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus,
6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God,
7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.-----------------------
Angels, prophets, men,etc.. Don't accept adoration. Jesus accepted. So his is not only son of God. He is GOD. And Only through his name men can obtain salvation.
mitube1979 3 years ago
Don't follow you religion blindly, use your special talent to explore. Prophet jesus is not a god he is a messenger of God, Read Jonh 17:3 and the book of numbers 23:19. Porphet Jesus son of mariam.
jibreelqt 3 years ago
I dont have special talent. The only talent that I have was given By Jesus. His holy spirit. I am Just a Jar of Clay.
mitube1979 3 years ago
OK! do you like Jonh? So, check out what he says:1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he who denies that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist who denies the Father and the Son. --also:1 John 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, that you may know that you have eternal life, and that you may continue to believe in the name of the Son of God.
mitube1979 3 years ago
mitube1979.......
Qur'an Surah 3:45
(Remember) when the angels said: "O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allah gives you the glad tidings of a Word ["Be!" - and he was! i.e. 'Iesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam (Mary)] from Him, his name will be the Messiah 'Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam (Mary), held in honour in this world and in the Hereafter, and will be one of those who are near to Allah."
jibreelqt 3 years ago
As the only authority about Mouhamed is the Qur'an( because bible nor even mentions him)
The only authority about Jesus is the bible.
A don't believe in Jesus that is discribed in Qur'an, or By Alan Kardec, or By Siddhartha Gautama.
mitube1979 3 years ago
Brother, prophet jesus is not a god. Read Jonh 17:3 and the book of numbers 23:19. Donot follow the teaching of Paul and Pagan people. Explore brother explore your bible
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Kite207 3 years ago
The introduction of Christianity, its adoption as the official religion of the Roman Empire, & its subsequent spread over Europe and parts of the Middle East during the Middle Ages tended to improve the slaves' conditions but did not eliminate the practice of slavery. After the fall of Rome, during the barbarian invasions that occurred at various times between the 5th and 10th centuries, the ancient institution of slavery was transformed into the generally less binding system known as serfdom.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
This is not Christianism. This is Catholicism.Tottaly diferent!
mitube1979 3 years ago
Constantine unified a tottering empire, reorganized the Roman state, and set the stage for the final victory of Christianity at the end of the 4th century. Many modern scholars accept the sincerity of his religious conviction. His conversion was a gradual process; at first he probably associated Christ with the victorious Sun god. By the time of the Council of Nicaea (325), however, he was completely Christian, but still tolerated PAGANISM among his subjects.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
Prophet Jesus never mention in the old testament. The new testament came into exist for so many years after Jesus.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vis
have you ever read the O.T? And produce your proof abt the N.T
hannahr77 3 years ago
All Christian beleive that the bible is tue word of God. Did you ever read the statement of Luc? If not then read it Luc 1:2-4. Why Christian people worship prophet Jesus as your god since he never ask any one to worship him. Read Jn 17:3. And why you prostrate yourself infront of piece of wood? Is that rwiten in the bible? read Exo 20:3-6, Lev 26:1, Due 4:16,23,25, 5:8-9. If you Christian are religious person, why you din't follow the teaching of prohpet Jesus to worship one God alone. Jn 17:3
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vis
We are not religious ppl we're believing ppl, and we do follow the teaching of JESUS CHRIST whereas you religious nuts don't
hannahr77 3 years ago
Then what teaching you are follow? The theory of Charles Darwin?
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vis
once againg we do follow the teaching of JESUS CHRIST, whereas you muslims do not, you follow the teaching of muhammad abdullah
hannahr77 3 years ago
You are not religious person but you follow the teaching of Jesus Christ...strange statement. May be you are Jews the killer of Jesus Christ as what Christian belief. If you're following the teaching of Jesus Christ then you should wear one piece of garment and hung yourself on the cross.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vist
why would I hang myself on a cross? and what piece of garment should I wear, and what do you know abt the teaching of JESUS CHRIST?
hannahr77 3 years ago
If you really knows everything about Jesus, WHERE IS JESUS CRHIST AT THE AGE OF 12 TO 30? IF YOU DON'T KNOW THEN BETTER FOR YOU NOT TO REPLY. YOU ARE WAISTING MY TIME.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vist
JESUS when HE turn 12 HE like every good Jew at that time went to school, and after that HE helped HIS father in HIS shop and I don't need to know anything but the birth, HIS death and resurrection, other than this I need to know nothing else, and tell me my friend where according your book was JESUS CHRIST born where did HE die? Where were HIS parents born and from which tribes?
hannahr77 3 years ago
As it was written, Yeshua ben Yusef was born from the tribe of Yehudah. (Judah)
Catalina1956 3 years ago
cat
I know I only wanted to se if "visit" knew where it's recorded in the quran, I 'm so sick and tired of muslims telling me abt YESHUA ben Yosef, ben YHVH, and also it looks like every muslim is an expect on the Bible, as if we the Christians are completely ignorant of the Bible like they themselves are abt the quran
hannahr77 3 years ago
Shalom Hannah!
I mailed you a message to your site. Write back to me so I can prove to you who YEHOSHUA really is...it is very plain when you read precept upon precept. Toda Raba! ~ Catalina
Catalina1956 3 years ago
cat
thank you but I know who YESHUA is do you?
hannahr77 3 years ago
WAIT! Stop right here! The "JEWS" did NOT, I repeat, did NOT send YEHOSUA BEN YUSEF to the CROSS...if you knew the scriptures He said "I CAME TO LAY DOWN MY LIFE FOR ALL MANKIND" WE ALL HAVE THIS BLOOD ON OUR HANDS. Why do you think Yohanan (John) said "Behold the LAMB of GOD who takes away the SINS of this world?" You must read from precept to precept! ~ Catalina
Blessed be the Creator of the Universe, Savior of ALL MANKIND!
Catalina1956 3 years ago
Read every scriptures and do not choose only in favor of what you believe. Yes, Jesus send by the Creator to deliver the words of God. Jesus is the lamp of God because He is the messenger of God to all mankind to enlighten every human on this earth, to worship only one God ALONE and He never ever ask anyone to worship Him as god and creator. Read Jonh 17:3
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vist pt 2
John 3:16-18
Anyone who trusts in him is acquitted; anyone who refuses to trust him has long since been under the death sentence without knowing it. And why? Because of that person's failure to believe in the one-of-a-kind Son of God when introduced to him.
And yes I still do believe that by believing in JESUS CHRIST I go to heaven because HE died so that I could go free from the wrath of GOD on judgment day, GOD don't let sinners into heaven
hannahr77 3 years ago
He [Angel Gabriel] said, "I am only the messenger of your Lord to give you [news of] a pure boy." She (Mary) said, "How can I have a boy while no man has touched me and I have not been unchaste?" He said, "Thus [it will be]; your Lord says, 'It is easy for Me, and We will make him a sign to the people and a mercy from Us. And it is a matter [already] decreed.'"
(Maryam 19:19-21)
visitormsgr 3 years ago
Indeed, the example of Jesus to Allah is like that of Adam. He created Him from dust; then
He said to him, "Be," and he was. (Ale-Imraan 3:59)
The Messiah, son of Mary, was no more than a messenger; [other] messengers have passed
on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look
how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded. (Al-Maa'idah 5:75)
visitormsgr 3 years ago
& for their saying, "Indeed, we have killed the Messiah, Jesus, the son of Mary, the msgr of Allah." & they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him; but another was made to resemble him to them. And indeed, those who differ over it are in doubt about it. They have no knowledge of it except the following of assumption. & they did not kill him, for certain. Rather, Allah raised him (i.e. body and soul) to Himself and he is in the heaven. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise. Q4:157-158
visitormsgr 3 years ago
Christian got only one book to follow "THE BIBLE" how comes that you are not in the same faith? Other Christian worship Our prophe (Jesus) as their god. Other Christian believe that Prophet Eesa is the son of God. Other christian they don't know who is their god. Other Christian prostrate infront of a piece of wood. Is these all writen in the bible?
If you are tired, you will never find the right fath to paradise. May God forgive you
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vist
hmm let me se I don't know of any Christian believing in Eesa as the SON OF GOD who is Eesa. And could you by chance name any of the groups you have named like, Eesa is not mention in the Bible and as for ppl don't know who is their GOD well how do you know? And for the ppl kneeling in front of Miriyam the mother of JESUS, it's not in the Bible per se. And if and when I am tired I will pray to my LORD and SAVIOUR HE will sustain me and of course HE has already forgiven me HE loves me.
hannahr77 3 years ago
hannahr77
You failed to supply good aswer to my questions because you realy don't of what Christianity is. The origin of prophet Jesus was from arab countries and therefore his original name is Eesa and not Jesus. The name Jesus was came from Greek. (fabricated name) If you realy love prophet Eesa, you should follow of what He commanded to you. Read Jonh 14:15-16, Jonh 15:26-27, Jonh 16:5-8,Ezikiel 18:19-21, Jonh 16:13-14 and Deuteronomeo18:18
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vist
So you a muslim being a CHRIST hater tell me I don't know what Christianity is this is a joke a sick one I might say, so who is this Eesa you're talking abt?
hannahr77 3 years ago
I gave you a clear verses from your book (bible) but eyes remaind blind. Support your statement with verses from your book and do not speak by your own opinion. roothless opinion. Bible was writen 175 years after Jesus and not even one like you during His Time.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
Hannahr77
If you realy love Prophet Eesa (Jesus) you must follow his command to accept the last messenger (Jonh 14:15-16)
There are so many writen order in the bible but none of you follows the complete order. The bible said in Exodo, Leviticus, and Deuteronomy. "DO NOT WORSHIP ANY CREATION" "DO NOT WORSHIP IDOLS BESIDE ME" Roman Chatolics are the most idoloters ever in this world. Shame to them they will never find the right fath to paradise.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vist
there is not last messenger it stoped with YESHUA, muhammad is a false prophet according to YESHUA, HE never said there would any one after HIM, if there would be HE would had said so
hannahr77 3 years ago
Hannahr77
I gave you some clear verses from your book (bible) but your eyes remaind blind. Support your statement with verses from your book and do not speak by your own opinion. roothless opinion. Bible was writen 175 years after Jesus and not even one like you during His Time. We love propet Jesus and we place him in a very respected situation, not like waht you believe that He is nailed on the cross. You only follow PAGAN TEACHING and not the teaching of prophet Jesus
visitormsgr 3 years ago
You still believe that Jesus Christ crucifixion save the sins of all human. This kind of belief is roothless and baseless. Jesus Christ prayed in getsemany and He ask God to save Him. Read Mt. 26:39, Mc. 14:32-42 and Lc. 22:39-46. and read the response of in Hebrew 5:7. Read your bible VERY CAREFULY and do not choose only you want to read to convince yourself. May God forgive you
visitormsgr 3 years ago
READ THESE AND OPEN YOUR MIND FOR YOUR SOUL. Deutoronomy 18:18, Jonh 14:15-16, Jonh 15:26-27, Jonh 16:5-8, Jonh 16:13-14 and read this Ezikiel 18:19-21. I DO NOT WANT ANY REPLY FROM YOU. THE BEST WAY YOU DO IS TO FIX YOUR ONW SINS BECAUSE JESUS NEVER SAVE YOUR SINS HE ONLY DELIVER THE WORDS OF GOD AND HE IS NOT A GOD.
visitormsgr 3 years ago
vist pt 1
John 3:16-18
16-18"This is how much God loved the world: He gave his Son, his one and only Son. And this is why: so that no one need be destroyed; by believing in him, anyone can have a whole and lasting life. God didn't go to all the trouble of sending his Son merely to point an accusing finger, telling the world how bad it was. He came to help, to put the world right again.
hannahr77 3 years ago
Jesus Christ was NOT crucified NOR killed by any one. Why you Christian placed Jesus Christ in a very shameful situation by puting him on the coss wearing one piece of garment? Is that your way to respect and love Prophet Jesus? Read Luc 22:42 and Hebrew 5:7.
What about trinity? do you aware on this? 3 in 1 mmmm strange belief.
We love Jesus Christ, thats why we placed him in a very respectful situation. Open your Mind. Do not follow pagan teaching. Good luck
visitormsgr 3 years ago
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of course JESUS was crucified, isa on the other hand was not crucified but the again his a fake messiah, and we do not put JESUS in a shameful sitiuation HE knew that HE would be crucified and that's the reason HE came to this earth to be just that, and who is luc?
Hebrews 12:2
2 Let us fix our eyes on Jesus, the author and perfecter of our faith, who for the joy set before him endured the cross, scorning its shame, and sat down at the right hand of the throne of God.
hannahr77 3 years ago
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Kite207 3 years ago
No, for example the book of Daniel tells us of various prophecies concerning world empires (Dan Chapter 7 & 8). Daniel got his wisdom from a God in the heavens who is the revealer of secrets, Jehovah God (Daniel 2:28). This prophet lived before Jesus. He foretold that Alexander the Great (Greece) ( Dan 8:21) would conqure the previous existing empire, Medo Persia, but greece eventually fell to Rome, which he also foretold (Dan 7:7). Did not Jesus live under Roman rulership? Tiberius Ceasear..
willhedoright 3 years ago
..Tiberus Ceasar was emperor when Jesus three and a half year ministry took place. When Daniel lived, Babylon was the worlds strongest empire and, the book of Daniel, was written before Jesus was born...not hundreds of years after Jesus died. Now regarding the first ENGLISH TRANSLATION, the bible was RENDERED in ENGLISH AFTER JESUS DEATH. when Jesus lived the bible was written in Hebrew..and during the time Jesus lived Greek because GREECE WAS A WORLD EMPIRE AND THEIR LANGUAGE BECAME UNIVERSAL
willhedoright 3 years ago
Just for the record, The old testament of the bible was written before Jesus was born. The new testament was written during and after Jesus. God's name is Jehovah. The divine name is written on many artifacts dating back to ancient days, in Hebrew, YHWH. See the Tetragrammaton. Nah, i'll stick to the Bible
willhedoright 3 years ago
Jesus means "Jehovah Savior". And Emmanuel, one of Jesus name shown by Isaiah, Means "God With Us".
mitube1979 3 years ago
grrrrrrrrt video; keep exposing falsehood
aamirkarim 4 years ago
well done brother . . . great video.
nhharm 4 years ago
Thank you so much for making this video, a great response for sure!
ozzycda 4 years ago 6
Cool video, thank you :)
kaiwaig 4 years ago
Surah 3:77 (As for) those who take a small price for the covenant of Allah and their own oaths-- surely they shall have no portion in the hereafter, and Allah will not speak to them, nor will He look upon them on the day of resurrection nor will He purify them, and they shall have a painful chastisement.
AdorIslam 4 years ago
Surah 3.78 Most surely there is a party amongst those who distort the Book with their tongue that you may consider it to be (a part) of the Book, and they say, It is from Allah, while it is not from Allah, and they tell a lie against Allah whilst they know.
AdorIslam 4 years ago 2
And woe to those who write book with their own hand and then say: This is from Allah The traffic with it for a miserable price! So woe to them for what their hands do write, and woe to them for what they earn heir by.
AdorIslam 4 years ago 2
"And if anyone contends with the Messenger even after guidance has been plainly conveyed to him, and follows a path other than that becoming to men of Faith, We shall leave him in the path he has chosen, and land him in Hell - what an evil destination!" Qur'an, 4:115
AdorIslam 4 years ago 2
great info thanx
xiaahmad 4 years ago