Da Table

[fluenty9]

does it need a power cable or is it battery operated?

[xion101]

Fuck all these greenies, its called art, and this doesn't even come close to the wrose offender.

Top effort mate, beaut project.

[TroyOi]

Menkesdriek, do you simply have a grid of LEDs sitting directly under a layer of plywood, or is there also a mask under the wood? (The latter seems to be the case because each circle of light is so well-defined).

Also, could this work as well with standard-size (5mm) LEDs? Thanks.

[arc121212]

i dont think its led's how is it done?

[kingpolaris]

i want that table!

[M0reTeaVicar]

For the record, I do like the table, it has good potential for conveying information in public places. Using figures given to me by menkesdriek, the total LED power consumption is 19W, which is equivalent to an energy saving lightbulb. In real life, not all LEDS are on continuously, energy in one year more like 30MJ (6 washing machine cycles) - still not bad.

[M0reTeaVicar]

You are not a scientist. Real Scientists do not bully and use insults. As Lord Kelvin said "When you can measure what you are speaking about, and express it in numbers, you know something about it; but when you cannot measure it, when you cannot express it in numbers, your knowledge of it is of a meager and unsatisfactory kind". Dogmatic opinion pushing is not science.

[Mewizkuit]

Gimme pl0x.

[OSLd]

It is truely really nice that you guys are having a enviromental discussion about electricity use over here but I couldn't care less. The electricity is made and therefor I will use as much as I need to. I rather have someone answering my questions about the table.

[OSLd]

1 was it a lot of work?

2 how much did the whole thing cost?

3 how much do you expect it to cost if you take it in production?

4 how will you put up to date data on the table like let's say news?

no offence enviromentalists but I think your discussion is out of place in here.

[M0reTeaVicar]

Electricity generation is not a constant parameter. The higher the power demand, the more fuel gets burnt, exactly like using more petrol in your car to drive faster. Power generators have to second-guess technology and build new power stations to cope with demand. I'm not here to discuss the environment, but simply correcting people's misunderstaning of how technology works.

[M0reTeaVicar]

Therefore you are incorrect. It is more like 100 washing machine cycles.

[M0reTeaVicar]

Us scientists use numbers. There appears to be 175 LEDS. These are the jumbo variety which typicaly consume 20mA @ 5V = 100mW x 175 = 17.5W (ignoring the electronics). In one year this is 552MJ of energy. Washing machine typ.: 3KW over 20mins and 350W over 1hr 10 mins (1.5Hr cycle) = 5 MJ.

(People mistakenly over-estimate power on max power rating, but a)people mostly use 40 deg wash, b)machine only heats for about 1/4 of the cylce, c)motors are less than 350W).

[TroyOi]

Good scientists also specify the complete basis for their conclusions. Is your estimate of 552MJ/year based on all 175 LEDs being on continuously for that full year?

If so, depending on how the table is actually used and designed (like whether it has a simple on/off switch), you could be off by several orders of magnitude.

I could do the math myself, but a), I'm not a scientist, and b), I'm a lazy bastard.

[M0reTeaVicar]

LOL don't worry, scientists can be lazy as well! I did also post more about the basis of my calculations but those, and a number of other posts here have been deleted, so what I say below seems a bit out of context now (as I was replying to some ignorant acrimonious individual who made obloquious assertions without any depth of thought). One post made was that in 1 year the table would would use less power than 1 washing machine cycle...

[M0reTeaVicar]

(BTW the 30MJ is based on ave number of LEDS on, - not all on). I also pointed out (which got deleted?) that this was an over-simplification - there is also power consumed by the control electronics - if it was dedicated programmable logic chips, power would be of the order of the same order, and if it was controlled by a computer and some interface, then you're looking at around 40W minimum (disregarding VDU, since once its set-up you're hardly likely to need screen on).

[jasnwest]

ahh, much better video. Nice. This should have been featured rather than that ugly crap that got featured.

[sniffysniff666]

i want 1 make me 1

[mikji]

that is highly speculative

[OSLd]

any way since there are so much enviromental friendly people here i'll say some nice stuff.

first of all : wow, it looks really cool.

second some questions: was it a lot of work??

how much did the whole thing cost? how much do you expect it to cost if you take it in production? how will you put up to date data on the table like let's say news?

would love to have an answer on the questions and not from some enviromental idiot.

nice work lads

[trubl3maker]

nicee work

[lduk]

That is sick!

[willvarlais]

great work!

[eodeod]

I don't get what people are hating on. Great hack man, looks like it was a fun project.

[batflames2]

fake

[phsouzabr]

nice! really great work! those LED's must be powerful to be able to shine through the wood!

btw, what's the name of the song?

[Torboar]

lol that is so silly to make it is pointless!

you cant even read the letters right!

[menkesdriek]

the table itself is better than the movie, and it's a prototype. next screen will be better

[zopan9191]

Wow ... and ppl complain about global warming and "shut off the TV completely" and then they go create a useless energy using table, complete waste of money and energy ..

[menkesdriek]

LEDs are not too absorbing energy. Messages on screens, just like the internet, can save paper and therefore trees. OK, the table is made out of trees, but that's not necessarily worse than one out of plastic or steel.

[vwangel1964]

I know seriously! What is the point of this? There is absolutly no productive use for this table, besides of course it's obvious uses, but who wants to pay that much more for a table with lights..? come on people.

[Scooter2020259725]

i want one.

[Stylesw0n]

yeah hands down , coolest table ever.Believe now if you didnt before.I am anxiously waitin to see what other innovative creations Menkesdriek makes. Great work and keep it up.

[kiriaka1972]

How much? Please PM me, to discuss possible custom built table? Or maybe show me what you have assembled?

Thanks in advance.

Kiriaka

[DeathFlog]

I am very impressed

[Ju5tATh0ught]

could you please flip it over so we can see the innards..?

[pavelkolp]

cool

[XxFengoxX]

DUDE!!! thats awesome 5 stars!!