GEEZ guys.... going around when you're just about to land is possible. Stop trying to act like you know everything! Flight simulator isn't a Wikipedia to know EVERYTHING about planes.
With short field landings, you aren't supposed to lower the flaps. Since extra lift is not being generated anymore, you can brake better and with more effect.
@sushi064 Are you saying you are not supposed to lower flap fro the approach?
Because you would be very wrong my friend. With a short field, you want full flap, so you can get as slow as possible. Then, once you have touched down, raise flap to make your breaks more effective. But iv always been told not to bother with that, because people have, in the past, gone to raise the flap, but lift the gear handle by mistake. Then that makes you stop really quick :D
First able, you were flying to fast, 2nd you suppose to lower your flap so you can have better slow approach speed, and 3rd, Lower your landing gear you moron.
Why didnt the pilot do this in the real vid. he must of known well before he touched down that he was not going to make it. Unless he only had the one shot due to fuel starvation! Great re-make! 5/5!!!
I actually think flying is way harder in the sim. The technical frustrations are an added issue. The only thing you don't get is the actual "feeling".
well ive played FSX in the Cessna and ive had 8 flying lessons in the same Cessna ( REAL LIFE ) and the only things that are the same are the instruments and that where it ends.
yea but remember its more difficult in a REAL plane than on a flight simulator, in real life when landing your trying to go slow and when he landed i dont think he had enough time to speed up.
@AEvision - The speed at which you touch down is almost the same as the speed at which you take off, so a simple push of the throttle will get you airborne again. Clearing any obstacles after the runway is a different story, but in this particular case it was only water, so a go-around at the end of the runway would have been feasible - even after touchdown.
kirza94, have you ever USED a flight simulator? Although they are marketed as a game, I can assure you, it's far from it. I have recently finished my PPL, and with a few good addons, a flight sim, like FSX, is as close as you can get to flying in the real world.
@DKF22 well that runway is too short to pull up again when you would had already applied full brakes and pulled the flaps up , u wouldnt have enough time to put the flaps back to take off and gain enough speed to take off i've tested it in a Cessna 206 and a Avid on a longer runway and they dont even have enough room to re take off ( this runway was longer )
@kirza94 true say, on the actual plane crash vid, do you tihnk if he had been more patient on the breaks and not let them lock up he would of stopped?
@DKF22 well the thing with st barts is the runway is very short so landing u have to land really slow and with full brakes on , his approach must of been abit to quick as u can see on the real video, so there wasnt a chance to not crash as soon as he touched down
@kirza94 i beg to differ... in a real plane its a bit easier.. because of the reaction time of the plane.. in flight sim. small adjustments can throw off ur approach totally (based on computer imputs speed) in a real plane its much smoother the only diff really would be the feeling of been in it and the environmental effects!!
@kemms no ive tryed it in a cessna and a beach baron and my clostest airfeild which has distance markers on it ( seeming its a training feild ) and i attempted it with the same touchdown and everything (i reported it as a touch and go ) and i was over by 50 foot so if he could take off again from his landing he would skim the water ,, and he landed half way down the runway with full brakes and on this fake vid he only scraped the runway .
@kirza94 Remember, a plane that has just landed was flying only moments before, and it still has most of the speed it needs to take off again. If it's just touched down at 80 kts (or whatever landing speed is for this plane) then it only needs to accelerate 5 or 10 kts to be safely back in the air. With full thrust, that is equivalent to only a few seconds, and maybe 50 or 100 feet of roll. (look at the original video again and see how many seconds elapse after landing)
@kirza94 In the original film. the pilot flared and flew level for nearly half the runway. He had plenty of opportunity (flight speed and power) to throttle up and go around. It was clear that pilot make a very bad judgment call sticking with the landing.
"yea but remember its more difficult in a REAL plane than on a flight simulator"
And that simulators like FS2002, 2004, etc are not necessarily as advanced as actual training simulators that are often used by airline pilots to test these conditions. Even with the differences, doing a go-around would be optimal - and depending on how far down the runway you are, doable [safely]
@kirza94 That it is but I do think he had enough time to go around, he touched just before the 1,000 footers. Unless you meant after he locked them up
The real pilot floated it 3/4 of the way down the runway. By the time he got to half-way, he should have been putting the power back on and going around.
Real life is harder than the sim? Sure.
Touching down with 2/3 of the runway behind you at St Barts? Bad decision no matter how you look at it. The pilot did that one to himself.
Great 'landing' my friend? When in doubt power out.
Can I ask how you managed to film like this with ActiveCamera? I have it but can't seem to get the 'shaky' effect like this. Do you use the approach setting or something different?
Wow that video is fantastic very similar to the real video
Turner9090 1 week ago
Now that what he should had done instead of forcing the plane to stop. In the real video
Advent2k2 1 month ago
Fake
KA5H777 1 month ago
Great Video!
AirplanesWorld 1 month ago
Id rather run off the end of the runway than crash into a tree.
belizetj 2 months ago
To go around ............ shows a good pilot!
Better to go around as to crash the plane and hurt the pax.
Well done!
ThePilot314 3 months ago
never seen so high quality Plane Sim on my life! It looks like real!
kevin13209 3 months ago
fast approach!
MD881212 3 months ago
Your supposed to turn left while departing st barts not right!
dskxalive 6 months ago
air control: clear to land
pilot: roger that!
air control: oh btw, your ex is here
pilot: FUKK!! IM OUTTA HERE!!
TamilEelamTigers2009 6 months ago
@TamilEelamTigers2009 Stop copying
ecarrace100 6 months ago
@ecarrace100 loll i never had ma comment liked by many ppl :( is that too much to ask..
TamilEelamTigers2009 6 months ago
normally, during takeoff or go-around, the pilots should always turn left to avoid high terrain on the other side or bay...
CessnaGFE 6 months ago
The go-around for the airport is to turn left heading. There are mountains to the right.
Pagweb 6 months ago
about a 100 knots too fast on approach
yikes!
Richbund 7 months ago
There was no crash
Airbus2257 7 months ago
except that it appears the pikot has turned inland where it looks as if the height of those hills increases
utuubusr 8 months ago
Great work
skyman191 9 months ago
very good sound
00ShiNoda 9 months ago
thumbs up. good go around and that is how it should have ended.
straighttailpilot 10 months ago
FSX. I have never been able to do a very graceful landing at Barts even with a 182.
frank2398 10 months ago
what is the effect used ?? to make graphics more real ?
wassim407 11 months ago
fake and gay
BENJIIIII29 1 year ago
exactly!!
seno862 1 year ago
GEEZ guys.... going around when you're just about to land is possible. Stop trying to act like you know everything! Flight simulator isn't a Wikipedia to know EVERYTHING about planes.
iwantpk2 1 year ago
Very good scenery, quality and video!
hallewalollewo 1 year ago
With short field landings, you aren't supposed to lower the flaps. Since extra lift is not being generated anymore, you can brake better and with more effect.
sushi064 1 year ago
@sushi064 Are you saying you are not supposed to lower flap fro the approach?
Because you would be very wrong my friend. With a short field, you want full flap, so you can get as slow as possible. Then, once you have touched down, raise flap to make your breaks more effective. But iv always been told not to bother with that, because people have, in the past, gone to raise the flap, but lift the gear handle by mistake. Then that makes you stop really quick :D
FightingFalc0n 1 year ago
wow very real!!! keep it up
JonnyBgr 1 year ago
Very nice editing, I love how you incorperated the shaking effect, it made it seem so much more real.
PaperModelPlaneLover 1 year ago
what screenery is this
airboy1997 1 year ago
Well done.......... The real Barts crash is funnier but yours is the flight I would have picked on that day.
hammerogod 1 year ago
Was much faster then reality
Weltbevoelkerung 1 year ago
First able, you were flying to fast, 2nd you suppose to lower your flap so you can have better slow approach speed, and 3rd, Lower your landing gear you moron.
sideslide23 1 year ago
how do you add those wind soundsx
commanderoffamily 1 year ago
Oh Oh, HIT THE THROTTLE, HARD!!!!!!!!!!!!
MagixMind 1 year ago
Why didnt the pilot do this in the real vid. he must of known well before he touched down that he was not going to make it. Unless he only had the one shot due to fuel starvation! Great re-make! 5/5!!!
lukozaid 1 year ago
exactly, thats the kind of behaviour i would expect by a pilot!!!
friedchicken1981 1 year ago
thats what i thought when watching the real video, i was thinkin go around!!!!!!
thekidtrucker321 2 years ago
I actually think flying is way harder in the sim. The technical frustrations are an added issue. The only thing you don't get is the actual "feeling".
kdevies 2 years ago
well ive played FSX in the Cessna and ive had 8 flying lessons in the same Cessna ( REAL LIFE ) and the only things that are the same are the instruments and that where it ends.
kirza94 2 years ago
But shouldnt he have gone around as soon as he missed dthe Treshold
hardtrucker18 2 years ago
yea but remember its more difficult in a REAL plane than on a flight simulator, in real life when landing your trying to go slow and when he landed i dont think he had enough time to speed up.
kirza94 2 years ago 6
Well of course once you've land it's too late to take off, especially if that happend at the end of the runway. :)
AEvision 2 years ago
@AEvision - The speed at which you touch down is almost the same as the speed at which you take off, so a simple push of the throttle will get you airborne again. Clearing any obstacles after the runway is a different story, but in this particular case it was only water, so a go-around at the end of the runway would have been feasible - even after touchdown.
Jazzy78910 1 year ago
@AEvision
No it isn't, even if the wheels touch one still has the option to firewall the throttles if there is pavement left. Go arounds are a fast maneuver.
AugustusLarch 1 year ago
kirza94, have you ever USED a flight simulator? Although they are marketed as a game, I can assure you, it's far from it. I have recently finished my PPL, and with a few good addons, a flight sim, like FSX, is as close as you can get to flying in the real world.
GatwickSpotting 2 years ago
@kirza94 touchdown and rotation speeds are very close!! specially on piston and prop engines... you can easily apply full power and pull up again
DKF22 1 year ago
@DKF22 well that runway is too short to pull up again when you would had already applied full brakes and pulled the flaps up , u wouldnt have enough time to put the flaps back to take off and gain enough speed to take off i've tested it in a Cessna 206 and a Avid on a longer runway and they dont even have enough room to re take off ( this runway was longer )
kirza94 1 year ago
@kirza94 true say, on the actual plane crash vid, do you tihnk if he had been more patient on the breaks and not let them lock up he would of stopped?
DKF22 1 year ago
@DKF22 well the thing with st barts is the runway is very short so landing u have to land really slow and with full brakes on , his approach must of been abit to quick as u can see on the real video, so there wasnt a chance to not crash as soon as he touched down
kirza94 1 year ago
@kirza94 i beg to differ... in a real plane its a bit easier.. because of the reaction time of the plane.. in flight sim. small adjustments can throw off ur approach totally (based on computer imputs speed) in a real plane its much smoother the only diff really would be the feeling of been in it and the environmental effects!!
kemms 1 year ago
@kemms no ive tryed it in a cessna and a beach baron and my clostest airfeild which has distance markers on it ( seeming its a training feild ) and i attempted it with the same touchdown and everything (i reported it as a touch and go ) and i was over by 50 foot so if he could take off again from his landing he would skim the water ,, and he landed half way down the runway with full brakes and on this fake vid he only scraped the runway .
kirza94 1 year ago
@kirza94 Remember, a plane that has just landed was flying only moments before, and it still has most of the speed it needs to take off again. If it's just touched down at 80 kts (or whatever landing speed is for this plane) then it only needs to accelerate 5 or 10 kts to be safely back in the air. With full thrust, that is equivalent to only a few seconds, and maybe 50 or 100 feet of roll. (look at the original video again and see how many seconds elapse after landing)
Theriomalstrom 1 year ago
@kirza94 In the original film. the pilot flared and flew level for nearly half the runway. He had plenty of opportunity (flight speed and power) to throttle up and go around. It was clear that pilot make a very bad judgment call sticking with the landing.
nexus1g 11 months ago
@kirza94 He definitely had time. Especially since he was floating so far.
bronco8585 11 months ago
@kirza94 1) he knew he was coming in too fast before he even crossed the threshold
2) after having flown over 3/4 of the runway and still not touched down he should have initiated a go-around.
3) it is harder in real life, but it's not impossible - pilot error.
Iris421989 10 months ago
@kirza94
"yea but remember its more difficult in a REAL plane than on a flight simulator"
And that simulators like FS2002, 2004, etc are not necessarily as advanced as actual training simulators that are often used by airline pilots to test these conditions. Even with the differences, doing a go-around would be optimal - and depending on how far down the runway you are, doable [safely]
travelsonic 7 months ago
@kirza94 Not for me, surprisingly.
RandomPedestrian63 6 months ago
@kirza94 But he knew that he hadn't touched down and had enough time to speed up he produced to much lift
1fsnl1 4 months ago
@kirza94 That it is but I do think he had enough time to go around, he touched just before the 1,000 footers. Unless you meant after he locked them up
40joel 3 months ago
@kirza94
The real pilot floated it 3/4 of the way down the runway. By the time he got to half-way, he should have been putting the power back on and going around.
Real life is harder than the sim? Sure.
Touching down with 2/3 of the runway behind you at St Barts? Bad decision no matter how you look at it. The pilot did that one to himself.
dwightjs1 1 month ago
Great 'landing' my friend? When in doubt power out.
Can I ask how you managed to film like this with ActiveCamera? I have it but can't seem to get the 'shaky' effect like this. Do you use the approach setting or something different?
Thanks!
sanins192 2 years ago 7
The hand-shake effect is a video-effect; I used a plugin known as the "New Blue Active Camera" in SONY vegas pro video editing application.
AEvision 2 years ago
Thanks a lot!
sanins192 2 years ago
@sanins192 I think there is no go around
Soiconic 1 year ago
Very good! Though a turn to the left may have been more appropriate....
sweetroscoe 2 years ago
AWSOME great redux
silencecom 2 years ago
Thats more like it ! :) Great !
Martupp 2 years ago
very good video! Go around is safe
Shenzhenfootball 2 years ago 11
lol excellent scenery, excellent pilot lol
yuturvio 2 years ago
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mediajunki344 2 years ago 2
nice verey nice wich program u useed for catch the plane out side ??
fahadmod 2 years ago
@fahadmod
Thanks Fahad, I used Active Camera for FS2004
AEvision 2 years ago