Honduras: Where does Washington stand?

[kiana244]

**dumbpeel** learn how to spell first!! And mind your own business!!!! -:0

[dunpeels]

USA looking for another country they can feed on that how the make there money like Iraq took there oil lol and still sucking there like birds just want more rice so they look good.. Honduras make there money on tutors and banana. and they want are forest beacsue they destory theres. but one thing they for get the poeple own the country and if they see u doing wrong they kill u end of story u7p

[dunpeels]

USA looking for another country they can feed on that how the make there money like Iraq took there oil lol and still sucking there like birds just want more rice so they look good.. Honduras make there money on tutors and banana. and they want are forest beacsue they destory theres. but one thing they for get the poeple own the country and if they see u doing wrong they kill u end of story u7

[dunpeels]

USA looking for another country they can feed on that how the make there money like Iraq took there oil lol and still sucking there like birds just want more rice so they look good.. Honduras make there money on tutors and banana. and they want are forest beacsue they destory theres. but one thing they for get the poeple own the country and if they see u doing wrong they kill u end of story

[machetero3]

That bitch hilary clinton needs to step off Hounduran affairs and mind her business! She has no right to back up that brutal regime responsible for the coup,and to tell the hounduran people that they dont have the right to take up arms against that illegal regime that is opressing them. Who the hell is she to decide the fate of Honduras?

[likpit]

America again setting up Puppets just like they did in Venezuela in which it Failed

[shevegen]

Typical for the USA.

Obama cut off the president of a small country.

What were to happen if someone does this in the USA? If Obama gets abducted and brought out of the USA forever....

Shame on you Obama,

Shame on you USA.

[themailman43]

@shevegen THE HONDURAN PEOPLE AND THEIR CONGRESS DID THE RIGHT THING IN PREVENTING MANUEL ZELAYA FROM BECOMING PRESIDENT ELECT FOR LIFE LIKE HUGO CHAVEZ. WELL DONE FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM.

[vrs195927]

MAKE a protest in the USA,claiming Democracy and see what happens,

[jeanne642]

This one is not about oil. This is all about drugs. U.S. end prohibition, end war just about everywhere. Afghanistan, Columbia, Mexico and U.S.

[carlosSANtkd]

aa and sorry 4 my fucking english..but is a horrible lenguage anyways

[carlosSANtkd]

buaa us government is always complaining about the human rigths in venezuela and things but they give his support to the coup and genocide in honduras. fuckin NORTHamericans they have to dissapear from our lands

[camerayam]

Resistencia PUEBLO Hondureño

[miguelandoniez]

i am from honduras .. ad this president is a mexican wanna be... this president is a shame for honduras ... we are the only one got the balls 2 kick this kind of stupid presidents .. cuba nicaragua and venezuela they are eating shittt!

[Omega3chimp]

You wont see the states there they dont have any oil.

[Chindro2828]

but its a good place to have a military base....duh

[murk2002]

I say we stand no where, I don't give a shit he got overthrown. Let him eat cake, non of our business. I really think it's his fault he got overthrown.

[truthspitta11]

How is this the US fault Obama is actually with Chavez and Fidel.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

Either that's true, or you are with the Moon calves, and the available evidence points to the latter.

[Chindro2828]

lol

[cpspsble]

Go away, Zelaya ! People from Honduras

want democracy and freedom.We have seen you dealing with Hugo Chavez and Hezbolla.That's not what people want.

Honduras people want peace.Leave, Zelaya or you will have to respond of many

crimes.

[berknox]

Anyone who has the audacity to question the U.S' role in Latin America and the rise of coups should read Naomi Klien's Shock Doctorine first. Know what you're talking about before you take a stance and debate about such a serious topic.

[jguzman42]

All this happening is because USA international policies, so now don't cry because is the red's all over

[jmolina103]

USA? ... how in the world do you manage to blame the US for something initiated with Castro, followed by Nicaragua , Venezuela . How come you don't call out Chavez for sticking his nose in Hondura's affairs?

[jemjemde]

Hey mainstream media junkie, wake up and use your brain.

[jmolina103]

on the contrary, I am trained to weed out propaganda and look out for the facts, make my own analogy free of bias and state my own opinion. Open your eyes or stop lying to te working class.

[GallagherXXX]

HEY USA, EAT THIS:

You make one more move on me, you motherfucker, I'll fuckin' cut your fuckin' balls off, I'll shove 'em up your fuckin' ass, I'll fuckin' bury you, I'll put fuckin' ice picks in your eyes, I'll chop your fuckin eyeballs, I'll send 'em to your fuckin' family so they can eat 'em for desert! Do you understand me?! You mother... fucker!!!!

[jmolina103]

I would like to know something : what's with the red flags and face covered wearing red scarfs? Looks so much as the Sandinistas and Chavistas.

[theresponderful]

Red is the color of the Liberal Party of Honduras. A party that is largely irrelevant now, since both Micheletti and Zelaya belong to it. As Jesse pointed out in his last report on Honduras for TRN, Zelaya actually supported Micheletti's run for party leadership in December '08.

And now they propose to have an election, under military rule, when there is no party, media resource or political force in existence to represent and organize the majority who oppose the coup.

[chepsoki]

you are just lying arent you?

-military rule: there is no military rule

-no party: the candidates have already been picked since before zelaya was removed liberal party candidate (elvin santos) nacional party candidate (pepe lobo)

- media: your just straigh out lying there all radios & tv stations are running this isnt chavez land

[jmolina103]

right on !!! they are just lying big time. The facts are very clear and the great majority of hondurans do not want another Chavez .

[jmolina103]

I can assure you ... this Red is not the Liberal Party Red... this Red is the communist Red all the way. And you are lying.

[rollsthepaul]

There is only one form of government on the planet and it is called Monetarism.

[bishop102]

If it was Zelaya overthrowing Micheleti the U.S. would interfere immediately. When I heard the U.S. condemning what happened I knew something was wrong right away. It's not like the U.S. to condemn coups in Latin America, especially when it's a socialist government. The fact that they have not taken any action just confirmed my suspicions.

[roberteckerson]

Wouldn't it be interesting if our military had the balls to deport the president when he violates the constitution?

[AndrewMann552]

Up to 400 students gathered in protest near the Autonomous University of Honduras in the city on Wednesday, some of them throwing rocks at police. Adding to the pressure, some 15,000 nurses and other workers at 28 hospitals declared themselves on an indefinite strike, joining public school teachers who have been off the job for weeks. You want that to happen? Dumbass.

[os333w]

to: AndrewMann552 .. ok i live in nyc .. police hate Latino.. and if you go out you got arrested if you do gratify and destroy things if you are more than 100 people where they will take you! tonto!

[os333w]

what estupidos people.. caves hate america! and zelaya take Honduras,... take another country has hate country

[drmondman1]

cant post my comment

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[AndrewMann552]

Down with the fascist coup!

Workers' unions and the masses are beginning a major march today after days of resistance, ignoring the violence and terror of the coup regime which has been murdering activists and threatening radio stations with shut downs.

[sillyeek]

The school of americas again:-) It's quite funny to expect the US gov to criticize a coup it has organized.

For those who do not understand what I am talking about, please start from looking up the coup in Guatemala in 54 (wikipedia) and the long string of US-engineered coups in the whole of Latin America. Just because the cool guy Obama is president doesn't mean that US stopped being an empire.

[walkwalkslow]

And here I was under the impression that the US had too many irons in the fire. After all the US needs to stop the imperialism, no? Not our fight. Right?

[SheikahZeo]

What has the U.N. said about the coup in Honduras?

[bonobo80]

Hillary Clinton is really a piece of shit.

[EspartanoRasta]

Hillary is the real connection with the hidden power that governs the world, Obama I am sad to say is just a "face and voice" to keep everybody foolish.

Its really bad we have taken many steps back lately...

[TenseAlcyoneus]

Oh jeeesh. Here come the conspiracy theorists....yuck.

[ecoloscabos]

REVOLUTION!!!!

[sirellyn]

Trade and travel will all countries, treaties and alliances with none.

This is insulting have the US government only apply these principles when it suits them. And wholly ignore them when it does not.

The honduran exiled leader should be restored. But not by acts on the parts of other governments. Individual groups or people within countries can act, but it is ongoing foolishness to allow a countries government to make this kind of decision for all it's people.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

Zelaya violated the Honduran Constitution, effectively resigning himself from office. The Honduran Congress, Supreme Court, and other democratic institutions all supported the legal mean to remove Zelaya from office.

[SheikahZeo]

You say 'legal mean' but I don't ever remember there being a trial or any sort of legal process for that matter before Zelaya was exiled.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

Zelaya defied a Supreme Court Order. The Supreme Court then ordered his removal The Army complied.

Zelaya attempted to initiate an illegal referendum to extend the presidential term. The Honduran constitution clearly specifies that any attempt to extend the President's term is a disqualification form office.

This is all a matter of public record.

[NicosNicosNicosNicos]

The Supreme Court has no more powers to "remove" anyone than your local ice-cream parlour has. The referendum question is public knowledge and asks whether voters want a Constituent Assembly, and has nothing to do with extending, reducing, widening or ironing term limits of any kind.

[xxashyy]

Also it seems that white liberal lady wants the US government to send in ground troops and "take out" that leader over there. Basically a repeat of what happened in Iraq. Or maybe she wants the CIA in there like with Iran? No thanks, getting that deeply involved will make things very worst.

[captcrais101]

The US is involved. The school of americas is responsible for the coup.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

No it isn't. That's dumb.

[xxashyy]

That may or may not be true.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

LOL! Brilliant.

[captcrais101]

It is true according to democracy now.

[xxashyy]

No the way I hear it the ousting was a legal ousting of the leader, and NOT a coup. They actually followed they're Constitution. Something the US government doesn't do on a regular basis.

[AndrewMann552]

Actually the Honduran constitution forbids the forced expulsion of any citizen, including the president. So when the military expelled Zelaya they rendered themselves illegal.

[jmolina103]

it also prohibits the breaking of constitutional law as prescribed by the balance of power as set by itself. The ONU is the same organism that keeps ignoring the abuse of power from Chavez and Castro. You only want to hear what you choose to hear. I say, let him come back and have him face the law.

[AndrewMann552]

Acrually, Zelaya was not breaking the constitutional law. He invoked article 5 of the Honduran Civil Participation Act of 2006. According to this act, all public functionaries can perform non-binding public consultations to inquire what the population thinks about policy measures.

[anzuelocr]

you are so naive...murdering activists....how many have died? 2-3? in a coup...thats it??????? you throw rocks at guys with guns...what do you think is going to happen?

[AndrewMann552]

It's been more than that. Two union leaders were shot outside their homes, one in his car, another walking out. Obviously political assassinations. According to reporters like Al Giordano who is actually in Honduras the military has been doing house raids at night, disappearing activists, no doubt to torture them. The military has even converted a sports stadium into a torture center similar to what Pinochet did in Chile. The military fascists are also threatening radio stations for "subversion"

[jmolina103]

please, do cite your sources and weigh them to see how reliable they are. You can't just be throwing stuff around specially this emotionally charged.

[AndrewMann552]

That was reported by the AP, Al Jazeera, Reuters, McClatchy etc.

[jmolina103]

you are grossly misquoting and misrepresenting the truth.

[AndrewMann552]

PressTV: Soldiers have occupied state hospitals in Honduras as health workers declared an indefinite strike calling for the return of the ousted President Manuel Zelaya. "All the hospitals are militarized but the stoppage will continue," said Elvin Canales, a union leader at a hospital in the east of the capital Tegucigalpa.

Yeah, what a great democracy! Troops in hospitals!

[jmolina103]

and I am sure that ... just like in the US , these Unions are "looking out for the well being of the worker" ... right? I am sure that the best thing for them to do is to let people die in the hospitals because they refuse to do as they once pledge to do... cure people's illneses. I am sure the military is out to protect the citizens and to make sure there is law and order. Stop the propaganda buddy... Venezuela, Cuba, Bolivia, Nicaragua ... but not Honduras... not this time

[jmolina103]

Al Jazeera !! Wow , that is a place for credible unbias news... let's not insult each other's intelligence and let's discuss the facts as they really are not as propaganda.

[xxashyy]

I'm glad Obama's not getting involved with they're internal affairs in Honduras. It's got nothing to do with us. We cant afford it.

[barlog20]

You got to be an idiot if you don`t think America is apart of this coup.Why do you think America aren`t calling for sanctions?They always calling for sanctions for Zimbabwe,Iran,North Korea and other countries where they don`t have a puppet.Why is`nt America calling for war with the Honduran government? And plus the military of the coup plotters have ties to the U.S military and was trained in the school of the Americas which is a school that trains the militaries of U.S puppet governments.

[micahgee]

the US will do lip service to democracy, while actually supporting a brutal coup.

I bet the CIA was involved in the coup, if only some advisers to the government.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

It wasn't a coup. The Supreme Court merely upheld the Honduran Constitution.

[flyhead2]

90% of the world's leaders disagree with you and the junta. But that must be because they are involved in a conspiracy against the squeaky-clean US and right-wing generals. It's not as if this has ever happened before, right chico?

[TenseAlcyoneus]

90% of the world's leaders are not making a finding of fact, but of political expediency. As a matter of fact, the Zelaya defied the Supreme Court. The court ordered his removal. The Army complied.

[flyhead2]

Considering the US' supreme position, with its military might (overt and covert) and economic power (through the IMF and WB), it seems unlikely that 'expediency' would involve going against the US. Please provide a link documenting this media claim (unconstitutional expansion of power), because all I can find to support the junta's claim is word of mouth punditry. If it is true then documentation would have been provided. Good luck.

[TenseAlcyoneus]

Oh no. flyhead. Many nations seek to check US power as a vital national interest. That's been the thrust of UN diplomacy since its inception and has been the origin of European diplomacy since de Gaul.

Here's a good rundown on Zelaya:

tinyurl(.)com/HondurasDefendsD­emocracy

Supreme Court Justice Rosalinda Cruz explains the high court's actions:

tinyurl(.)com/HonduranJusticeE­xplains

You can also read the Honduran Constitution. I did.

[flyhead2]

Let's try again, shall we? Where is a the bill that Zelaya purportedly attempted to pass? I've heard a lot about this from those who support the coup, yet no document has yet to surface, which I find strange. A blog or two is hardly evidence.

[chepsoki]

you are a freaking idiot.........nobody but nobody is saying it didnt exist but you...even his supporters admit it even zelaya says it! you are a reaL idiot.

[flyhead2]

yawn.

[chepsoki]

do you even know what the hell your arguing about???

[TenseAlcyoneus]

I didn't post links to "a blog or two," but to two different reputable new organizations.

As for the bill he tried to pass, Hugo Chavez sent a warehouse full of referendum ballots. It's all in the two links I posted.

Why won't you read them? Ignorance is excusable. The world is a big place. But purposeful ignorance. That's never excusable, flyhead.

[EyFmS]

The usual story no :)?

[PersonalJesus348]

a broken government telling another broken government what to do? That's news to me....

[madebutante]

South and Central America is truly having a democratic revolution - Honduras' direction toward a strong democracy was thwarted by a coup with a General who was trained by the U.S. If the U.S. is involved in the coup, then it better fix it...but of course, it won't until the pressure is intense from the people of the U.S. Because of course, the 'government' is for the corporation by the corp and for the corp, we have a slim chance...Democracy Now!!

[ManFaded]

Elections will be held in Honduras in November now go back to sleep.

[os333w]

yes! i am with you! but i will say one more.. if obama want to be on the presidency for more than 8 years.. will it be ok.. humm see obama is popular

[AndrewMann552]

Up to 400 students gathered in protest near the Autonomous University of Honduras in the city on Wednesday, some of them throwing rocks at police. Adding to the pressure, some 15,000 nurses and other workers at 28 hospitals declared themselves on an indefinite strike, joining public school teachers who have been off the job for weeks.

GOOD LUCK!

[ManFaded]

lies lies and misinformation

[H3JT3R]

how do you know what's a lie? are you some sort of god?

[ManFaded]

Because I've looked at the issues and non compliance of constitutional law is what made this issue in Honduras. USA should take note. Americans are too fed up with our politic ignoring our constitutional laws.

[jortizz]

The US should do.....NOTHING. It is unconstitutional to intervene in foreign affairs, and this country is BROKE and can't afford to get involved. This is an issue that should be resolved by the good people of Honduras.

[madebutante]

Tell that to the 1.32 million dead in Iraq.

We most likely put Gen. Vazquez up to the coup. He is another undemocratic type who was trained by the U.S. at SOA-

The Georgia-based U.S. military school is infamous for training over 60,000 Latin American soldiers, including infamous dictators, "death squad" leaders and others charged with torture and other human rights abuses. SOA Watch's annual protest to shut down the Fort Benning training site draws thousands.

[CaptainBluebear08]

I wish the SCO could intervene.

[byemef]

Thank you so much, Real News.

[phnixlady]

Thanks again.