@THManchesterMoon Obama is a supporter, but is also trying to be fair to the Republicans. After all, since the Republicans control a good portion of Congress, Obama has to be as fair as possible on the gay issues so that he can get his other bills passed. This is my argument: Obama isn't struggling on whether gay marriage should be legal. He's struggling over how strongly he should politically back up gay rights.
@THManchesterMoon When did he ever say that it would? He basically said he was for it. Gay and lesbian couples should have the same rights as a heterosexual couple. Did we not watch the same clip, or were you simply elaborating?
@madeinheavenx I dont even live in the states, so i guess its not really my words to say. Tho i would like to say that if Obama seriously would want homosexual marriage to happen, and really find that equal rights should be, he would have made gay and lesbian marriage legal years ago!
@THManchesterMoon The thing is, everything he does has to be cleared by Congress. Every single thing he tries to get passed, it's ultimately up to them. At the end of the day, they're in charge, not him. I'm sure he would have made it legal long ago but there are so many steps to get through.
@madeinheavenx Hes the president. He makes the rules break through. And i am in the belief that if he really would have gay marriage legal, like really seriously would, he would have done it bu now!
@THManchesterMoon Like you said, you don't live in the States, so the rules here are undoubtedly different than the ones from where you reside. Congress is, again, ultimately in charge of what passes and what doesn't. That's why our country is so fucked. Whomever is in office, the opposing party takes up most of Congress thus making it difficult to see eye to eye. Obama has already legalised same-sex marriage in eight states, I believe, and it can't be done all at once.
@madeinheavenx You know, this is just one of the subjects where both part will keep coming with both good and bad argumanet, tho neither are going anywhere. So lets just cut this off, and all be friends .. :D
"Gay marriage" is not the real issue. It is being promoted by those who want to destroy society.
We are being brainwashed into a mantra of "Equality and Diversity" by a liberal marxoid "elite".
A standard technique of brainwashing is to make an absurd decree, which flies in the face of tradition and common sense, and use the power of the state to enforce it. "Gay marriage" is a good example.
This is used to justify state interference in all aspects of people's lives.
like anne hathaway or however u spell her name said "love is a human experience not a political statement" im gay myself & i hate how big this topic is to people! i want to get married not gay married! i dont gay park my car i park my car i dont gay eat i eat my food! im a human being like everyone else so why cant i get married...not gay marriage just marriage!
i undestand this is a tough topic & for me being gay its nothing but a fairy tale fantasy that ive dreamed about since i was little growing up in this world where no one understands what its like to be controled by people forcing me to be something im not, im not strait & i cant be with a woman coz i dont feel the same as a real man would coz it wouldnt be fare on her as it would be fare on me to be in something arranged when my heart is already set on a dream that only i can find on my own
My opinion is different. I think the way the Republican candidates fight like children is ridiculous, the way they push their religious agenda down our throats is wrong and midieval, and they way they actually think gay marriage belongs in a discussion while we have REAL problems is absurd. However, I think think any of them is way better than Obama. Obama's followers believe in govt intervention way beyond what is right for this country, hence my reasoning.
@dgoren121692 That's a respectable opinion so we can agree to disagree. But I actually think gay marriage is a very valid issue as it pertains to the civil rights of a large group of people. To me it is the most important but that is only because i have a secure job future.
I see what you're saying. I should have phrased it differently.Gay marriage should simply be legal everywhere, so we can concentrate on issues that are more complicated. I think you will find that explanation clearer. I am beyond frustrated, because I am a fiscal conservative and an advocate of limited government, but believe in personal choice and rights (i.e. Libertarian). Therefpre, I don't like either party but have voted Republican due to fiscal policies that to me are better
@send2artem first of all, if they only make up 1%, then it shouldn't be a problem, and also, any one of the tree candidates? I know Mitt Romney likes the trees in Michigan, but really?
@zllamamasters Thats what i don't get, why is it a problem.. Also i meant anyone is better then Obama, since he had been president he promised changed but nothing changed we are still at war and more in debt... and for the first 4 years hes kinda nice and quiet because he wants to get reelected again. But if he does win he will go all crazy...
@zllamamasters Did you know that he wants to make it to where if you have a child that will have some sort of birth defect the doctor decides if the kid lives or gets aborted... The parents will have no say in it...
I was okay with Democrats until this letting gays openly serve in the military BS
The military is not the place for gays to be parading around like (some) of them do. Military men and women need to be focused at all times and I can already se some of the distractions gays are causing. You can't impose on others rights to satisfy a few. When and where will it stop????
@TweekDash LOL thats all you guys can do is name call anybody telling the truth. All these public figures are against you too. Their position won't allow them to be honest about it.
@TweekDash haha and i'm the one with hate in my heart. I can't speak my opinion but you can speak yours and call me a name for having a different one lol.
@floridaboy22 What's wrong with openly serving? If someone has a problem with it, it's not a problem with the gay person, it's a problem with the one who has a problem.
You seem to be under the assumption that all gays are flamboyant, in-your-face-look-at-my-gayness. And, that's simply not true.
In fact, the only reason we come across as in-your-face is because it shows that we don't care about the oppression placed on us. It wouldn't be such a big deal if people didn't care so much.
@KoreaxxLove All of you are guessing what it's like serving. You don't know what it's actually like and some of the situations you get put in. Dadt was a sacrfice for both sides of the fence. It's not right for some to be made fully comfortable and the other side to be walked over. Tat was the only medium. Nobody wants to hear how those against it feel. Only those who were making it sound horrible and their complaints
@floridaboy22 "It's not right for some to be made fully comfortable and the other side to be walked over." Exactly--that's why DADT was wrong. You don't know how uncomfortable it is for someone to be in the closet, and you don't know how stressful it is. I do, and I can tell you, it is HARD.
The other side SHOULDN'T feel uncomfortable. That's a problem with them.
However, suppressing your true self is uncomfortable for all.
@KoreaxxLove No it's it's not. Nothing you just said is true lol. DADT was a middle ground for both sides. If everyone can't be happy no one should be happy. Both sides had to sacrifice something. We had to sacrifice being in close quarters, sharing community showers, and everything else we do on a daily with homosexuals we just couldn't identify the individuals. The other side was able to serve since that's all they "CLAIM" they want to do they just couldn't talk about that one personal issue!!
@floridaboy22 They could still serve and live their lives they just couldn't bring it around others. Now we're getting our rights and beliefs pushed aside and they get everything they desire. No need to call me a name you don't like how I feel and I don't agree with you (That gets settled with compromise from all parties)
@KoreaxxLove But thats what I'm trying to get you to understand. Some people in this country won't just accept this behavior. We have a right to religion also. Exercising our right we live as Christians which calls for us to separate ourselves from sin. We don't dislike anyone but we know what it is. We couldn't call ourselves his people if we didn't try to help (Not Judge). Asking someone to stay in the closet is oppression and telling someone not to exercise their religion is???????
@floridaboy22 What you don't understand is this: not accepting the behavior is a choice by someone else. It's bigotry. It's a problem with them.
No one said to not exercise your religion. You can exercise as you please. But, you do not have the right to oppress someone else. You can exercise your religion without discriminating against another group. Say you don't like it--whatever, but you can't discriminate.
It's not a sin. You wouldn't distance yourself from it just by not knowing about it.
if you're going to give someone a strong civil union that gives the same privileges as marriage, then why not give them marriage as well?
we don't ask our spouses to "civil union" us.
but still. obama's views have really progressed and i can't say i'm terribly upset over his ideas. he's one of the few people that can speak out against same sex marriages and i'll still respect him. he speaks his mind well and he tries to be open to other people and their feelings.
I consider myself pretty conservative, but honestly i don't know why they don't just make it legal already. I'm tired of hearing about it really doesn't affect me one way or another.
Why do people hate gay people they are clean, in shape, well dressed, well educated think about it gays are so successful always because they do not have kids fuckin their shit up., until they are ready to have kids at any rate Obama believes in gay marriage he is just being a pus
What he really means is that he struggles with his Iron-Age beliefs about what defines a union between two people.
How is it possible that we still have the same mentality of someone living in Afghanistan today? Remember the song we sang as kids "The B-I-B-L-E, yes that’s the book for me".
@northoforacle I'm glad he's struggling. That shows that he is an open enough person, an intelligent enough person, to rethink his opinions based upon the things he witnesses. That kind of self evaluation takes a very special kind of person. Good for him.
I find it very hard to believe that all of these highly educated people care about the definition of marriage. Democrats and Republicans both have to dumb it down to keep supporters... ESPECIALLY Republicans.
if Obama was a dictator, you wouldn't be able to post "negative" things about him here on the good old PUBLIC internet...get a grip, you're losing touch with reality.
@peachesandlily He is a dictator, look at the NDAA. He can solely order the indefinite detention of any citizen because they are a 'terrorist.' If that is not dictatorial, then I wish you luck....
@asull822 first off John McCain cowrote and sponsored that bill, and it passed through congress and the senate with almost no objections. I agree, its a stupid law...He had said he wasn't going to approve it at first, and then he did...Im not happy about it either. But to compare him to the likes of Stalin or Hitler...its way off base and ignorant.
@peachesandlily but you do realize that your comment must be "approved" on certain Obama you tube channels, i commented on i think it was called"barackobamadotcom" and it wasn't shown on the site because it showed all of his failures. I can't even state my own opinion on a public you tube channel.
@flywilly2 havent personally been on that channel...but i know you can post whatever you want on the official white house channel...seen some pretty nasty things on there. If thats his personal channel, then i dont really see the difference between him (or more likely a staffer) moderating it then many other channels do. Thats their choice, which youtube has made available to every user.
@asull822 What led to Nazi Germany: - Reactionary politics - Privately owned nationalistic 'police' squad - Treaty of Versailles - Economic depression - Antisemitism - Organized violence against jews What happened over the past decade? - Not much really, a liberal as a president - bit of economic depression, not even remotely comparable to Germany 1933 Maybe you should try and read a history books, what you're saying is sick.
@TheSngcoach -Hitler blamed the Communists for burning down the Reichstag, even though he did it, which led to laws that were supposed to 'promote national defense' like:
-Hitler's enabling act which is the same thing as the Patriot Act and allowed him to take away citizenship (Expatriation Act) and legalized the indefinite detention of citizens without a trial (NDAA) History repeats itself...
@9N8X Yes we did? We went into Libya and 'helped' the 'freedom fighters' (Osama Bin Laden was a freedom fighter, remember) and overthrew Qaddafi. Same thing goes for Egypt in Mubarak. And we did invade Iraq, just because we got out doesn't mean we never did get in. Watch the news and I'm sure they'll say "Iran is building nuclear weapons." This is the same thing they were saying about Iraq.
@asull822 Lol, you're being silly. You didn't invade egypt or libya. You actually supported mubarak for quite a long time, you never helped the people overthrow him. For Libya, that wasn't you either, that was Sarkozy.
@TheSngcoach We backed them like we backed Osama in the seventies, look what heppend with that. It's funny how we back freedom fighters all over the world except in our own country.
@asull822 I don't think comparing Obama to Hitler is really going well for you. You said "what happened over the past decade". Well, I can tell you one thing, you didn't back Osama over the past decade. Yes, Obama said that egyptians should have a right to protest, that is not the same thing as organizing militancy against the CCCP. So again, what happened the past decade? Not much, just a liberal president and some economic depression.
@asull822 If you want to compare someone or something with hitler or fascism in general, it will definitely help you if you know what hitler/fascism stand of, and lead to in the 30's. Geopolitics, how horrible it is sometimes (esp the Osama example), is not necessarily the same thing as invasion/Jewmurder. I'm just telling you you're being silly, and I'm being very explicit about it. Now go read a book about WWII plz. You can watch "apocalypse: rise of hitler" if you want. It's a NatGeo. docu.
Nazi Germany Passed laws against it's own people, Used heavy propaganda, Invaded countries, Killed a specific group of people(Jews)
United States Passes laws against it's own people, Uses heavy propaganda, Invades countries, Killing a specific group of people(Muslims)
The Republic is dying and a fascist police State is emerging. There is no difference between Democrats and republicans anymore. Ron Paul is the only different one
@GOD719 "Killing a specific group of people(Muslims)" Sigh, comparing Bush's war (bush, not even president) to the holocaust little boy? Sickening, truly sickening. "United States Passes laws against it's own people," Yes, like every country in the entire history of the universe. "Uses heavy propaganda," Yes, that's America for ya, Gawt bless the corporation. Am I rite? "Invades countries" Uhh? "Ron Paul is the only different one" The true King of the internetz! Heir of the lolcat!
@TheSngcoach Obama continued the war. He bombed Libya and increased the drone killing in Pakistan so yes both bush and Obama is fighting a war with "terrorist" Muslims. The banks run this country- Yes. "Ron Paul Naive on the Economy" How did he predict the housing bubble and the fall of the dollar if he is naive?. I ask one thing from you. Read quote from Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln. They are scary accurate to what is happening now
@GOD719 "He bombed Libya" That was Sarcozy, he had a decent Casus Belli btw. Whether you agree with it or not, calling it an invasion is an error of judgement.
""terrorist" Muslims"
Why the "" around terrorist? You mean, people who fly planes into buildings aren't terrorists? People who hang children, just to gain control over their parents aren't terrorists? Please tell me this is not what you mean, you're only making it worse. Find some mental assistance please.
@TheSngcoach quotations is because we funded the Taliban to fight the soviets. They were our friends at one point but now those same weapons we bought for them is wounding and killing our soldiers. I bet you think Iran is bad too? We installed the shah back in the 50s to control their oil. They overthrew the shah and took hostages. Than we put Saddam into power to fight and kill Iranians. Our government has caused more problems around the world than any other nation.
@TheSngcoach ""Our government has caused more problems around the world than any other nation."
Indeed, so Obama is not that bad after all?"
Oh, wait, I retract this. I don't think you win this yet. Maybe you're ehm... nr. 3 now, cause Germany is still nr. 1 (and honestly, they're hard to beat, they've got a looooong history), and UK is nr. 2.
@GOD719 "They were our friends at one point but now those same weapons we bought for them is wounding and killing our soldiers."
"We installed the shah back in the 50s to control their oil."
"They overthrew the shah and took hostages. Than we put Saddam into power to fight and kill Iranians."
Yeah, it's called history, now read about what lead to WWII as well, and you'll almost be a full person! Yeey! Also, none of what you said in your last post is actually Obama's fault, is it?
@TheSngcoach True Obama didn't start it. But he is continuing it. "Change" what into a fascist police state? You can't deny that when they pass laws like the NDAA and ACTA. Which is why I like Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the change that Obama supporters wanted. "the man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but news papers" Thomas Jefferson. Don't listen to the media. They are bought and all they report is opinions. They are not factual news anymore.
@GOD719 "They are bought and all they report is opinions."
I'm not an idiot.
"Ron Paul is the change that Obama supporters wanted."
You are. Many people just want normal things like get married, health care, decent wage. Ron Paul wants other things, like the gold standard. Stop being silly now please.
"You can't deny that when they pass laws like the NDAA and ACTA."
Again, that's not Obama, he's not your absolute monarch.
@GOD719 "How did he predict the housing bubble and the fall of the dollar if he is naive?"
Because a monkey could've predicted that. The dollar didn't fall btw, it's still the nr. 1 currency. Silly, silly man. This is why he's naieve, for the same reasons his 'supporters' are.
"Read quote from Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln."
Yes, quote from Jefferson, and Lincoln, two relatively important figures who both only read 1 sentence, therefore I now know exactly what you mean.
@GOD719 I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Obama is not an absolute monarch, so your youtube revolution is probably not gonna bring you the anarchy you want.
Also, Ron Paul is silly, just silly, for his ridiculous ideas (gold standard, laissez faire economy), and a little dubious in his financing. He's also naive, which is kind of endearing.
However, I do feel sympathy for him, since his republican colleagues are all kind of evil (except Perry, he probably doesn't know what he's saying)
@peachesandlily If someone were an exceptionally skilled dictator they'd allow the populace to feel as though they have a voice, a choice in their leader (a fake system of voting) and etc. Feeling like they were empowered through political action would stop them from taking PHYSICAL action and actually taking back their personal liberties through armed rebellion. We have no "Dictator" we have "Dictators" plural. Oh by the way, you miss SOPA? The internet wont be "public" for long
@tomboyanonymous look im not one to call names but i think you need to understand that even if obama was trying to be a dictator it wouldnt matter because i would rather have obama as president again then to have one of the republican canidts they are all liers as well and this race for presidency is between obama and mitt romney and mitt romney is just as much as a lier as you believe obama is and not to mention he is a biggot. and both of you guys sound like 5 year olds arguing with each other
@BlackAmericaUSA You're right, it's not bigotry to oppose homosexuality. Because you have a right to your opinion. You don't have to like us or be involved in our lives. But when you IMPOSE your beliefs on homosexuals, and interefer in our lives (whether it'd be professional, family, or love life) then we have a problem.
How about you look at the constitution Obama? People should have their liberties as long as they dont hurt or defame someone, some dude suckin dick is hurting or defaming me or any other american
I will not listen to the opinion of someone who is stupid enough to think we 'veto' presidents out of office. Learn more about politics before you think you should have an opinion about it.
@NekiiFTW really yr telling me to listen to politics,im sorry...are u aware of what he did and been doing...hes a lier and continues to lie...he signed the NDAA martial law act that gives the president the authority to imprisonment any USA citezen to prison indefinitaly with a trial and he also signed the SOPA/PIPA/ACTA, that gives the governement the authority to shut down any website that upsets there statues quo..if that doesnt deserve a VETO..then yr more of an idiot then i thought
Don't call me the idiot, kid. Especially not when you can't even properly type out an argument. And, again, stop acting as if your opinion should have any sway over me, especially when you think a president is 'VETO'd'. I mean, seriously? Then you call ME and idiot?
@NekiiFTW awwww...did i hurt the idiots feelining...poor u...im not a kid for one...look up the word veto,,its too get ride of...to ban..banish..it has the same meaning as impeach..learn yr politics...little girl...and yr the one who called me stupid..u asked for it...dont be sayen stuff if u cant handle it..and three why dont u listen to him..and hopefully youll see threw his bullshit lies...he wants to be a dictator...and trying to be one...
Really? You type like one. Then again, you also type like a conceited asshole, but I figure I'm not that far off. First of all, I know what veto means, you fucking idiot. We still don't use the word 'veto' when referring to kicking a president out of office. Two, it's not politics, it's a dictionary you want me to read, but it's not like you know anything about either of those. Three, I can handle it, but it's not deserved. Four, he's not trying to be a dictator, -c-
@NekiiFTW im a conceited asshole.yr the dumb bitch that wont wake up....wow...when yr the one who wrote to me first.and listen woman..u are an idiot if u dont think we should get ride of his ass and yes i do think hes trying to be a dictator hes already showing the signs by signing the NDAA martial law bill...when hes signed the SOPA/ACTA/PIPA there trying to censure us..and people like u are not doing anything about it..hes telling lie after lie..and now hes doing anything to stay in.
@NekiiFTW your the stupid bitch that wont wake up..and two i type real fast..i guess i have to dumb it down for u to understand i said learn yr politics, because of the word veto and impeach...they both have the same meaning...dumbass..to ban to get ride of...ect...if u dont think that we should impeach and kick his ass out..then like i said yr more stupid then i thought...hes passing laws that are bullshit..and too take mine and your freedom away...thats whats he doing with this war..
@NekiiFTW and further more..hes passing laws left and right that hitler and china has done numerous times..recently he passes a law stating that over thirty thousand drones can fly over the USA alone..to spy on us..there trying to bankrupt us by passing laws that will. there censureing ron paul..cuz there scared..and with dumbass like u..who wont wake up..and wont see whats hes doing..then he will be a dictator..WAKE UP..LEARN...before u start debating with the adults...
and even if he was trying to be, you think that will happen? No. Lastly, I still give no fucks about name-calling. Especially sense you can't even spell feeling right. I mean, what the fuck?
@NekiiFTW when i say learn your politics i mean exactly that..learn the plitical definition..and the politics that goes with it.....dont interfere with the adults..go back to your jersey shore...
I've always felt like there should be no issue in allowing to people (may they be gay or straight) into a legal union. We promote freedom in this country yet do do the opposite by denying people there rights because of some ideological belief.
In the matter of religous cermony, i believe it goes against there beliefs and we should respect that. I think the more we seperate church and state the better off we will be.
a vote for obama newt rick or mitt is a vote for more war more spending less jobs all at your expence i offer this to think about rick and newt both lobbyest made millions mitt made more destoring companys sending jobs over seas has obama brought the troops home stopped the the wars no and he is tryng to start another war we can not afford with iran dont be the sucker they think you are dont let them back in office so they can do it again they will not stop spending your and your kids future
The irritating thing is that politicians make such an attempt to give no opinion at all and remain "on good, voting terms" with everyone that you're not really voting for a candidate anymore. Give your opinion. If people truly like what you're about, they'll support you 100%. If not, you don't really belong in a position of power anyway.
i think obama rick newt mitt need to go to their next war with iran they can take their kids not ours we need them who turned their back on america when it was their turn to serve in the military to lead from the frount not hide in the rear if we made them attend the war they would find hundreds of reasons they cant go like shoes need shining nothing to wear need nails done they have golf on that day well lets see what the chickens can come up with just betting their not going
Our forefathers made it so THIS would never happen and presently we are going against the very fundamentals America was built on. RELIGION WAS NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER to be integrated into our government. The whole point of America was for freedom from religion now we're using religion as a BLOCK.
@Infernatotely Too bad the fucking Republicans brought religion back into politics. Gay marriage doesn't have to do with religion, the only reason that it could POSSIBLY be because of religion is because of the Republicans messing around with it, saying that it is a sin and God doesn't want it.
@Infernatotely it doesnt make any sense for homosexuals to marry, truth is marriage was introduced by religion, the same religions that say homosexuality is immoral. They already have unions, just doesnt make sense to marry.
@ramo50ful It doesn't make any sense for women to marry. Truth is, marriage was introduced by religion, the same religions that say women are ownable, unclean, childbirthing machines who should be segregated from and not allowed the same rights of personhood as men.
Except, you know, marriage wasn't created by religion and the context of marriage has completely changed in the last few generations to be a statement of love all people should be entitled to make.
@DreamerbyDeseption now youre not making any sense, Christianity says for women to marry men, Islam says for women to marry men, Judaism says for women to marry men. You can't just make stuff up cause you r frustrated. You want to know why God said for men to marry women, because the soul of a women has qualities that take the burden off the soul of a man and a man takes the burden off a soul of a woman. And of course to have children which are blessings from God and live in complete happiness.
@ramo50ful Actually Paul tells everyone to abstain from marriage if they can avoid it, so you're wrong on at least one count.And if you want to believe all this lovey-dovey stuff about "God's" definition of marriage, fine. Just don't read the Bible or your feelings might be a bit hurt. At any rate, you completely missed my point.
@ramo50ful My point was that saying gay people shouldn't get married because people who follow certain religions think of them as immoral is as illogical as saying women shouldn't get married because people of certain religions think of them as immoral and mistreat them because of it (which, is pretty common in the religions you listed).
@DreamerbyDeseption I'm actually a Muslim, could care less what the bible says, you should read what the Quran says about marriage it makes a lot of sense actually. "Your wives are a garment for you, and you are a garment for them." (2:187) So a husband and wife complete each other - each one takes on a new aspect of their humanity. "He himself created the pair, male and female." (Qur'an 53:45)...In Islam women are not considered immoral, there status is elevated compared to other religions.
@DreamerbyDeseption Islam ENDED the common practice in pre Islamic Arabia of burying infant girls (pretty sick stuff) because they were thought to bring dishonor. Islam gave women rights with regards to marriage, divorce, civil rights, legal status, dress code, and education. Islam elevated the status of women and says they are equal to men. It might surprise you what the Quran says about women. In the Quran it says heaven lies at the feet of your mother.
@ramo50ful Religion does not have a monopoly on marriage. It is now and has always been a legal contract that we recently have begun to attach love to. Religions just administered them for a part of our history, just like they used to administer all forms of health care and education. That doesn't mean that the non-religious shouldn't learn or go to the doctor because those who used to ritualize these things disagree with something about us.
@DreamerbyDeseption Look you can't say that marriage is changed now to stand for love one feels for another. What if someone is in love with a horse, why shouldn't we legalize marriage to that horse. Or what if someone is in love with an inanimate object, why can't we let them marry the car or wall...without religion or prophets morals would not have been introduced, no one would care about marriage or starting a family, they would be promiscuous. Adam the first man on earth was married to Eve
hes trying too hard not to be controversial. Like most politicians, they just say things to please the public. If he gets re-elected, I bet he comes out 100% behind gay marriage because he won't have "anything to lose". ALL politicians are calculated and fake.. even Obama. Sad but true
why are people so hung up about marriage. religion set this whole bullshit marriage system up, religion says that gays and lesbians are damned to hell. that's that. if you're gay and religious, then that's your problem. sorry folks.
@lloydgar01 ACtually religion doesn't, people do. The bible doesn't say gays go to hell. It does say it's against sodomy and rape though last I checked that means women who get it in the ass will go to hell with their partners. Also you go to hell and are stoned to death if you sleep with a woman in the same bed when she's on her period... yeah but we all ignore that lol. The bible doesn't openly say gays go to hell, PEOPLE interpret it as that.
@Infernatotely if it's open to interpretation like in the bible and the qur'an, then it's most likely both agaisnt homosexuality AND incest, along with the intricate rules about periods and such.
I don't care if he is the first elected black president of the US. He should keep his nose out of african's issue, when it comes to the matter of homosexuality. Is people like him, Malcom X called the house niggers.
I don't care if he is the first elected black president of the US. He should keep his nose out of african's issue, when it comes to the matter of homosexuality. Is people like him, Malcom X called the house niggers.
@peanutman52 Obama got rid of anti-gay policies in the Military. That would redeem his slow move on equality for GLBT people...of course that (or anything the man does) would still NOT permit the likes of YOU to praise our President.
There is no pleasing those who are determined never to be pleased. We are moving on with or without you! Life's too short to keep appeasing the unappeasable. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Your hate for Obama is greater than your love for this country.
@cancoms That's a silly thing to say, you could argue the opposite. Obviously his opinions are similar to that of his voters, that's why they vote for him...
Hypocrite. Yet I respect him more than the republicans who are against gay marriage, because Obama doesn't dare to say what he really means anymore, but we know from before what he thinks on this matter. @cancoms I think you're right in this case, but health reform, anyone?
There's a tremendous difference between being black and being homosexual. One's ethnicity is not the same as one's sexuality. It's highly offensive to compare a form of sexual perversion to being black. If someone is a homosexual, they don't need to bring ethnicity into the debate. The two aren't even close...and there are other things more suitable to compare it to than to slander blacks with unwarranted comparisons.
@me25422 The American Civil Right's movement had absolutely nothing to do with legitimizing homosexuality or any other type of sexual perversion...nor should it be used today to advocate any form of immorality under the guise of "civil rights".
@THManchesterMoon Obama is a supporter, but is also trying to be fair to the Republicans. After all, since the Republicans control a good portion of Congress, Obama has to be as fair as possible on the gay issues so that he can get his other bills passed. This is my argument: Obama isn't struggling on whether gay marriage should be legal. He's struggling over how strongly he should politically back up gay rights.
SantaCruzBeastMode 9 hours ago
@THNManchesterMoon You have issues. Obama is supporting gay marriage, and he realizes that nationalizing gay marriage would improve the nation.
SantaCruzBeastMode 1 day ago
@SantaCruzBeastMode How come equality and justice ever improve a nation, which have such different both cultures, beliefs and above all people?
THManchesterMoon 16 hours ago
You know what mister President? Gay marriage wouldn't fcking ruin your country!
THManchesterMoon 1 day ago
@THManchesterMoon When did he ever say that it would? He basically said he was for it. Gay and lesbian couples should have the same rights as a heterosexual couple. Did we not watch the same clip, or were you simply elaborating?
madeinheavenx 17 hours ago
@madeinheavenx I dont even live in the states, so i guess its not really my words to say. Tho i would like to say that if Obama seriously would want homosexual marriage to happen, and really find that equal rights should be, he would have made gay and lesbian marriage legal years ago!
THManchesterMoon 16 hours ago
@THManchesterMoon The thing is, everything he does has to be cleared by Congress. Every single thing he tries to get passed, it's ultimately up to them. At the end of the day, they're in charge, not him. I'm sure he would have made it legal long ago but there are so many steps to get through.
madeinheavenx 13 hours ago
@madeinheavenx Hes the president. He makes the rules break through. And i am in the belief that if he really would have gay marriage legal, like really seriously would, he would have done it bu now!
THManchesterMoon 11 hours ago
@THManchesterMoon Like you said, you don't live in the States, so the rules here are undoubtedly different than the ones from where you reside. Congress is, again, ultimately in charge of what passes and what doesn't. That's why our country is so fucked. Whomever is in office, the opposing party takes up most of Congress thus making it difficult to see eye to eye. Obama has already legalised same-sex marriage in eight states, I believe, and it can't be done all at once.
madeinheavenx 10 hours ago
@madeinheavenx You know, this is just one of the subjects where both part will keep coming with both good and bad argumanet, tho neither are going anywhere. So lets just cut this off, and all be friends .. :D
THManchesterMoon 10 hours ago
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"Gay marriage" is not the real issue. It is being promoted by those who want to destroy society.
We are being brainwashed into a mantra of "Equality and Diversity" by a liberal marxoid "elite".
A standard technique of brainwashing is to make an absurd decree, which flies in the face of tradition and common sense, and use the power of the state to enforce it. "Gay marriage" is a good example.
This is used to justify state interference in all aspects of people's lives.
johnzbarleycorn 1 day ago
like anne hathaway or however u spell her name said "love is a human experience not a political statement" im gay myself & i hate how big this topic is to people! i want to get married not gay married! i dont gay park my car i park my car i dont gay eat i eat my food! im a human being like everyone else so why cant i get married...not gay marriage just marriage!
STONIEisGONIM 2 days ago
i undestand this is a tough topic & for me being gay its nothing but a fairy tale fantasy that ive dreamed about since i was little growing up in this world where no one understands what its like to be controled by people forcing me to be something im not, im not strait & i cant be with a woman coz i dont feel the same as a real man would coz it wouldnt be fare on her as it would be fare on me to be in something arranged when my heart is already set on a dream that only i can find on my own
sagala30 3 days ago
RON PAUL
mhamadac 3 days ago
Gay people have been "struggling" over the issue for far longer than you have, Obama. Get over yourself
IAmLiberalBias 3 days ago
What's sad is that he's still way better than the GOP candidates.
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dgoren121692 2 days ago
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@madd0gsquid
My opinion is different. I think the way the Republican candidates fight like children is ridiculous, the way they push their religious agenda down our throats is wrong and midieval, and they way they actually think gay marriage belongs in a discussion while we have REAL problems is absurd. However, I think think any of them is way better than Obama. Obama's followers believe in govt intervention way beyond what is right for this country, hence my reasoning.
dgoren121692 2 days ago
@dgoren121692 That's a respectable opinion so we can agree to disagree. But I actually think gay marriage is a very valid issue as it pertains to the civil rights of a large group of people. To me it is the most important but that is only because i have a secure job future.
madd0gsquid 2 days ago
@madd0gsquid
I see what you're saying. I should have phrased it differently.Gay marriage should simply be legal everywhere, so we can concentrate on issues that are more complicated. I think you will find that explanation clearer. I am beyond frustrated, because I am a fiscal conservative and an advocate of limited government, but believe in personal choice and rights (i.e. Libertarian). Therefpre, I don't like either party but have voted Republican due to fiscal policies that to me are better
dgoren121692 2 days ago
@dgoren121692 Yeah I actually agree with you all the way. lol That's first on youtube.
madd0gsquid 2 days ago
@madd0gsquid
I know. Intelligent, respectable dialogue on youtube is extremely rare. Best to you.
dgoren121692 2 days ago
@dgoren121692 and to you
madd0gsquid 2 days ago
....I struggle with this... really? -_-
tuck295q 6 days ago
WHY WOULD YOU WANT TO LEGALIZE GAY MARRIAGE? GAYS MAKE UP LESS THEN 1 PERCENT OF THE USA. OBAMA YOU ARE THE WORST PRESIDENT IN THE WORLD !!!!
ANY OF THE TREE CANDIDATES WILL MAKE A BETTER PRESIDENT THEN YOU!
send2artem 6 days ago
@send2artem first of all, if they only make up 1%, then it shouldn't be a problem, and also, any one of the tree candidates? I know Mitt Romney likes the trees in Michigan, but really?
zllamamasters 5 days ago
@zllamamasters Thats what i don't get, why is it a problem.. Also i meant anyone is better then Obama, since he had been president he promised changed but nothing changed we are still at war and more in debt... and for the first 4 years hes kinda nice and quiet because he wants to get reelected again. But if he does win he will go all crazy...
send2artem 5 days ago
@zllamamasters Did you know that he wants to make it to where if you have a child that will have some sort of birth defect the doctor decides if the kid lives or gets aborted... The parents will have no say in it...
think about that!!!
send2artem 5 days ago
Pointless.
BlackAmericaUSA 1 week ago
RON PAUL 2012
netttels 1 week ago
I was okay with Democrats until this letting gays openly serve in the military BS
The military is not the place for gays to be parading around like (some) of them do. Military men and women need to be focused at all times and I can already se some of the distractions gays are causing. You can't impose on others rights to satisfy a few. When and where will it stop????
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 Fucking idiot.
TweekDash 1 week ago
@TweekDash LOL thats all you guys can do is name call anybody telling the truth. All these public figures are against you too. Their position won't allow them to be honest about it.
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 How was your hate-speech "telling the truth"? You're just a bigot with a keyboard.
TweekDash 1 week ago
@TweekDash haha and i'm the one with hate in my heart. I can't speak my opinion but you can speak yours and call me a name for having a different one lol.
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 How about you form an OPINION and not a false statement of fact?
TweekDash 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 What's wrong with openly serving? If someone has a problem with it, it's not a problem with the gay person, it's a problem with the one who has a problem.
You seem to be under the assumption that all gays are flamboyant, in-your-face-look-at-my-gayness. And, that's simply not true.
In fact, the only reason we come across as in-your-face is because it shows that we don't care about the oppression placed on us. It wouldn't be such a big deal if people didn't care so much.
KoreaxxLove 1 week ago
@KoreaxxLove All of you are guessing what it's like serving. You don't know what it's actually like and some of the situations you get put in. Dadt was a sacrfice for both sides of the fence. It's not right for some to be made fully comfortable and the other side to be walked over. Tat was the only medium. Nobody wants to hear how those against it feel. Only those who were making it sound horrible and their complaints
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 "It's not right for some to be made fully comfortable and the other side to be walked over." Exactly--that's why DADT was wrong. You don't know how uncomfortable it is for someone to be in the closet, and you don't know how stressful it is. I do, and I can tell you, it is HARD.
The other side SHOULDN'T feel uncomfortable. That's a problem with them.
However, suppressing your true self is uncomfortable for all.
KoreaxxLove 1 week ago
@KoreaxxLove No it's it's not. Nothing you just said is true lol. DADT was a middle ground for both sides. If everyone can't be happy no one should be happy. Both sides had to sacrifice something. We had to sacrifice being in close quarters, sharing community showers, and everything else we do on a daily with homosexuals we just couldn't identify the individuals. The other side was able to serve since that's all they "CLAIM" they want to do they just couldn't talk about that one personal issue!!
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 They could still serve and live their lives they just couldn't bring it around others. Now we're getting our rights and beliefs pushed aside and they get everything they desire. No need to call me a name you don't like how I feel and I don't agree with you (That gets settled with compromise from all parties)
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 Asking someone to stay in the closet is oppression. I would know.
People want to be who they want to be--that is a natural, God-given right--a right that they are serving to protect.
Believing that the guy in the shower next to you wants to do something to you just because he's gay is the problem--not the guy admitting he is gay.
If people just learn to get comfortable around gay people, in a few decades time, it won't matter. But, keeping things like DADT, makes it worse.
KoreaxxLove 1 week ago
@KoreaxxLove But thats what I'm trying to get you to understand. Some people in this country won't just accept this behavior. We have a right to religion also. Exercising our right we live as Christians which calls for us to separate ourselves from sin. We don't dislike anyone but we know what it is. We couldn't call ourselves his people if we didn't try to help (Not Judge). Asking someone to stay in the closet is oppression and telling someone not to exercise their religion is???????
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 What you don't understand is this: not accepting the behavior is a choice by someone else. It's bigotry. It's a problem with them.
No one said to not exercise your religion. You can exercise as you please. But, you do not have the right to oppress someone else. You can exercise your religion without discriminating against another group. Say you don't like it--whatever, but you can't discriminate.
It's not a sin. You wouldn't distance yourself from it just by not knowing about it.
KoreaxxLove 1 week ago
@KoreaxxLove Lol okay. My point exactly you can have all your rights and privileges but not those across the field.
floridaboy22 1 week ago
@floridaboy22 Expressing sexual orientation does not limit the rights of any group.
KoreaxxLove 1 week ago
if you're going to give someone a strong civil union that gives the same privileges as marriage, then why not give them marriage as well?
we don't ask our spouses to "civil union" us.
but still. obama's views have really progressed and i can't say i'm terribly upset over his ideas. he's one of the few people that can speak out against same sex marriages and i'll still respect him. he speaks his mind well and he tries to be open to other people and their feelings.
cinnabangaru 1 week ago
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Can anyone say appeasements for votes?!?! What a joke and no one see it.
LoXiekai 1 week ago
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LoXiekai 1 week ago
I consider myself pretty conservative, but honestly i don't know why they don't just make it legal already. I'm tired of hearing about it really doesn't affect me one way or another.
BLong114 1 week ago
It is UNConstitutional, to make gay marriage illegal with the basis that it destroys the "sanctity" of marriage.
natyanayaki 2 weeks ago
Obama is the truly the worst president we have ever had
SlyKittyable 2 weeks ago
@SlyKittyable
Can you give some reasons to back that up?
booshmaster82o 2 weeks ago
A rough translation would be: I haven't figured out which stance would get me the most votes yet..
lasoogneypubes 2 weeks ago
You wana debate about peoples liberties Obama? Really? Because you will lose.
TheIcelandicPatriot 2 weeks ago
Why do people hate gay people they are clean, in shape, well dressed, well educated think about it gays are so successful always because they do not have kids fuckin their shit up., until they are ready to have kids at any rate Obama believes in gay marriage he is just being a pus
talkindurinthemovie 2 weeks ago
@talkindurinthemovie
Ignorance..
9N8X 2 weeks ago
@9N8X no its not ignorant its true I love gay ppl
talkindurinthemovie 2 weeks ago
@talkindurinthemovie
I meant the reason people hate gays is because they are ignorant not that you are ignorant.
9N8X 2 weeks ago
@9N8X true hahaha!
talkindurinthemovie 2 weeks ago
THERE WILL BE NO HOMOS IN THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN!!!!!!!!!
MaAhKaAhLa 2 weeks ago
Oh my God...is Obama still "evolving" on this issue? It's enough to make a creationist.
booker1959 2 weeks ago
What he really means is that he struggles with his Iron-Age beliefs about what defines a union between two people.
How is it possible that we still have the same mentality of someone living in Afghanistan today? Remember the song we sang as kids "The B-I-B-L-E, yes that’s the book for me".
northoforacle 2 weeks ago
@northoforacle I'm glad he's struggling. That shows that he is an open enough person, an intelligent enough person, to rethink his opinions based upon the things he witnesses. That kind of self evaluation takes a very special kind of person. Good for him.
livinthegoodlife105 2 weeks ago
I feel very sorry for all of the countries then can not have the same rights as we have. America is so behind...
Jayratsena 2 weeks ago
My God Obama is really out of touch.
Thank - you England and Canada for allowing me and my husband to marry.
Jayratsena 2 weeks ago
hopefully its legal in Canada
Smokeweed38 2 weeks ago
I find it very hard to believe that all of these highly educated people care about the definition of marriage. Democrats and Republicans both have to dumb it down to keep supporters... ESPECIALLY Republicans.
Empty4330 2 weeks ago
if Obama was a dictator, you wouldn't be able to post "negative" things about him here on the good old PUBLIC internet...get a grip, you're losing touch with reality.
peachesandlily 2 weeks ago 20
@peachesandlily He is a dictator, look at the NDAA. He can solely order the indefinite detention of any citizen because they are a 'terrorist.' If that is not dictatorial, then I wish you luck....
asull822 2 weeks ago
@asull822 first off John McCain cowrote and sponsored that bill, and it passed through congress and the senate with almost no objections. I agree, its a stupid law...He had said he wasn't going to approve it at first, and then he did...Im not happy about it either. But to compare him to the likes of Stalin or Hitler...its way off base and ignorant.
peachesandlily 2 weeks ago
@peachesandlily but you do realize that your comment must be "approved" on certain Obama you tube channels, i commented on i think it was called"barackobamadotcom" and it wasn't shown on the site because it showed all of his failures. I can't even state my own opinion on a public you tube channel.
flywilly2 2 weeks ago
@flywilly2 havent personally been on that channel...but i know you can post whatever you want on the official white house channel...seen some pretty nasty things on there. If thats his personal channel, then i dont really see the difference between him (or more likely a staffer) moderating it then many other channels do. Thats their choice, which youtube has made available to every user.
peachesandlily 2 weeks ago
@peachesandlily look at what led up to Nazi Germany and look at our history over the past decade...
asull822 2 weeks ago
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@TheSngcoach -Hitler blamed the Communists for burning down the Reichstag, even though he did it, which led to laws that were supposed to 'promote national defense' like:
-Hitler's enabling act which is the same thing as the Patriot Act and allowed him to take away citizenship (Expatriation Act) and legalized the indefinite detention of citizens without a trial (NDAA) History repeats itself...
asull822 1 week ago
@asull822 So when is he gonna invade poland?
TheSngcoach 1 week ago
@TheSngcoach We've invaded Iraq, Libya, Egypt and are going to invade Iran soon.
asull822 1 week ago
@asull822
We haven't invaded egypt or libya and we are out of iraq...
9N8X 1 week ago
@9N8X Yes we did? We went into Libya and 'helped' the 'freedom fighters' (Osama Bin Laden was a freedom fighter, remember) and overthrew Qaddafi. Same thing goes for Egypt in Mubarak. And we did invade Iraq, just because we got out doesn't mean we never did get in. Watch the news and I'm sure they'll say "Iran is building nuclear weapons." This is the same thing they were saying about Iraq.
asull822 1 week ago
@asull822 Lol, you're being silly. You didn't invade egypt or libya. You actually supported mubarak for quite a long time, you never helped the people overthrow him. For Libya, that wasn't you either, that was Sarkozy.
TheSngcoach 1 week ago
@TheSngcoach We backed them like we backed Osama in the seventies, look what heppend with that. It's funny how we back freedom fighters all over the world except in our own country.
asull822 1 week ago
@asull822 I don't think comparing Obama to Hitler is really going well for you. You said "what happened over the past decade". Well, I can tell you one thing, you didn't back Osama over the past decade. Yes, Obama said that egyptians should have a right to protest, that is not the same thing as organizing militancy against the CCCP. So again, what happened the past decade? Not much, just a liberal president and some economic depression.
TheSngcoach 1 week ago
@asull822 If you want to compare someone or something with hitler or fascism in general, it will definitely help you if you know what hitler/fascism stand of, and lead to in the 30's. Geopolitics, how horrible it is sometimes (esp the Osama example), is not necessarily the same thing as invasion/Jewmurder. I'm just telling you you're being silly, and I'm being very explicit about it. Now go read a book about WWII plz. You can watch "apocalypse: rise of hitler" if you want. It's a NatGeo. docu.
TheSngcoach 1 week ago
@TheSngcoach So passing the NDAA and ACTA is OK?
Nazi Germany Passed laws against it's own people, Used heavy propaganda, Invaded countries, Killed a specific group of people(Jews)
United States Passes laws against it's own people, Uses heavy propaganda, Invades countries, Killing a specific group of people(Muslims)
The Republic is dying and a fascist police State is emerging. There is no difference between Democrats and republicans anymore. Ron Paul is the only different one
GOD719 3 days ago
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
@TheSngcoach Obama continued the war. He bombed Libya and increased the drone killing in Pakistan so yes both bush and Obama is fighting a war with "terrorist" Muslims. The banks run this country- Yes. "Ron Paul Naive on the Economy" How did he predict the housing bubble and the fall of the dollar if he is naive?. I ask one thing from you. Read quote from Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln. They are scary accurate to what is happening now
GOD719 3 days ago
@GOD719 "He bombed Libya" That was Sarcozy, he had a decent Casus Belli btw. Whether you agree with it or not, calling it an invasion is an error of judgement.
""terrorist" Muslims"
Why the "" around terrorist? You mean, people who fly planes into buildings aren't terrorists? People who hang children, just to gain control over their parents aren't terrorists? Please tell me this is not what you mean, you're only making it worse. Find some mental assistance please.
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
@TheSngcoach quotations is because we funded the Taliban to fight the soviets. They were our friends at one point but now those same weapons we bought for them is wounding and killing our soldiers. I bet you think Iran is bad too? We installed the shah back in the 50s to control their oil. They overthrew the shah and took hostages. Than we put Saddam into power to fight and kill Iranians. Our government has caused more problems around the world than any other nation.
GOD719 3 days ago
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@GOD719 "They were our friends at one point but now those same weapons we bought for them is wounding and killing our soldiers."
Cold war, sillyness.
"I bet you think Iran is bad too?"
No, Iran is pretty awesome, only those 2 psycho's that are running the country are loons.
"Our government has caused more problems around the world than any other nation."
Indeed, so Obama is not that bad after all?
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
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@TheSngcoach ""Our government has caused more problems around the world than any other nation."
Indeed, so Obama is not that bad after all?"
Oh, wait, I retract this. I don't think you win this yet. Maybe you're ehm... nr. 3 now, cause Germany is still nr. 1 (and honestly, they're hard to beat, they've got a looooong history), and UK is nr. 2.
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
@GOD719 "They were our friends at one point but now those same weapons we bought for them is wounding and killing our soldiers."
"We installed the shah back in the 50s to control their oil."
"They overthrew the shah and took hostages. Than we put Saddam into power to fight and kill Iranians."
Yeah, it's called history, now read about what lead to WWII as well, and you'll almost be a full person! Yeey! Also, none of what you said in your last post is actually Obama's fault, is it?
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
@TheSngcoach True Obama didn't start it. But he is continuing it. "Change" what into a fascist police state? You can't deny that when they pass laws like the NDAA and ACTA. Which is why I like Ron Paul. Ron Paul is the change that Obama supporters wanted. "the man who reads nothing at all is better educated than the man who reads nothing but news papers" Thomas Jefferson. Don't listen to the media. They are bought and all they report is opinions. They are not factual news anymore.
GOD719 3 days ago
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@GOD719 "They are bought and all they report is opinions."
I'm not an idiot.
"Ron Paul is the change that Obama supporters wanted."
You are. Many people just want normal things like get married, health care, decent wage. Ron Paul wants other things, like the gold standard. Stop being silly now please.
"You can't deny that when they pass laws like the NDAA and ACTA."
Again, that's not Obama, he's not your absolute monarch.
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
@TheSngcoach Also check these videos out and tell me what you think
/watch?v=G1zED8dy63w
/watch?v=PfxkcBmZfK0
/watch?v=qkhMwID-IYQ
GOD719 3 days ago
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@GOD719 "How did he predict the housing bubble and the fall of the dollar if he is naive?"
Because a monkey could've predicted that. The dollar didn't fall btw, it's still the nr. 1 currency. Silly, silly man. This is why he's naieve, for the same reasons his 'supporters' are.
"Read quote from Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln."
Yes, quote from Jefferson, and Lincoln, two relatively important figures who both only read 1 sentence, therefore I now know exactly what you mean.
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
@GOD719 I'm sorry to burst your bubble, but Obama is not an absolute monarch, so your youtube revolution is probably not gonna bring you the anarchy you want.
Also, Ron Paul is silly, just silly, for his ridiculous ideas (gold standard, laissez faire economy), and a little dubious in his financing. He's also naive, which is kind of endearing.
However, I do feel sympathy for him, since his republican colleagues are all kind of evil (except Perry, he probably doesn't know what he's saying)
TheSngcoach 3 days ago
@peachesandlily Wrong when they try for sopa again and pita then we can't laugh at you aye?
commie1388 1 week ago
@peachesandlily If someone were an exceptionally skilled dictator they'd allow the populace to feel as though they have a voice, a choice in their leader (a fake system of voting) and etc. Feeling like they were empowered through political action would stop them from taking PHYSICAL action and actually taking back their personal liberties through armed rebellion. We have no "Dictator" we have "Dictators" plural. Oh by the way, you miss SOPA? The internet wont be "public" for long
MrAcstyles 1 week ago
@peachesandlily Because the internet has yet to be regulated by the big government. My counter-argument to you is: SOPA, PIPA, and the PCfIP Act
LHSStuntman 1 week ago
@peachesandlily Yes but you can't post anything negative on his page. Obama Propaganda.
HansonjSolo 1 week ago
Rick Santorum 2012!!! Lets keep our Guns God and Consitution. Read Sarah Palin's book and y'all understand the truth.
shiwanthabm 2 weeks ago
Open your eyes people. This man is pure evil. You all will burn in hell for acknowledging Gays and Lesbians. May loard will have mercy on you all.
shiwanthabm 2 weeks ago
@tomboyanonymous you people should be able to have a debate about somthing without calling each other names like 5 year olds :/
103metallicafan 3 weeks ago
@tomboyanonymous look im not one to call names but i think you need to understand that even if obama was trying to be a dictator it wouldnt matter because i would rather have obama as president again then to have one of the republican canidts they are all liers as well and this race for presidency is between obama and mitt romney and mitt romney is just as much as a lier as you believe obama is and not to mention he is a biggot. and both of you guys sound like 5 year olds arguing with each other
103metallicafan 3 weeks ago
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@BlackAmericaUSA You're right, it's not bigotry to oppose homosexuality. Because you have a right to your opinion. You don't have to like us or be involved in our lives. But when you IMPOSE your beliefs on homosexuals, and interefer in our lives (whether it'd be professional, family, or love life) then we have a problem.
KujoDaTrollEater 3 weeks ago
and he says hes a christian...bullshit...
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
How about you look at the constitution Obama? People should have their liberties as long as they dont hurt or defame someone, some dude suckin dick is hurting or defaming me or any other american
12macsaw 3 weeks ago
I am straight, but if I grow up and have a child who is gay or lesbian, I want them to have the same rights as anyone else. Who wouldn't?
DaniDaSpazz 3 weeks ago
Who said "change" always means something positive ..
moddified360 3 weeks ago
GO TO HELL...FUCKING LIEING ASS BASTARD....WE SHOULD HAVE VETOED HIS ASS OUT OF OFFICE THREE YEARS AGO...
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
@tomboyanonymous
I will not listen to the opinion of someone who is stupid enough to think we 'veto' presidents out of office. Learn more about politics before you think you should have an opinion about it.
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW really yr telling me to listen to politics,im sorry...are u aware of what he did and been doing...hes a lier and continues to lie...he signed the NDAA martial law act that gives the president the authority to imprisonment any USA citezen to prison indefinitaly with a trial and he also signed the SOPA/PIPA/ACTA, that gives the governement the authority to shut down any website that upsets there statues quo..if that doesnt deserve a VETO..then yr more of an idiot then i thought
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
@tomboyanonymous
Don't call me the idiot, kid. Especially not when you can't even properly type out an argument. And, again, stop acting as if your opinion should have any sway over me, especially when you think a president is 'VETO'd'. I mean, seriously? Then you call ME and idiot?
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW awwww...did i hurt the idiots feelining...poor u...im not a kid for one...look up the word veto,,its too get ride of...to ban..banish..it has the same meaning as impeach..learn yr politics...little girl...and yr the one who called me stupid..u asked for it...dont be sayen stuff if u cant handle it..and three why dont u listen to him..and hopefully youll see threw his bullshit lies...he wants to be a dictator...and trying to be one...
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
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Really? You type like one. Then again, you also type like a conceited asshole, but I figure I'm not that far off. First of all, I know what veto means, you fucking idiot. We still don't use the word 'veto' when referring to kicking a president out of office. Two, it's not politics, it's a dictionary you want me to read, but it's not like you know anything about either of those. Three, I can handle it, but it's not deserved. Four, he's not trying to be a dictator, -c-
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW im a conceited asshole.yr the dumb bitch that wont wake up....wow...when yr the one who wrote to me first.and listen woman..u are an idiot if u dont think we should get ride of his ass and yes i do think hes trying to be a dictator hes already showing the signs by signing the NDAA martial law bill...when hes signed the SOPA/ACTA/PIPA there trying to censure us..and people like u are not doing anything about it..hes telling lie after lie..and now hes doing anything to stay in.
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW your the stupid bitch that wont wake up..and two i type real fast..i guess i have to dumb it down for u to understand i said learn yr politics, because of the word veto and impeach...they both have the same meaning...dumbass..to ban to get ride of...ect...if u dont think that we should impeach and kick his ass out..then like i said yr more stupid then i thought...hes passing laws that are bullshit..and too take mine and your freedom away...thats whats he doing with this war..
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
@NekiiFTW and further more..hes passing laws left and right that hitler and china has done numerous times..recently he passes a law stating that over thirty thousand drones can fly over the USA alone..to spy on us..there trying to bankrupt us by passing laws that will. there censureing ron paul..cuz there scared..and with dumbass like u..who wont wake up..and wont see whats hes doing..then he will be a dictator..WAKE UP..LEARN...before u start debating with the adults...
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
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and even if he was trying to be, you think that will happen? No. Lastly, I still give no fucks about name-calling. Especially sense you can't even spell feeling right. I mean, what the fuck?
NekiiFTW 3 weeks ago
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tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
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@NekiiFTW when i say learn your politics i mean exactly that..learn the plitical definition..and the politics that goes with it.....dont interfere with the adults..go back to your jersey shore...
tomboyanonymous 3 weeks ago
I've always felt like there should be no issue in allowing to people (may they be gay or straight) into a legal union. We promote freedom in this country yet do do the opposite by denying people there rights because of some ideological belief.
In the matter of religous cermony, i believe it goes against there beliefs and we should respect that. I think the more we seperate church and state the better off we will be.
RamirezRoyalty 4 weeks ago
Ron Paul for REAL CHANGE!
vide0gameCaster 4 weeks ago
a vote for obama newt rick or mitt is a vote for more war more spending less jobs all at your expence i offer this to think about rick and newt both lobbyest made millions mitt made more destoring companys sending jobs over seas has obama brought the troops home stopped the the wars no and he is tryng to start another war we can not afford with iran dont be the sucker they think you are dont let them back in office so they can do it again they will not stop spending your and your kids future
ford5522 4 weeks ago
You're 50 years old, and your opinion on this is still "evolving"?
What a fucking child. Being opposed to gay marriage is...incomprehensibly retarded.
chadachada123 4 weeks ago
@chadachada123 Not really. Especially for men. Its easy for women to be for it but harder for men in my opinion.
futuredoc2020 4 weeks ago
The irritating thing is that politicians make such an attempt to give no opinion at all and remain "on good, voting terms" with everyone that you're not really voting for a candidate anymore. Give your opinion. If people truly like what you're about, they'll support you 100%. If not, you don't really belong in a position of power anyway.
rosesandmetal 4 weeks ago
yes but today its not a crime * thumbs up * mr president
Rollerfahrer666 4 weeks ago
i think obama rick newt mitt need to go to their next war with iran they can take their kids not ours we need them who turned their back on america when it was their turn to serve in the military to lead from the frount not hide in the rear if we made them attend the war they would find hundreds of reasons they cant go like shoes need shining nothing to wear need nails done they have golf on that day well lets see what the chickens can come up with just betting their not going
ford5522 1 month ago
Our forefathers made it so THIS would never happen and presently we are going against the very fundamentals America was built on. RELIGION WAS NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER to be integrated into our government. The whole point of America was for freedom from religion now we're using religion as a BLOCK.
Infernatotely 1 month ago 30
@Infernatotely Too bad the fucking Republicans brought religion back into politics. Gay marriage doesn't have to do with religion, the only reason that it could POSSIBLY be because of religion is because of the Republicans messing around with it, saying that it is a sin and God doesn't want it.
soccerguy325 2 weeks ago
@Infernatotely it doesnt make any sense for homosexuals to marry, truth is marriage was introduced by religion, the same religions that say homosexuality is immoral. They already have unions, just doesnt make sense to marry.
ramo50ful 2 weeks ago
@ramo50ful It doesn't make any sense for women to marry. Truth is, marriage was introduced by religion, the same religions that say women are ownable, unclean, childbirthing machines who should be segregated from and not allowed the same rights of personhood as men.
Except, you know, marriage wasn't created by religion and the context of marriage has completely changed in the last few generations to be a statement of love all people should be entitled to make.
DreamerbyDeseption 1 week ago
@DreamerbyDeseption now youre not making any sense, Christianity says for women to marry men, Islam says for women to marry men, Judaism says for women to marry men. You can't just make stuff up cause you r frustrated. You want to know why God said for men to marry women, because the soul of a women has qualities that take the burden off the soul of a man and a man takes the burden off a soul of a woman. And of course to have children which are blessings from God and live in complete happiness.
ramo50ful 1 week ago
@ramo50ful Actually Paul tells everyone to abstain from marriage if they can avoid it, so you're wrong on at least one count.And if you want to believe all this lovey-dovey stuff about "God's" definition of marriage, fine. Just don't read the Bible or your feelings might be a bit hurt. At any rate, you completely missed my point.
DreamerbyDeseption 1 week ago
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ramo50ful 1 week ago
@ramo50ful My point was that saying gay people shouldn't get married because people who follow certain religions think of them as immoral is as illogical as saying women shouldn't get married because people of certain religions think of them as immoral and mistreat them because of it (which, is pretty common in the religions you listed).
DreamerbyDeseption 1 week ago
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@DreamerbyDeseption I'm actually a Muslim, could care less what the bible says, you should read what the Quran says about marriage it makes a lot of sense actually. "Your wives are a garment for you, and you are a garment for them." (2:187) So a husband and wife complete each other - each one takes on a new aspect of their humanity. "He himself created the pair, male and female." (Qur'an 53:45)...In Islam women are not considered immoral, there status is elevated compared to other religions.
ramo50ful 1 week ago
@DreamerbyDeseption Islam ENDED the common practice in pre Islamic Arabia of burying infant girls (pretty sick stuff) because they were thought to bring dishonor. Islam gave women rights with regards to marriage, divorce, civil rights, legal status, dress code, and education. Islam elevated the status of women and says they are equal to men. It might surprise you what the Quran says about women. In the Quran it says heaven lies at the feet of your mother.
ramo50ful 1 week ago
@ramo50ful Religion does not have a monopoly on marriage. It is now and has always been a legal contract that we recently have begun to attach love to. Religions just administered them for a part of our history, just like they used to administer all forms of health care and education. That doesn't mean that the non-religious shouldn't learn or go to the doctor because those who used to ritualize these things disagree with something about us.
DreamerbyDeseption 1 week ago
@DreamerbyDeseption Look you can't say that marriage is changed now to stand for love one feels for another. What if someone is in love with a horse, why shouldn't we legalize marriage to that horse. Or what if someone is in love with an inanimate object, why can't we let them marry the car or wall...without religion or prophets morals would not have been introduced, no one would care about marriage or starting a family, they would be promiscuous. Adam the first man on earth was married to Eve
ramo50ful 1 week ago
@Infernatotely Well said bro
laird47 2 weeks ago
@Infernatotely America has always contradicted its self..always
talkindurinthemovie 2 weeks ago
@Infernatotely Ma fo fathas say you GAY!!!
TheGuinnessboys 2 weeks ago
If you're gay you can get out of america.
TheJahool 1 month ago
Dude, no need to struggle with it - u are NOT in charge of a Christian or Islamic nation. If u were, u wouldn't even have this to discuss.
You cannot force some spiritual law to a nation that is predominantly not-so-spiritual.
This is a world government controlled by its god (satan). So get on with ur job and leave the theocratic business to the Kingdom of God
too4ny 1 month ago
hes trying too hard not to be controversial. Like most politicians, they just say things to please the public. If he gets re-elected, I bet he comes out 100% behind gay marriage because he won't have "anything to lose". ALL politicians are calculated and fake.. even Obama. Sad but true
beesave 1 month ago 2
@beesave i keep saying to my friends, the second term he gets he's gonna be like "no more mr nice guy."
humbl3fact 2 weeks ago
why are people so hung up about marriage. religion set this whole bullshit marriage system up, religion says that gays and lesbians are damned to hell. that's that. if you're gay and religious, then that's your problem. sorry folks.
lloydgar01 1 month ago
@lloydgar01 ACtually religion doesn't, people do. The bible doesn't say gays go to hell. It does say it's against sodomy and rape though last I checked that means women who get it in the ass will go to hell with their partners. Also you go to hell and are stoned to death if you sleep with a woman in the same bed when she's on her period... yeah but we all ignore that lol. The bible doesn't openly say gays go to hell, PEOPLE interpret it as that.
Infernatotely 1 month ago
@Infernatotely if it's open to interpretation like in the bible and the qur'an, then it's most likely both agaisnt homosexuality AND incest, along with the intricate rules about periods and such.
lloydgar01 1 month ago
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I don't care if he is the first elected black president of the US. He should keep his nose out of african's issue, when it comes to the matter of homosexuality. Is people like him, Malcom X called the house niggers.
cats889 1 month ago
I don't care if he is the first elected black president of the US. He should keep his nose out of african's issue, when it comes to the matter of homosexuality. Is people like him, Malcom X called the house niggers.
cats889 1 month ago
@peanutman52 Obama got rid of anti-gay policies in the Military. That would redeem his slow move on equality for GLBT people...of course that (or anything the man does) would still NOT permit the likes of YOU to praise our President.
There is no pleasing those who are determined never to be pleased. We are moving on with or without you! Life's too short to keep appeasing the unappeasable. You should be ashamed of yourselves. Your hate for Obama is greater than your love for this country.
fannynoise 1 month ago
I think obama just wants people to like him..his opinions are based on the majority of his fans/voters
cancoms 1 month ago
@cancoms That's a silly thing to say, you could argue the opposite. Obviously his opinions are similar to that of his voters, that's why they vote for him...
de10394 1 month ago
Hypocrite. Yet I respect him more than the republicans who are against gay marriage, because Obama doesn't dare to say what he really means anymore, but we know from before what he thinks on this matter. @cancoms I think you're right in this case, but health reform, anyone?
726rach 1 month ago
There's a tremendous difference between being black and being homosexual. One's ethnicity is not the same as one's sexuality. It's highly offensive to compare a form of sexual perversion to being black. If someone is a homosexual, they don't need to bring ethnicity into the debate. The two aren't even close...and there are other things more suitable to compare it to than to slander blacks with unwarranted comparisons.
BlackAmericaUSA 1 month ago
@BlackAmericaUSA sexual perversion? Have you not learned anything from the American Civil Right's movement?
me25422 1 month ago
@me25422 The American Civil Right's movement had absolutely nothing to do with legitimizing homosexuality or any other type of sexual perversion...nor should it be used today to advocate any form of immorality under the guise of "civil rights".
BlackAmericaUSA 1 month ago
@BlackAmericaUSA Sure it did. Its about civil rights. Blacks, women , and gays.
me25422 1 month ago
@me25422 Hmmmm...smells like revisionist history to me.
BlackAmericaUSA 1 month ago