We're not talking about some consumer product where the inferior product often wins, since it is the best marketed one. Witness the Iphone or Ipod despite being technically inferior and more expensive people are too stupid to know better.
No, when it comes to the rich and famous, the best product almost always wins.
300 Veyrons have been sold. There were orders for more.
How many SSC's have been sold?? How many tested? How many praised by famous engineers??
@McLarenMercedes First off, the Apple example was terrible, because they were FAR supererior. There is a reason customer satisfaction is much higher. But that is not what this is about.
@McLarenMercedes The amount sold means NOTHING, if you have a brain and can comprehend logic. How many people have heard of SSC? What is its heritage? It is a new brand with no heritage. Most people bought a Bugatti for the name. Bugatti is a name that has been around forever synonymous with exotic cars. For someone that knows 5% about cars they will know what Bugatti is. It doesn't matter if it is half as good as the SSC, it is what they know...
@McLarenMercedes When it comes to the Bugatti, it is bought as a status symbol. It shows your wealth. The Ultimate Aero is made to be a performance car. It isn't about image, it is about driving. It is a better CAR. It is faster, lighter, more powerful, more fuel efficient, easier to maintain, and just more fun to drive. The Veyron is for those that want to show off their wealth.
To me the SSC is a much better car because, well, it does what a car is supposed to do better.
@TheOfficialKC Very well put. Guess he doesn't know that every Aero built was sold well before it was finished being built. SSC doesn't have the means that VW has to produce Veyrons.
I really like both and agree the aero out performs, but at that much horse power and speed some electrics is necessarily for some this day and age. I don't really like buy-est reviews but you did most of your homework. You just went overboard in the end lol. great video tho.
@TheFatFunnyChannel As every person that has driven the Aero has said, it doesn't need electronics. The engine isn't a 1200hp beast, but a very tame car. It drives like a stock 430hp V8 when driven easy, but can deliver 1200hp when asked. Just ask Nelson Racing Engines, they do this with 2000hp V8s. With today's turbos and fuel injection it is possible. In fact, the lack of electronics is what makes it fun and exciting. Shows off how well the engineering is, not to band-aid to cover up mistakes.
@blub3145 You can prove half of it biased without looking for sources? Wouldn't doubt it, but if you actually did look at sources you would see that my video is 100% correct.
@blub3145 I can't wait to see what BS you post. I have heard it all before from Veyron fanboys and torn it all apart. You could just save yourself(and me) the time and effort, and just see the truth. Just look at the facts and use your brain to understand the logic. I know it is hard for Veyron fanboys to think, but give it a try.
The Ultimate Aero, not the 1287hp updated Aero, even beats the Veyron Super Sport. It passes the SS in .11 miles where it is going 135mph and the SS is going 120mph. The UA keeps pulling away. The SS has more power and less drag than the standard Veyron. The 2009-11 UA has less drag and more power than the tested UA. It would pull away significantly more.
ur link leads to the video were posting here, i watched ur video, but i wanted independent proov for ur posted times, no read them again. Cause i doubt anyone could ever verify sscs 0-100 2.78 seconds.
not with a car with 1000+ hp, rwd, no launch control (?) and "wheelspin at 310 km/h" i even doubt someone ever passed 3.2 secs
why is 0-60 stupid? they veyron has 1000+ hp and is the fastes street legal car to 60. I watched this video, but i wanted independent proof, and dont think someone with a youtube account named "assholela" owns a ssc. U can clearly see, that he cut the sscs gps speedo out of another video, i want to see the original and want to know who recorded it.
i guess its either from ssc or someone animated it based on sscs unrealistic figures.
@blub3145 Assholela does not own an SSC. But the GPS data is direct from SSC and Bugatti. Of course you would deny any data I post because you don't want to believe it. Normal Veyron fanboy reaction.
Why is 0-60 stupid? Even a 530hp Nissan GT-R gets the same 0-60. When you are talking 1000hp cars, 0-60 is barely the start of the race. They have so much power, it is more potential than the tires can handle. So high speed acceleration is a much better test of power, weight and aerodynamics.
So u wouldnt post any facts cause i dont belive them or cause they didnt exist? i bet u coulnt post 0-100 times from indepentend testers, cause the 2.78 are faked as hell.
oh and 2.5 seconds are not the same as 2.9, there r worlds between.
Of course "high speed acceleration is a much better test of power, weight and aerodynamics."
but 0-60 is the better test for transmission and electronics, so what?
Oh and comparing UA with "wheelspin at 310" to an f1 cause both have no driving aids is well... eighter u dont know that much about cars or u just want to glorfiy the UA.
@TheOfficialKC You're arguing with someone who can't even type in compete sentences. It's like trying to read a 4th grader's homework. Why do you take people like that seriously?
@177SCmaro Well, I TRY to give people a chance, I try to help them learn. I definitely did not respond to his last comment because it was completely not understandable.
@TheOfficialKC If that's the case more power to you, I suppose. Still, reading some of the comments on this video and the rest of youtube I'm rapidly becoming convinced somewhere around 20% of the population can't even type coherently. I just don't see the point in arguing with idiots is all.
@TheErickkkk The SSC can hold more like 2.5 adults comfortably. The interior is designed specifically to fit people in a wide range of heights, even up to 6'6" comfortably. It also has a decent amount of luggage space. It isn't your average passenger car, but neither is the Veyron.
@TheErickkkk Actually, 27mpg isn't that outrageous when you look at the design. A 3800lb Camaro SS gets 24mpg. The UA basically has a more efficient LS3 with twin turbos. So when cruising at 1500rpm down the highway the turbos aren't hurting gas mileage, so it is essentially a more effiecient LS3 in a car that has better aerodynamics and only weighs 2750lbs.
the bugatti veyron is not cheaper hahahahahahahahaa it is the most expansve car in the world daaada the ssc ultimate aero is 650,000$ but the veyron is 900,569 billon$.
This is the most bias opinionated comparison I have seen between these two cars. THEOFFICIALKC must love sucking cock. The opinion you have on the styling of the Veyron is a complete joke - saying that the UA is styled better. Send me some of that weed, Id like to try it.
@GraveUypo Can you give me some reasoning? Of course I am trying to prove my point with this and that is biased, but I do so with facts and logic. Can you explain what you feel is very biased about this please?
Well to begin with, in this comparison the ultimate aero beat the veyron at EVERYTHING. that just doesn't happen in reality, ever.
there's a lot of personal opinion in there (some of which i happen to agree with, but it's still personal opinion) and you're calling those "facts". That aside from a lots of "ifs" and paper stats.
Also all the "quotes" are not only personal opinions, but also hand picked to make the aero look better than it actually is.
@GraveUypo Okay, I can see where you are coming with. But let me clear some up.
I don't claim every word is fact, but my logic is based on facts to argue what we don't have actual facts for. For example, top speed. If someone told you that a car with more aerodynamic drag, more weight and less power was faster would you believe them? Given the same road conditions the laws of physics will tell you the Ultimate Aero would be faster.
@GraveUypo So based on facts it is illogical to argue for the Veyron SS, even though it has posted a faster top speed. THIS is the point of the video. We don't have good comparison data between these cars, so I use what facts are available to draw conclusions about what would happen in the real world.
The thing is, while you may say it is opinion, when you look at the facts you can't argue against what I said.
@TheOfficialKC the only fact is that the veyron SS has a faster official record set. unfortunately until someone takes a veyron and an ultimate aero to the same track, all those theories are only that.
i know how veyron fanboys can be annoying (they're actually 60% of the reason i HATE that car).
Like i said, i like the ultimate aero better than the veyron (even the SS), so i'm done playing devil's advocate :P
@TheOfficialKC the only fact is that the veyron SS has a faster official record set. unfortunately until someone takes a veyron and an ultimate aero to the same track, all those theories are only that.
i know how veyron fanboys can be annoying (they're actually 60% of the reason i HATE that car).
Like i said, i like the ultimate aero better than the veyron (even the SS), so i'm done playing devil's advocate :P
@GraveUypo Now about those quotes. The reason I posted those quotes is because you will never see a Veyron fanboy bring them up. Yes, I am trying to prove a point and these facts help that.
So are they facts? Well if someone tested a Viper ACR and a Veyron and said the Veyron is louder inside I consider that a fact. They said the stereo sucks, I take that as fact.
If that isn't a fact, how would you measure stereo quality as fact? I think they have enough experience with car stereos to judge.
Ok so if the super sport can do 267 why didnt top gear Max it to 267? They only maxed it to 417km/h (259mph) also if you look at the speedometer on the standard veyron it goes up to 420km/h in which is 260mph (Alrite I'm confused)
@asphaltassault100 The standard Veyron maxes out at 253mph. That was tested. They can put a speedometer showing 500mph, but it still only can go 253.
On Top Gear James May drove the Super Sport to 259mph, but the professional test driver did 268mph after that. Production Super Sports are limited to 258mph.
@HowToMake3135 Congratulations on being an idiot. First, the Veyron will NOT do 267. The Super Sport will do 267mph. And if you can read you will see this video was made before that car existed.
very nicely done my man. But you stopped just short of what I tell everyone; the Veyron is fat, globulous and fugly. Feel free to use that line if you like.
@brudel001 Every UA made had a owner before it was made, so asking the owner can we use your car for testing is kinda hard. The only cars they used for testing were prototypes, which weren't perfect. They had all sorts of bugs that eventually got fixed for production models, which are owned before they're made.
@OneManArmy4Life , "Every UA made had a owner before it was made, so asking the owner can we use your car for testing is kinda hard."
Most of the supercars used in top gear - zondas, rare lambos, koenigseggs are owners cars not factory provided. Only factory provided veyron was the SS.
Lots of shittalking and veyron bashing. But the fact is that people who are rich enough to test drive and buy whatever car they want and who allready have big garage full of allkinda supercars prefer veyron. Allmost 400 veyrons sold and not even 10 Aeros sold speaks for itself. Lots of veyron review videos and pretty much no aero review videos speak for itself. US teen fanboys who have been raised in propaganda that everything made by US is greatest should pull their head of out their arse.
@brudel001 Apparently you don't understand facts. Or logic. More people bought Veyrons because A) It says "Bugatti" on it and B) VW has more money for marketing.
SSC didn't have the time or BUDGET to have test drives(no you couldn't go test drive one, as soon as a UA was finished it was shipped to the owner) or do mag tests.
I have read MANY personal accounts of the difference between the UA and Veyron. The UA is WAY faster and more fun to drive.
@TheOfficialKC, Fact is that superrich who buy things like that aren't idiots - they buy whats best. The statement that SSC didn't have time or budget to test the car is retarded because mags and tv shows will be standing in line to test car and the publicity gained is huge. Ofcourse if the car is shit its better to hide it away and not let anyone test it who might say the truth. Theres huge amount of veyron tests and videos out there - still not one UA video made by "proud" owners.
@brudel001 Fact is MOST people that buy supercars do so to show off their money. Not because they want the best car.
Again, SSC only made cars that people ORDERED. So every car had to be sent to its owner right after it was finished. Customers generally don't want people to beat up their brand new car before they get it. SSC is a self funded company, they DON'T have the money to build extra test cars. Nor the time since all their time went to building customer cars.
@TheOfficialKC, those assholes who got rich overnight and need to show off can't afford and maintain Veyron - they buy ferraris and lamborghinis. Not even 25 people have been interested of buying a UA and 25 is actually a number needed to produce to be officially a production car. Also if SSC can't even afford a test car for proper testing then I don't wonder why people don't want to buy deathtrap like that.
@brudel001 I never said anything about people who got rich overnight. Look at the majority of rich people, look at actors, they don't know SHIT about cars. 90% of the time, at least, people buy exotic cars to show off. The Veyron is a show off car.
And there is no rule that you need to make 25 cars to be a production car. They have to meet government restrictions, they have serial numbers and are road legal. Guinness accepted them as production, they have more credentials then you.
@brudel001 EVERY review of the SSC RAVES about it. Even Top Gear. A Top Gear tester drove an EARLY car, the record car, and said it handles great and out accelerates a Veyron easy.
Jay Leno raved about it and said it is better than the Veyron, in his video and two articles.
Businessweek raved about it.
Just because VW can afford the marketing doesn't make the Veyron a better car.
The Veyron is about being outrageous and fancy. The SSC is about performance and fun.
@TheOfficialKC, I havent seen any serious review of SSC, there are ofcourse couple of commercial "reviews" like the businessweek one and thats pretty much it. Jay Leno may like the car but he's not a racing driver and you can't seriously review a 1200HP car by cruising around at 50 in city. Also if they can't seriously test the car since the owners don't wnat their cars thrashed then where do all those "every review's" you mention come from? :-D
@brudel001 No serious reviews? Businessweek, Jay Leno, Top Gear, Supercars Exposed are ALL serious reviews. And they all rave about it.
I never said there are lots of reviews, is 4 a lot? Maybe for your brain. And guess what, there isn't a single performance review. Why? For the reasons I said before. Would you want your brand new, 1200hp supercar taken to the limit before you have driven it or even broken it in? Didn't think so.
@TheOfficialKC, That businessweek crap isn't a review - some guy just cruises around bit and talks what SSC told him. Jay Leno is okay but hes not pushing the car and hes not professional driver. Also he's an american. Do I want my car to be taken to the limit? FYI all the supercars are tested before shipped - every lambo or ferrari is driven around countryside and on track by test driver. Every veyron is taken to its topspeed before shipped to ensure it can do what promised.
@brudel001 Just to point this out, Koenigsegg didn't have any decent reviews until the CCX. That is the THIRD generation of their car, and Koenigsegg had more money then SSC to start with. Why don't you start your own company, build a quality car and afford to have test cars, all while funding the company with your own money you made if it is so easy?
They focus on the car, not the marketing. Anybody who has been in one will tell you the quality is on par with Koenigsegg.
@TheOfficialKC, if you can't do something properly then don't do it at all - especially if dealing with something peoples lifes depend on. So they don't have test model, they obviously don't crash test it - so is the UA even legal in Europe, is it legal in all the states or only in couple where it s legal to marry your own sister?
@brudel001 About Jay Leno; no he isn't a race car driver. Are you? Didn't think so. So why do you need to see a race car driver review it? It is more realistic to see a normal person, the type of person that BUYS these cars, review it. DUH.
It is easy to make a 1200hp car, but showing it can cruise around the city with no problem is the hard part, so the review is actually very good. It shows the quality, refinement, comfort, etc.
@TheOfficialKC, Normal person can't make a lot of difference between 700 or 1000HP cars since he hasn't got skill to take either of them to the limit. But talking about normal person you took quite a slippery road there. For a normal person the veyron is a lot better car than UA since 1200HP manual RWD car in the hands of a average driver is a accident about to happen. Ofcourse when just cruising around at 50 theres not much difference but in that case might aswell drive a prius.
@TheOfficialKC, so youre talking BS - first you say that "they ship cars straight to owners and thats why theres no reviews" but at the same time you say that theres lots of reviews where they did proper tests and it was best car evar. If the SSC can't afford open marketing and letting magazines do proper reviews with racing driver behind the wheel driving hard on track sharing thoughts, and If they can't even afford one testcar then its hard to believe they can afford a quality build at all.
@brudel001 If you want performance just watch the GPS on the top speed run of the Ultimate Aero. If you time it yourself you can clearly see it does 0-200mph in under 16 seconds. The Veyron does 0-200 in 24 seconds and the SS does it in 22s.
If you still can' understand logic, just wait for the Tuatara. SSC has more money and they are going to devote more to testing. Just so you know, SSC already has more orders for Tuataras then they ever sold UAs. Game over.
@TheOfficialKC, where do you get these numbers? Thats not even important. Anything can be fast if theres enough power behind it - question is can it deliver in all the categorys. For example John Hennessy himself said that theres no point of comparing Venom GT to Veyron since they built the venom just to be fast. About Tuatara - it now costs twice as much as UA and its easy to sell lot more since the other din't selle a shit.
So Yeah I guess for added price of another UA it should be better.
@brudel001 what in the world would ever lead you to believe that joe bloe average person would ever have the opportunity to look at, much less drive that butt ugly Bugatti?
@rolwhit, well I don't see the logic between being superrich and thus automatically being a driving god unless that someone a formula one driver or something.
@brudel001 veyron(non ss) vs ssc....speed the ssc...luxury the Veryon by far.....Euro vs US, since when has America been known for their epic cars? thats more the Veyron has goin for it.....price the SSC is also cheaper(tada less luxury = less price,right?) not to mention the SSC is a rougher ride. alot of people want a smoother ride. the ssc isnt what most people want, wich is a car thats going to drive harder....love for both cars cause i cant afford either XD
the objective evidence is already in the video response. Get over it. SSC is faster. Not because the logic or physics say so, but it actually is. When SSC is at 400kmh, bugatti at 350kmh.
Your turn :) Can't wait to see what Aero comes with!
We should thank y'all for picking up the gauntlet ... we wouldn't have cars like these without some competition so manufacturers have something to prove.
also, the veyron is top speed car, it is production but i don't see it meant to be driving on regular roads. your video also seems very biased to me. not trying to be mean but i felt like this was a why the ultimate aero is better than the bugatti video. you need to balance it out
first off, i love both cars. but you should have used the supersport version of the bugatti because that version was specifically meant to combat the aero
@sportagus3 The Super Sport didn't exist when I made this video.
You may call it biased, but the reasons proving the UA better are facts and logic. I can't change that. Everything you will ever read or watch about a car will be biased one way or the other. Do you go bitch about Veyron videos being biased? They are WAY WAY WAY worse than this because at least I use facts and logic. And that is the point of this video, prove a point but being fair and using facts and logic.
@TheOfficialKC 1st off, be nice. I'm not trying to start anything or argue with you we are both lovers of the UA. 2nd, I wasn't bitching I was expressing my opinion before reading the description as you can see from my earlier comments if you read them. If not they are there. 3rd, your video is biased lol. you said so in your description. you should toss in some advantages the veyron has over the ultimate aero and then i would agree with you. Lastly, I hope you had a nice day =)
@sportagus3 Like I said before. EVERY video comparing things, or any book, article, etc., will be biased in some way. I obviously like the UA better, but it is only because of what it does. I backed everything up with facts and logic. Something Veyron fanboys can't do.
I would gladly toss in some advantages of the Veyron, I just couldn't find any.
american made used to be good until now, where underneath that BUILT IN AMERICA sticker is a MADE IN CHINA sticker. Your country is built around rich greedy white men, your fellow americans starve at night while the rich sleep happily. Great country, oh and i forgot about the whole healthcare thing. Let your countrymen be thrown out of hospitals. Ya'll should be real proud.
@guidotheguy There are some rich greedy white men here, there are also lots of really sincere rich people. I guarantee there are lots of greedy rich people where you are from. Somehow we just happened to get too many liberals.
But our supercars, and in fact LOTS of our cheaper cars, are truly built in America.
@guidotheguy It is Alcantera(same material European luxury car brands use, including Ferrari and Porsche) and Carbon Fiber. So yes, it is classy. And it isn't meant to be retardedly luxurious to compensate for lack of performance. It is designed to be minimalist and light. It is designed to not be distracting or cumbersome, but focused on the driving experience. It is uncluttered but still gives you all the luxury you would want. And a much bigger rear view screen than the Veyron.
@guidotheguy During the era of Ford's first moving assembly line (thank us American's when you get a chance) we were going through the great depression. People salvaged all that they could and used what they had live off of. Fast forward eighty years and the generation of people who went through the depression had children and taught them to make things last as well. Anyway knowing that most people would buy things to be supportive of America the companies produced cheap cars and they still are.
I think you're not thinking correctly. If I were to go up to a person from France who lets say lives out in the country secluded from modern things and he had invisible friends would I automatically think all French people were crazy. Of course not, It is funny the few hillbilly red-necks who seem to apparently speak for all of Americans. We are educated, intelligent, and the Aero SS is a fast sports car it's not meant to be luxurious. Look up the features of any new Cadillac your are wrong..
@camargo2012 This video was obviously made by a fan boy, you cannot say the video states FACTS then put in something someone said (it would go another 10 mph, fact is it did not) plus the fastest car still to date in 2011 is the Bugatti Veyron SS :)
@TheSydguy30 I am not a "fanboy", just a fan of the UA. Fanboys are uneducated trolls.
This video is based on facts. Even my 10mph faster claim. By using logic and the known facts you can easily see that 265mph is possible in the old UA much less the updated 2009+ version. What I left out, and shouldn't have, is the aerodynamic stats.
The drag area of the Veyron is 8.02, the UA is 6.78 and the 2009 UA is 6.44.
@TheSydguy30 Some of the information in this video is second hand testimonial, I'll grant you that. But some of it really is factual. Too often the Veyron and Aero are judged superficially. When you look at all (or at least most) of the factors surrounding these cars it leads me to think that the Aero isn't so deserving of all the criticism it gets and the Veyron is not quite so deserving of the tons of praise it gets.
@TheSydguy30 It is even more clear when you consider the Veyron SS has a drag area of 7.754 and 1183hp. So the 2009 UA has less drag(6.44) and more power(1287hp).
The UA should easily break 270mph given the same road as the Veyron. Put the Veyron on the road SSC did 257mph on and it might break 230.
Now consider the Tuatara has a drag area of 5.904 and 1350hp.
Also, check out the video response, and others from Assholela.
@TheSydguy30 i had been in contact with SSC, bugatti and engineers what this guy is stating on this video is a real fact.... if the ultimate aero were to make a speed test on the same track as the veyron it could easily hit 270 MPH.
@frozenskipper Super Sport ONLY has a higher top speed. So? The SSC accelerates faster, it handles better, it is more fun to drive, it is actually possible to service it, it is cheaper to buy and own, it gets better MPG(technological achievement). Are you ever going to do 250+? No, so for everything else the SSC is 100% better.
Also, the reason SSC only hit 256mph is because it was on a short road with a S-bend midway and bad camber. The SS would be lucky to hit 240mph on the same road.
Bugatti has sold 300 Veyrons to the rich and famous. They could have sold more but want to keep it exclusive. Commercially there's really no comparison.
"Cheaper to buy and own". Sigh. You don't get it do you? Rich people don't bother with bargains like ordinary people that want to save a few bucks here and there. Premium products will ALWAYS be more expensive. You can't charge the same price for an inferior product. What's wrong with you?
@McLarenMercedes There is a big difference between making a superior product and having superior marketing. SSC is a VERY SMALL company. They funded it themselves. They designed and built a car that is faster than the Veyron. It cost them far more money than they expected.
Bugatti is owned by VW, SSC doesn't have that kind of backing. VW has the marketing to back up the product, or in this case make it look better than it is.
@McLarenMercedes SSC, again, is a small brand. They are very new, building their first car, they have no name and no history. To expect them to sell in quantities like the Veyron is just moronic. Be realistic and compare them to Koenigsegg. Koenigsegg sold 6 of their first model in 3 years. SSC sold 15 in 4 years. So it is actually impressive.
@McLarenMercedes People buy Bugatti for the name. Bugatti is a brand that made amazing cars for a long time. So people that buy their cars for bragging rights(actors, rappers, etc) rather than people who actually buy the car for the experience are going to buy the one they have heard of.
Would you rather be seen as part of the group who buys a car for immage or because the car is better to drive/own?
No no no. You're so sad I don't even know where to start. First of all can you please show a roadtest of the SSC in which it is PROVEN that it accelerates faster. Without the launch control the Veyron has I found that hard to believe. Handles better huh? Again, proven WHERE? Why don't they drive one on Nurburgring or any other racetrack to prove that they are in top class like Koenigsegg did with their CCX and Pagani with their Zonda F.
@McLarenMercedes Again, SSC didn't have the marketing ability to test their cars. When you only produce 15 cars it is hard. Koenigsegg didn't prove their car until their 3rd model. Again, expecting SSC to do with their first model what Koenigsegg did with their 3rd is just moronicc. Get a clue. Try and start your own supercar company, design a car faster than the Veyron and be able to market it like established companies. Come on man, THINK.
"No, so for everything else the SSC is 100% better".
Oh a nice round 100%? That statement alone qualifies you as a JOKE. What, you're not saying it's 43% better, or 67% or even 72,45% better. No no no, Mr. I-can't-tell-shit-from-shoeshine-but-still-think-I-won't-make-an-embarrassment-of-myself here KNOWS it's 100%. He knows this from his great knowledge in "automotive engineering".
Tell you what. YOU work at some local auto repair shop where you change tires and oil on trucks
@TheOfficialKC Well, the thing is, if you own an ssc, you have to live with it knowing it is the SECOND fastest car out there, and will never be as cool, prestigious, comfortable or as good looking. As a car to buy and own, sure it's far far better, but if you can afford an SSC or an SS then gas mileage won't really matter will it?
@frozenskipper I could live with the SSC being the less prestigious car. Why? Because I son't have a self esteem problem and need to show off to get friends. I would buy a car for how fast it is, how well it works for what it is designed and how I would drive it. For all those reasons the SSC is better. It will beat the Veyron in a drag race (the Veyron is only faster 0-60), it will far outhandle the Veyron, it will be MUCH more fun to drive, it will be quicker in real world situations.
@frozenskipper Looks is subjective and I personally think the Veyron looks like a fat toad. The SSC looks better to me, even though it aint no K'segg.
It is only officially the fastest, but if I bought one, with the money I would save, i would have it tested on a track long enough for the car to reach its top speed and prove that it is in fact faster than the Veyron SS. (the original Aero ran out of room and the newer ones have 104hp more)
@TheOfficialKC Well, where the veyron may look like a fat toad, the SSC looks like an over run toad. And no car is a K'segg, maybe except the zonda cinque. But i agree, the SSC probably is a better handling and faster accelerating car than the veyron, but i just really like it. :)
@TheOfficialKC I have a simple solution to VW's stubbornness to let anything faster than a Veyron test their track....Build one somewhere else, haha. I bet all these Hennessey, Shelby, Koenigsegg people have rich, car enthusiast connections. They should pool resources and build their own strip. Venom GT, SSC, would take 1 and 2 and the Koenigsegg would take #4 ( it's fast, but I dont think it's faster than the SS).
or
Put SSC on flatbed, clip the fence, 4wd and run it illegally =)
"It is more fun to drive". How do you know that? I said HOW do you know that?? Driven them both? Or are you passing along some highly SUBJECTIVE opinion as fact? Is that what you are doing? No? Then what the hell are you doing? Spewing out verbal feces?
If you were rich which car do you think you will buy? A car from one of the largest car manafacturers of the world with limitless resources and with a heritage name or a souped-up kitcar from a micrcompany with a TACKY name?
@McLarenMercedes I would even give up some comfort for performance and fun. But that is what is great about the Ultiamte Aero. It is actually MORE comfortable than the Veyron. Read the top gear magazine article when they drove it. And read Car and Driver's review of the Veyron(in which they say it has harsh ride, noisy interior, crappy stereo, etc).
For a definition of tacky I give you the ShelbySuperCar (already tacky sounding) Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo (Ultimate Aero?? Embarrassing name). Could you possibly come up with anything more tacky sounding? Idiots like you don't understand that people with class don't want to drive around in a "ShelbySuperCar Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo". Doesn't exactly roll of your tongue does it?
It's successor will be called "ShelbySuperCar Extra Ultimate Mega Ultra Fantastic Aero Twin Turbo"
@McLarenMercedes The company actually goes by SSC. The only reason you don't think Ferrari, Bugatti, Koenigsegg, etc are tacky names is because you don't speak their languages. They are ALSO names of the people who started it. Anyways that doesn't affect the cars performance, quality, ride, etc.
SSC clearly stated the next gen car will not be "Ultimate Aero anything". It is a new name.
I was wondering. How come magazines all over the world have praised the Veyron, and even Gordon Murray who designed the McLaren F1 revides his previously negative critique of it and said it was an engineering feat.
Ever heard Gordon Murray praise the SSC? Any other independent sources?
How come there's tons of videos of Koenigseggs and Veyons out there? Where are all the videos of the SSC demonstrating their "obvious superiority"? How come nobody buys them?
@McLarenMercedes EVERY magazine or person that has driven the SSC in production form has PRAISED it. Top Gear said it handles amazing and is even more comfortable than a Veyron, and that was an early production model not as refined as later ones. Jay Leno liked it more than the Veyron saying it is more fun. BusinessWeek said it was great and they have driven both.
@McLarenMercedes Even Jason Castriota was very skeptical about the brand and car but after he drove it he he realised how great it was and that is why he decided to design the body of the next car for them.
Gordon Murray has never driven the Aero.
Why are there more Koenigsegg videos? Again, do I have to go through the whole deal about years in production, etc,etc? I think you get the point. SSC is small and new. When the new car destroys all your current opinions away what will you say then?
I also have an analysis of the Veyron SS's Topgear acceleration. The SS takes 31s to 400kmh, the SSC takes 29s. Both are quite neck and neck, but the SS has a higher topspeed.
I think you guys all get too worked up. I think if I cud just sit in the passenger seat of one of these cars I'd nearly shit myself. can't we just love great cars?
the Ultimate Aero is alot lighter therefore it doesnt need a big engine and the Bugatti Veyron is Really heavy so it has a huge engine the bugatti Veyron has been pushed to its limits but the Ultimate Aero havent so it can beat the bugatti Veyron but no1 has pushed it to its limits because its so light and has alot of power so it'll start gaining air after a while bugatti wont because its heavier so even tho bugatti holds the record at 265mph the Ultimate Aero can pass that but no1 has tried..
the Ultimate Aero is alot lighter therefore it doesnt need a big engine and the Bugatti Veyron is Really heavy so it has a huge engine the bugatti Veyron has been pushed to its limits but the Ultimate Aero havent so it can beat the bugatti Veyron but no1 has pushed it to its limits because its so light and has alot of power so it'll start gaining air after a while bugatti wont because its heavier so even tho bugatti holds the record at 265mph the Ultimate Aero can pass that but no1 has tried..
i think the Bugatti would have been better today if the main origanator built the cars! it to be honest i think he's rolling over in his grave ashamed bc if a twin turbo v8 can beat the socks off a quad turbo then y dont u redesien it to make it better? i will agree the aero is a great car and to me is better then a lot of supercars! bugatti these days is like a name brand! just like nike is to air walks or adidas is to converse lol just a name!
Seeing as how the Veyron needed a W16 and 4 turbos to hit 253 and the Aero only needed a V8 and 2 turbos..... I think the Aero was better engineered. Why? Because Shelby Supercars took a smaller motor less turbos, and produced a more powerful car. Obviously there's more to speed than just power, but I'm just proving a point.
The Bugatti's creators obviously wanted it to be best at everything, but you can't be best at EVERYTHING, so there will always be someone better. And I can't imagine how can Bugatti claim those 0-60 times if it was beaten by the McLaren F1, which on paper is slower. I'm talking about the 1 mile drag from Top Gear, the Bugatti only caught up half way through. The SSC, like the McLaren, is more focused, thus it will always be better to REAL drivers. If you want electronics, go buy a Playstation.
@VaMaZa666 Exactly. The F1 vs Veyron drag test is weird. But it may be the test track used. In that test it wasn't a well prepped drag strip but a normal road. Once off the line the F1 is faster because it has a better power/weight ratio. But once over 200mph the Veyron has a better power/drag ratio.
What is funny about the Veyron is it was supposed to be the best all around supercar, but it is both slower and less comfortable than the Ultimate Aero.
official figures arent the best the mac has to offer. On ehra lessein, it did 100-160kmh in 3.5s, (0-100mph ~ 5.7s) and 0-125mph, 0-150mph times corrosponding to 7.7 and 11.4s respectively. It even beat the veyron's 0-200mph road and track's 24.2s, doing it in 23.2s.
@ASSHOLELA The McLaren F1 is a great car, and cars really should be made more similar to it. But the F1 will never be able to handle 1000hp. The chassis wasn't designed for that kind of power, but more so the aerodynamics weren't. If you have seen the videos of the F1 it gets really loose near top speed. It would be very unsafe to go faster than 240mph in it.
well, I wouldnt say for sure: for once, lambos and GTRs which werent designed to go past 210mph are made by tuners to go 250mph, 300mph. and they survived. There are even rocket schoolbuses, motorcycles which do 400+mph on YT. The mythbusters rocket family car did 350mph.
it isnt safe, but definately The mac would be able to make just ONE run at 300+mph.
And also for sure, if tuners have the will, they wud be able to modify the chassis, engine or aerodynamics as well.
@ASSHOLELA So you go 250mph once then die? That is uesless. The Veyron and SSC both provide cars that can do it daily and do it safely. You could get a Mac F1 to those speeds but it would take extensive modifications, then what is the point? It isn't a stock production car, destroying its value, and it will cost you way more for a less streetable, less reliable car.
@ASSHOLELA That is why the SSC is so great. It follows the same F1 design philosophy on weight and simplicity, but with modern suspension, chassis, and aerodynamics. It is just as engaging and fun to drive but is a modern design that can handle 1200hp and 270+mph speeds.
@ESC8781 How can it bee well engineered when 2000 hp out of 3000 is wasted in heat? I mean sure, if you like it, no offense, as for me, I love the McLaren F1 more than anything else.
@VaMaZa666 I like the mclaren f1 is my dream car, but bugatti is better than this car even Golden murray like this car, but mclaren f1 is better no turbo, superchargers to get to 242 mph.
@ESC8781 The McLaren F1 is my dream car also, but Gordon Murray never said he liked the Veyron, he said he has respect for it, being the fastest after all, he in fact called it an "engineering showoffs". That's exactly what I think it is.
@kmartin524 dude ya the veyron is the fastest car from 0-60 but its not the fastest car the aero is fastest in top speed and it will be faster around the track the veyron is just to heavy of a car even the hennessey venom gt is faster than the veyron and for the money I would rather buy the ssc its half the price I can't see spending over a million dollars on a vw haha and im not hating on the ssc cuz I love the car but I just love the venom gt a bit more
Excellent video and great points. I have driven a car without power steering and then later drove the same car with. It is funner driving it without power steering, feel more alive and more in control of your vehicle. I honestly believe the Ultimate Aero is a much better car...
The amount sold says it all.
We're not talking about some consumer product where the inferior product often wins, since it is the best marketed one. Witness the Iphone or Ipod despite being technically inferior and more expensive people are too stupid to know better.
No, when it comes to the rich and famous, the best product almost always wins.
300 Veyrons have been sold. There were orders for more.
How many SSC's have been sold?? How many tested? How many praised by famous engineers??
McLarenMercedes 1 month ago
@McLarenMercedes First off, the Apple example was terrible, because they were FAR supererior. There is a reason customer satisfaction is much higher. But that is not what this is about.
TheOfficialKC 1 month ago
@McLarenMercedes The amount sold means NOTHING, if you have a brain and can comprehend logic. How many people have heard of SSC? What is its heritage? It is a new brand with no heritage. Most people bought a Bugatti for the name. Bugatti is a name that has been around forever synonymous with exotic cars. For someone that knows 5% about cars they will know what Bugatti is. It doesn't matter if it is half as good as the SSC, it is what they know...
TheOfficialKC 1 month ago
@McLarenMercedes When it comes to the Bugatti, it is bought as a status symbol. It shows your wealth. The Ultimate Aero is made to be a performance car. It isn't about image, it is about driving. It is a better CAR. It is faster, lighter, more powerful, more fuel efficient, easier to maintain, and just more fun to drive. The Veyron is for those that want to show off their wealth.
To me the SSC is a much better car because, well, it does what a car is supposed to do better.
TheOfficialKC 1 month ago
@TheOfficialKC Very well put. Guess he doesn't know that every Aero built was sold well before it was finished being built. SSC doesn't have the means that VW has to produce Veyrons.
iPROFITDON 1 month ago
song?
futureprice31 1 month ago
I really like both and agree the aero out performs, but at that much horse power and speed some electrics is necessarily for some this day and age. I don't really like buy-est reviews but you did most of your homework. You just went overboard in the end lol. great video tho.
TheFatFunnyChannel 1 month ago
@TheFatFunnyChannel As every person that has driven the Aero has said, it doesn't need electronics. The engine isn't a 1200hp beast, but a very tame car. It drives like a stock 430hp V8 when driven easy, but can deliver 1200hp when asked. Just ask Nelson Racing Engines, they do this with 2000hp V8s. With today's turbos and fuel injection it is possible. In fact, the lack of electronics is what makes it fun and exciting. Shows off how well the engineering is, not to band-aid to cover up mistakes.
TheOfficialKC 1 month ago
@TheOfficialKC
I wonder if u really belive any of the lies u wrote in ur video? :D come on, i can proove half of it to biased without even looking for sources
blub3145 3 weeks ago
@blub3145 You can prove half of it biased without looking for sources? Wouldn't doubt it, but if you actually did look at sources you would see that my video is 100% correct.
TheOfficialKC 3 weeks ago
@TheOfficialKC
lol, so u really think ur video is telling the truth.. well, will post some corrections tomorrow
blub3145 3 weeks ago
@blub3145 I can't wait to see what BS you post. I have heard it all before from Veyron fanboys and torn it all apart. You could just save yourself(and me) the time and effort, and just see the truth. Just look at the facts and use your brain to understand the logic. I know it is hard for Veyron fanboys to think, but give it a try.
TheOfficialKC 3 weeks ago
@TheOfficialKC
well i now see the truth, witch is, ur the only fanboy here.
Oh and pls post independent sources for the sscs 0-100 time.
blub3145 2 weeks ago
@blub3145 /watch?v=1gVn2h5XeWg&feature=email&email=comment_reply_received
The Ultimate Aero, not the 1287hp updated Aero, even beats the Veyron Super Sport. It passes the SS in .11 miles where it is going 135mph and the SS is going 120mph. The UA keeps pulling away. The SS has more power and less drag than the standard Veyron. The 2009-11 UA has less drag and more power than the tested UA. It would pull away significantly more.
TheOfficialKC 2 weeks ago
@TheOfficialKC
ur link leads to the video were posting here, i watched ur video, but i wanted independent proov for ur posted times, no read them again. Cause i doubt anyone could ever verify sscs 0-100 2.78 seconds.
not with a car with 1000+ hp, rwd, no launch control (?) and "wheelspin at 310 km/h" i even doubt someone ever passed 3.2 secs
blub3145 2 weeks ago
@blub3145 /watch?v=duF2fwFREbw&list=UUfkxvxrvpNxXvdKusYS0NfQ&index=8&feature=plcp
This is the correct link. 0-60mph is stupid for 1000hp+ cars. And if you watch this video, the SSC pulls away from the Veyron SS after .11 miles.
TheOfficialKC 2 weeks ago
@TheOfficialKC
why is 0-60 stupid? they veyron has 1000+ hp and is the fastes street legal car to 60. I watched this video, but i wanted independent proof, and dont think someone with a youtube account named "assholela" owns a ssc. U can clearly see, that he cut the sscs gps speedo out of another video, i want to see the original and want to know who recorded it.
i guess its either from ssc or someone animated it based on sscs unrealistic figures.
blub3145 2 weeks ago
@blub3145 Assholela does not own an SSC. But the GPS data is direct from SSC and Bugatti. Of course you would deny any data I post because you don't want to believe it. Normal Veyron fanboy reaction.
Why is 0-60 stupid? Even a 530hp Nissan GT-R gets the same 0-60. When you are talking 1000hp cars, 0-60 is barely the start of the race. They have so much power, it is more potential than the tires can handle. So high speed acceleration is a much better test of power, weight and aerodynamics.
TheOfficialKC 2 weeks ago
@TheOfficialKC
So u wouldnt post any facts cause i dont belive them or cause they didnt exist? i bet u coulnt post 0-100 times from indepentend testers, cause the 2.78 are faked as hell.
oh and 2.5 seconds are not the same as 2.9, there r worlds between.
Of course "high speed acceleration is a much better test of power, weight and aerodynamics."
but 0-60 is the better test for transmission and electronics, so what?
blub3145 2 weeks ago
@TheOfficialKC
Oh and comparing UA with "wheelspin at 310" to an f1 cause both have no driving aids is well... eighter u dont know that much about cars or u just want to glorfiy the UA.
blub3145 2 weeks ago
@TheOfficialKC You're arguing with someone who can't even type in compete sentences. It's like trying to read a 4th grader's homework. Why do you take people like that seriously?
177SCmaro 1 week ago
@177SCmaro Well, I TRY to give people a chance, I try to help them learn. I definitely did not respond to his last comment because it was completely not understandable.
TheOfficialKC 5 days ago
@TheOfficialKC If that's the case more power to you, I suppose. Still, reading some of the comments on this video and the rest of youtube I'm rapidly becoming convinced somewhere around 20% of the population can't even type coherently. I just don't see the point in arguing with idiots is all.
177SCmaro 5 days ago
both cars are something special. Looking at either, and dreaming of.........I got wood!!!!!
BTW, it looks like the SSC can seat about 1.5 adults comfortably, whilst the Bugatay could be a grocery getter if need be. And I got the need.
P.S. 27 highway for the SSC could only happen if it were being towed
TheErickkkk 1 month ago
@TheErickkkk The SSC can hold more like 2.5 adults comfortably. The interior is designed specifically to fit people in a wide range of heights, even up to 6'6" comfortably. It also has a decent amount of luggage space. It isn't your average passenger car, but neither is the Veyron.
TheOfficialKC 1 month ago
@TheErickkkk Actually, 27mpg isn't that outrageous when you look at the design. A 3800lb Camaro SS gets 24mpg. The UA basically has a more efficient LS3 with twin turbos. So when cruising at 1500rpm down the highway the turbos aren't hurting gas mileage, so it is essentially a more effiecient LS3 in a car that has better aerodynamics and only weighs 2750lbs.
TheOfficialKC 1 month ago
asswipe u dumd
MultiOmari1234 1 month ago
Please, whats the soundtrack?
Haloegen 1 month ago
@Haloegen The Thing About It by Sweatshop Union
TheOfficialKC 1 month ago
BUGATTI IS WAY BETTER SSC IS HORRIBLE
MultiAwesome62 2 months ago
@MultiAwesome62 thats why its faster lighter, and fucking awesome in the interior
superclaw900 1 month ago
@MultiAwesome62 would'nt say it's horrible but i do agree with you the bugati is better.
the best bugati is the reasinensse
futureprice31 1 month ago
bugatti veyron is the winner! it's 268mph not 253 wow! wrong
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angelo19261 2 months ago
the bugatti veyron is not cheaper hahahahahahahahaa it is the most expansve car in the world daaada the ssc ultimate aero is 650,000$ but the veyron is 900,569 billon$.
angelo19261 2 months ago
This is the most bias opinionated comparison I have seen between these two cars. THEOFFICIALKC must love sucking cock. The opinion you have on the styling of the Veyron is a complete joke - saying that the UA is styled better. Send me some of that weed, Id like to try it.
johnathangear 2 months ago
facts hurt yall i say its better all the time i even proved it on forza 3 and 4 lol
jonthesniper2 2 months ago
don't take me wrong here, i like the ultimate aero way better than the veyron, but this is far from unbiased. really, really far.
GraveUypo 2 months ago
@GraveUypo Can you give me some reasoning? Of course I am trying to prove my point with this and that is biased, but I do so with facts and logic. Can you explain what you feel is very biased about this please?
TheOfficialKC 2 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
Well to begin with, in this comparison the ultimate aero beat the veyron at EVERYTHING. that just doesn't happen in reality, ever.
there's a lot of personal opinion in there (some of which i happen to agree with, but it's still personal opinion) and you're calling those "facts". That aside from a lots of "ifs" and paper stats.
Also all the "quotes" are not only personal opinions, but also hand picked to make the aero look better than it actually is.
GraveUypo 2 months ago
@GraveUypo Okay, I can see where you are coming with. But let me clear some up.
I don't claim every word is fact, but my logic is based on facts to argue what we don't have actual facts for. For example, top speed. If someone told you that a car with more aerodynamic drag, more weight and less power was faster would you believe them? Given the same road conditions the laws of physics will tell you the Ultimate Aero would be faster.
TheOfficialKC 2 months ago
@GraveUypo So based on facts it is illogical to argue for the Veyron SS, even though it has posted a faster top speed. THIS is the point of the video. We don't have good comparison data between these cars, so I use what facts are available to draw conclusions about what would happen in the real world.
The thing is, while you may say it is opinion, when you look at the facts you can't argue against what I said.
TheOfficialKC 2 months ago
@TheOfficialKC the only fact is that the veyron SS has a faster official record set. unfortunately until someone takes a veyron and an ultimate aero to the same track, all those theories are only that.
i know how veyron fanboys can be annoying (they're actually 60% of the reason i HATE that car).
Like i said, i like the ultimate aero better than the veyron (even the SS), so i'm done playing devil's advocate :P
GraveUypo 2 months ago
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@TheOfficialKC the only fact is that the veyron SS has a faster official record set. unfortunately until someone takes a veyron and an ultimate aero to the same track, all those theories are only that.
i know how veyron fanboys can be annoying (they're actually 60% of the reason i HATE that car).
Like i said, i like the ultimate aero better than the veyron (even the SS), so i'm done playing devil's advocate :P
GraveUypo 2 months ago
@GraveUypo Now about those quotes. The reason I posted those quotes is because you will never see a Veyron fanboy bring them up. Yes, I am trying to prove a point and these facts help that.
So are they facts? Well if someone tested a Viper ACR and a Veyron and said the Veyron is louder inside I consider that a fact. They said the stereo sucks, I take that as fact.
If that isn't a fact, how would you measure stereo quality as fact? I think they have enough experience with car stereos to judge.
TheOfficialKC 2 months ago
ill go with ssc because of price difference
MannyFresh1x 2 months ago
Okay that makes sense I guess
asphaltassault100 3 months ago
Ok so if the super sport can do 267 why didnt top gear Max it to 267? They only maxed it to 417km/h (259mph) also if you look at the speedometer on the standard veyron it goes up to 420km/h in which is 260mph (Alrite I'm confused)
asphaltassault100 3 months ago
@asphaltassault100 LOL, that wasn't the supersport on Top Gear... That was the orginal Bugatti Veyron.
fyflishfy 3 months ago
@asphaltassault100 The standard Veyron maxes out at 253mph. That was tested. They can put a speedometer showing 500mph, but it still only can go 253.
On Top Gear James May drove the Super Sport to 259mph, but the professional test driver did 268mph after that. Production Super Sports are limited to 258mph.
TheOfficialKC 3 months ago
The Veyron will easily go to 267 dipshit
HowToMake3135 3 months ago
@HowToMake3135 Congratulations on being an idiot. First, the Veyron will NOT do 267. The Super Sport will do 267mph. And if you can read you will see this video was made before that car existed.
TheOfficialKC 3 months ago
very nicely done my man. But you stopped just short of what I tell everyone; the Veyron is fat, globulous and fugly. Feel free to use that line if you like.
rolwhit 3 months ago
@brudel001 Every UA made had a owner before it was made, so asking the owner can we use your car for testing is kinda hard. The only cars they used for testing were prototypes, which weren't perfect. They had all sorts of bugs that eventually got fixed for production models, which are owned before they're made.
OneManArmy4Life 4 months ago
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@OneManArmy4Life , "Every UA made had a owner before it was made, so asking the owner can we use your car for testing is kinda hard."
Most of the supercars used in top gear - zondas, rare lambos, koenigseggs are owners cars not factory provided. Only factory provided veyron was the SS.
brudel001 3 months ago
Lots of shittalking and veyron bashing. But the fact is that people who are rich enough to test drive and buy whatever car they want and who allready have big garage full of allkinda supercars prefer veyron. Allmost 400 veyrons sold and not even 10 Aeros sold speaks for itself. Lots of veyron review videos and pretty much no aero review videos speak for itself. US teen fanboys who have been raised in propaganda that everything made by US is greatest should pull their head of out their arse.
brudel001 4 months ago
@brudel001 Apparently you don't understand facts. Or logic. More people bought Veyrons because A) It says "Bugatti" on it and B) VW has more money for marketing.
SSC didn't have the time or BUDGET to have test drives(no you couldn't go test drive one, as soon as a UA was finished it was shipped to the owner) or do mag tests.
I have read MANY personal accounts of the difference between the UA and Veyron. The UA is WAY faster and more fun to drive.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, Fact is that superrich who buy things like that aren't idiots - they buy whats best. The statement that SSC didn't have time or budget to test the car is retarded because mags and tv shows will be standing in line to test car and the publicity gained is huge. Ofcourse if the car is shit its better to hide it away and not let anyone test it who might say the truth. Theres huge amount of veyron tests and videos out there - still not one UA video made by "proud" owners.
brudel001 4 months ago
@brudel001 Fact is MOST people that buy supercars do so to show off their money. Not because they want the best car.
Again, SSC only made cars that people ORDERED. So every car had to be sent to its owner right after it was finished. Customers generally don't want people to beat up their brand new car before they get it. SSC is a self funded company, they DON'T have the money to build extra test cars. Nor the time since all their time went to building customer cars.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, those assholes who got rich overnight and need to show off can't afford and maintain Veyron - they buy ferraris and lamborghinis. Not even 25 people have been interested of buying a UA and 25 is actually a number needed to produce to be officially a production car. Also if SSC can't even afford a test car for proper testing then I don't wonder why people don't want to buy deathtrap like that.
brudel001 4 months ago
@brudel001 I never said anything about people who got rich overnight. Look at the majority of rich people, look at actors, they don't know SHIT about cars. 90% of the time, at least, people buy exotic cars to show off. The Veyron is a show off car.
And there is no rule that you need to make 25 cars to be a production car. They have to meet government restrictions, they have serial numbers and are road legal. Guinness accepted them as production, they have more credentials then you.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@brudel001 EVERY review of the SSC RAVES about it. Even Top Gear. A Top Gear tester drove an EARLY car, the record car, and said it handles great and out accelerates a Veyron easy.
Jay Leno raved about it and said it is better than the Veyron, in his video and two articles.
Businessweek raved about it.
Just because VW can afford the marketing doesn't make the Veyron a better car.
The Veyron is about being outrageous and fancy. The SSC is about performance and fun.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, I havent seen any serious review of SSC, there are ofcourse couple of commercial "reviews" like the businessweek one and thats pretty much it. Jay Leno may like the car but he's not a racing driver and you can't seriously review a 1200HP car by cruising around at 50 in city. Also if they can't seriously test the car since the owners don't wnat their cars thrashed then where do all those "every review's" you mention come from? :-D
brudel001 4 months ago
@brudel001 No serious reviews? Businessweek, Jay Leno, Top Gear, Supercars Exposed are ALL serious reviews. And they all rave about it.
I never said there are lots of reviews, is 4 a lot? Maybe for your brain. And guess what, there isn't a single performance review. Why? For the reasons I said before. Would you want your brand new, 1200hp supercar taken to the limit before you have driven it or even broken it in? Didn't think so.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, That businessweek crap isn't a review - some guy just cruises around bit and talks what SSC told him. Jay Leno is okay but hes not pushing the car and hes not professional driver. Also he's an american. Do I want my car to be taken to the limit? FYI all the supercars are tested before shipped - every lambo or ferrari is driven around countryside and on track by test driver. Every veyron is taken to its topspeed before shipped to ensure it can do what promised.
brudel001 3 months ago
@brudel001 Just to point this out, Koenigsegg didn't have any decent reviews until the CCX. That is the THIRD generation of their car, and Koenigsegg had more money then SSC to start with. Why don't you start your own company, build a quality car and afford to have test cars, all while funding the company with your own money you made if it is so easy?
They focus on the car, not the marketing. Anybody who has been in one will tell you the quality is on par with Koenigsegg.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, if you can't do something properly then don't do it at all - especially if dealing with something peoples lifes depend on. So they don't have test model, they obviously don't crash test it - so is the UA even legal in Europe, is it legal in all the states or only in couple where it s legal to marry your own sister?
brudel001 3 months ago
@brudel001 About Jay Leno; no he isn't a race car driver. Are you? Didn't think so. So why do you need to see a race car driver review it? It is more realistic to see a normal person, the type of person that BUYS these cars, review it. DUH.
It is easy to make a 1200hp car, but showing it can cruise around the city with no problem is the hard part, so the review is actually very good. It shows the quality, refinement, comfort, etc.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, Normal person can't make a lot of difference between 700 or 1000HP cars since he hasn't got skill to take either of them to the limit. But talking about normal person you took quite a slippery road there. For a normal person the veyron is a lot better car than UA since 1200HP manual RWD car in the hands of a average driver is a accident about to happen. Ofcourse when just cruising around at 50 theres not much difference but in that case might aswell drive a prius.
brudel001 3 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, so youre talking BS - first you say that "they ship cars straight to owners and thats why theres no reviews" but at the same time you say that theres lots of reviews where they did proper tests and it was best car evar. If the SSC can't afford open marketing and letting magazines do proper reviews with racing driver behind the wheel driving hard on track sharing thoughts, and If they can't even afford one testcar then its hard to believe they can afford a quality build at all.
brudel001 4 months ago
@brudel001 If you want performance just watch the GPS on the top speed run of the Ultimate Aero. If you time it yourself you can clearly see it does 0-200mph in under 16 seconds. The Veyron does 0-200 in 24 seconds and the SS does it in 22s.
If you still can' understand logic, just wait for the Tuatara. SSC has more money and they are going to devote more to testing. Just so you know, SSC already has more orders for Tuataras then they ever sold UAs. Game over.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@TheOfficialKC, where do you get these numbers? Thats not even important. Anything can be fast if theres enough power behind it - question is can it deliver in all the categorys. For example John Hennessy himself said that theres no point of comparing Venom GT to Veyron since they built the venom just to be fast. About Tuatara - it now costs twice as much as UA and its easy to sell lot more since the other din't selle a shit.
So Yeah I guess for added price of another UA it should be better.
brudel001 3 months ago
@brudel001 what in the world would ever lead you to believe that joe bloe average person would ever have the opportunity to look at, much less drive that butt ugly Bugatti?
rolwhit 3 months ago
@rolwhit, well I don't see the logic between being superrich and thus automatically being a driving god unless that someone a formula one driver or something.
brudel001 3 months ago
@brudel001 Also, just for facts, there were 300 Veyrons sold and 15 Ultimate Aeros. SSC profited more off 15 Aeros then Bugatti did off 300 Veyrons.
TheOfficialKC 4 months ago
@brudel001 veyron(non ss) vs ssc....speed the ssc...luxury the Veryon by far.....Euro vs US, since when has America been known for their epic cars? thats more the Veyron has goin for it.....price the SSC is also cheaper(tada less luxury = less price,right?) not to mention the SSC is a rougher ride. alot of people want a smoother ride. the ssc isnt what most people want, wich is a car thats going to drive harder....love for both cars cause i cant afford either XD
carrionpvp 4 months ago
Ninety eight dislikes by the Veryon phanbois who can't take the truth.
dogsbd 4 months ago
wow that was a good video, haha i cant believe a veyron takes 93 octane where the hell do you even get that?
chakenfangersaregood 5 months ago
the objective evidence is already in the video response. Get over it. SSC is faster. Not because the logic or physics say so, but it actually is. When SSC is at 400kmh, bugatti at 350kmh.
ASSHOLELA 5 months ago
no it cant veyrons gas tank only last 12 mins
hawkinsdh64 5 months ago
WHY IS EVERYONE OBSESSED WITH BUGATTI?!!!!!!? DON'T THEY SEE HOW CLEARLY SSC ULTIMATE AERO IS SO MUCH FASTER?!!!!!! GO SSC!!!!!! Great video!
ALEXTER8943 5 months ago
very objecitve
fopperer 5 months ago
Bugatti Veyron SS - 267 mph.
Your turn :) Can't wait to see what Aero comes with!
We should thank y'all for picking up the gauntlet ... we wouldn't have cars like these without some competition so manufacturers have something to prove.
fokGoogol 6 months ago
I do not care, I love bugatti veyron I do not care if he lost = D (y)
dododouglas06 6 months ago
90 people are European.
hailfire82997 6 months ago
also, the veyron is top speed car, it is production but i don't see it meant to be driving on regular roads. your video also seems very biased to me. not trying to be mean but i felt like this was a why the ultimate aero is better than the bugatti video. you need to balance it out
sportagus3 6 months ago
@sportagus3 haha thats exactly what it is, red the description ;)
xHoodedReaper 6 months ago
@xHoodedReaper oh no shit sorry dude lol
sportagus3 6 months ago
@sportagus3 haha
xHoodedReaper 6 months ago
first off, i love both cars. but you should have used the supersport version of the bugatti because that version was specifically meant to combat the aero
sportagus3 6 months ago
@sportagus3 The Super Sport didn't exist when I made this video.
You may call it biased, but the reasons proving the UA better are facts and logic. I can't change that. Everything you will ever read or watch about a car will be biased one way or the other. Do you go bitch about Veyron videos being biased? They are WAY WAY WAY worse than this because at least I use facts and logic. And that is the point of this video, prove a point but being fair and using facts and logic.
TheOfficialKC 6 months ago
@TheOfficialKC 1st off, be nice. I'm not trying to start anything or argue with you we are both lovers of the UA. 2nd, I wasn't bitching I was expressing my opinion before reading the description as you can see from my earlier comments if you read them. If not they are there. 3rd, your video is biased lol. you said so in your description. you should toss in some advantages the veyron has over the ultimate aero and then i would agree with you. Lastly, I hope you had a nice day =)
sportagus3 6 months ago
@sportagus3 Like I said before. EVERY video comparing things, or any book, article, etc., will be biased in some way. I obviously like the UA better, but it is only because of what it does. I backed everything up with facts and logic. Something Veyron fanboys can't do.
I would gladly toss in some advantages of the Veyron, I just couldn't find any.
TheOfficialKC 5 months ago
american made used to be good until now, where underneath that BUILT IN AMERICA sticker is a MADE IN CHINA sticker. Your country is built around rich greedy white men, your fellow americans starve at night while the rich sleep happily. Great country, oh and i forgot about the whole healthcare thing. Let your countrymen be thrown out of hospitals. Ya'll should be real proud.
guidotheguy 6 months ago
@guidotheguy There are some rich greedy white men here, there are also lots of really sincere rich people. I guarantee there are lots of greedy rich people where you are from. Somehow we just happened to get too many liberals.
But our supercars, and in fact LOTS of our cheaper cars, are truly built in America.
TheOfficialKC 6 months ago
but i guess as long as your wife i mean sister likes it
guidotheguy 7 months ago
@guidotheguy It is Alcantera(same material European luxury car brands use, including Ferrari and Porsche) and Carbon Fiber. So yes, it is classy. And it isn't meant to be retardedly luxurious to compensate for lack of performance. It is designed to be minimalist and light. It is designed to not be distracting or cumbersome, but focused on the driving experience. It is uncluttered but still gives you all the luxury you would want. And a much bigger rear view screen than the Veyron.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@guidotheguy jealous much?
hailfire82997 6 months ago
yankees do not build cars, they simply stuff their faces with fast food shit
guidotheguy 7 months ago
@guidotheguy Fuck you dude go troll some other video.
FroggerFilm 7 months ago
@FroggerFilm buddy just look at the interior. only americans can call that luxury. plastic over cardboard, real classy.
guidotheguy 7 months ago
@guidotheguy During the era of Ford's first moving assembly line (thank us American's when you get a chance) we were going through the great depression. People salvaged all that they could and used what they had live off of. Fast forward eighty years and the generation of people who went through the depression had children and taught them to make things last as well. Anyway knowing that most people would buy things to be supportive of America the companies produced cheap cars and they still are.
arwblink1822 6 months ago
I think you're not thinking correctly. If I were to go up to a person from France who lets say lives out in the country secluded from modern things and he had invisible friends would I automatically think all French people were crazy. Of course not, It is funny the few hillbilly red-necks who seem to apparently speak for all of Americans. We are educated, intelligent, and the Aero SS is a fast sports car it's not meant to be luxurious. Look up the features of any new Cadillac your are wrong..
arwblink1822 6 months ago
@FroggerFilm It's not for luxury its for minimalism. And jesus it has a fucking DVD player in it!!!!
FroggerFilm 7 months ago 3
@TheOfficialKC
disable the like/dislike buttons on this videos!
it pisses me off how stupid people are!!
THE TRUTH HURTS!!
camargo2012 7 months ago 11
@camargo2012 Right on the money.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@camargo2012 This video was obviously made by a fan boy, you cannot say the video states FACTS then put in something someone said (it would go another 10 mph, fact is it did not) plus the fastest car still to date in 2011 is the Bugatti Veyron SS :)
TheSydguy30 3 months ago
@TheSydguy30 I am not a "fanboy", just a fan of the UA. Fanboys are uneducated trolls.
This video is based on facts. Even my 10mph faster claim. By using logic and the known facts you can easily see that 265mph is possible in the old UA much less the updated 2009+ version. What I left out, and shouldn't have, is the aerodynamic stats.
The drag area of the Veyron is 8.02, the UA is 6.78 and the 2009 UA is 6.44.
TheOfficialKC 3 months ago
@TheSydguy30 Some of the information in this video is second hand testimonial, I'll grant you that. But some of it really is factual. Too often the Veyron and Aero are judged superficially. When you look at all (or at least most) of the factors surrounding these cars it leads me to think that the Aero isn't so deserving of all the criticism it gets and the Veyron is not quite so deserving of the tons of praise it gets.
177SCmaro 3 months ago
@TheSydguy30 It is even more clear when you consider the Veyron SS has a drag area of 7.754 and 1183hp. So the 2009 UA has less drag(6.44) and more power(1287hp).
The UA should easily break 270mph given the same road as the Veyron. Put the Veyron on the road SSC did 257mph on and it might break 230.
Now consider the Tuatara has a drag area of 5.904 and 1350hp.
Also, check out the video response, and others from Assholela.
TheOfficialKC 3 months ago
@TheSydguy30 i had been in contact with SSC, bugatti and engineers what this guy is stating on this video is a real fact.... if the ultimate aero were to make a speed test on the same track as the veyron it could easily hit 270 MPH.
camargo2012 3 months ago
From SSC record run:
0-50kmh 1.4s 0-100kmh 2.9s 0-50m 3.3s @ 118 kmh 0-160kmh 4.5s 0-100m 4.6s @ 163 kmh 0-200kmh 6.2s 0-200m 6.5s @ 213 kmh 0-240kmh 8.4s 0-400m 9.5s @ 259 kmh 0-270kmh 10.3s 0-500m 10.9s @ 280 kmh 0-300kmh 12.8s 0-322kmh 14.9s 0-1000m 16.7s @ 338 kmh 0-350kmh 18.2s 0-1600m 22.7s @ 377 kmh 0-400kmh 30.1s in 2396m 0-410kmh 41.2s in ~4500m the veyron has no compare against the SSC when it comes to acceleration.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
Argue all you want, the Veyron Super Sport is faster.
frozenskipper 7 months ago
@frozenskipper Super Sport ONLY has a higher top speed. So? The SSC accelerates faster, it handles better, it is more fun to drive, it is actually possible to service it, it is cheaper to buy and own, it gets better MPG(technological achievement). Are you ever going to do 250+? No, so for everything else the SSC is 100% better.
Also, the reason SSC only hit 256mph is because it was on a short road with a S-bend midway and bad camber. The SS would be lucky to hit 240mph on the same road.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
Then how come NOBODY buys them??
Bugatti has sold 300 Veyrons to the rich and famous. They could have sold more but want to keep it exclusive. Commercially there's really no comparison.
"Cheaper to buy and own". Sigh. You don't get it do you? Rich people don't bother with bargains like ordinary people that want to save a few bucks here and there. Premium products will ALWAYS be more expensive. You can't charge the same price for an inferior product. What's wrong with you?
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes There is a big difference between making a superior product and having superior marketing. SSC is a VERY SMALL company. They funded it themselves. They designed and built a car that is faster than the Veyron. It cost them far more money than they expected.
Bugatti is owned by VW, SSC doesn't have that kind of backing. VW has the marketing to back up the product, or in this case make it look better than it is.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes SSC, again, is a small brand. They are very new, building their first car, they have no name and no history. To expect them to sell in quantities like the Veyron is just moronic. Be realistic and compare them to Koenigsegg. Koenigsegg sold 6 of their first model in 3 years. SSC sold 15 in 4 years. So it is actually impressive.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes People buy Bugatti for the name. Bugatti is a brand that made amazing cars for a long time. So people that buy their cars for bragging rights(actors, rappers, etc) rather than people who actually buy the car for the experience are going to buy the one they have heard of.
Would you rather be seen as part of the group who buys a car for immage or because the car is better to drive/own?
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
No no no. You're so sad I don't even know where to start. First of all can you please show a roadtest of the SSC in which it is PROVEN that it accelerates faster. Without the launch control the Veyron has I found that hard to believe. Handles better huh? Again, proven WHERE? Why don't they drive one on Nurburgring or any other racetrack to prove that they are in top class like Koenigsegg did with their CCX and Pagani with their Zonda F.
100% better?? You are BEYOND sad.
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Again, SSC didn't have the marketing ability to test their cars. When you only produce 15 cars it is hard. Koenigsegg didn't prove their car until their 3rd model. Again, expecting SSC to do with their first model what Koenigsegg did with their 3rd is just moronicc. Get a clue. Try and start your own supercar company, design a car faster than the Veyron and be able to market it like established companies. Come on man, THINK.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago 3
@TheOfficialKC
"No, so for everything else the SSC is 100% better".
Oh a nice round 100%? That statement alone qualifies you as a JOKE. What, you're not saying it's 43% better, or 67% or even 72,45% better. No no no, Mr. I-can't-tell-shit-from-shoeshine-but-still-think-I-won't-make-an-embarrassment-of-myself here KNOWS it's 100%. He knows this from his great knowledge in "automotive engineering".
Tell you what. YOU work at some local auto repair shop where you change tires and oil on trucks
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC Well, the thing is, if you own an ssc, you have to live with it knowing it is the SECOND fastest car out there, and will never be as cool, prestigious, comfortable or as good looking. As a car to buy and own, sure it's far far better, but if you can afford an SSC or an SS then gas mileage won't really matter will it?
frozenskipper 7 months ago
@frozenskipper I could live with the SSC being the less prestigious car. Why? Because I son't have a self esteem problem and need to show off to get friends. I would buy a car for how fast it is, how well it works for what it is designed and how I would drive it. For all those reasons the SSC is better. It will beat the Veyron in a drag race (the Veyron is only faster 0-60), it will far outhandle the Veyron, it will be MUCH more fun to drive, it will be quicker in real world situations.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC I am saying that!!!!!! But if you buy one, it will only be the 2nd fastest, and it will allways be uglier.
frozenskipper 7 months ago
@frozenskipper Looks is subjective and I personally think the Veyron looks like a fat toad. The SSC looks better to me, even though it aint no K'segg.
It is only officially the fastest, but if I bought one, with the money I would save, i would have it tested on a track long enough for the car to reach its top speed and prove that it is in fact faster than the Veyron SS. (the original Aero ran out of room and the newer ones have 104hp more)
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC Well, where the veyron may look like a fat toad, the SSC looks like an over run toad. And no car is a K'segg, maybe except the zonda cinque. But i agree, the SSC probably is a better handling and faster accelerating car than the veyron, but i just really like it. :)
frozenskipper 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC I have a simple solution to VW's stubbornness to let anything faster than a Veyron test their track....Build one somewhere else, haha. I bet all these Hennessey, Shelby, Koenigsegg people have rich, car enthusiast connections. They should pool resources and build their own strip. Venom GT, SSC, would take 1 and 2 and the Koenigsegg would take #4 ( it's fast, but I dont think it's faster than the SS).
or
Put SSC on flatbed, clip the fence, 4wd and run it illegally =)
iwasadeum 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
"It is more fun to drive". How do you know that? I said HOW do you know that?? Driven them both? Or are you passing along some highly SUBJECTIVE opinion as fact? Is that what you are doing? No? Then what the hell are you doing? Spewing out verbal feces?
If you were rich which car do you think you will buy? A car from one of the largest car manafacturers of the world with limitless resources and with a heritage name or a souped-up kitcar from a micrcompany with a TACKY name?
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes I would even give up some comfort for performance and fun. But that is what is great about the Ultiamte Aero. It is actually MORE comfortable than the Veyron. Read the top gear magazine article when they drove it. And read Car and Driver's review of the Veyron(in which they say it has harsh ride, noisy interior, crappy stereo, etc).
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
For a definition of tacky I give you the ShelbySuperCar (already tacky sounding) Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo (Ultimate Aero?? Embarrassing name). Could you possibly come up with anything more tacky sounding? Idiots like you don't understand that people with class don't want to drive around in a "ShelbySuperCar Ultimate Aero Twin Turbo". Doesn't exactly roll of your tongue does it?
It's successor will be called "ShelbySuperCar Extra Ultimate Mega Ultra Fantastic Aero Twin Turbo"
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes The company actually goes by SSC. The only reason you don't think Ferrari, Bugatti, Koenigsegg, etc are tacky names is because you don't speak their languages. They are ALSO names of the people who started it. Anyways that doesn't affect the cars performance, quality, ride, etc.
SSC clearly stated the next gen car will not be "Ultimate Aero anything". It is a new name.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
I was wondering. How come magazines all over the world have praised the Veyron, and even Gordon Murray who designed the McLaren F1 revides his previously negative critique of it and said it was an engineering feat.
Ever heard Gordon Murray praise the SSC? Any other independent sources?
How come there's tons of videos of Koenigseggs and Veyons out there? Where are all the videos of the SSC demonstrating their "obvious superiority"? How come nobody buys them?
You clown.
McLarenMercedes 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes EVERY magazine or person that has driven the SSC in production form has PRAISED it. Top Gear said it handles amazing and is even more comfortable than a Veyron, and that was an early production model not as refined as later ones. Jay Leno liked it more than the Veyron saying it is more fun. BusinessWeek said it was great and they have driven both.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@McLarenMercedes Even Jason Castriota was very skeptical about the brand and car but after he drove it he he realised how great it was and that is why he decided to design the body of the next car for them.
Gordon Murray has never driven the Aero.
Why are there more Koenigsegg videos? Again, do I have to go through the whole deal about years in production, etc,etc? I think you get the point. SSC is small and new. When the new car destroys all your current opinions away what will you say then?
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
also see my topspeed race comparison: The veyron is ahead until bout 200kmh, then the ssc pulls away exponentially.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
@ASSHOLELA not any more.
frozenskipper 7 months ago
I also have an analysis of the Veyron SS's Topgear acceleration. The SS takes 31s to 400kmh, the SSC takes 29s. Both are quite neck and neck, but the SS has a higher topspeed.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
@ASSHOLELA which means? the veyron is faster.
frozenskipper 7 months ago
@
of course the 1000hp TT mclaren f1 will whop everything, 1200 Veyron SS, SSC aero II and I, agera, CCXR, saleen s7 TT .....1000hp ams supra.
it has better weight and aerodynamics than any other car.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
I think you guys all get too worked up. I think if I cud just sit in the passenger seat of one of these cars I'd nearly shit myself. can't we just love great cars?
gerbils4 7 months ago
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the Ultimate Aero is alot lighter therefore it doesnt need a big engine and the Bugatti Veyron is Really heavy so it has a huge engine the bugatti Veyron has been pushed to its limits but the Ultimate Aero havent so it can beat the bugatti Veyron but no1 has pushed it to its limits because its so light and has alot of power so it'll start gaining air after a while bugatti wont because its heavier so even tho bugatti holds the record at 265mph the Ultimate Aero can pass that but no1 has tried..
brandonrolin 7 months ago
the Ultimate Aero is alot lighter therefore it doesnt need a big engine and the Bugatti Veyron is Really heavy so it has a huge engine the bugatti Veyron has been pushed to its limits but the Ultimate Aero havent so it can beat the bugatti Veyron but no1 has pushed it to its limits because its so light and has alot of power so it'll start gaining air after a while bugatti wont because its heavier so even tho bugatti holds the record at 265mph the Ultimate Aero can pass that but no1 has tried..
brandonrolin 7 months ago
i think the Bugatti would have been better today if the main origanator built the cars! it to be honest i think he's rolling over in his grave ashamed bc if a twin turbo v8 can beat the socks off a quad turbo then y dont u redesien it to make it better? i will agree the aero is a great car and to me is better then a lot of supercars! bugatti these days is like a name brand! just like nike is to air walks or adidas is to converse lol just a name!
lifeiswhatumakeit101 7 months ago
Seeing as how the Veyron needed a W16 and 4 turbos to hit 253 and the Aero only needed a V8 and 2 turbos..... I think the Aero was better engineered. Why? Because Shelby Supercars took a smaller motor less turbos, and produced a more powerful car. Obviously there's more to speed than just power, but I'm just proving a point.
Blakmajik4 8 months ago
@Blakmajik4 The veyron can go much faster than 253, but it will be too dangerous.
ESC8781 8 months ago
The Bugatti's creators obviously wanted it to be best at everything, but you can't be best at EVERYTHING, so there will always be someone better. And I can't imagine how can Bugatti claim those 0-60 times if it was beaten by the McLaren F1, which on paper is slower. I'm talking about the 1 mile drag from Top Gear, the Bugatti only caught up half way through. The SSC, like the McLaren, is more focused, thus it will always be better to REAL drivers. If you want electronics, go buy a Playstation.
VaMaZa666 8 months ago
@VaMaZa666 Exactly. The F1 vs Veyron drag test is weird. But it may be the test track used. In that test it wasn't a well prepped drag strip but a normal road. Once off the line the F1 is faster because it has a better power/weight ratio. But once over 200mph the Veyron has a better power/drag ratio.
What is funny about the Veyron is it was supposed to be the best all around supercar, but it is both slower and less comfortable than the Ultimate Aero.
I agree with the playstation comment.
TheOfficialKC 8 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
official figures arent the best the mac has to offer. On ehra lessein, it did 100-160kmh in 3.5s, (0-100mph ~ 5.7s) and 0-125mph, 0-150mph times corrosponding to 7.7 and 11.4s respectively. It even beat the veyron's 0-200mph road and track's 24.2s, doing it in 23.2s.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
@ASSHOLELA The McLaren F1 is a great car, and cars really should be made more similar to it. But the F1 will never be able to handle 1000hp. The chassis wasn't designed for that kind of power, but more so the aerodynamics weren't. If you have seen the videos of the F1 it gets really loose near top speed. It would be very unsafe to go faster than 240mph in it.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
well, I wouldnt say for sure: for once, lambos and GTRs which werent designed to go past 210mph are made by tuners to go 250mph, 300mph. and they survived. There are even rocket schoolbuses, motorcycles which do 400+mph on YT. The mythbusters rocket family car did 350mph.
it isnt safe, but definately The mac would be able to make just ONE run at 300+mph.
And also for sure, if tuners have the will, they wud be able to modify the chassis, engine or aerodynamics as well.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
@ASSHOLELA So you go 250mph once then die? That is uesless. The Veyron and SSC both provide cars that can do it daily and do it safely. You could get a Mac F1 to those speeds but it would take extensive modifications, then what is the point? It isn't a stock production car, destroying its value, and it will cost you way more for a less streetable, less reliable car.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@TheOfficialKC
thats quite true. all this tuner thing is pointless. But tuners do it anyway. I'd just want to let you know its possible.
ASSHOLELA 7 months ago
@ASSHOLELA That is why the SSC is so great. It follows the same F1 design philosophy on weight and simplicity, but with modern suspension, chassis, and aerodynamics. It is just as engaging and fun to drive but is a modern design that can handle 1200hp and 270+mph speeds.
TheOfficialKC 7 months ago
@VaMaZa666 You asshole the ugly ass car is nothing like a Mclaren f1
ESC8781 8 months ago
@ESC8781 never said it was better dipshit, only said it was more focused than the Veyron, just like the McLaren. Learn to read before making insults.
VaMaZa666 8 months ago
@VaMaZa666 I said it is nothing like the mclaren, plus the bugatti is better engineered.
ESC8781 7 months ago
@ESC8781 How can it bee well engineered when 2000 hp out of 3000 is wasted in heat? I mean sure, if you like it, no offense, as for me, I love the McLaren F1 more than anything else.
VaMaZa666 7 months ago
@VaMaZa666 I like the mclaren f1 is my dream car, but bugatti is better than this car even Golden murray like this car, but mclaren f1 is better no turbo, superchargers to get to 242 mph.
ESC8781 7 months ago
@ESC8781 The McLaren F1 is my dream car also, but Gordon Murray never said he liked the Veyron, he said he has respect for it, being the fastest after all, he in fact called it an "engineering showoffs". That's exactly what I think it is.
VaMaZa666 7 months ago
@VaMaZa666 Yeah they show off.
ESC8781 7 months ago
@kmartin524 dude ya the veyron is the fastest car from 0-60 but its not the fastest car the aero is fastest in top speed and it will be faster around the track the veyron is just to heavy of a car even the hennessey venom gt is faster than the veyron and for the money I would rather buy the ssc its half the price I can't see spending over a million dollars on a vw haha and im not hating on the ssc cuz I love the car but I just love the venom gt a bit more
jdmkam12 8 months ago
Excellent video and great points. I have driven a car without power steering and then later drove the same car with. It is funner driving it without power steering, feel more alive and more in control of your vehicle. I honestly believe the Ultimate Aero is a much better car...
inerfyr 8 months ago
I have one question!
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MedakUTD1997 8 months ago