The marooned sailors of the Batavia were both boys, probably apprentice seamen, who would’ve had no knowledge whatsoever of planting yams. Also, the United East India Company (VOC) was only interested in trade which makes it most unlikely that Dutch farmers would abandon their familiar cool temperate climate for the rigors of tropical agriculture. I suggest that later 19-20thC interbreeding with white settlers is the source of their possibly European heritage.
A long interest in the story. What is it that I've said with which you disagree? The best book which I've ever read on it is Ships in the Coral by the late Hector Holthouse. I fully stand by my three opinions as being factual.
Frankly, your facts are based on an author's opinion. Unfortunately, most Australians are ignorant about history because of the James Cook myths.
1. Sailors were taught survival skills.
2. No armers came into the picture.
3. There is an abundance of circumstantial and genealogical evidence and DNA results will confirm whether or not the is a case for early (1712) interaction with natives.
Do you really think that mariners were taught how to find and cultivate yams? Sailors were taught how to sail a ship. Life aboard 17thC vessels was short, sharp and brutal with many vessels having a mortality rate of up to 3/4 of the crew.
What do you mean by "No armers came into the picture"?
3. No, there isn't, in fact, there is a dearth of evidence which is why we still don't know from where the aborignes of the area acquired their possibly European features.
There are many books on this subject, some are simply a rehash of other works. I'm waiting to get hold of Peter Fitzsimons newest book about it. What has Cook got to do with this? He was an explorer, not a settler, and besides, on his charts, the vast land mass was already know as New Holland.
I don't want to sound rude but I get the feeling that you desperately want to believe that some WA aborigines cary ancient Dutch blood.
@BUCKSHOTBLACK00 Europeans cannot be held to account for things that happened in the past, neither can we build a future on old resentments. As humans we need to move forward together. Does that make sense to you?
@BUCKSHOTBLACK00 The Black War is a term used to describe a period of conflict between British colonists and Tasmanian Aborigines in the early nineteenth century.[4][5] Although historians vary on their definition of when the conflict began and ended, it is best understood as the officially sanctioned time of declared martial law by the colonial government between 1828 and 1832.
@ThomasVan yeah I know that with carbon dating, I am just saying in regards to related stuff that they my found to support there claims, and thanks for letting me know about the DNA side of thing.
You're a lunatic. Fuck off.
brokenscimitar 1 month ago
I am interested in your sources.
ThomasVan 1 month ago
Portuguese and spanish where in this part of the world before the Dutch even had a navy
Mindybu 1 month ago
The marooned sailors of the Batavia were both boys, probably apprentice seamen, who would’ve had no knowledge whatsoever of planting yams. Also, the United East India Company (VOC) was only interested in trade which makes it most unlikely that Dutch farmers would abandon their familiar cool temperate climate for the rigors of tropical agriculture. I suggest that later 19-20thC interbreeding with white settlers is the source of their possibly European heritage.
brokenscimitar 3 months ago
@brokenscimitar
Are your views based on opinion or facts? It strikes me that you are guided by your belief systems.
Regards,
Tom
ThomasVan 2 months ago
@ThomasVan
A long interest in the story. What is it that I've said with which you disagree? The best book which I've ever read on it is Ships in the Coral by the late Hector Holthouse. I fully stand by my three opinions as being factual.
brokenscimitar 2 months ago
@brokenscimitar
Frankly, your facts are based on an author's opinion. Unfortunately, most Australians are ignorant about history because of the James Cook myths.
1. Sailors were taught survival skills.
2. No armers came into the picture.
3. There is an abundance of circumstantial and genealogical evidence and DNA results will confirm whether or not the is a case for early (1712) interaction with natives.
ThomasVan 2 months ago
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@ThomasVan
Do you really think that mariners were taught how to find and cultivate yams? Sailors were taught how to sail a ship. Life aboard 17thC vessels was short, sharp and brutal with many vessels having a mortality rate of up to 3/4 of the crew.
What do you mean by "No armers came into the picture"?
3. No, there isn't, in fact, there is a dearth of evidence which is why we still don't know from where the aborignes of the area acquired their possibly European features.
brokenscimitar 2 months ago
@ThomasVan
There are many books on this subject, some are simply a rehash of other works. I'm waiting to get hold of Peter Fitzsimons newest book about it. What has Cook got to do with this? He was an explorer, not a settler, and besides, on his charts, the vast land mass was already know as New Holland.
I don't want to sound rude but I get the feeling that you desperately want to believe that some WA aborigines cary ancient Dutch blood.
brokenscimitar 2 months ago
EUROPE KILLED AUSTRALIA
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 4 months ago
@BUCKSHOTBLACK00
I agree! History cannot be changed. The future can and personally I would like to see Aboriginal culture be revived to its fullest extent.
Regards,
Tom
ThomasVan 4 months ago
@ThomasVan im sure thats why ur people wiped out tasmanians completly same thing you've been trying to do to ALKEBULAN
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 4 months ago
@BUCKSHOTBLACK00 Europeans cannot be held to account for things that happened in the past, neither can we build a future on old resentments. As humans we need to move forward together. Does that make sense to you?
Regards,
Tom
ThomasVan 2 months ago
@ThomasVan actually you are a direct descendants from these people who murdered mine for sport...look it up
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 1 month ago
@BUCKSHOTBLACK00
Please provide sources.
brokenscimitar 1 month ago
@brokenscimitar OF UR MUM
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 1 month ago
@ThomasVan I know because the UN and other organization hate us as much as there ancestors did possibly more...rwanda darfur just two of dozens
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 1 month ago
@ThomasVan bullshit
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 2 months ago
@BUCKSHOTBLACK00 The Black War is a term used to describe a period of conflict between British colonists and Tasmanian Aborigines in the early nineteenth century.[4][5] Although historians vary on their definition of when the conflict began and ended, it is best understood as the officially sanctioned time of declared martial law by the colonial government between 1828 and 1832.
BUCKSHOTBLACK00 1 month ago
What happend to the carbon dating and the DNA?
robinalexlewis 5 months ago
@robinalexlewis
Carbon dating is not done on humans. The DNA is still under review and the results should be available in January 2012.
ThomasVan 2 months ago
@ThomasVan yeah I know that with carbon dating, I am just saying in regards to related stuff that they my found to support there claims, and thanks for letting me know about the DNA side of thing.
robinalexlewis 2 months ago
And the DNA results are ????
biggles150 5 months ago
Nice work....
SimonAkkermanACS 1 year ago