Jazz is the ultimate try-hard music. Frank Gambale is a good example of it too. All this musical knowledge, no feeling or beautiful harmonies, just complex scales and progressions.
@Bundloc Actually, its up to you to mix up the modes as you want soloing on something like this since Jeff Berlin pretty much grooves on one note, many scales can be applied to that.
@TheW4RP1G Actually this music is kind of like an acquiered taste (I'm not sure how to spell it, but you know what I mean) and there is a melody, but it's one of those kinds of music that takes more effort to listen to, but once you do understand it more you come to like and appreciate it more. No music is bad because you can learn from all music at any skill level.
@Sunderlanding what wrong with the guitar,,funny thing is this video was originally made for bass players but it turns out it was uploaded for frank gambale.
@Sunderlanding i dont expect everything to be good,,but i do expect the title to suit the video. frank gambale is incredible,,maybe YOU just need to find a video suiting better to your tastes.
@DumbedDownSociety I will and I'll be sure to avoid any shitty Gambale videos now that I know he sucks. You can stay here and enjoy your elevatory shred.
@Sunderlanding ahaha! i will and ill enjoy it very much,,and you know what,,until you upload something on half a level that frank is, your opinion is void and you remain an ignorant youtube elitist. that really has no idea what-so-ever what real guitar work is.
@DumbedDownSociety ...and until you upload something just as good as his stuff you're opinion is garbage as well. Who cares about fucking videos? What a stupid thing to say. Should every movie critic have to make a great film before he becomes a critic? What kind of stupid world is that?
@schuey999 LMFAO and whats your choice guitar? something shitty like a fender or esp? not every great guitarist uses a ibanez either, so get your facts straight before you run your mouth little boy.
@Hatesmonkeys666 ... shitty fender and esp ? :-) ... i have fender RG with Dimarzio's Super Distortion and EVO. It has thin sound as schuey999 said but i like it. Good for music as Gambale, Lane, Vai etc. But if i want to play blues and make my amp scream i take my fender. Ibanez can't do it ...
@hovadopekel lmfao, you can make any guitar sound good, even shitty esp and fender, but ibanez is one of the best, saying ibanez cant do it is like saying (i cant play without a wah pedal) you have to suck pretty bad to make an ibanez sound bad.
@Hatesmonkeys666 just matter of taste. Look at Shaw Lane. I can't imagine his music with sound fender SC based. All i am saying is that there can be good ibanez and cheap shit ibanez. Just like any other guitar. But i still don't understand why you think fender and esp are shit ...
@superfrigobar go die u frog fucking shithouse, how the hell can this sound boring? Why don't u crawl bk up that festering crack between ur whore of a mothers legs and let people listen to the might of mr Gambale!!!!
@mordig That was boring too. Anyway I don't judge you. If you like the Pizza Hut waiter that introduces the video and guitarists playing the kind of music you hear when they put you on hold on the telephone its fine by me.
Why do I see a keyboard player and not hear one? All I see is Obi-wan playing bongos on an unplugged keyboard. That guy is a pretty good musician, though, as far as his other stuff. Just can't remember his name, so for now he's Obi-Wan.
miraculous trio!!! i love how these guys are dressed and look like. this is maximum 80's and everyone of those monster musicians is superb. man there has to be music quality like this again nowadays . i miss that so much!!! what i miss the most is emotion in modern music. back in the 70's and 80's there was so much emotion in everything. i miss that!!!
That's not even worth replying to. Do you get some sort of perverse kick out of that sort of language? Do you think that makes you smart? It just makes you look like the cretin you are son. Go back to school and learn the art of debating, and you'll find that the first rule is "He who abuses, loses" So go away and get a brain.
No Doubt some of the best players on Earth...Frank's been my hero since early 80's. In fact it was jeff berlins pump it album that introduced me to Frank... love jeff berlin's playin...however I met Jeff in person a while back....he was kind of an asshole
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drummer is good but he's playing to many fills and kills the groove, you can see frank drifting in and out of time becaue the drummer ain't keeping it solid.
wow...... just the fact that you said " the drummer" let all of us know you really dont know much about the music world. This genre of music is called fusion jazz and he is playing it more than alright, he is killing it! By the way "the drummer" is Vinnie Colaiuta, one of the WORLDS premier and most sought out drummer.
i had a chnace to see chick corea-john patitucci gambale at a venue in Ottawa..whata concert!!
PRODIGYat43 2 months ago
Ronnie Cox?! I thought Robocop 86'd his conspiratorial ass.
titmouse68 4 months ago
You're Fired! Blown though the window! Robocop...
MrHideyoursheep 4 months ago
Dick Jones (Ronny Cox), the inventor of the infamous, DIRECTIVE 4: CLASSIFIED...
nothinghappens1 5 months ago
Jazz is the ultimate try-hard music. Frank Gambale is a good example of it too. All this musical knowledge, no feeling or beautiful harmonies, just complex scales and progressions.
TheW4RP1G 5 months ago
@TheW4RP1G
sure
but
this tune has just one scale
improvisation on
mixoplydian mode
Bundloc 5 months ago
@Bundloc Actually, its up to you to mix up the modes as you want soloing on something like this since Jeff Berlin pretty much grooves on one note, many scales can be applied to that.
EczilaSF 1 week ago
@EczilaSF
not so sure dude
the bass line is in mixolydian mode , theres not so many scales applyng on this scale(?)
gambale plays some notes out of the tonality as color, but the main scale is myxolydian
Bundloc 6 days ago
@TheW4RP1G Actually this music is kind of like an acquiered taste (I'm not sure how to spell it, but you know what I mean) and there is a melody, but it's one of those kinds of music that takes more effort to listen to, but once you do understand it more you come to like and appreciate it more. No music is bad because you can learn from all music at any skill level.
someweirdkid95 3 months ago
Great player but, I cannot stand his tone.
MrUsedBooks 5 months ago
bassit has epic mustache!
enematrocoya 6 months ago
Too bad about the guitarist. The bass and drums are awesome though.
Sunderlanding 6 months ago
@Sunderlanding what wrong with the guitar,,funny thing is this video was originally made for bass players but it turns out it was uploaded for frank gambale.
DumbedDownSociety 6 months ago
@DumbedDownSociety He's just boring. Totally unmemorable lines. Technically he's ok I guess, but he should learn how to work a melody.
Sunderlanding 6 months ago
@Sunderlanding the songs called frank gambale solo,,what did you think you were going to be watching.
DumbedDownSociety 6 months ago
@DumbedDownSociety I didn't know what to expect. That's why I watched it. Why do you only watch things you know are going to be good?
Sunderlanding 6 months ago
@Sunderlanding i dont expect everything to be good,,but i do expect the title to suit the video. frank gambale is incredible,,maybe YOU just need to find a video suiting better to your tastes.
DumbedDownSociety 6 months ago
@DumbedDownSociety I will and I'll be sure to avoid any shitty Gambale videos now that I know he sucks. You can stay here and enjoy your elevatory shred.
Sunderlanding 6 months ago
@Sunderlanding ahaha! i will and ill enjoy it very much,,and you know what,,until you upload something on half a level that frank is, your opinion is void and you remain an ignorant youtube elitist. that really has no idea what-so-ever what real guitar work is.
DumbedDownSociety 6 months ago
@DumbedDownSociety ...and until you upload something just as good as his stuff you're opinion is garbage as well. Who cares about fucking videos? What a stupid thing to say. Should every movie critic have to make a great film before he becomes a critic? What kind of stupid world is that?
Sunderlanding 6 months ago
Vinnie & Jeff amazing !!!
carakenio 6 months ago
I want that guy's shirt at 0:34
CapnCheezburger 6 months ago
can anyone tell me tha name of this piece that they're playing ? :o
fuankarosu 6 months ago
It reminds me of the music on the PS1 demo discs sent from Playstation Underground.
Tengent 7 months ago
amazing band!!!
FMGuitarChannel 7 months ago
Yep, Dat's Vinnie. What a ridiculous groove.
paupur 7 months ago
is that Vinnie Colaiuta on the drums?
MrAske 7 months ago
" I had to kill Bob Morton because he made a mistake...
...now it's time to erase that mistake"
voiceofreason79 7 months ago
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jnnfr216k 7 months ago
Freddie Mercury's brother in the bass! ...jaja
jnnfr216k 7 months ago 2
Who's that bassist?
Fucking awesome bassist.
EndSquirellAids 7 months ago
@EndSquirellAids jeff berlin, jaco's fretted bass counterpart
KingTabor 7 months ago
Great, but I'd like to see a complete version of the tune 'Rattletrap' - look for it, his solo is awesome.
egyptianminor 8 months ago
Hahah thats fuckin Cohagen at the beginning! Give these people air!!
guitarisma3 8 months ago
GAMBALE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GuitarSpeedMonster 9 months ago
If anybody ever needs a definition of what a solid groove is, send them a link to this video.
HRage 9 months ago
Dick...you're FIRED!
iamyourmumsfriend 9 months ago
Peformace show de bola do Frank gamabe
ribslaver 9 months ago
Do not try this at home :P damn his good !
ramiwkhoury 9 months ago
Gay pro rock = faster FASTER! More notes!!! You're getting paid by the note right?! hahaha
jimicoop 10 months ago
Hell! This BassLine blew my mind!
hopfenkaltschale 10 months ago
was that the bad guy from robocop and total recall? I DONT TRUST HIM.
theRev767 10 months ago
a la koncha su madre!!!!!!!!
GoNoRdEaTh 10 months ago
lo maximo...
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RicardoTheTardo 11 months ago
@RicardoTheTardo your mother
DarkerKn1ght 11 months ago
@RicardoTheTardo Yup, I'm pretty sure he couldn't play like me either. He's probably forgotten how to play that bad.
burmanmusic 10 months ago
@RicardoTheTardo Lol poor moondancer33 stupid trolls keep getting people to think he actually wrote that.
EndSquirellAids 7 months ago
absolutely meaningless
20thegee07 1 year ago
Dick Jones started doing bass videos after getting fired from OCP.
chype 1 year ago 4
"You got what you want, Cohaagen! Give deez people eaah!"
[Total Recall/off]
Afurthyclays 1 year ago 2
@ nothinghappens..It looks like Vinnie to me!
jongitarz 1 year ago
@nothinghappens...That sure looks like Vinny to me!
jongitarz 1 year ago
Is the drummer Vinnie Colaiuta??? Thanks.
nothinghappens1 1 year ago
holy shit jeff can rock that bass! i mean frank is hella good too :)
bungmasterteddybear 1 year ago
@bungmasterteddybear jeff look like a pizza seler
patoulatchim 1 year ago 2
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@bungmasterteddybear jeff look like a pizza seller
patoulatchim 1 year ago
Fusion bassists always have the best tone....
WoWintosh 1 year ago
frank`s the drummer, right? :D:D:D I`m joking.... great solo... that guy is incredible at sweep picking....
t1paka 1 year ago
at least the drummer isn't busy or anything>_>
xjustxkidsx 1 year ago
ronnie cox ?
missymonroe72 1 year ago
COCAINE.
alexmortland 1 year ago
look at the bassist....lol
GuitarMaster5155 1 year ago 2
Why do great guitarists use Ibanez's? Ibanez guitars have no tone and sound so thin IMO.
schuey999 1 year ago
@schuey999 LMFAO and whats your choice guitar? something shitty like a fender or esp? not every great guitarist uses a ibanez either, so get your facts straight before you run your mouth little boy.
Hatesmonkeys666 1 year ago
@Hatesmonkeys666 ... shitty fender and esp ? :-) ... i have fender RG with Dimarzio's Super Distortion and EVO. It has thin sound as schuey999 said but i like it. Good for music as Gambale, Lane, Vai etc. But if i want to play blues and make my amp scream i take my fender. Ibanez can't do it ...
hovadopekelne 1 year ago
@hovadopekel lmfao, you can make any guitar sound good, even shitty esp and fender, but ibanez is one of the best, saying ibanez cant do it is like saying (i cant play without a wah pedal) you have to suck pretty bad to make an ibanez sound bad.
Hatesmonkeys666 1 year ago
@Hatesmonkeys666 just matter of taste. Look at Shaw Lane. I can't imagine his music with sound fender SC based. All i am saying is that there can be good ibanez and cheap shit ibanez. Just like any other guitar. But i still don't understand why you think fender and esp are shit ...
hovadopekelne 1 year ago
I say this in the nicest way possible...this shit is noise. Very talented noise.
Weez2202 1 year ago
@Weez2202 lol what?
panamanian911 1 year ago
How is the President of Omni Consumer Products sitting there. Didn't Robocop shoot him out of a skyscraper?
monta72 1 year ago 3
@monta72 Nah, that isn't OCP's CEO; it's Captain Jellico, who briefly replaced Jean-Luc Picard as captain of the Enterprise-D.
FreedomZealot 1 year ago
They look like the Village People on amphetamine. And sound fuckin' boring.
superfrigobar 1 year ago
@superfrigobar go die u frog fucking shithouse, how the hell can this sound boring? Why don't u crawl bk up that festering crack between ur whore of a mothers legs and let people listen to the might of mr Gambale!!!!
mordig 1 year ago
@mordig That was boring too. Anyway I don't judge you. If you like the Pizza Hut waiter that introduces the video and guitarists playing the kind of music you hear when they put you on hold on the telephone its fine by me.
superfrigobar 1 year ago
@superfrigobar Wot's boring is your existence when u keep coming onto a video u don't like. Go get a life, a job and a jump you sad virgin bollocks .
mordig 1 year ago
The guy playing the drums looks like Vinie Colaiuta
0911479616 1 year ago
@0911479616 he isssss vinie!!!!
blackmiroz 1 year ago
@0911479616 Confirmed :)
r3dfiv3 1 year ago
Why do I see a keyboard player and not hear one? All I see is Obi-wan playing bongos on an unplugged keyboard. That guy is a pretty good musician, though, as far as his other stuff. Just can't remember his name, so for now he's Obi-Wan.
WoWintosh 1 year ago
jeff has awesome chest hair! OMG he's wearing a wife beater under his sport coat...god i mis the '80's!!!!
BigAl21472 1 year ago
miraculous trio!!! i love how these guys are dressed and look like. this is maximum 80's and everyone of those monster musicians is superb. man there has to be music quality like this again nowadays . i miss that so much!!! what i miss the most is emotion in modern music. back in the 70's and 80's there was so much emotion in everything. i miss that!!!
intermediate007 1 year ago 2
Is that Vinnie on the kit?
InHumanForm555 1 year ago
vinnie stole the show.
TheNuncFluens 1 year ago
Somebody tell me where this clip is taken from because I wanna get my hands on the whole thing....
dorlandosonic 1 year ago
That's freakin Ronny Cox! He's the number 2 guy at OCP!
diablosrising 1 year ago 19
@diablosrising At first I was like OCP?? and then it hit me!!!!! That is the funniest shit I ever heard!!! HAHAHA
Cory1721 9 months ago
@Cory1721 I work for Dick Jones! DICK JONES! He's the number 2 guy at OCP. OCP runs the cops. You're a . . . . cop!
diablosrising 9 months ago 7
@diablosrising seeing Ronny Cox surprised the SHIT out of me!!!
CRaul87 9 months ago
That looked like Henry from MASH!
ricaard 1 year ago
AWESOME!
r1skate 1 year ago
Damm, Awesome Trio !!
mlunacantu 1 year ago 28
@mlunacantu there's 4 of em =P
mrpattrike 1 year ago
@mrpattrike Ur Right, I guess Gambale,Jeff Berlin & the Guy On the Drums,
are just, Totaly It Tearing it Up !! They need to emphasize more on the Keys !!
mlunacantu 1 year ago
@mlunacantu there's four:)
Ebenezerkvasthval 1 year ago
@Ebenezerkvasthval Funny thing is that I knew that, the thing Is Gambale,&Berlin
And the Guy on the Drum Kit, are Just Tearing it up !! But yea Great Keyboard Player
Just wish I knew who he was !!
mlunacantu 1 year ago
@mlunacantu Hello! I see 4 people in this clip. I guess its's a quartet
Homone Sergiu
Lee222222 9 months ago
@mlunacantu trio?
k1kac0 6 months ago
@k1kac0 drum,bass,guitar
screechkid116 6 months ago
@screechkid116 You don't see the keyboard guy on the right?
k1kac0 6 months ago
@k1kac0 noticed him now
screechkid116 6 months ago
I see vinnie colaiuta and i want to give up on the drums
maximaman380 1 year ago
Sounds like shit! Aaaaaargh
sa7sul 1 year ago
really... frank is awesome.. but jazz-rock sucks!!
MixatoFreeKill 1 year ago
It's Bogumill!
chype 1 year ago
Is this Ronny Cox in the begining ?
UnrealPharaoh 1 year ago
Jedite govna majmuni sa glupim imenima.
lukat93 1 year ago
Frank has great hair in this video. What kind of conditioner does he use?
dwilmer7 1 year ago
@dwilmer7 It,s a wig
widepass 1 year ago
Such an awesome vid! Doesnt get any better than Frank, Jeff, and Vinnie's musicianship! Thanks for posting =)
burnedoutgolfer 1 year ago
Jeff Berlin - outstanding bass player, great moustache, great chest hair complemented by a low cut orange shirt, just perfect.
TenTonHorse 1 year ago
isn't this a fallout boy song?
bitcheznhos 1 year ago
Is that Vinnie on drums? :D
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fl5050 1 year ago
gambale is facking amazing.. what he has done with c. korea?...
nosferatusism 1 year ago
Damn,these jazzers CAN fucking shred!
GuitarFretMan 1 year ago
of course they can!! check Andreas Oberg
delpimpo 1 year ago
Ummm isn't this the (excellent) bass solo, with (the great) Frank Gambale doing lead fills?
Why is listed as Frank's solo? Will we even name the bass player; introduced as Geoff?
JohnMalcolm 1 year ago
amazin frankyyyyyyyyy
greatleahart 1 year ago
wow Mr.Frank Gambale certainly knows how To work that Ax.Excellent Player.
bmohr37 2 years ago
Frank is as usual very innovative superb
gerard
Gferini 2 years ago
why did the sound like shit 2 me :P
SonicAge2003 2 years ago
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Gferini 2 years ago
I hate Hugh Hefner. First Playboy, now bass-domination?
Christ.
iamyourmumsfriend 2 years ago
If you are reffering to the intro guy,he is not Hugh Hefner.
He is the guy from Robocop,Ronny Cox.The "Dick Jones"guy.
Nord1980 2 years ago 2
Haha, I didn't genuinely think it was 'Hef'.
I fucking LOVE Robocop - it's probably the best robotic-cop-based film that will ever be made.
(Pssst...best film in general, to be honest. But shhh...it's a secret.)
iamyourmumsfriend 1 year ago
Hahahaha I remember when I first saw Robocop.
In the whole movie I was thinking that Robocop whooped ass and can't get any cooler.
And then the drug factory scene came.....
Nothing else left to say....
Nord1980 1 year ago
"Come quietly, or there'll be...trouble."
iamyourmumsfriend 1 year ago
lmao!! he did build the ED-209 ...DIIICCCKKK YOUR FIRRREEEDDD!
Dreamscapevirus 1 year ago 2
is he using the same model as herman li? the guitar
alapunk13 2 years ago
Yes he is, The "S" series of Ibanez. But Herman has his signature guitar and Frank has/had his custom mades and signature : ).
blacklabel12 2 years ago
Can anyone tell me where I can find the full version of this? Or at least what it is called? Then I might find it myself, being a Google master :)
dorlandosonic 2 years ago
Fantastic musicians, but this is just musical wank. It sounds like a chase scene from Beverley Hills Cop, what a load of pish
stookiebhoy 2 years ago
stookiebhoy you're only jealous cos all you play is the penis wank..wank...wanker! You shoot your load in your own stinking gob don't ye ya wee fag!
evilservant 2 years ago
That's not even worth replying to. Do you get some sort of perverse kick out of that sort of language? Do you think that makes you smart? It just makes you look like the cretin you are son. Go back to school and learn the art of debating, and you'll find that the first rule is "He who abuses, loses" So go away and get a brain.
stookiebhoy 2 years ago
whos the bass player???
jemstar619 2 years ago
jeff berlin ! the best in the world
jamestampere 2 years ago
This is the sickest jam session ever!
andyvancouver2000 2 years ago
I like the Bass!
Yimmery 2 years ago 2
that dudes a beast at bass lol
FrAnKShErDs 2 years ago
I love when Vinny turns his head to the side. It means ITS OVER... no more monkeying around.
wmanser 2 years ago 2
crap
gugge92 2 years ago
holy crap frank got fat
Anarchyffan 2 years ago 7
@Anarchyffan He turned into Uncle Fester. And Joe Satriani must be his cousin.
thesethreekings 1 year ago
@Anarchyffan lol so what
Sortsylic 1 year ago
Vinnie!
drummakid101 2 years ago
thats such cool looking ibanez guitar..dont cared for the floyd rose though
wisesatyr72 2 years ago
Wardrobe!
wungabunga 2 years ago
as good as they are, I have no clue why you're focusing on their clothes...............
Ford4Lyfe7 2 years ago
Try 70"s fusion ala mahavisna
tonetubs 2 years ago
whats the name of this song?
guitarplayerbayarea 2 years ago
80'sssssssssssssssssssss
soloquierosignearme 2 years ago 2
Great stuff! Kind of reminds me of some Rush sounds...
javadlux 2 years ago
Fusion poweeeeeeeeeeerrrrrrrrrrr
rodolfo11 2 years ago
Ok, I've never heard Frank Gambale before, that was awesome! Why does it remind me of Satriani??? I'm going to guess that Joe is a Gambale fan.
Jim1701X 2 years ago
Check Gambale's "Little Charmer" ... ;)
mbcrra 2 years ago
Que violencia
juanbarros88 2 years ago
vinnie is a beast
black3dots 2 years ago
is that jeff pocaro drumming?
FockerTheLopper 2 years ago
I'm pretty sure it's Vinnie Colaiuta.
Viohead 2 years ago 3
you're right! damn and it was killing me.. I can't believe that I didn't recognize my favorite players sound or look!
FockerTheLopper 2 years ago
Nope It's Vinnie Coliuta
porcaro4ever 2 years ago
No Doubt some of the best players on Earth...Frank's been my hero since early 80's. In fact it was jeff berlins pump it album that introduced me to Frank... love jeff berlin's playin...however I met Jeff in person a while back....he was kind of an asshole
rjeremi 2 years ago 2
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two of the most highly technical players of all time unfortunately two of the most boring too...
nemogre 2 years ago
I haVE to agree, at least the bass guy had a groove going tho
118Huntervasser 2 years ago
is this jeff behind the drums
naduoidaunddeimuata 2 years ago
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drummer is good but he's playing to many fills and kills the groove, you can see frank drifting in and out of time becaue the drummer ain't keeping it solid.
thispagesux 2 years ago
wow...... just the fact that you said " the drummer" let all of us know you really dont know much about the music world. This genre of music is called fusion jazz and he is playing it more than alright, he is killing it! By the way "the drummer" is Vinnie Colaiuta, one of the WORLDS premier and most sought out drummer.
fifovelazquez 2 years ago 4
i love that kinda midi guitar sound anyone knows how to get such sound??
scarfr156 2 years ago
Como se llama esta canción??
How is this song called?
I want it!!!!
angaort 2 years ago
first imression: Super bass sound ,cool groove,cool harmonies....i like it...
mileskinski 2 years ago
frank, vinnie and jeff are one of the best players around.
vincentcat666 2 years ago
people make bad comments because they are so jealous they can't bear it!!shit smelling ignorants..
BLEZGYI 2 years ago 6
@BLEZGYI i'm jealous of the bassist's hairy chest... and mustache :(
nacoapestoso 1 year ago
madre mia, viendo esto, me siento ridiculo ....menudos musicazos y talentos....... esto es de otra galaxia..por dios...
santyrush 2 years ago
what a mess
thispagesux 2 years ago
Kinda yeah.....
Voodutube 2 years ago
What a load of appalling shite!
jobbythehutt 2 years ago
Jeff Berlin's tone is dreadful.
EddieG1888 2 years ago
I am more appalled by the clothing hair and general sense of (or lack of) style!
It was however the 1980's!
Mistermagoo77 2 years ago
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the drum & bass are annoying
evelskunny 2 years ago