I'm an English man with Irish parents & on a visit to Offaly it was explained to me like this.... " If you came home tonight & found a squatter in your living room, what would you do?".... "Through him out", said I... "Well the English are squatting in our living room", said he. We've been squatting there for 450 years & enough is enough. The World has changed & we need to change with it. I'm not condoning violence from either side but is a man a terrorist for fighting to free his homeland?.
@seannolan11 he is when he puts a bomb in a public house in birmingham, killing civilians that had nothing to do with the troubles ,not a military target, some of irish descent themselves , or when they bomb their own town, killing catholics and protestants alike, terrorism in anyones book , apart from the provos themselves , and what has kneecapping 14-15 year old catholics got to do with a united ireland, english? most unionists are scottish descent,and NI has its own government practically
@seannolan11 saying the majority of people living in NI squatters , is a little discriminating,bordering racist, thesve been there over 400 years , they arnt scots or english or welsh but northern irish , shall all white europeans leave n america, are they not squatters to, most being there less than 150 years or so, shall europeans leave australia or new zealand, being called squatters , a non person ,by native irish , shows the reason why unionists dont want a united ireland
@deadheroesclub1 I agree. Which is what I was trying to say with my first post. Great lyric no matter who wrote it. (If you read the bit on Christy's website, he says that this is significantly shorter than the version he first heard. I'd like to hear the rest of it.)
@vaughanclooney Seriously? It's a song not a classroom assignment. Repeat after me: "Poetic license." Songs/poems are intended to invoke a mood, and this one surely does that. Gives me chills if it catches me in the right light. "A rebel I came, and I'll die the same" - I always get the feeling it's Bobby telling us the truth about himself, rather than just part of the story, when I hear that line.
I love this song, one of my favourites, and Christy does it justice - but what would you expect?
@MsStBoom You've been given me history lectures on another part of youtube and you actulay have the nerve to critise Vaughanclooney for pointing out the historical errors in this song! Seems like rebels can just make up history to suit there political aims. They are far too ready to use propaganda and lies to influence the tiny minds of their blind followers.
@Noddy1690 I'm an amateur historian and an occasional poet, and I recognize that there's a difference between the two. I also remember that old adage "never let the truth get in the way of a good story". Maybe no convict ship sailed from Derry, maybe none from Ireland in 1803, but Bobby Sands certainly didn't make them up in order to write this song.
I also know that when a person resorts to personal attacks they've lost the debate.
@Noddy1690 That's an incredibly complicated question that I can't answer here. All soldiers are terrorists, that's the unfortunate nature of modern warfare. I consider myself a Nationalist (Republican if you'd rather), so I do support the cause the PIRA was fighting for.
As for Bobby Sands, within the scope of this topic especially, I respect him first and foremost as a poet and as a rather remarkable young man. I admire him not because of what he did but because of who he was.
@MsStBoom What did he do that was remarkable? I would hardly say that getting involved in terrorism, taking your own life, writing crap songs, not washing and smearing your cell walls in excrement are very wise or clever things for anyone to do.
@Noddy1690 It's all context isn't it? I'm not inclined to get into a 500-character-at-a-time philosophy discussion, but the fact that we're still talking about him 30 years after he died seems fairly remarkable to me.
@MsStBoom People are still talking about Hitler but that doen't mean that he was a good person. There were some really nice people who lost their lives during the PIRAs campaign of violence and terror. It's a shame that the IRA victims are not remembered while low lifes like Sands have their deads glorified in film.
@Noddy1690 The comparison to Hitler rather seriously diminished the rest of your argument, which was otherwise valid. A better choice might have been somebody like the man I met a few years ago who had been a soldier with the Wehrmacht. Nice old fella, I quite liked him. We talked about cats.
Anyway, what you say does deserve comment, and I'll address it in another comment box. Following ASAP.
@Noddy1690 The US Army (and probably the Brits) has a phrase that always makes me cringe; "Collateral Damage." It means "People who got in our way and don't really matter." Another phrase you hear that I hate is "Acceptable losses" because you have to wonder why even one is acceptable or how many it takes to be unacceptable.
Far too many people, innocent and otherwise, died on both sides of the argument. My heart aches for all of them. All, 'Irish' or 'Brit', were my countrymen.
@Noddy1690 As I said earlie, my admiration for Bobby Sands stems not from what he did but from who he was. Actually, I have respect for any man (or woman) who is willing to stand up and put themselves in harms way for the place or people they love. Even if I don't always agree with what the pols are doing with them.
Without the what it's true I wouldn't know about the who, but the who not the what is the man I suspect I would like personally. As I probably would like many people on both sides.
@Noddy1690 Every man, woman and child who has died in the world will have been and shall be remembered by their families, they will live through them. And if youn think Sands was a low-life for standing up for what he believed was right, and what was right then I suggest you read a fuckin' book. The only low-lives were the soldiers like the ones that shot down those 13, unarmed, civil rights protesters in 1972. Tiocfaidh ar la!
british should just leave the north of ireland the brits are the most stupit nation in the world you cant take a land without getting a fight but one things about us irish is that we will never give up we won by the gun and we are wining in the votes and next the green white white and yellow flag will fly over stromont and there will be peace over the land. from belfast
This song is very like "The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" bt Gordon Lightfoot, check it out. Legend Christy Moore, great Kildare man, Up the lillies
Oi, he has a crack at Van Diemans Land in this! It is freezing, but no so hellish anymore :) Pretty boring spot though. Granddad was from Derry, had to leave to PA I think. Not that I think arguing on the intertubs will help matters much, but it'd be good to see the brits gtfo and learn that their old colonialism is dead and not wanted or needed.
@karmapeach this is for englishman, i lived in belfast all my llife an had to put up wit english soliders on the streets, everytime i here there has been ann brit killed in afganistan it brins a smile to my face, its another war u will never won
@inisboy1 you are vile and still living in the past. Grow up. Most people i meet in Ireland are decent people that are looking to the future. I'm an English protestant and I'm moving to Derry in the new year and marrying my Irish Catholic girlfriend.
Listen folks... let the deluded British bastards speak their vile pish ... the world has heard it for hundreds of years... The fact remains that Ireland will never be at peace until the 6 counties are unified... The British Army are murdering bastards!! Tiocfaidh Ar La
I haven't heard this version from Christy Moore before. Weird. The man can take the same song and sing in two different ways, and both are amazingly beautiful.
love the song,so glad in a way that i grew up in offaly and not derry or in the midst of the war in the north,when will ireland be free of the crown,people frown on israel,look a bit closer to home people,ie england!
It doesn,t matter who we didnt conspire with or who we did, we will never accept english rule in our country..... ye can talk all the shite ye want but , i want happiness in my land.....
@REDBACKDEAD Are you on drugs? The British presence in Ireland is not in the uniforms of the British Army, it's in the million British citizens in Ulster. Think you can get rid of them? Good luck!
@Ballysillanone No Im not on drugs....I dont think those British citizens can be got rid of,and that shouldnt be the aim, but eventually they will accept that they live in Ireland and we are all one, and we will have a united Ireland for all people regardless of creed etc
@Ballysillanone No we are integrating them, look at the school system, catholic church out and we will let them march each summer, they can also have a free boat trip back 2 scotland if they so wish! A united ireland is further away than ever because of the economic situation! i wish our young would get educated instead of joining the REAL IRA! You cant bomb and shoot them in2 a united ireland! but it is coming! wont be 2016 maybe 2045. 200 years since an gort more.
@derrylad23 There is less of a gap between UK and Ireland now, I grant you that. But for most of us, we dont feel any urge to jump into bed with the Republic. There has been a British presence in Ireland for centuries....Republicanism simplifies it in a way that will never work.
as for afganistan , what about it , one of the soldiers killed was from the republican of ireland . the only thing i have about it is, that theres not enough troops and the equipment provided has not been good enough , as for the campaign its well justified , 9/11, bali , madrid railway station, the american embassey in kenya, and may other anti west targets , most of which happend before the troops went in, we supported our allies , as do several other nato countries ,against the taleban
healing old wounds,never forgetting history because that's how we learn but forgiving.I for one accept tony blair's apology for the irish famine,it was dignified and just.what i concentrate on is trying to prevent history repeating itself.the illegal war waged in iraq by your country is an example.american troops land in ire on their way to iraq...pick your battles mate."fighting" 'ra videos on youtube is only giving them a platform and achieves nothing. sin é do freagair a mhac,tabhairt aire.
As a man born n bred in N Ireland this song has resonance of grief and loss. God bless Christy and me fellow Northerners. One people one island. Peace
this guy who write called the might of the english is a hair raiser, we doon't know much here in america about your history or how you FEEL so why don't you get someone to help you publish it,like inthe new yorker or the new york times magazine on a sunday morning eh?! love your writing and comments it
's o.k with e, even though the war's over....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
a hair raiser hey , you want to read up exactly what the IRA have done in the last 30odd years , the atrocities , the murders,kidnappings,the beatings ,kneecappings,the soft military targets,the bankrobberies , who was it that was there for america after the 9/11 atrocity , not the irish ,thats for sure , you want to read just who the IRA have murdered , they are no freedom fighters thats for sure
support and supported british imperialism.I'll let you have the last word then if no one replies to you, you can stop listening to back home in derry, you must know it off by now.or you can be the bigger man and leave without a reply!!?can you?!Friendly advice:protest against your country's illegal war and illegal detention laws and try to build bridges with islam,that would be a worthwhile and great thing for any english man to do. good luck, ádh mór.
This "might of the black'n'tans" guy has been on this page for weeks lads, chuireann sé isteach orm freisin,cheapaim gur buachaill óg é,b'fhéidir 15 nó 16.Best to ignore him.We have yet to establish why he's here instead of defending his beloved country in afghanistan,think he prefers to do his fighting from his room in his mum's house.Bhain taitneamh as an amhráin seo, is breá liom é. Saol fhada agus bás in éireann!!
frankie,you,ll have to repeat that in english ,as the vast majority of your countrymen cannot speak that lost language your speaking, i only come back to answer your comments,so dont answer and i wont reply ,i think you sould look at yourself mate, 24 ,been out of school a few years hey ,what have you done so great in life ,supporting murder,bombings,kidnappings,torture,and,racism, hey my conscious is crystal clear,try explaining to god your support of IRA murderers when you meet your maker
what's school got to do with it?When did i say i supported the IRA?I did upto a very certain point.last census put us irish speakers at 400,000.If you support brit troops in iraq or try to explain away bloody sunday as you did then your conscious shouldn't be clear.i'm not half as extreme as you're making me out to be.You're sad enough to go checking out my home page to see what age i am.i have many english mates,they agree that its the rich and ignorant that
"There can never be peace in Ireland until the foreign suppressive British presence is removed, leaving all the irish people as a unit to control their own affairs and determine their own destinies as a sovereign people, free in mind and body separate and distinct physically, culturally and economically" Bobby Sands MP 1954 - 1981
Just get the guns and kick them out like we did in Croatia,and clean your parliament first of traitors and freemasons so called Irish politicians and then u have good foundation to establish proper army ,God bless UNITED IRELAND !!
all we irish were doing was protectin r areas but ur ruc couldnt do shit about the roits so u's had 2 call in the brits... yes we thought oh yeah cool sweet this is the english standing up against stromount but as we all no dat wass nat the case so happened a long and dirty war!!!!! the ira fought brave against one of the biggest armys the the world also the ruc and 3rd but nat least the loyalists! 3 against 1 we fought agaisnt. so in that situation any1 would say they would get defeated..
to TheMightOfTheEnglish.... ill start of with U ENGLISH SMELLY CUNT GO FUK UR MOTHER AND TELL UR DA TO STOP FUKIN HIS MOTHER!!!!!! ni wat do u no about ireland and its people ur on dis talkin balls, how did the troubles start... it startd when the ira wasnt even around it startd wen r irish people of the north were acting for there civil rights by marching and the ruc and loyalists started atackin the marches.... the the loyalists burnt out homes in the bogsand area then...
Mmm perhaps that why the IRA now sit defeated....No arsenal, funds sequestrated, its leaders subjugated into sitting in a British assembly taking theor dosh from the Queen and Irealnd is not united...Oh and Sinn Fein lost the vote on Lisbon!!!! FUBAR boru, or is it WAFU???
In case you aven't heard the news, aussies are coming home in body bags and if ye english ave anyting more to do wit it , there will be bombs goin off here, f#@king poms, i clicked on this page to listen to a bit of christy, wot r you doin ere, join a club r somting, tiochfiadh ar la.....
aussie irish nomark , the british in helmand are doing the worst of the fighting ,along with the canadians next door in kandahar , ill tell you what im doing here fucker , i to like christie moore , but im not going to say nothing to all this republican shite wrote down, you havent a clue shit for brains , if the nationalists and loyalist would of got on together there would be no need of the army there , they protected the nationalists until the ira started their terrorist shit
i think you'll find shit didnt happen till the britsh fucking army murdered 14 people on Bloody Sunday and then the volunteers for the IRA shot up. The Brititsh Army have no right to be in Afganistan the same way they had no right to be in Ireland
blah blah that old chestnut again , change the record . one they souldnt of been on a banned march, 2, a peaceful march hey, a sizable crowd rioted , took no notice of stewards trying to prevent it , at least one shot was fired from the protesters and a photo of a gunman taken,,it was the actions of individual soldiers that day, we dont revel in the deaths of innocent people , and it wasnt orders from ,westminster , republicans are responsible for 2 thirds of deaths in ulster
as for afganistan we do have every right , backed by the UN,and many other countries, the people of afganistan do not want the taleban to return to power , read up what they did ,the main reson we are there ,is because al queheda ,whatever , taleban let them train their ,9/11,bali,american embassey in kenya,the attack on uss cole,spanish madrid bombing , and so on, the taleban were co responsible ,so to right we sould boot them out , saudis,pakistanis,chechens,and foreign muslims are there to
redback, have you ever heard gerry adams and co, its always someone elses fault , never his gangs fault , the republicans were responsible of 2 thirds off all deaths in the troubles , the army less than 300
peace ?tell that to the real ira and co, the attempted murder of a policeman,with a bomb in the family car,the few hundred pound bomb near the border,the threats and intimidation,over there and over hear , go tell them its over ,its them who are the problem,its a shame the provos dont sort them out for their anti social behaviour ,no one wants them
Do you live in ireland? What do you know?? There is indeed peace in the north. Couple of thugs doing that stuff...we have worse from the gangs down in limerick. i advice you to worry about your boys getting massacred out in afghanistan.oh and guy fawkes is the only man to ever enter the english parliament with honest intentions!!
you dont live in the north so what do you know , anyway , i cant wait for the day when irelands united, then the problem is yours ,and the expense , peace is there , compared to what it was there is ,but the threat is there still, if theres peace then a protestant from shankill could walk down the falls ,without threat of being attacked, theres still punishment beatings ,ive seen how the south view orange parades ,as in the dublin march,
guy fawkes and his mob ,had no support among the greater catholic population of england, he and his mates were executed but there was no backlash aganst catholics as a whole , which there would of been if they had succeeded,as for afganistan you cant comment being neutral and all,
you still haven't said why you're here?!Good to see that the brits have as much respect for freedom of speech as ever..i can't comment on afghanistan cos i'm neutral?!have fun detaining families for 28 days without charge and shooting brazilians in the tube,great country...if you want to give back the north then please convince the rest of your countrymen then our nation will be finally free like the south with religious freedom and equality.pity a modern guy fawkes doesn't kill all imperialists
why im here , have you ever been on the noraid website , and comments left by irish americans , and all the other ira videos here and the twisted anti english anti british comments , thats why im here , you from the south go on about the north , without eventhinking what it would mean,, you were saying go home brits in 1969 , no you ever think what would of happend if we had just left then,,,
your not free ,youve just signed many laws away to europe , and the catholic church still influences your democratic government ., a woman cant have an abortion , what about that pregnant school girl who came here with ,her mother,to have an abortion, she was ordered home ,and see did, only to have a miscarriage, hey i read about limerick,and for a small town the violence happening there , nice country hey, drug dealers,rapes shootings,the ryans,keanes,dundons,macarthys, nice place
you're so brave to defend britain on the internet.i see you've had a month long tour of duty on this youtube page.your mother must be so proud!my guess is that you're either 15 or don't have a girlfriend or both.i'm a proud european,it's OUR sovereignty to give away anyway.we have signed up to the same protocols as you brits.you've some nerve to talk to irish people about "rape", it's gone down somewhat since the british army left.go and defend your country in afghan and go home with no legs.
, hey you know nothing at all what ive done or do , so what i come in here ,some get pissed and beat their wives up, some watch x factor , some plant bombs and blow up kids up, some like in your town,go round killing each other over drugs, i spend mabbe an hour at the most haveing a look around here , people can spend 2hours looking at a news paper , funny how you have to revert to mothers , watch your mouth , by the way she is proud as ive never brought trouble home ,
as i said ive never brought trouble home, ive never borrowed ,or scrounged ,i dont drink or smoke and never took drugs, i pay my bills and taxes ,im kind and generous to my friends and family,help anyone out, in trouble ,you know fuck all, i had my moments and battles,knocked a few out ,never been arrested ,almost ,when i was a younger idiot like yourself
as you said its your sovereignty to give away , and youve done that alright , we had no vote ,you had two, it would be kicked out here
this country voted for a common market , not a fedral european union , we have not voted for that , and would be rejected , europe has nothing for us, we put in more than take out , , as well as put money into projects all round the world , proud to be a european ,why? youve done fuck all to contribute towards it , apart from the brave irishmen in ww1,who arnt even celibrated on your isle, , youve had plenty of handouts and thats the only reason your in it for ,
you make a big deal of being neutral, in case of a major war, how can you be proud of that , what you going to do let the rest of us defend europe , whlle you sit back ,slagging the british off,about cromwell and famines in the distant past, as for you going on about rape , your priests are pretty adapt at that as for afganistan , there are southern irish in the british army, at least one has been killed there ,,
"i never brought trouble home to my mother."That is the funniest single youtube comment i've ever seen.thanks.A)i think you should read the paper instead of go on youtube to crusade for england;B)you voted for politicians who stayed in europe;C)there is no federal europe;D)I'm proud of my ancestors who fought in the spanish civil war,for france in the 17 and 18 century and several countries in north and south america;E)I'm extra proud of my relatives in the IRA who won our freedom.
whats so funny about being law abiding and not being, hey the ira havent nothing to be proud of and their mothers , who supported them , murderers , and include the loyalists to, bet that mother of the yong lad who set off the shankill bomb was well proud , and the mothers of the ira who set off the inniskillen bomb , or the mothers of the ones who kidnapped that catholic mother of ten ,who they murdered , there aiming for a fedral europe , its not the common market ,what we voted for
we had no vote over this latest erosion of our freedoms, we also fought in the spanish civil war , as for your ira relatives , the whole thing was unessesary, as you would of got your independence anyway, without all that bloodshed , look at the casuality figures , of the so called war if independence , then look at the so called civil war , far more were killed .irish on irish , over the treaty ,, and even more would of ,if there had not been partition
for one we didnt get independance we wherent promised it it was home rule
2 we gained dominion status not independance
3 partition was an undemocratic act wich was pointed out by gladstone before it was brought in and i quote"5/6 of ireland has voted for independance a democratic majority"
wolf , you know more than me obviously , i did say you wernt technically promised independence , but you would of got it,every other country in the empire got it either sooner or later , after ww1 ,americas woodrow wilson set the league of nations ,part of which says within europe countries have the right to self determination , and again later with the united nations ,, so ireland would of got their independence anyway, ,home rule had been promised several times ,but blocked by unionists
you may have wanted a republic , but a very sizable minority ,who were the majority in the north , threatend all out war , and the resulting civil war would of been devastating , ,on a par with the bosnian ,serb genocide , if we had pulled out completely . there would be no law and order , to stop both sides commiting ,god knows what atrocities,, who would stop it, the ira,anti and pro treaty factions commited terrible atrocities, during the civil war, that was the main reason collins signed
the treaty , if we had just pulled out , and tens of thousands had been killed , the question would of been,why didnt the british stop it ,damned if we stay,damned if we left. the same question rose when we pulled out of india fast ,, why didnt the british stop the inter communal killings , thousads of muslims and hindus died , they wanted independence, they got it , muslims could not live with hindus , so they seperated , i think that may have happend in ireland to, anyway
collins signed because lloyd george treatened "imediate and terribal war" if the delagation didnot sign within two hours collins was the leader of the volunteers at the time and knew that they had not got the ammunition to continue also due to the negotiations their one advantage anonimity was lost as chamberlain said "take as many pictures of collins we have him now"
you gained home rule and dominion status ,but didnt de valera announce a republic later , we didnt object or did nothing about that did we, why would we want to keep hold of ireland,no reason, apart from industries in the north , most put there by britain, the main reason ,was objection by the unionists and threat of open warfare , , dont know wether its correct ,in the film micheal collins , collins said that de valera ,sent collins to london ,as he knew he wouldnt get the north,
we never got home rule the north got home rule. develera didnot announce a republic he just cemented the rupublic that was declared in 1916. what Dev did was remove the king from the constitution and remove the oath (what started the civil war). the reasons the conservative majority put forth for keeping ireland where 1 it would weaken the empire 2 it would provide a backdoor into britian for her enemies and 3 "the irish are an inferior race and not fit to govern themselves" a quote from an mp
tell me why when there was a referendum was held on 1973 ,why the nationalists boycotted it, apparently harold wilson ,after the collapse of the sunningdale agreement because of ulster workers council strike, he considered a rapid withdrawel of NI,both of army and administration ... this is exactly what he local nationalists had been screaming since 1969,troops out,, but garret fitzerald ,minister of foreign affairs and the irish cabinet
that was the nationalist policy not to requgnise the government infact even down in the south there are anti treaty nationalists who do not even requnise the dublin government
the irish cabinet concluded that such a withdrawal would lead to widescale civil war and a greater loss of life,the irish army of 12.500 could do little to prevent...... thats exactly what ive been saying all along , its easy to say troops out without thinking what would of happend ,the same would of happend in the early 20s if we had just left . as for the mp quote , a lot of mps everywhere made stupid and outrageous quotes then ,you sould see quotes about the turks then
as i was saying the whole partion and irish politics in general was and is so complex ,it wasnt that easy to just pack up and go home , hopefully it will be peacefully sorted ,if the men of violence would just give it a rest ,as its them who have delayed any agreements whatever they say, its not us british you have to sort out but the loyalist unionist peoples of the north
who cares paddy , hope your happy in your little backwater ,we,ll be well rid of you , ill dance, to, the day your united , thank god for that , the problem will be yours then and good riddance
lol touchy arnt you ,is that all you can say ,i pity you ,born into hatred and bitterness i think its you lot who should get a life ,mabbe take that massive chip off your shoulder while your at it
how many innocent people have the british army sluaghtered in Ireland, and how many people were killed by the IRA, i think youl find the the brittish army killed far more innocent people than the IRA ever did, how can you defend people like the black n tans, your a fuckin handicap
Only for British imperialism there would have been no IRA, no need to fight for justice and freedom, the brits need to look at themselves, for it is they who have reaped havoc throughout the world....Right up til this day......Even though now, they are losing control of their beloved homeland!!!!
REDBACK what had british imperialism got to to with the troubles from 1969 onwards,the ira were almost none existent in 69 , the problem was caused by the loyalist\unionist led goverment of northern ireland,we were probably guilty of letting you all get on with it,.the ira did nothing for the civil rghts of others apart from misery and destruction,almost 40 years.republicans got a lot futher by politics and discussion,that armed resistance,youll find it was the terrorists who caused the havoc
Well because British Imperialism led your forefathers to take my land, that is why the irish fought against you and your kind and always will.......you have a warped sense of history.....any person with a decent sense of justice understands that the Irish cause was just....and for the record it began long before 1969......and it aint over yet....free united Ireland thats all we want
dont talk bollocks,if you read your history england ,after we left the catholic church , was a small weak country compared to france an spain,the pope even put a contract out on elizabeth the first , scotland to were conspiring against us,as were you irish,you were invaded to protect these shores ,tough ,live with it , goes back even futher asyou know ,but the normans were originally invited , your country was never as one before anyway , an island of several kings and tribes fighting each other
cromwell came over for the same reasons, one because you attacked and slaugtered protestant settlers ,a few years earlier and two,england was in a civil war ,the last of the loyalists over there in ireland, you irish joined the loyalists , and again tough,you lost ,but insted of keeping to any peace settlements,you always kept up a guerilla campaign , which didnt do anthing to kick the english out , just led to futher misery and starvation and desease,your your own worst enemy,always have been
cromwell wasnt as bad(compared with other campaigns on the continent in that era),who was it that attacked the protestant settlers, cromwell sacked drogheda ,which had more protestants than catholics there , and wexford to , others towns were spared, the irish leader ,set free ,and banished, if cromwell was as bad as the irish make out ,he would of laid waste every town
the IRA attacked many civilian targets, laid waste to their own town centres , and english civilian targets , they didnt care about civilian deaths ,you republicans say its war , and dont turn a blind eye about deaths in birmingham ,warrington etc , the checens want independence , are the checens who took that school over , terrorists or freedom fighters , in your eyes they are fighting for freedom, in my eyes they were terrorist scum,nothing to be proud of supporting people like that
invaders , they had been there a hundred years or so , they wernt armed warriors , they were unarmed men women and children, again cromwell if he was bad as you say could of laid waste the whole of ireland, wexford and drogheda were dealt with under the code of the day,, yield or be put to the sword ,, terrible by todays standards but the norm in europe during that time,ive said before look at the 30 years war,in europe ,far more devastating than cromwell ever did
i always wondered how st patrick got away with not being thrown back into the sea , seeing that everything foreign, normans vikings english british,were resisted to the full, yet some bloke walks in and changes all old pagan customs and religion to follow some foreign stranger who said he was son of god .must be the only foreigner that managed to dictate to the irish ,without resistance
your calling the troubles since 1969 a just cause , youve got to be joking , the civil rights movement was a just cause ,of course , you would of even had the backing of the average british person if you had kept it as non violent . the catholics were very greatful the army came in, they were ,and what was left of the IRA ,blame your trouble makers of turning a civil rights cause into a united ireland cause ,without the bombs the shooting,assasinations, we wouldnt of been there ,blame yourselves
free united ireland ,now thats a joke , one , youve sold your independence away to europe , and 2 , the unionist peoples of the north ,arnt going anywhere , and once your united , your going to have to pay for the north, and if it kicks off again ,which it could if you upset the protestant community , you,ll pay dearly , , you condem us yet,if we had pulled out in 69 , you,d have tens of thousands dead ,not just 3,500, we were the only force trying to keep the peace,and you know it
the civil rights was a just cause but how could it stay peaceful when your state attacked it through the b specials at bombay st and the parachute regiment at ballymurphy and derry. your army doesn't work for peace it works for submission. we don't want that, the dishonour of bending the knee to a family off inbreeds, emotionaly retarded greedy fascist icons. for the sake of dignity there will always be people who will fight and thank god for it.
@REDBACKDEAD No the BNP have some form of common sense, that argument is from the mouth of one who believes the english were right to come murder, rape torture and otherwise dominate the Irish who never once invaded a country. Anyone wanna look at how the british "EMPIRE" came about? MightOfTheEnglish how about this, to hell or to england? Cromwell was scum and you know it. As are all your kind.
keiran , the BNP have some sort of commonsense , lol weres yours ,, the bnp leaders are semi illiterate , and brain dead , they must be , they deny the holocaust ever happend, they contest the numbers murdered ,that there were no ovens or furnaces, they think the sun shone out of hitlers arse ,thats their downfall, all what happen was well documented,filmed ,thats what the germans are reknown for, the nazi,s documented everything ,my father fought them and uncles as did many irish
wreck of the edmund fitzgerald
Univer3eTwist3ers 1 month ago
Beutiful song.
Greetings from Hungary. Many Hungarians were slaughtered after WW II, and many territories of Hungary was given to different countries....
I feel you Irish, I feel you
belzebul 2 months ago
@belzebul cheers from a proud Irish American. my thanks for your suport
Weasel1282 2 months ago
Tiocfaidh ár lá
ohea18 2 months ago
The poet-hero Sands will be remembered long after the great great great grandchildren of his bigoted anti-Irish detracors are forgotten.
The war is over let's win the peace.
Victory to the Scottish and Irish Republican movements!
eoghanmaria 5 months ago
god rest ya bobby sands!!
ezergood187 5 months ago
blame the fucking ROTHCHILDS NWO
antohonyp 7 months ago
I'm an English man with Irish parents & on a visit to Offaly it was explained to me like this.... " If you came home tonight & found a squatter in your living room, what would you do?".... "Through him out", said I... "Well the English are squatting in our living room", said he. We've been squatting there for 450 years & enough is enough. The World has changed & we need to change with it. I'm not condoning violence from either side but is a man a terrorist for fighting to free his homeland?.
seannolan11 8 months ago 8
@seannolan11 he is when he puts a bomb in a public house in birmingham, killing civilians that had nothing to do with the troubles ,not a military target, some of irish descent themselves , or when they bomb their own town, killing catholics and protestants alike, terrorism in anyones book , apart from the provos themselves , and what has kneecapping 14-15 year old catholics got to do with a united ireland, english? most unionists are scottish descent,and NI has its own government practically
TheMightOfTheEnglish 3 months ago
@seannolan11 saying the majority of people living in NI squatters , is a little discriminating,bordering racist, thesve been there over 400 years , they arnt scots or english or welsh but northern irish , shall all white europeans leave n america, are they not squatters to, most being there less than 150 years or so, shall europeans leave australia or new zealand, being called squatters , a non person ,by native irish , shows the reason why unionists dont want a united ireland
TheMightOfTheEnglish 3 months ago
@seannolan11 VERY well said!
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FinCroweman 9 months ago
he is on bbc4 right now
pedrohill67 10 months ago
fuck da boston globe. Sands was,is and always will be a hero
aidanruddy 10 months ago
Nationalism is a silly cock crowing on his dunghill.
I am a citizen of the world!
arbeia76 11 months ago
@arbeia76 No. You sir are a nose with an idiot hanging off it.
KungfuCow5 10 months ago
If our young men keep on fighting, our young men will keep on dying.
When will they ever learn?
There is an inherant fault with any political ideology that leads to the deaths of those it is purporting to free.
danthedobermann 1 year ago
How ignorant are the English?
They call the Irish Paddy
Yet little do the fuckers know,
the Paddies are their Daddies
KungfuCow5 1 year ago 2
...god save ireland...
johnniejukebox 1 year ago
KEEP THE STRUGGLE UP LADS!
rorymullan 1 year ago
oh hot damn, this is my jam. fuck aye hi!
kirstyboyle 1 year ago
second verse is missing from this version of the song
jparke1977 1 year ago
anyone who likes this should read "ten men dead" and "on the blanket" - both about the hunger strikers. God Bless them and their strength.
edjones5568 1 year ago
@edjones5568 Ten men dead is an unbelievable song!!!
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20emmet09 1 year ago
@kungfucow5 14 ppl mate 1 dies in hospital bout a week later
20emmet09 1 year ago
@20emmet09 and what about the injured i dont think the brits cared if they died as well
jparke1977 1 year ago
for everybody who thinks that the IRA was a terrorist group they werent they were doing what they had to free they're country ffrom the british
sk8r2221 1 year ago
@sk8r2221 you mean the English/Normans - I'm from Yorkshire - before they started on the irish they "made of the North a wasteland" - yup - us
cervusadfontes 1 year ago
@cervusadfontes yeah i know i was just trying to make a point
sk8r2221 1 year ago
Don't forget plunkett was Englsih - & a true republican - so stop the irish v english racist crap
cervusadfontes 1 year ago
Politics aside, this is a very emotive song lyrically. Although it does borrow melody from Gordon Lightfoot's 'The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald'.
deadheroesclub1 1 year ago
@deadheroesclub1 I agree. Which is what I was trying to say with my first post. Great lyric no matter who wrote it. (If you read the bit on Christy's website, he says that this is significantly shorter than the version he first heard. I'd like to hear the rest of it.)
MsStBoom 1 year ago
@deadheroesclub1 It's the other way around. The Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald borrows the melody from this song.
alwayswinit4real 10 months ago
Where does this version appear? I have the Ride On album and this is a different recording to it?
CountryAndFolkMusic 1 year ago
nice city glad to see the brits admit they where just secterian bastards to my friends in derry all the best jfk glasgow
JohnKennedy57 1 year ago
Love Christy Moore ,and I'm English ! Fcuk the Queen the Pope the IRA and the UDA !
Leggsy 1 year ago
Aah... "In 1803 we sailed out to sea, Out from the sweet town of Derry."
But wait, what's Derry got to do with Robert Emmet's 1803 rebellion,which took place in Dublin?
And there's no record of any convict ship sailing from Ireland in 1803 (and only 1 from England).
And there's no record of any convict ship sailing from Derry, ever. Mostly they sailed from Cork, Dublin and Waterford.
Pah.
vaughanclooney 1 year ago
@vaughanclooney Seriously? It's a song not a classroom assignment. Repeat after me: "Poetic license." Songs/poems are intended to invoke a mood, and this one surely does that. Gives me chills if it catches me in the right light. "A rebel I came, and I'll die the same" - I always get the feeling it's Bobby telling us the truth about himself, rather than just part of the story, when I hear that line.
I love this song, one of my favourites, and Christy does it justice - but what would you expect?
MsStBoom 1 year ago
@MsStBoom You've been given me history lectures on another part of youtube and you actulay have the nerve to critise Vaughanclooney for pointing out the historical errors in this song! Seems like rebels can just make up history to suit there political aims. They are far too ready to use propaganda and lies to influence the tiny minds of their blind followers.
Noddy1690 1 year ago
@Noddy1690 I'm an amateur historian and an occasional poet, and I recognize that there's a difference between the two. I also remember that old adage "never let the truth get in the way of a good story". Maybe no convict ship sailed from Derry, maybe none from Ireland in 1803, but Bobby Sands certainly didn't make them up in order to write this song.
I also know that when a person resorts to personal attacks they've lost the debate.
MsStBoom 1 year ago
@MsStBoom Bobby Sands was a terrorist do you support the IRA? Are you proud of what they did?
Noddy1690 1 year ago
@Noddy1690 That's an incredibly complicated question that I can't answer here. All soldiers are terrorists, that's the unfortunate nature of modern warfare. I consider myself a Nationalist (Republican if you'd rather), so I do support the cause the PIRA was fighting for.
As for Bobby Sands, within the scope of this topic especially, I respect him first and foremost as a poet and as a rather remarkable young man. I admire him not because of what he did but because of who he was.
MsStBoom 1 year ago
@MsStBoom What did he do that was remarkable? I would hardly say that getting involved in terrorism, taking your own life, writing crap songs, not washing and smearing your cell walls in excrement are very wise or clever things for anyone to do.
Noddy1690 1 year ago
@Noddy1690 It's all context isn't it? I'm not inclined to get into a 500-character-at-a-time philosophy discussion, but the fact that we're still talking about him 30 years after he died seems fairly remarkable to me.
MsStBoom 1 year ago
@MsStBoom People are still talking about Hitler but that doen't mean that he was a good person. There were some really nice people who lost their lives during the PIRAs campaign of violence and terror. It's a shame that the IRA victims are not remembered while low lifes like Sands have their deads glorified in film.
Noddy1690 1 year ago
@Noddy1690 The comparison to Hitler rather seriously diminished the rest of your argument, which was otherwise valid. A better choice might have been somebody like the man I met a few years ago who had been a soldier with the Wehrmacht. Nice old fella, I quite liked him. We talked about cats.
Anyway, what you say does deserve comment, and I'll address it in another comment box. Following ASAP.
MsStBoom 1 year ago
@Noddy1690 The US Army (and probably the Brits) has a phrase that always makes me cringe; "Collateral Damage." It means "People who got in our way and don't really matter." Another phrase you hear that I hate is "Acceptable losses" because you have to wonder why even one is acceptable or how many it takes to be unacceptable.
Far too many people, innocent and otherwise, died on both sides of the argument. My heart aches for all of them. All, 'Irish' or 'Brit', were my countrymen.
Reply pt 2 next.
MsStBoom 1 year ago 2
@Noddy1690 As I said earlie, my admiration for Bobby Sands stems not from what he did but from who he was. Actually, I have respect for any man (or woman) who is willing to stand up and put themselves in harms way for the place or people they love. Even if I don't always agree with what the pols are doing with them.
Without the what it's true I wouldn't know about the who, but the who not the what is the man I suspect I would like personally. As I probably would like many people on both sides.
MsStBoom 1 year ago 8
@Noddy1690 Every man, woman and child who has died in the world will have been and shall be remembered by their families, they will live through them. And if youn think Sands was a low-life for standing up for what he believed was right, and what was right then I suggest you read a fuckin' book. The only low-lives were the soldiers like the ones that shot down those 13, unarmed, civil rights protesters in 1972. Tiocfaidh ar la!
KungfuCow5 1 year ago
@Noddy1690 Up. The. Ra.
CountryAndFolkMusic 1 year ago
@Noddy1690
dickhead
zebrowski67 1 year ago
innocent! bloody sunday was a failure for the british but a cause to hate the brits. stupit cunts! R.I.P the 14 dead.
Sparkavich 1 year ago
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tomhamilton8 1 year ago
british should just leave the north of ireland the brits are the most stupit nation in the world you cant take a land without getting a fight but one things about us irish is that we will never give up we won by the gun and we are wining in the votes and next the green white white and yellow flag will fly over stromont and there will be peace over the land. from belfast
Sparkavich 1 year ago
RIP Bobby.TAL
adrianbelll 1 year ago
R.I.P Bobby Sands
Free Ulster
end british oppression
TheRealConorKelly 1 year ago
Bobby Sands M.P. !!!! TAL!!!
paisleybhoy88 1 year ago
This song is very like "The wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald" bt Gordon Lightfoot, check it out. Legend Christy Moore, great Kildare man, Up the lillies
hotelpolo 1 year ago
well done christy...a true legend...
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jackthebrickie1 1 year ago
i wish i was back home in dery FREE derry lol TAL
HardcoreHeavenHCTID 1 year ago
That's a really great song, nice text by Bobby Sands (if i'm not mistaking).
Greetings from Québec.
Vice le Québec libre!
Eire gu bragh!!!
markuspatriot 1 year ago
Oops I meant «Vive» not «vice» lollllll
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GOD BLESS THE IRA + IRELAND
calBHA1 1 year ago 28
@calBHA1 - god bless the hunger strikers and bobby sands,and the IRA..
TumFlumBlackMetal 1 year ago
Oi, he has a crack at Van Diemans Land in this! It is freezing, but no so hellish anymore :) Pretty boring spot though. Granddad was from Derry, had to leave to PA I think. Not that I think arguing on the intertubs will help matters much, but it'd be good to see the brits gtfo and learn that their old colonialism is dead and not wanted or needed.
darkklaxxon1 2 years ago
very very well said!!!!!
2009jimmy2009 1 year ago
i am a true ulsterman,and i love ireland.AND A PROD BUT EITH PRIDE
karmapeach 2 years ago
@karmapeach this is for englishman, i lived in belfast all my llife an had to put up wit english soliders on the streets, everytime i here there has been ann brit killed in afganistan it brins a smile to my face, its another war u will never won
inisboy1 2 years ago
@inisboy1 you are vile and still living in the past. Grow up. Most people i meet in Ireland are decent people that are looking to the future. I'm an English protestant and I'm moving to Derry in the new year and marrying my Irish Catholic girlfriend.
amazingsteve 1 month ago
@amazingsteve Derry is Awesome
cneeso5101 3 weeks ago
@karmapeach
inisboy1 2 years ago
Listen folks... let the deluded British bastards speak their vile pish ... the world has heard it for hundreds of years... The fact remains that Ireland will never be at peace until the 6 counties are unified... The British Army are murdering bastards!! Tiocfaidh Ar La
donteffinswear 2 years ago 2
I haven't heard this version from Christy Moore before. Weird. The man can take the same song and sing in two different ways, and both are amazingly beautiful.
KevKli3 2 years ago 2
love the song,so glad in a way that i grew up in offaly and not derry or in the midst of the war in the north,when will ireland be free of the crown,people frown on israel,look a bit closer to home people,ie england!
MrLalalooney 2 years ago 2
It doesn,t matter who we didnt conspire with or who we did, we will never accept english rule in our country..... ye can talk all the shite ye want but , i want happiness in my land.....
REDBACKDEAD 2 years ago 52
@REDBACKDEAD
jesus christ i'm only drunk, but seriously....we'll never accept it? fuck off.....
dwayneshintzy 1 year ago
@REDBACKDEAD Are you on drugs? The British presence in Ireland is not in the uniforms of the British Army, it's in the million British citizens in Ulster. Think you can get rid of them? Good luck!
Ballysillanone 1 year ago
@Ballysillanone No Im not on drugs....I dont think those British citizens can be got rid of,and that shouldnt be the aim, but eventually they will accept that they live in Ireland and we are all one, and we will have a united Ireland for all people regardless of creed etc
REDBACKDEAD 1 year ago
@Ballysillanone No we are integrating them, look at the school system, catholic church out and we will let them march each summer, they can also have a free boat trip back 2 scotland if they so wish! A united ireland is further away than ever because of the economic situation! i wish our young would get educated instead of joining the REAL IRA! You cant bomb and shoot them in2 a united ireland! but it is coming! wont be 2016 maybe 2045. 200 years since an gort more.
derrylad23 1 year ago
@derrylad23 There is less of a gap between UK and Ireland now, I grant you that. But for most of us, we dont feel any urge to jump into bed with the Republic. There has been a British presence in Ireland for centuries....Republicanism simplifies it in a way that will never work.
Ballysillanone 1 year ago
@derrylad23 tOO A LONG A FORECAST, BUT i AGREE WITH YOUR SENTIMENTS
REDBACKDEAD 1 year ago
as for afganistan , what about it , one of the soldiers killed was from the republican of ireland . the only thing i have about it is, that theres not enough troops and the equipment provided has not been good enough , as for the campaign its well justified , 9/11, bali , madrid railway station, the american embassey in kenya, and may other anti west targets , most of which happend before the troops went in, we supported our allies , as do several other nato countries ,against the taleban
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
healing old wounds,never forgetting history because that's how we learn but forgiving.I for one accept tony blair's apology for the irish famine,it was dignified and just.what i concentrate on is trying to prevent history repeating itself.the illegal war waged in iraq by your country is an example.american troops land in ire on their way to iraq...pick your battles mate."fighting" 'ra videos on youtube is only giving them a platform and achieves nothing. sin é do freagair a mhac,tabhairt aire.
Frankieireland 2 years ago
As a man born n bred in N Ireland this song has resonance of grief and loss. God bless Christy and me fellow Northerners. One people one island. Peace
gelboy61 2 years ago
this guy who write called the might of the english is a hair raiser, we doon't know much here in america about your history or how you FEEL so why don't you get someone to help you publish it,like inthe new yorker or the new york times magazine on a sunday morning eh?! love your writing and comments it
's o.k with e, even though the war's over....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111
softwear1 2 years ago
a hair raiser hey , you want to read up exactly what the IRA have done in the last 30odd years , the atrocities , the murders,kidnappings,the beatings ,kneecappings,the soft military targets,the bankrobberies , who was it that was there for america after the 9/11 atrocity , not the irish ,thats for sure , you want to read just who the IRA have murdered , they are no freedom fighters thats for sure
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
shut up
saintsimon47 2 years ago
support and supported british imperialism.I'll let you have the last word then if no one replies to you, you can stop listening to back home in derry, you must know it off by now.or you can be the bigger man and leave without a reply!!?can you?!Friendly advice:protest against your country's illegal war and illegal detention laws and try to build bridges with islam,that would be a worthwhile and great thing for any english man to do. good luck, ádh mór.
Frankieireland 2 years ago
This "might of the black'n'tans" guy has been on this page for weeks lads, chuireann sé isteach orm freisin,cheapaim gur buachaill óg é,b'fhéidir 15 nó 16.Best to ignore him.We have yet to establish why he's here instead of defending his beloved country in afghanistan,think he prefers to do his fighting from his room in his mum's house.Bhain taitneamh as an amhráin seo, is breá liom é. Saol fhada agus bás in éireann!!
Frankieireland 2 years ago
frankie,you,ll have to repeat that in english ,as the vast majority of your countrymen cannot speak that lost language your speaking, i only come back to answer your comments,so dont answer and i wont reply ,i think you sould look at yourself mate, 24 ,been out of school a few years hey ,what have you done so great in life ,supporting murder,bombings,kidnappings,torture,and,racism, hey my conscious is crystal clear,try explaining to god your support of IRA murderers when you meet your maker
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
what's school got to do with it?When did i say i supported the IRA?I did upto a very certain point.last census put us irish speakers at 400,000.If you support brit troops in iraq or try to explain away bloody sunday as you did then your conscious shouldn't be clear.i'm not half as extreme as you're making me out to be.You're sad enough to go checking out my home page to see what age i am.i have many english mates,they agree that its the rich and ignorant that
Frankieireland 2 years ago
scummy knacker
bradsheridan 2 years ago
brad the gay boy ,and i mean boy lol
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
Thiochfaidh ar la!!!!!!!!!!
Mantgm240 2 years ago
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TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
way to much time on ur hands mate.....
TheStevo345 2 years ago
"There can never be peace in Ireland until the foreign suppressive British presence is removed, leaving all the irish people as a unit to control their own affairs and determine their own destinies as a sovereign people, free in mind and body separate and distinct physically, culturally and economically" Bobby Sands MP 1954 - 1981
Beneaththesorrow8 2 years ago 2
Just get the guns and kick them out like we did in Croatia,and clean your parliament first of traitors and freemasons so called Irish politicians and then u have good foundation to establish proper army ,God bless UNITED IRELAND !!
Croat
zokomadi 2 years ago
Resistance
Beneaththesorrow8 2 years ago
all we irish were doing was protectin r areas but ur ruc couldnt do shit about the roits so u's had 2 call in the brits... yes we thought oh yeah cool sweet this is the english standing up against stromount but as we all no dat wass nat the case so happened a long and dirty war!!!!! the ira fought brave against one of the biggest armys the the world also the ruc and 3rd but nat least the loyalists! 3 against 1 we fought agaisnt. so in that situation any1 would say they would get defeated..
ryancvr 2 years ago
to TheMightOfTheEnglish.... ill start of with U ENGLISH SMELLY CUNT GO FUK UR MOTHER AND TELL UR DA TO STOP FUKIN HIS MOTHER!!!!!! ni wat do u no about ireland and its people ur on dis talkin balls, how did the troubles start... it startd when the ira wasnt even around it startd wen r irish people of the north were acting for there civil rights by marching and the ruc and loyalists started atackin the marches.... the the loyalists burnt out homes in the bogsand area then...
ryancvr 2 years ago
the paltry english army couldnt do it either, so i guess murder replaces logic.
Boru001 2 years ago
Mmm perhaps that why the IRA now sit defeated....No arsenal, funds sequestrated, its leaders subjugated into sitting in a British assembly taking theor dosh from the Queen and Irealnd is not united...Oh and Sinn Fein lost the vote on Lisbon!!!! FUBAR boru, or is it WAFU???
MrGrumpybugger 2 years ago
murder in Derry: paras shoot 14 dead,
hello.... .. court
Boru001 2 years ago
hello murder in birmingham 21 dead and hundreds more ,weres their justice
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
In case you aven't heard the news, aussies are coming home in body bags and if ye english ave anyting more to do wit it , there will be bombs goin off here, f#@king poms, i clicked on this page to listen to a bit of christy, wot r you doin ere, join a club r somting, tiochfiadh ar la.....
TheStevo345 2 years ago
aussie irish nomark , the british in helmand are doing the worst of the fighting ,along with the canadians next door in kandahar , ill tell you what im doing here fucker , i to like christie moore , but im not going to say nothing to all this republican shite wrote down, you havent a clue shit for brains , if the nationalists and loyalist would of got on together there would be no need of the army there , they protected the nationalists until the ira started their terrorist shit
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
i think you'll find shit didnt happen till the britsh fucking army murdered 14 people on Bloody Sunday and then the volunteers for the IRA shot up. The Brititsh Army have no right to be in Afganistan the same way they had no right to be in Ireland
pawloustheanimator 2 years ago
blah blah that old chestnut again , change the record . one they souldnt of been on a banned march, 2, a peaceful march hey, a sizable crowd rioted , took no notice of stewards trying to prevent it , at least one shot was fired from the protesters and a photo of a gunman taken,,it was the actions of individual soldiers that day, we dont revel in the deaths of innocent people , and it wasnt orders from ,westminster , republicans are responsible for 2 thirds of deaths in ulster
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
as for afganistan we do have every right , backed by the UN,and many other countries, the people of afganistan do not want the taleban to return to power , read up what they did ,the main reson we are there ,is because al queheda ,whatever , taleban let them train their ,9/11,bali,american embassey in kenya,the attack on uss cole,spanish madrid bombing , and so on, the taleban were co responsible ,so to right we sould boot them out , saudis,pakistanis,chechens,and foreign muslims are there to
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
Your attitudes never change, ....always an excuse......always a reason for your country's crimes....shame on you....TAL
REDBACKDEAD 2 years ago
redback, have you ever heard gerry adams and co, its always someone elses fault , never his gangs fault , the republicans were responsible of 2 thirds off all deaths in the troubles , the army less than 300
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
who started d troubles retard...orange bastards
deanS9000 2 years ago
why are you here? At least let us our music and stop harrassing us here. There's peace here now, lets just enjoy christy singing a rebel song.
Frankieireland 2 years ago
peace ?tell that to the real ira and co, the attempted murder of a policeman,with a bomb in the family car,the few hundred pound bomb near the border,the threats and intimidation,over there and over hear , go tell them its over ,its them who are the problem,its a shame the provos dont sort them out for their anti social behaviour ,no one wants them
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
Do you live in ireland? What do you know?? There is indeed peace in the north. Couple of thugs doing that stuff...we have worse from the gangs down in limerick. i advice you to worry about your boys getting massacred out in afghanistan.oh and guy fawkes is the only man to ever enter the english parliament with honest intentions!!
Frankieireland 2 years ago
you dont live in the north so what do you know , anyway , i cant wait for the day when irelands united, then the problem is yours ,and the expense , peace is there , compared to what it was there is ,but the threat is there still, if theres peace then a protestant from shankill could walk down the falls ,without threat of being attacked, theres still punishment beatings ,ive seen how the south view orange parades ,as in the dublin march,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
guy fawkes and his mob ,had no support among the greater catholic population of england, he and his mates were executed but there was no backlash aganst catholics as a whole , which there would of been if they had succeeded,as for afganistan you cant comment being neutral and all,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
you still haven't said why you're here?!Good to see that the brits have as much respect for freedom of speech as ever..i can't comment on afghanistan cos i'm neutral?!have fun detaining families for 28 days without charge and shooting brazilians in the tube,great country...if you want to give back the north then please convince the rest of your countrymen then our nation will be finally free like the south with religious freedom and equality.pity a modern guy fawkes doesn't kill all imperialists
Frankieireland 2 years ago
why im here , have you ever been on the noraid website , and comments left by irish americans , and all the other ira videos here and the twisted anti english anti british comments , thats why im here , you from the south go on about the north , without eventhinking what it would mean,, you were saying go home brits in 1969 , no you ever think what would of happend if we had just left then,,,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
your not free ,youve just signed many laws away to europe , and the catholic church still influences your democratic government ., a woman cant have an abortion , what about that pregnant school girl who came here with ,her mother,to have an abortion, she was ordered home ,and see did, only to have a miscarriage, hey i read about limerick,and for a small town the violence happening there , nice country hey, drug dealers,rapes shootings,the ryans,keanes,dundons,macarthys, nice place
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
you're so brave to defend britain on the internet.i see you've had a month long tour of duty on this youtube page.your mother must be so proud!my guess is that you're either 15 or don't have a girlfriend or both.i'm a proud european,it's OUR sovereignty to give away anyway.we have signed up to the same protocols as you brits.you've some nerve to talk to irish people about "rape", it's gone down somewhat since the british army left.go and defend your country in afghan and go home with no legs.
Frankieireland 2 years ago
, hey you know nothing at all what ive done or do , so what i come in here ,some get pissed and beat their wives up, some watch x factor , some plant bombs and blow up kids up, some like in your town,go round killing each other over drugs, i spend mabbe an hour at the most haveing a look around here , people can spend 2hours looking at a news paper , funny how you have to revert to mothers , watch your mouth , by the way she is proud as ive never brought trouble home ,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
as i said ive never brought trouble home, ive never borrowed ,or scrounged ,i dont drink or smoke and never took drugs, i pay my bills and taxes ,im kind and generous to my friends and family,help anyone out, in trouble ,you know fuck all, i had my moments and battles,knocked a few out ,never been arrested ,almost ,when i was a younger idiot like yourself
as you said its your sovereignty to give away , and youve done that alright , we had no vote ,you had two, it would be kicked out here
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
this country voted for a common market , not a fedral european union , we have not voted for that , and would be rejected , europe has nothing for us, we put in more than take out , , as well as put money into projects all round the world , proud to be a european ,why? youve done fuck all to contribute towards it , apart from the brave irishmen in ww1,who arnt even celibrated on your isle, , youve had plenty of handouts and thats the only reason your in it for ,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
you make a big deal of being neutral, in case of a major war, how can you be proud of that , what you going to do let the rest of us defend europe , whlle you sit back ,slagging the british off,about cromwell and famines in the distant past, as for you going on about rape , your priests are pretty adapt at that as for afganistan , there are southern irish in the british army, at least one has been killed there ,,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
"i never brought trouble home to my mother."That is the funniest single youtube comment i've ever seen.thanks.A)i think you should read the paper instead of go on youtube to crusade for england;B)you voted for politicians who stayed in europe;C)there is no federal europe;D)I'm proud of my ancestors who fought in the spanish civil war,for france in the 17 and 18 century and several countries in north and south america;E)I'm extra proud of my relatives in the IRA who won our freedom.
Frankieireland 2 years ago
whats so funny about being law abiding and not being, hey the ira havent nothing to be proud of and their mothers , who supported them , murderers , and include the loyalists to, bet that mother of the yong lad who set off the shankill bomb was well proud , and the mothers of the ira who set off the inniskillen bomb , or the mothers of the ones who kidnapped that catholic mother of ten ,who they murdered , there aiming for a fedral europe , its not the common market ,what we voted for
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
we had no vote over this latest erosion of our freedoms, we also fought in the spanish civil war , as for your ira relatives , the whole thing was unessesary, as you would of got your independence anyway, without all that bloodshed , look at the casuality figures , of the so called war if independence , then look at the so called civil war , far more were killed .irish on irish , over the treaty ,, and even more would of ,if there had not been partition
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
bull
for one we didnt get independance we wherent promised it it was home rule
2 we gained dominion status not independance
3 partition was an undemocratic act wich was pointed out by gladstone before it was brought in and i quote"5/6 of ireland has voted for independance a democratic majority"
wolfbrother2501 2 years ago
wolf , you know more than me obviously , i did say you wernt technically promised independence , but you would of got it,every other country in the empire got it either sooner or later , after ww1 ,americas woodrow wilson set the league of nations ,part of which says within europe countries have the right to self determination , and again later with the united nations ,, so ireland would of got their independence anyway, ,home rule had been promised several times ,but blocked by unionists
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
you may have wanted a republic , but a very sizable minority ,who were the majority in the north , threatend all out war , and the resulting civil war would of been devastating , ,on a par with the bosnian ,serb genocide , if we had pulled out completely . there would be no law and order , to stop both sides commiting ,god knows what atrocities,, who would stop it, the ira,anti and pro treaty factions commited terrible atrocities, during the civil war, that was the main reason collins signed
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
the treaty , if we had just pulled out , and tens of thousands had been killed , the question would of been,why didnt the british stop it ,damned if we stay,damned if we left. the same question rose when we pulled out of india fast ,, why didnt the british stop the inter communal killings , thousads of muslims and hindus died , they wanted independence, they got it , muslims could not live with hindus , so they seperated , i think that may have happend in ireland to, anyway
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
collins signed because lloyd george treatened "imediate and terribal war" if the delagation didnot sign within two hours collins was the leader of the volunteers at the time and knew that they had not got the ammunition to continue also due to the negotiations their one advantage anonimity was lost as chamberlain said "take as many pictures of collins we have him now"
wolfbrother2501 2 years ago
the league of nations said no to ireland being considered sadly
ironic really as after 1916 they accepted home rule for themselves lmao
wolfbrother2501 2 years ago
you gained home rule and dominion status ,but didnt de valera announce a republic later , we didnt object or did nothing about that did we, why would we want to keep hold of ireland,no reason, apart from industries in the north , most put there by britain, the main reason ,was objection by the unionists and threat of open warfare , , dont know wether its correct ,in the film micheal collins , collins said that de valera ,sent collins to london ,as he knew he wouldnt get the north,
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
we never got home rule the north got home rule. develera didnot announce a republic he just cemented the rupublic that was declared in 1916. what Dev did was remove the king from the constitution and remove the oath (what started the civil war). the reasons the conservative majority put forth for keeping ireland where 1 it would weaken the empire 2 it would provide a backdoor into britian for her enemies and 3 "the irish are an inferior race and not fit to govern themselves" a quote from an mp
wolfbrother2501 2 years ago
tell me why when there was a referendum was held on 1973 ,why the nationalists boycotted it, apparently harold wilson ,after the collapse of the sunningdale agreement because of ulster workers council strike, he considered a rapid withdrawel of NI,both of army and administration ... this is exactly what he local nationalists had been screaming since 1969,troops out,, but garret fitzerald ,minister of foreign affairs and the irish cabinet
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
that was the nationalist policy not to requgnise the government infact even down in the south there are anti treaty nationalists who do not even requnise the dublin government
wolfbrother2501 2 years ago
the irish cabinet concluded that such a withdrawal would lead to widescale civil war and a greater loss of life,the irish army of 12.500 could do little to prevent...... thats exactly what ive been saying all along , its easy to say troops out without thinking what would of happend ,the same would of happend in the early 20s if we had just left . as for the mp quote , a lot of mps everywhere made stupid and outrageous quotes then ,you sould see quotes about the turks then
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
as i was saying the whole partion and irish politics in general was and is so complex ,it wasnt that easy to just pack up and go home , hopefully it will be peacefully sorted ,if the men of violence would just give it a rest ,as its them who have delayed any agreements whatever they say, its not us british you have to sort out but the loyalist unionist peoples of the north
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
devalera didnt declare a republic, it was Fine Gael who declared it, so fuck off you english cunt!!!!!!
Mantgm240 2 years ago
who cares paddy , hope your happy in your little backwater ,we,ll be well rid of you , ill dance, to, the day your united , thank god for that , the problem will be yours then and good riddance
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
Whatever you retard!!!!!!
Mantgm240 2 years ago
rich coming from the likes of you
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
ave u notin better to do!!!!!!!!
Mantgm240 2 years ago
i could say the same for you lol ,, see you at the world cup ,ohh thats right ,your not going are you haha ,viva le france
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
fuckin handicap, get a life u rtard
Mantgm240 2 years ago
lol touchy arnt you ,is that all you can say ,i pity you ,born into hatred and bitterness i think its you lot who should get a life ,mabbe take that massive chip off your shoulder while your at it
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
go and suck the queens cock
Mantgm240 2 years ago
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TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
how many innocent people have the british army sluaghtered in Ireland, and how many people were killed by the IRA, i think youl find the the brittish army killed far more innocent people than the IRA ever did, how can you defend people like the black n tans, your a fuckin handicap
Mantgm240 2 years ago
Only for British imperialism there would have been no IRA, no need to fight for justice and freedom, the brits need to look at themselves, for it is they who have reaped havoc throughout the world....Right up til this day......Even though now, they are losing control of their beloved homeland!!!!
REDBACKDEAD 2 years ago
REDBACK what had british imperialism got to to with the troubles from 1969 onwards,the ira were almost none existent in 69 , the problem was caused by the loyalist\unionist led goverment of northern ireland,we were probably guilty of letting you all get on with it,.the ira did nothing for the civil rghts of others apart from misery and destruction,almost 40 years.republicans got a lot futher by politics and discussion,that armed resistance,youll find it was the terrorists who caused the havoc
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
Well because British Imperialism led your forefathers to take my land, that is why the irish fought against you and your kind and always will.......you have a warped sense of history.....any person with a decent sense of justice understands that the Irish cause was just....and for the record it began long before 1969......and it aint over yet....free united Ireland thats all we want
REDBACKDEAD 2 years ago
dont talk bollocks,if you read your history england ,after we left the catholic church , was a small weak country compared to france an spain,the pope even put a contract out on elizabeth the first , scotland to were conspiring against us,as were you irish,you were invaded to protect these shores ,tough ,live with it , goes back even futher asyou know ,but the normans were originally invited , your country was never as one before anyway , an island of several kings and tribes fighting each other
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
cromwell came over for the same reasons, one because you attacked and slaugtered protestant settlers ,a few years earlier and two,england was in a civil war ,the last of the loyalists over there in ireland, you irish joined the loyalists , and again tough,you lost ,but insted of keeping to any peace settlements,you always kept up a guerilla campaign , which didnt do anthing to kick the english out , just led to futher misery and starvation and desease,your your own worst enemy,always have been
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
cromwell like all english invaders teried a religious polgrem
ireland was dividedinto feifdoms but rulers answered to a High king and was united under him
wolfbrother2501 2 years ago
cromwell wasnt as bad(compared with other campaigns on the continent in that era),who was it that attacked the protestant settlers, cromwell sacked drogheda ,which had more protestants than catholics there , and wexford to , others towns were spared, the irish leader ,set free ,and banished, if cromwell was as bad as the irish make out ,he would of laid waste every town
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
the IRA attacked many civilian targets, laid waste to their own town centres , and english civilian targets , they didnt care about civilian deaths ,you republicans say its war , and dont turn a blind eye about deaths in birmingham ,warrington etc , the checens want independence , are the checens who took that school over , terrorists or freedom fighters , in your eyes they are fighting for freedom, in my eyes they were terrorist scum,nothing to be proud of supporting people like that
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
wasnt as bad? lol "to hel or to connacht" the protestant settlers wherent attacked for being protestant but for being invaders
wolfbrother2501 2 years ago
invaders , they had been there a hundred years or so , they wernt armed warriors , they were unarmed men women and children, again cromwell if he was bad as you say could of laid waste the whole of ireland, wexford and drogheda were dealt with under the code of the day,, yield or be put to the sword ,, terrible by todays standards but the norm in europe during that time,ive said before look at the 30 years war,in europe ,far more devastating than cromwell ever did
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
i always wondered how st patrick got away with not being thrown back into the sea , seeing that everything foreign, normans vikings english british,were resisted to the full, yet some bloke walks in and changes all old pagan customs and religion to follow some foreign stranger who said he was son of god .must be the only foreigner that managed to dictate to the irish ,without resistance
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
your calling the troubles since 1969 a just cause , youve got to be joking , the civil rights movement was a just cause ,of course , you would of even had the backing of the average british person if you had kept it as non violent . the catholics were very greatful the army came in, they were ,and what was left of the IRA ,blame your trouble makers of turning a civil rights cause into a united ireland cause ,without the bombs the shooting,assasinations, we wouldnt of been there ,blame yourselves
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
free united ireland ,now thats a joke , one , youve sold your independence away to europe , and 2 , the unionist peoples of the north ,arnt going anywhere , and once your united , your going to have to pay for the north, and if it kicks off again ,which it could if you upset the protestant community , you,ll pay dearly , , you condem us yet,if we had pulled out in 69 , you,d have tens of thousands dead ,not just 3,500, we were the only force trying to keep the peace,and you know it
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago
tit
Lesleyghirl1 2 years ago
the civil rights was a just cause but how could it stay peaceful when your state attacked it through the b specials at bombay st and the parachute regiment at ballymurphy and derry. your army doesn't work for peace it works for submission. we don't want that, the dishonour of bending the knee to a family off inbreeds, emotionaly retarded greedy fascist icons. for the sake of dignity there will always be people who will fight and thank god for it.
otor 2 years ago
Dont agree with you at all, you have warped the facts to suit your political beliefs.....sounds a lot like bnp propaganda or something
REDBACKDEAD 2 years ago
@REDBACKDEAD No the BNP have some form of common sense, that argument is from the mouth of one who believes the english were right to come murder, rape torture and otherwise dominate the Irish who never once invaded a country. Anyone wanna look at how the british "EMPIRE" came about? MightOfTheEnglish how about this, to hell or to england? Cromwell was scum and you know it. As are all your kind.
Kieran0410 2 years ago
keiran , the BNP have some sort of commonsense , lol weres yours ,, the bnp leaders are semi illiterate , and brain dead , they must be , they deny the holocaust ever happend, they contest the numbers murdered ,that there were no ovens or furnaces, they think the sun shone out of hitlers arse ,thats their downfall, all what happen was well documented,filmed ,thats what the germans are reknown for, the nazi,s documented everything ,my father fought them and uncles as did many irish
TheMightOfTheEnglish 2 years ago