@XxxxExclusivexxxX, your abject ignorance compels you to demand people "admit" to something that's not true. Would you stand up and announce your inability or refusal to educate yourself in reality? Think about it.
this is in no way intended to be a racist remark, but is it not ironic that a black man is being so prejudice despite what african-americans went through not even 100 years ago?
If he was a true God fearing Christian, he would go to a land where he can receive the punishment of the LORD for adultery as stipulated in Deuteronomy 22-22 and Leviticus 20-10 and be put to death.....
......which would have to be a Muslim country.
Irony he haz it.
Cherry picking and Christianity go together like Elton John and homosexuality.
wow,what a twat.britain lacks behind america in so many ways but we are streaks ahead in understanding homosexuals and not letting religion govern politics.
And if you think something like pedophilia is disgusting, then you should rethink your argument.
You can't say being gay is not a choice without agreeing that pedophilia is not a choice. In my opinion, it's still just a choice, but using your logic, I'd have to conclude it's just another mental disorder.
Some people out there may actually say that pedophilia isn't a choice, which if you agree with that, then I will actually respond to your arguments, since they wouldn't be so contradictory.
@khoraski PEDOPHILIA IS DISGUSTIN, A GROWN MAN RAPIN A LIL CHILD, EWW, AND A CHILD CANNOT CONSENT. THAT BECOMES EVERYONE BUSINESS CUS NOBODY WANTS THEY CHILD MESS WIT. IF I HAD CHILDREN, AND A GROWN MUFUCKA MESS WIT MY CHILD, I WOULD BE IN JAIL. WHAT KINDA GROWN PERSON IS ATTRACTED TO CHILDREN YOU CANT DO SHYT FOR YOU THEM IN A RELATIONSHIP. HOMOSEXUALITY IS WIT TWO CONSENSUAL GROWN AND YOUNG ADULTS, GROWN TEENS NOT HURTIN ANYONE, AND IF YALL DONT LIKE IT DONT LOOK EASY AS 1-2-3
@UMANEDAKIDD19 FAGGOTRY IS DISGUSTIN, A GROWN MAN RAPIN A MAN, EWW, AND A MAN CANNOT CONSENT (lolwut). THAT BECOMES EVERYONE BUSINESS CUS NOBODY WANTS THEY MAN MESS WIT.
ya, your argument makes no sense and goes both ways, and is extremely opinionated and prejudice
@khoraski A GROWN MAN CAN CONSENT, HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOIN SO ITS NOT RAPE, HELL ARE YOU TALMBOUT. A CHILD DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE OR SHE IS DOIN. YOU SOUND STUPID ASS FUCK. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT LOOK. THERRE NOT MESSIN WIT NO ONES MAN, THEY HAVE THERRE OWN MAN. AGAIN IF YOU DONT LIKE TWO MEN OR TWO WOMEN, THEN DONT LOOK EASY AS 1-2-3. IM STRAIGHT AND I HAVE PROBLEM WIT IT, IM NOT GOIN TO LOOK IMA KEEP ON BOUT MY BUSINESS. BUT WHEN IT INVOLVES GROWN PEOPLE AND CHILDREN, THATS A DIFFERENT STORY
@khoraski STOP BLAMIN EVERYTHING ON HOMOSEXUALITY. ONLY WHEN THE PEDOPHILE ACTS ON IT, IT IS A CHOICE, BUT NOT THE ATTRACTION TO A CHILD, WHICH IS STILL SICK, CUS WHAT CAN A CHILD TO EMOTIONALLY AND NATURALLY FOR A GROWN PERSON, EWW, I WOULD BE IN JAIL IF SOMEONE MESS WIT MY CHILD. WHEN YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE YOU TALMBOUT HOMOSEXUAL ACT, SO YOU SAYIN THAT ALL GAYS SHOULD BE IN THE CLOSET FOREVER AND BE WIT OTHERS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX AND BE SAD, BE MISERABLE? THATS WHAT YOU SAYIN.
THIS IS HERMAN CAIN? AS A STRAIGHT PERSON I KNOW ITS NOT A CHOICE, THE HELL IS HE TALMBOUT? SO IF HE SAYS ITS A CHOICE, SO HE CHOSE TO BE STRAIGHT, SO THERREFORE HES BI-SEXUAL. HES SAYIN HOMOSEXUAL ACT IS A CHOICE, AND HE WANTS GAYS TO BE IN THE CLOSET FOREVER AND DATE HETERO AND BE MISERABLE AND DISCONTENTED. IM BLACK, 20. HES A MORON. HES A HOMOPHOBE, JUS ADMIT IT AND STOP USIN THE "ITS A CHOICE" AS A COVER UP, THEY USE THAT SHYT AS AN EXCUSE TO BASH GAYS EVEN MORE
BLACK - YOUR PEOPLE ASKED FOR THE SAME RIGHTS AS WHITES AND TO BE FREE and here you are talking about TAKING AWAY GAY PEOPLES RIGHTS AND FREEDOM AND BEING PROUD TO BE WHO THEY ARE, JUST LIKE YOUR PROUD TO BE BLACK?
SHAME ON YOU!!
(I'm not offending any black person, this is just my personal message to Herman - the one who betraydes freedom and same rights for some other human beings, but I bet he's enjoying his other wise he wouldn't be running for president, but serving some white family).
Politics, not racism, likely motivates attacks on Cain. A black conservative like Clarence Thomas or Cain is more dangerous to Dems than an equally prominent white one. Dems count on the 90% black vote on election day. A black conservative offering an alternative view is a serious danger politically: if it reduces the black vote for Dems just to 75%, Dems lose. Thus, merely defeating Cain isn't enough. He must be destroyed as an influence in the future: character assassination is the means.
Well I was for Michelle Bachman until she was against gay merriage, then I went to Rick Perry until his family was racist, then I was for Herman Cain until this... Forget it!
I'm a Christian and I'm Gay too. I Chose to be Christian, but I did NOT choose to be Gay. Only bisexual people have a choice. God made me as I am, so it can't be a sin. It's HOW we live our lives~ choosing to be ethical, caring, loving, honest, sincere, helpful, hopeful and being a good decent person~THATS the choices I've made. So, sir, you are mistaken: Gay is NOT a choice, and I forgive you, your incorrect assumptions. May you come to know the TRUTH. Blessed Be*
hey numbnuts, there already IS science that proves being gay isnt a choice. i would think someone running for president would have a little bit of COMMON KNOWLEDGE
@kell1reilly2 Get the facts before you open your flap.
There's no science, you're just another butthurt gay.
THIS is why I dislike gays. They can't just be fucking normal! They are all butthurt and treat it like it makes them special that they were "born this way." What is wrong with you people, are you just so insecure about your choice you have to argue it and say stupid things? Can't you just be PROUD of your choice?
@khoraski SEE YOU JUS PROVED IT YOURSELF, THAT WHEN YOU SAY ITS A CHOICE, YOU WANT ALL GAYS TO BE IN THE CLOSET FOREVER AND NOT BE WHO THEY TRUE ARE, LIVE A LIE TO PLEASE YOU HOMOPHOBES AND BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX, SO THEY CAN BE SAD, MISERABLE. YOU DONT CARE BOUT THEY FEELINGS BUT YO OWN HOMOPHOBIC HATRED FEELINGS. HOW CAN YOU HOMOPHOBES HAVE SO MUCH HATE, AND I HATE WHEN YALL USE THAT "ITS A CHOICE" AS A COVER UP TO HIDE YALL HOMOPHOBIA, GIVIN YALL MORE REASONS TO HATE ON THEM SMH
@khoraski FACT IS = HOMO MEANS SAME AND HOMO WILL ALWAYS STAY THE SAME, SO THEY WILL ALWAYS STAY ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX, BUT SINCE PEOPLE LIKE YALL WANT THEM TO NOT FEEL HAPPY, THEY HAVE TO HIDE WHO THEY TRULY ARE TO PLEASE YALL BY BEIN WIT THE OPPOSITE SEX, WHICH THEY KNOW THEY DONT LIKE BUT THEY WANNA PLEASE YALL HOMOPHOBES SO YALL CAN BE HAPPY, FUCK YALL HOMOPHOBES FEELINGS, IF THEY WANNA BE GAY, LET THEM BE GAY AND BE HAPPY, STOP WORRYIN BOUT THEM AND WORRY BOUT YALL DAMN SELVES
@khoraski A PROUD CHOICE? THE FUCK? SEE MORE REASONS FOR YOU TO BE HOMOPHOBIC AGAINST THEM SMH. BORN GAY OR LESBIANS MEANS THATS HOW THEY'VE BEEN SINCE THEY WERRE 5 OR SO. THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX. NOBODY IS LITERALLY BORN WIT A SEXUALITY, YOUR SEXUALITY COMES NATURALLY TO YOU LIKE AT 5 OR SO OR AS YOU GET OLDER, MINE CAME AT 5 WHEN LIL GIRLS IN MY CLASS GOT ME AROUSED, I AINT KNOW WHAT WAS GOIN ON BUT I LIKED IT. YOU DONT CHOOSE YOUR ATTRACTION, YOU CHOOSE TO ACT ON IT
@khoraski jesus christ pal, u dont even know me & u insult me. thanks.
im proud of being gay. but im telling u i DIDNT choose to be gay. and theres plenty of science to back it up. the american psychological association, the american psychiatric association, the american academy of pediatrics, the american psychoanalytic association, the american medical association & the national association of social workers have all determined that its NOT a choice & that it cant be changed. research it
@khoraski I'm sure the entire LGBT community just feels so ashamed that they all have to make excuses, then, right? Coincidentally, the same excuse. Come on, man. That's just illogical, and you know it. You absolutely know that it's statistically improbable that the entire gay community has fallen back on the same 'excuse' of, "It's not a choice," to defend their sexuality.
@khoraski Also, hat about pride? Gay pride activists? If being gay was truly a choice, then wouldn't gay pride activists be saying, "I'm proud I CHOSE to be gay," rather than that they were simply born that way? You know as well as I do that the entire community isn't "shamed" to the point of all using the same "excuse" for their sexuality. Troll harder, bro.
The Human Rights Campaign has a petition to Herman Cain that infoms him that being gay is not a choice. In order to sign it and let Cain know that you are opposed to his inaccurate statement, all you have to do is google "Human Rights Campaign: Tell Herman Cain: Being Gay is Not A Choice." The link will lead you to the petition.
I wonder when Cain sat down and decided to be heterosexual. Perhaps he even madea list of pros and cons. Sorry buddy but if you had to make a deliberate choice to be straight then you're gay. If you didn't have to make a choice then it clearly isn't a choice.
@khoraski NO REAL STRAIGHT PERSON QUESTIONS THEY SEXUALITY, YOU'RE BI-SEXUAL. BI-SEXUALS ARE ATTRACTED TO BOTH SEX AND CHOOSE TO BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX OR OPPOSITE SEX. SO YOU COULDVE CHOSEN TO BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX BUT YOU CHOSE TO BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX, SEE WHERRE IM GOIN WIT THIS? EXACTLY, BI-SEXUAL. IM STRAIGHT AND NOT ONCE HAVE I EVER BEEN ATTRACTED TO GUYS MY 20 YEARS OF LIVIN, NOTHIN WRONG WIT BEIN GAY, LESBIAN, BI-SEXUAL, BUT IM ONLY ATTRACTED TO WOMEN
Being gay is as much of a choice as being black is a choice. Would Cain agree to turn white, to appease anti-black bigots? How sad that the prejudiced are all so STOOPID.
@GodCreatesGays2 ... You can't be born with a sexual preference. You sound so butthurt. Seems like you decided to be gay because you preferred it, but some person insulted you and you got all butthurt and created this YouTube account and went around bashing people and being stupid.
@khoraski NO ONE IS "LITERALLY" BORN WIT THEY SEXUALITY CUS WE DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS WHEN WE HOP OUT THE PUSSY, SEXUALITY COMES NATURALLY WHEN YOU'RE YOUNGER OR AS YOU GET OLDER, FOR ME, IT WAS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I WAS 5 AND IN MY CLASS LIL GIRLS TURNED ME ON, MY DICK WAS GETTIN HARD AND I DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS GOIN ON BUT I LIKED IT. BORN GAY OR LESBIAN MEANS THATS HOW THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN SINCE THEY WERRE LIL UP TIL NOW, NO CHANGIN THAT, THEY CANT HELP WHO THEY LOVE.
@khoraski IM 20 BLACK AND STRAIGHT. I WAS NEVER ROUND DURIN THE SLAVERY DAYS, BUT WHAT I FIND HYPOCRITICAL IS, THOSE SAME BLACKS WHO WERRE FIGHTIN FOR THERRE RIGHTS TO BE ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY ARE THE SAME ONES NOT SUPPORTIN GAYS WHO ARE FIGHTIN FOR THERRE RIGHTS TO BE ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY. YES THE DISCRIMINATION WAS DIFFERENT, YES YOU CANT HIDE THAT YOU'RE BLACK, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY DISCRIMINATION IS DISCRIMINATION. SO BLACKS OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST
@khoraski sobs, "You can't be born with a sexual preference"
You don't understand human sexuality or the human condition. I'd try to educate you, but clearly, you deem reality to be your enemy.
"Seems like you decided to be gay because you preferred it"
As expected, you're falling into the idiot's trap of assuming I must be "gay" simply because I'm better educated, more rational, and more enlightened than you are.
You homophobes are always hysterical. I love watching your IQs plummet. :)
And what was that? It's like you keep on praising yourself to enlighten your ego? xD
Wow, just like convincing yourself that being gay is a choice. You are SO ashamed of yourself, you have to convince yourself something that makes you feel better.
And I love how you insult me, and call me a homophobe, when clearly I have stated I am not.
So....any gay man could fall for the right girl but a straight man could "like some things that could be considered gay?" Like...what, musicals? Fashion? Another insert-stereotype-here? The equivalent of that statement would have been "any straight man could fall for the right guy." In which case, nobody would be one way or the other. :/ It's very interesting that you didn't say that if that was the point you wanted to make.
@MPHansen83 Throwing the word ignorance around is a sign you don't have an argument. I could be gay if I wanted to because my mind is not clouded with religious or cultural programming. It is free. i choose to be straight because I want children right now. Maybe in the future I'll look for a guy after my kids are grown.
@BoredomCorner You are projecting an insane fringes mentality onto the whole of society. Most people don't care about what other people do with their lives as long as you don't throw it in their face. Part of growing up is doing what you want regardless of what other people may think of you.
Alcoholics, pedophiles,schizophenics,bi-polars, folks with ADD, etc, there are all sorts of people born with tendencies, mental disorders, and urges of various types. They don't have a choise to be born with or without those tendenacies, they do have a choise in how they deal with them and how they live their lives. People with all those tendencies listed above live all around us but most have learned to channel and control their issues.
@oldschoolgreentube WHY YOU COMPARIN THEM TO HOMOSEXUALITY, ITS REALLY IRRELEVANT TO DO THAT. PEDOPHILIA, A GROWN PERSON BEIN ATTRACTED TO KIDS? THE FUCK? WHAT CAN A KID DO FOR A GROWN PERSON IN A RELATIONSHIP THEN WHEN THEY ACT ON IT, ITS RAPE CUS A CHILD CANNOT CONSENT, AND THAT HURTS THE CHILD AND BECOMES EVERYONE BUSINESS CUS NOBODY WANTS THEY CHILD MESSED WIT. WHILE HOMOSEXUALITY IS TWO CONSENTIN GROWN AND YOUNG ADULTS, GROWN TEENS, MINDIN THEY BUSINESS, SO HOW DOES THAT HURT OTHERS?
when blacks were lynched in the south(and they still are in some places)they could not turn white to stop the hanging !,you can repent and quit being a sissy and bulldagger in seconds,black is forever,gay is not!
@godschild928 IM STRAIGHT, BLACK, AND 20. YES BLACKS WERRE BUT GAYS ARE BEIN KILLED FOR WHO THEY ARE AND SOMETHIN THEY CANT CONTROL. HOMOSEXUALITY IS FOREVER. IF YOU HENCE THE WORD [HOMO] WHICH IT ALWAYS STAY THE SAME AND NEVER CHANGES, IF YOU WENT TO SCHOOL YOU WOULD KNOW THAT. IF A HOMOSEXUAL SO CALL TURNS THEN THEY WERRE NEVER HOMOSEXUAL TO BEGIN WIT. CUS HOMOSEXUALS DONT CHANGE THEY ALWAYS GONE BE ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX AND SAME SEX ONLY. SO UH YEAH, STFU.
oh my gosh you can tell that he totally knows he has no basis whatsoever for his argument. I've no clue who this guy is, but i gather he's a politician? He looks like a very weak one to me.
@sgal88 Gays should readily admit it was a choice they made, and it makes them deliriously happy at all times
They shout from the rooftops how great it is and they should also shout it is the best thing that ever happened to them. They should take full credit and admit it was a choice.
@1Makyo You know what I find interesting by these liberal persons. That it is okay to be gay or even to change one sex because they "feel" to be trapped in the wrong body but then they harrase and are wrathful against those homosexuals who want to change their feelings or refuse to acknolwedge their feelings and call it evil because God has said it is.
@ih8faggots10000 So what do you think about millions of men around the world jacking off to lesbian porn. Is that sick or is it just 2 men that you have a problem with? Honestly you are a twisted cunt but ignorance has always been the cornerstone of American society I suppose.
Being gay is not a choice at all. Honestly how can a black man, who's own race has experienced such discrimination, be anti gay, anti muslim, anti free choice when it comes to the woman deciding to have an abortion EVEN WHEN RESULT OF RAPE? He is a total bigot, altho 99% of republican politicians are. Fuck Cain!
Nothing in the Constitution about being gay, or abortions or marriage at all. The man is fucking delusional. Wants no government regulation of Big Faceless Corporations but wants to regulate the hell out of people private, personal lives. What a fucking douche bag.
Nature is replete with examples of same-sex intercourse. But you aren't interested in facts, just your preconceived notions. Ignorance actually is a choice.
The current consensus among scholars is that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Research suggests that homosexuality is caused by a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences, with biological factors involving a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment.
Why don't you just educate yourself and read what, for example, the APA and the Royal College of Psychiatrists have to say in this matter before writing any more nonsense?
Is being black a choice. After all... some blacks choose not to be... and some non-blacks try hard to be. And how about being a member of the Illuminati and the FED... a choice? Or choosing a president... another choice? Whatever happened to freedom of choice? Sounds to me like THAT's what Cain is against.
@vidhead85 You can chose to ignore it. Just like a mans urge to masterbate or rape or steal or get tatoo's or whatever. I find it sad that so many people case the entirity of there being on dealing with there sexual repression by evolving it into somthing completly assinine in anything but a rogue philisophical chess game of opinions.
@ashkaji BjornarERicSven, you are completely right on that. Second, choose to ignore being attracted to the opposite sex and let's see how well that does for you. i can choose to ignore it, in fact I have. It was torture! When you've successfully ignored your attractions to the opposite sex call me up and tell me how you did it. I bet I'll never get a call or msg from you about that! NEXT!
He wants scientific evidence. But I also want scientific evidence from him to prove to me that being gay IS a choice. He has none! Like he said, it's his OPINION. And his opinion shows that he is a another complete and utter ignorant homophobe that is involved in politics.
@JMDiscoRemixes A scientist has actually started the research a few years ago, but won't have any real data for a report until years from now. I heard him interview on a radio show, I don't remember the guys name. Who knows how many other scientists are on it now. I'm actually interested to see the results; I feel confident it will support the fact that we are with who we are with because of biological influences.
FUCK THESE DISGUSTING LIBERAL PUNDITS TRYING TO BELITTLE THIS MAN BECAUSE HE IS A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. ITS FUCKING SO RACIST AND SICK WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THIS BLACK AMERICAN MAN.
That is just a difference in REALITY, not opinion. The constitution of the United States compared to what? Obama was a constitutional lawyer and this clown was CEO of Godfather's pizza. Not really much political experience.
Dumber than a bag of hair. He is like most Republicans, he is convinced that he has all the answers but actually because the Koch brothers paid him millions of dollars to be their candidate and promote tax cuts for the rich.
@platipilot yeahh so where's you evidence? i'm actually gay and i am telling you right now, IT WAS NOT A CHOICE. how would you know what it's like if you're not gay yourself? thats just your own little opinion that NOBODY cares about because it is WRONG and you are holding back society with your selfish ignorant ways. so shutup. :)
Herman Cain is a loud-mouthed fool full of ignorant certitudes about things he doesn't understand. In short, a bigot. Bigots are always clear headed about what they believe, and they never stop for a moment to consider if their beliefs have any foundation at all. They are nothing but confident certainty. They listen to nobody but themselves. We've had so many self-confident fools in the Oval office lately. Do we need another one?
wow I NEVER chose to be gay, why would I chose to be bullied, harrassed, villified, be the but of every joke,and be denied civil rights? I tried so hard to be straight and prayed so hard that I would be some day. I tried dating and sex with girls, believe me I wanted to be striaght. I can't be straight! I'm through trying, becuase It will never work I'm gonna live my life the way I am supposed to, as a gay man. People like Herman Cain are sick! I want to know when he chose to be straight!
@sral187 Why would a smoker chose to have lung cancer? Or People who like percings and tatoos they chose to have a hard time finding a bluecollar job. Its a stupid argument and a cop-out. You chose to like men (or women if you are a girl) This is fact. This does not mean you are any less human, or any less deserving of the same individual rights as every other person in the united states. You're choices should not change the constitutional laws of the land, and I support all gays int hat fight.
@ashkaji if it is a choice, choose to be gay, just do it one day, becuase everybody chooses thier sexual orientation right?!?!?!? Just wake up and say, "I'm gonna be gay today," and see how it goes. You won't be able to do it, I know it! I have many times woken up and did try to chose to be straight, and it just didn't work. You know why it didn't work BECAUSE ITS NOT A CHOICE!!!! Im glad that you support gay rights, but your wrong about this choice If I could choose to be straight I would
You can easily. Me personally, I dont find men or women all that attractive. Blobs of flesh hair and fluid. I can marry though, and will find someone based on personality instead of tissue stimulation and fluid exchange. I guess that would be the crux of my argument. Just because you find one thing or another more sexually arousing does not mean it should run your life, or mandate some kind of unavoidable choice that will effect your entire life. There are plenty of people who make this mistake.
It's not a fact simply because you say so. Just cite me ONE legitimate health care or mental health care organisation stating that sexual orientation is a choice.
Science overwhelmingly says it is NOT a choice. He doesn't know that, because he does NOT want to know that.
More bluntly, when it comes to men, NO MAN decides what will make his dick hard.
Women though can just lay there and endure sex, which makes realizing you are a lesbian much harder especially since many women are still brought up to believe sex is disgusting. The thought that they hate it, because they are lesbian can be slow in coming.
Homosexuality is a behaviour no doubt and I hope Cain wins. We've seen enough of this gay sicko crap to the point where two psycho, evil lesbian women had the audacity to "change" a boy into a little girl in California. The boy's name was Thomas now it's "Tammy". Perverts.
@MrThebatman84 Tammy has said that she was a girl from the time she knew what the signs were. Her gender identity has NOTHING to do with her parents sexual orientation. You lose!
um.... your born being attracted to men. theres no choice in that. same thing with being straight. you can't just wake up and go " I decided I'm attracted to men now :D" it doesent work that way. sooo fucking ignorant...
Comparing color to sexual preference is like comparing oranges to apples. If you make that comparison, then you have to say people are born with the tendancy to abuse alcohol, murder, rape, do drugs, molestation, and have relationships with both the male and female species. Behavior is always a choice. Even a so-called "heterosexual" can easily become a bi-sexual or a homosexual if they so desire based on either external influence, childhood incidents of sexual abuse, etc. It's common sense.
@BattleCry4Him Behavior is always a choice, but being gay is more than a behavior. I can be gay and never have sex with a man. Behavior is more like "what you do" and be gay is more "who you are". But I agree with you 100% about comparing color and preferences.
@jumanji69 Being black is not a choice. You either are or you are not black. Being gay is a choice. Either you choose to be gay, or you choose not to be gay. It is your call.
It isan observation combined with personal experience and by applying statistical regression analysis to the probabilities involved and studying the human race, history of. I am not up for an in depth discussion of this toic right now, and I seriously doubt if you EVER would be up to one. Suffice to say, I don't care if you are gay or not, felch until you retch, dude, but don't try to convince me that anything short of being kicked in the head by a horse could cause i
Well, your poignant and eloquent remarks are almost enough to convince me that you are a great thinker. But, strangely, the scientific consensus belies your claims.
Try a little common sense, for a change: who would choose to be vilified, discriminated against, targeted for hate crimes and even executed?
Since research consistently failed to produce any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder or abnormality, rather than a normal and healthy sexual orientation, the American Psychiatric Association removed the diagnosis of homosexuality from the DSM in 1973, stating that "homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgment, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities."
@BjoernarEricSven Sorry about your dilemma here. Don't wast your time on me. Debate this issue with someone else. My life experiences with homosexuals, although somewhat limited, is not entirely without merit, for me. Nice talking to you . Hang in there. Be positive and productive in all things.
@BjoernarEricSven I'll leave you with the last word here. Some facts for you. I had a gay brother in law who died of AIDS , dying in San Francisco. i had a childhood friend who was never gay until his horse kicked him upside the head. Another fact, proving the mental illness aspect of homosexuality, is that homosexuals expect, no demand, tolerance. Now tolerance is a word that I really like. To submit to a demand for tolerance for that which one considers to be intolerable is INSANE.
@BjoernarEricSven Don't know why I bother, but I have one more thing to say. I am Muslim. Tatar. The Grand Mufti of Tatarstan (in Russia) instructs that it is insane to expect tolerance for that which is clearly an intolerable behavior to those of the heterosexual stripe. It IS insane to expect tolerance, much less demand it. Demand tolerance from the Mufti, and he will throw you from a 4 story building. Homosexuality is an abomination before God, a crime against nature. It is filthy dirty.
Well, religion doesn't define medical or psychiatric diagnoses. All the major health and mental health organisations concur that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. That mufti is offering an irrelevant layman's opinion.
@BjoernarEricSven Not true. The de-classification of it was a political exercise not a scientific one.Homosexuality is still considered a mental disorder by most practicing psychiatric professionals and you can seek treatment for it. It cannot be done publicly because they fear that they would be targeted to the point that neither patient nor practioner could function. Make no mistake homosexuality in all its varied forms meets every criteria for a debilitating mental disorder.
Actually, the initial classification was based on cultural disdain (which is hardly a proper basis for making diagnoses). When research consistently failed to produce any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder or abnormality, it was de-listed. You can read what the APA and similar organisations state about this. They consider homosexuality normal and ex-gay treatment as ineffective and possibly harmful.
I like how Ron Paul doesn't participate in class warfare. What's good for America is good for blacks. "Thy BlackMan.com" compares Cain to Paul and chooses Paul! Google "Ron Paul & Herman Cain's Different Philosophies" by Staff
Re: Israel, Google "Are Evangelical Christians Warmongers" by Pastor Chuck Baldwin
Ron Paul re: Hispanics - great interview /watch?v=oHiKRVm7ziA
Cain said "I don't know much about foreign policy, but I can learn."
We need a TEACHER, not a student! Ron Paul, President 2012
this is why i fucking hate gay people. if you want to be gay at least admit its your own choice.
XxxxExclusivexxxX 1 month ago
@XxxxExclusivexxxX, your abject ignorance compels you to demand people "admit" to something that's not true. Would you stand up and announce your inability or refusal to educate yourself in reality? Think about it.
GodCreatesGays2 1 month ago
this is in no way intended to be a racist remark, but is it not ironic that a black man is being so prejudice despite what african-americans went through not even 100 years ago?
HippieDude1414 3 months ago 2
No, it's YOUR OPINION against the KNOWLEDGE of the people who actually ARE GAY. Fucking moron.
gparks4269 3 months ago 2
If he was a true God fearing Christian, he would go to a land where he can receive the punishment of the LORD for adultery as stipulated in Deuteronomy 22-22 and Leviticus 20-10 and be put to death.....
......which would have to be a Muslim country.
Irony he haz it.
Cherry picking and Christianity go together like Elton John and homosexuality.
AziMeX 3 months ago
HE SUPPORTS ADULTERY!
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
HERMAN IS SAYING:
Being GAY in a COMMITED relationship is BAD
BUT
Being STRAIGHT in a RELATIONSHIP & HAVE MULTIPLE AFFAIRS is GOOD?
He's saying that being an ADULTER is more acceptable then a loyal Gay Couple?
By the way HE'S BISEXUAL cause bi's are the ONLY ones that can choose from one of the 2 sexes!
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago 2
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MARCH 2010 UPDATE: "GAY" GENE FOUND!
Here's a video you should watch on you tube:
The 'Gay Brain' Explained - Louann Brizendine
Also just google:
GAY BRAIN
And you're going to see all the recent discovery that gay man's brain is like a females and lesbians brains are like males.
Scientifictly proven, that is NOT A CHOICE OR A SIN, you are who you are since the night your parents... well... you know... and here we are!
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
wow,what a twat.britain lacks behind america in so many ways but we are streaks ahead in understanding homosexuals and not letting religion govern politics.
pookster78 3 months ago
If being gay is a choice, then wouldn't that mean every gay person used to be straight?
TheLoserKingdom 3 months ago
And if you think something like pedophilia is disgusting, then you should rethink your argument.
You can't say being gay is not a choice without agreeing that pedophilia is not a choice. In my opinion, it's still just a choice, but using your logic, I'd have to conclude it's just another mental disorder.
Some people out there may actually say that pedophilia isn't a choice, which if you agree with that, then I will actually respond to your arguments, since they wouldn't be so contradictory.
khoraski 3 months ago
@khoraski PEDOPHILIA IS DISGUSTIN, A GROWN MAN RAPIN A LIL CHILD, EWW, AND A CHILD CANNOT CONSENT. THAT BECOMES EVERYONE BUSINESS CUS NOBODY WANTS THEY CHILD MESS WIT. IF I HAD CHILDREN, AND A GROWN MUFUCKA MESS WIT MY CHILD, I WOULD BE IN JAIL. WHAT KINDA GROWN PERSON IS ATTRACTED TO CHILDREN YOU CANT DO SHYT FOR YOU THEM IN A RELATIONSHIP. HOMOSEXUALITY IS WIT TWO CONSENSUAL GROWN AND YOUNG ADULTS, GROWN TEENS NOT HURTIN ANYONE, AND IF YALL DONT LIKE IT DONT LOOK EASY AS 1-2-3
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
@UMANEDAKIDD19 FAGGOTRY IS DISGUSTIN, A GROWN MAN RAPIN A MAN, EWW, AND A MAN CANNOT CONSENT (lolwut). THAT BECOMES EVERYONE BUSINESS CUS NOBODY WANTS THEY MAN MESS WIT.
ya, your argument makes no sense and goes both ways, and is extremely opinionated and prejudice
khoraski 3 months ago
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@khoraski A GROWN MAN CAN CONSENT, HE KNOWS WHAT HE IS DOIN SO ITS NOT RAPE, HELL ARE YOU TALMBOUT. A CHILD DOES NOT KNOW WHAT HE OR SHE IS DOIN. YOU SOUND STUPID ASS FUCK. IF YOU DONT LIKE IT DONT LOOK. THERRE NOT MESSIN WIT NO ONES MAN, THEY HAVE THERRE OWN MAN. AGAIN IF YOU DONT LIKE TWO MEN OR TWO WOMEN, THEN DONT LOOK EASY AS 1-2-3. IM STRAIGHT AND I HAVE PROBLEM WIT IT, IM NOT GOIN TO LOOK IMA KEEP ON BOUT MY BUSINESS. BUT WHEN IT INVOLVES GROWN PEOPLE AND CHILDREN, THATS A DIFFERENT STORY
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
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@khoraski STOP BLAMIN EVERYTHING ON HOMOSEXUALITY. ONLY WHEN THE PEDOPHILE ACTS ON IT, IT IS A CHOICE, BUT NOT THE ATTRACTION TO A CHILD, WHICH IS STILL SICK, CUS WHAT CAN A CHILD TO EMOTIONALLY AND NATURALLY FOR A GROWN PERSON, EWW, I WOULD BE IN JAIL IF SOMEONE MESS WIT MY CHILD. WHEN YOU SAY HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE YOU TALMBOUT HOMOSEXUAL ACT, SO YOU SAYIN THAT ALL GAYS SHOULD BE IN THE CLOSET FOREVER AND BE WIT OTHERS OF THE OPPOSITE SEX AND BE SAD, BE MISERABLE? THATS WHAT YOU SAYIN.
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
if this guy is elected pesident, humanity is fucked.
samuriguy909 3 months ago
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:3 Herman Cain 2012 . <33
TheSouthernGenevieve 3 months ago
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TheSouthernGenevieve 3 months ago
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I NEVER KNEW WHO HERMAN CAIN WAS, NOW SINCE I KNOW, I GOTTA SAY, THIS NIGGA IS ONE STUPID ASS NIGGA, ITS FUNNY HOW STUPID HE IS LMFAO.
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
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THIS IS HERMAN CAIN? AS A STRAIGHT PERSON I KNOW ITS NOT A CHOICE, THE HELL IS HE TALMBOUT? SO IF HE SAYS ITS A CHOICE, SO HE CHOSE TO BE STRAIGHT, SO THERREFORE HES BI-SEXUAL. HES SAYIN HOMOSEXUAL ACT IS A CHOICE, AND HE WANTS GAYS TO BE IN THE CLOSET FOREVER AND DATE HETERO AND BE MISERABLE AND DISCONTENTED. IM BLACK, 20. HES A MORON. HES A HOMOPHOBE, JUS ADMIT IT AND STOP USIN THE "ITS A CHOICE" AS A COVER UP, THEY USE THAT SHYT AS AN EXCUSE TO BASH GAYS EVEN MORE
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
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IM VOTING OBAMA AGAIN!
He lifted DADT LAW & is FIGHTING FOR GAY MARRIAGE!
We're getting close to freedom MY GAY PEOPLE, let's try to KEEP the one that's FIGHTING FOR US - OBAMA!
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
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BLACK - YOUR PEOPLE ASKED FOR THE SAME RIGHTS AS WHITES AND TO BE FREE and here you are talking about TAKING AWAY GAY PEOPLES RIGHTS AND FREEDOM AND BEING PROUD TO BE WHO THEY ARE, JUST LIKE YOUR PROUD TO BE BLACK?
SHAME ON YOU!!
(I'm not offending any black person, this is just my personal message to Herman - the one who betraydes freedom and same rights for some other human beings, but I bet he's enjoying his other wise he wouldn't be running for president, but serving some white family).
NuLaifMusic 3 months ago
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Politics, not racism, likely motivates attacks on Cain. A black conservative like Clarence Thomas or Cain is more dangerous to Dems than an equally prominent white one. Dems count on the 90% black vote on election day. A black conservative offering an alternative view is a serious danger politically: if it reduces the black vote for Dems just to 75%, Dems lose. Thus, merely defeating Cain isn't enough. He must be destroyed as an influence in the future: character assassination is the means.
RoboSlater 3 months ago
I'm pretty sure putting one's penis into the anus of another man is a choice.
RoboSlater 3 months ago
this negro that only likes white women should be put to prison
illmatador2 3 months ago
Well I was for Michelle Bachman until she was against gay merriage, then I went to Rick Perry until his family was racist, then I was for Herman Cain until this... Forget it!
MITT ROMNEY FOR PRESIDENT!
KhidFresh 4 months ago
@GrislyMcFuzzybutt There is one God, and that is God, and Mohammed is his prophet.zz
1Makyo 4 months ago
Hey MR. Cain~
I'm a Christian and I'm Gay too. I Chose to be Christian, but I did NOT choose to be Gay. Only bisexual people have a choice. God made me as I am, so it can't be a sin. It's HOW we live our lives~ choosing to be ethical, caring, loving, honest, sincere, helpful, hopeful and being a good decent person~THATS the choices I've made. So, sir, you are mistaken: Gay is NOT a choice, and I forgive you, your incorrect assumptions. May you come to know the TRUTH. Blessed Be*
YosupMofo 4 months ago
hey numbnuts, there already IS science that proves being gay isnt a choice. i would think someone running for president would have a little bit of COMMON KNOWLEDGE
kell1reilly2 4 months ago
@kell1reilly2 Get the facts before you open your flap.
There's no science, you're just another butthurt gay.
THIS is why I dislike gays. They can't just be fucking normal! They are all butthurt and treat it like it makes them special that they were "born this way." What is wrong with you people, are you just so insecure about your choice you have to argue it and say stupid things? Can't you just be PROUD of your choice?
khoraski 3 months ago
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@khoraski SEE YOU JUS PROVED IT YOURSELF, THAT WHEN YOU SAY ITS A CHOICE, YOU WANT ALL GAYS TO BE IN THE CLOSET FOREVER AND NOT BE WHO THEY TRUE ARE, LIVE A LIE TO PLEASE YOU HOMOPHOBES AND BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX, SO THEY CAN BE SAD, MISERABLE. YOU DONT CARE BOUT THEY FEELINGS BUT YO OWN HOMOPHOBIC HATRED FEELINGS. HOW CAN YOU HOMOPHOBES HAVE SO MUCH HATE, AND I HATE WHEN YALL USE THAT "ITS A CHOICE" AS A COVER UP TO HIDE YALL HOMOPHOBIA, GIVIN YALL MORE REASONS TO HATE ON THEM SMH
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
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@khoraski FACT IS = HOMO MEANS SAME AND HOMO WILL ALWAYS STAY THE SAME, SO THEY WILL ALWAYS STAY ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX, BUT SINCE PEOPLE LIKE YALL WANT THEM TO NOT FEEL HAPPY, THEY HAVE TO HIDE WHO THEY TRULY ARE TO PLEASE YALL BY BEIN WIT THE OPPOSITE SEX, WHICH THEY KNOW THEY DONT LIKE BUT THEY WANNA PLEASE YALL HOMOPHOBES SO YALL CAN BE HAPPY, FUCK YALL HOMOPHOBES FEELINGS, IF THEY WANNA BE GAY, LET THEM BE GAY AND BE HAPPY, STOP WORRYIN BOUT THEM AND WORRY BOUT YALL DAMN SELVES
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
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@khoraski A PROUD CHOICE? THE FUCK? SEE MORE REASONS FOR YOU TO BE HOMOPHOBIC AGAINST THEM SMH. BORN GAY OR LESBIANS MEANS THATS HOW THEY'VE BEEN SINCE THEY WERRE 5 OR SO. THEY'VE NEVER BEEN ATTRACTED TO THE OPPOSITE SEX. NOBODY IS LITERALLY BORN WIT A SEXUALITY, YOUR SEXUALITY COMES NATURALLY TO YOU LIKE AT 5 OR SO OR AS YOU GET OLDER, MINE CAME AT 5 WHEN LIL GIRLS IN MY CLASS GOT ME AROUSED, I AINT KNOW WHAT WAS GOIN ON BUT I LIKED IT. YOU DONT CHOOSE YOUR ATTRACTION, YOU CHOOSE TO ACT ON IT
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
@khoraski jesus christ pal, u dont even know me & u insult me. thanks.
im proud of being gay. but im telling u i DIDNT choose to be gay. and theres plenty of science to back it up. the american psychological association, the american psychiatric association, the american academy of pediatrics, the american psychoanalytic association, the american medical association & the national association of social workers have all determined that its NOT a choice & that it cant be changed. research it
kell1reilly2 3 months ago
@kell1reilly2 There's no science to back it up, EVERYONE says that.
It's obvious you're ashamed of yourself and feel you must make an excuse.
My point is not that it's bad to be gay, but don't act like you have to make excuses for it.
khoraski 3 months ago
@khoraski I'm sure the entire LGBT community just feels so ashamed that they all have to make excuses, then, right? Coincidentally, the same excuse. Come on, man. That's just illogical, and you know it. You absolutely know that it's statistically improbable that the entire gay community has fallen back on the same 'excuse' of, "It's not a choice," to defend their sexuality.
ArizonaByThe27 1 month ago
@khoraski Also, hat about pride? Gay pride activists? If being gay was truly a choice, then wouldn't gay pride activists be saying, "I'm proud I CHOSE to be gay," rather than that they were simply born that way? You know as well as I do that the entire community isn't "shamed" to the point of all using the same "excuse" for their sexuality. Troll harder, bro.
ArizonaByThe27 1 month ago
The Human Rights Campaign has a petition to Herman Cain that infoms him that being gay is not a choice. In order to sign it and let Cain know that you are opposed to his inaccurate statement, all you have to do is google "Human Rights Campaign: Tell Herman Cain: Being Gay is Not A Choice." The link will lead you to the petition.
RCSVirginia 4 months ago
i think he is probably the stupidest of all the contenders (obviously bachmann is excluded), what do you reckon?
PlanetBongoSan 4 months ago
I wonder when Cain sat down and decided to be heterosexual. Perhaps he even madea list of pros and cons. Sorry buddy but if you had to make a deliberate choice to be straight then you're gay. If you didn't have to make a choice then it clearly isn't a choice.
flyingmopdog 4 months ago
@flyingmopdog I chose to be straight. My choice.
khoraski 3 months ago
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@khoraski NO REAL STRAIGHT PERSON QUESTIONS THEY SEXUALITY, YOU'RE BI-SEXUAL. BI-SEXUALS ARE ATTRACTED TO BOTH SEX AND CHOOSE TO BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX OR OPPOSITE SEX. SO YOU COULDVE CHOSEN TO BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE SAME SEX BUT YOU CHOSE TO BE WIT SOMEONE OF THE OPPOSITE SEX, SEE WHERRE IM GOIN WIT THIS? EXACTLY, BI-SEXUAL. IM STRAIGHT AND NOT ONCE HAVE I EVER BEEN ATTRACTED TO GUYS MY 20 YEARS OF LIVIN, NOTHIN WRONG WIT BEIN GAY, LESBIAN, BI-SEXUAL, BUT IM ONLY ATTRACTED TO WOMEN
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
What a loser. I mean. Seriously.
iziksquirel 4 months ago
Being gay is as much of a choice as being black is a choice. Would Cain agree to turn white, to appease anti-black bigots? How sad that the prejudiced are all so STOOPID.
GodCreatesGays2 4 months ago 18
@GodCreatesGays2 ... You can't be born with a sexual preference. You sound so butthurt. Seems like you decided to be gay because you preferred it, but some person insulted you and you got all butthurt and created this YouTube account and went around bashing people and being stupid.
And comparing it to blacks? Seriously?!
Grow up.
khoraski 3 months ago
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@khoraski NO ONE IS "LITERALLY" BORN WIT THEY SEXUALITY CUS WE DONT KNOW WHAT THAT IS WHEN WE HOP OUT THE PUSSY, SEXUALITY COMES NATURALLY WHEN YOU'RE YOUNGER OR AS YOU GET OLDER, FOR ME, IT WAS WHEN I WAS YOUNGER, I WAS 5 AND IN MY CLASS LIL GIRLS TURNED ME ON, MY DICK WAS GETTIN HARD AND I DIDNT KNOW WHAT WAS GOIN ON BUT I LIKED IT. BORN GAY OR LESBIAN MEANS THATS HOW THEY'VE ALWAYS BEEN SINCE THEY WERRE LIL UP TIL NOW, NO CHANGIN THAT, THEY CANT HELP WHO THEY LOVE.
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
@khoraski IM 20 BLACK AND STRAIGHT. I WAS NEVER ROUND DURIN THE SLAVERY DAYS, BUT WHAT I FIND HYPOCRITICAL IS, THOSE SAME BLACKS WHO WERRE FIGHTIN FOR THERRE RIGHTS TO BE ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY ARE THE SAME ONES NOT SUPPORTIN GAYS WHO ARE FIGHTIN FOR THERRE RIGHTS TO BE ACCEPTED BY SOCIETY. YES THE DISCRIMINATION WAS DIFFERENT, YES YOU CANT HIDE THAT YOU'RE BLACK, BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY DISCRIMINATION IS DISCRIMINATION. SO BLACKS OF ALL PEOPLE SHOULD KNOW HOW IT FEELS TO BE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
@khoraski sobs, "You can't be born with a sexual preference"
You don't understand human sexuality or the human condition. I'd try to educate you, but clearly, you deem reality to be your enemy.
"Seems like you decided to be gay because you preferred it"
As expected, you're falling into the idiot's trap of assuming I must be "gay" simply because I'm better educated, more rational, and more enlightened than you are.
You homophobes are always hysterical. I love watching your IQs plummet. :)
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 I could say that back.
I love watching your IQ plummet. :)
You can't be born with a sexual preference, fact.
And what was that? It's like you keep on praising yourself to enlighten your ego? xD
Wow, just like convincing yourself that being gay is a choice. You are SO ashamed of yourself, you have to convince yourself something that makes you feel better.
And I love how you insult me, and call me a homophobe, when clearly I have stated I am not.
Grow up.
khoraski 3 months ago
@khoraski whimpers, "I could say that back. I love watching your IQ plummet"
You could try. But you'd have to strain your neck to look upwards, whereas I just have to glance down. :)
"You can't be born with a sexual preference, fact"
Reality contradicts you, but you are free to exist within your own alternate realm.
"You are SO ashamed of yourself, you have to convince yourself something that makes you feel better."
How...curious that you think being intelligent would make one "ashamed".
GodCreatesGays2 3 months ago
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@GodCreatesGays2
Reality contradicts you, but you are free to exist within your own alternate realm.
And I love how all you do is call yourself intelligent and how everything is insulting how smart you are! xD
This just proves my point about how you are so ashamed of yourself, you have to find ways to make yourself feel better.
khoraski 3 months ago
@GodCreatesGays2 Show me one ex-black. There are plenty of ex-queers. You are the epitome of stupid.
sensibleadult 1 month ago
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@sensibleadult sobs, "Show me one ex-black."
Michael Jackson.
(Pwned!)
"There are plenty of ex-queers."
Sorry, but you are still very queer.
"You are the epitome of stupid."
Yo' mama, LOL.
Sadly, you have no idea how jaw-droppingly stupid you are. But it's fun to watch your IQ plummet. :)
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xSaniityCommunity 4 months ago
@xSaniityCommunity
So....any gay man could fall for the right girl but a straight man could "like some things that could be considered gay?" Like...what, musicals? Fashion? Another insert-stereotype-here? The equivalent of that statement would have been "any straight man could fall for the right guy." In which case, nobody would be one way or the other. :/ It's very interesting that you didn't say that if that was the point you wanted to make.
Stellana 4 months ago
@Stellana no u know what i mean, it works same for both ways.
xSaniityCommunity 4 months ago
@xSaniityCommunity nah, sorry
drewskopf 4 months ago
@MPHansen83 Throwing the word ignorance around is a sign you don't have an argument. I could be gay if I wanted to because my mind is not clouded with religious or cultural programming. It is free. i choose to be straight because I want children right now. Maybe in the future I'll look for a guy after my kids are grown.
Luigi84289 4 months ago
@Luigi84289 Why would anyone choose a way of life that leaves you open to being assaulted, persecuted, and murdered?
BoredomCorner 4 months ago
@BoredomCorner You are projecting an insane fringes mentality onto the whole of society. Most people don't care about what other people do with their lives as long as you don't throw it in their face. Part of growing up is doing what you want regardless of what other people may think of you.
Luigi84289 4 months ago
@Luigi84289 That's what you're doing, smart one.
khoraski 3 months ago
Alcoholics, pedophiles,schizophenics,bi-polars, folks with ADD, etc, there are all sorts of people born with tendencies, mental disorders, and urges of various types. They don't have a choise to be born with or without those tendenacies, they do have a choise in how they deal with them and how they live their lives. People with all those tendencies listed above live all around us but most have learned to channel and control their issues.
oldschoolgreentube 4 months ago
@oldschoolgreentube Except for one thing: being gay isn't an illness.
BoredomCorner 4 months ago
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@oldschoolgreentube WHY YOU COMPARIN THEM TO HOMOSEXUALITY, ITS REALLY IRRELEVANT TO DO THAT. PEDOPHILIA, A GROWN PERSON BEIN ATTRACTED TO KIDS? THE FUCK? WHAT CAN A KID DO FOR A GROWN PERSON IN A RELATIONSHIP THEN WHEN THEY ACT ON IT, ITS RAPE CUS A CHILD CANNOT CONSENT, AND THAT HURTS THE CHILD AND BECOMES EVERYONE BUSINESS CUS NOBODY WANTS THEY CHILD MESSED WIT. WHILE HOMOSEXUALITY IS TWO CONSENTIN GROWN AND YOUNG ADULTS, GROWN TEENS, MINDIN THEY BUSINESS, SO HOW DOES THAT HURT OTHERS?
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
when blacks were lynched in the south(and they still are in some places)they could not turn white to stop the hanging !,you can repent and quit being a sissy and bulldagger in seconds,black is forever,gay is not!
godschild928 4 months ago
@godschild928 God doesn't hate gays, why do you?
BoredomCorner 4 months ago
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@godschild928 IM STRAIGHT, BLACK, AND 20. YES BLACKS WERRE BUT GAYS ARE BEIN KILLED FOR WHO THEY ARE AND SOMETHIN THEY CANT CONTROL. HOMOSEXUALITY IS FOREVER. IF YOU HENCE THE WORD [HOMO] WHICH IT ALWAYS STAY THE SAME AND NEVER CHANGES, IF YOU WENT TO SCHOOL YOU WOULD KNOW THAT. IF A HOMOSEXUAL SO CALL TURNS THEN THEY WERRE NEVER HOMOSEXUAL TO BEGIN WIT. CUS HOMOSEXUALS DONT CHANGE THEY ALWAYS GONE BE ATTRACTED TO THE SAME SEX AND SAME SEX ONLY. SO UH YEAH, STFU.
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
FUCK YOU HERMAN CAIN.
KaKoonKrash 4 months ago
Shut up whoopie . Ya dike
sgtmack83 4 months ago
oh my gosh you can tell that he totally knows he has no basis whatsoever for his argument. I've no clue who this guy is, but i gather he's a politician? He looks like a very weak one to me.
ajs777 4 months ago
Being gay is a choice.
sgal88 4 months ago
@sgal88 Gays should readily admit it was a choice they made, and it makes them deliriously happy at all times
They shout from the rooftops how great it is and they should also shout it is the best thing that ever happened to them. They should take full credit and admit it was a choice.
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo You know what I find interesting by these liberal persons. That it is okay to be gay or even to change one sex because they "feel" to be trapped in the wrong body but then they harrase and are wrathful against those homosexuals who want to change their feelings or refuse to acknolwedge their feelings and call it evil because God has said it is.
sgal88 4 months ago
@ih8faggots10000 So what do you think about millions of men around the world jacking off to lesbian porn. Is that sick or is it just 2 men that you have a problem with? Honestly you are a twisted cunt but ignorance has always been the cornerstone of American society I suppose.
CapitalBhoy78 4 months ago
Being gay is not a choice at all. Honestly how can a black man, who's own race has experienced such discrimination, be anti gay, anti muslim, anti free choice when it comes to the woman deciding to have an abortion EVEN WHEN RESULT OF RAPE? He is a total bigot, altho 99% of republican politicians are. Fuck Cain!
CapitalBhoy78 4 months ago
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@CapitalBhoy78 IM STRAIGHT, BLACK, AND 20. AND CO-SIGN WIT EVERYTHING YOU SAID, IVE BEEN SAYIN THE SAME THING.
UMANEDAKIDD19 3 months ago
Nothing in the Constitution about being gay, or abortions or marriage at all. The man is fucking delusional. Wants no government regulation of Big Faceless Corporations but wants to regulate the hell out of people private, personal lives. What a fucking douche bag.
keywestWTF 4 months ago
@ih8faggots10000
Nature is replete with examples of same-sex intercourse. But you aren't interested in facts, just your preconceived notions. Ignorance actually is a choice.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@ih8faggots10000
The current consensus among scholars is that sexual orientation is NOT a choice. Research suggests that homosexuality is caused by a combination of genetic, hormonal, and environmental influences, with biological factors involving a complex interplay of genetic factors and the early uterine environment.
Why don't you just educate yourself and read what, for example, the APA and the Royal College of Psychiatrists have to say in this matter before writing any more nonsense?
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@ih8faggots10000
Oh, don't burden yourself with the facts. Never mind that scientific consensus belies your claim.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@ih8faggots10000
So, when did you choose to be straight?
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
Is being black a choice. After all... some blacks choose not to be... and some non-blacks try hard to be. And how about being a member of the Illuminati and the FED... a choice? Or choosing a president... another choice? Whatever happened to freedom of choice? Sounds to me like THAT's what Cain is against.
Tryn2bkind 4 months ago
what a blow hard.
RonPaulTRUTH 4 months ago
@suportable I didn't choose to be attracted to other men. Did you choose to be attracted to the opposite or same sex? I don't think so!
vidhead85 4 months ago
@vidhead85 You can chose to ignore it. Just like a mans urge to masterbate or rape or steal or get tatoo's or whatever. I find it sad that so many people case the entirity of there being on dealing with there sexual repression by evolving it into somthing completly assinine in anything but a rogue philisophical chess game of opinions.
ashkaji 4 months ago
@ashkaji
Comparing sexual orientation to rape or stealing is absolutely moronic.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@ashkaji BjornarERicSven, you are completely right on that. Second, choose to ignore being attracted to the opposite sex and let's see how well that does for you. i can choose to ignore it, in fact I have. It was torture! When you've successfully ignored your attractions to the opposite sex call me up and tell me how you did it. I bet I'll never get a call or msg from you about that! NEXT!
vidhead85 4 months ago
@ashkaji Besides, our self awareness would never let us get away from the realization that we are gay. So being gay can't be a choice
vidhead85 4 months ago
He wants scientific evidence. But I also want scientific evidence from him to prove to me that being gay IS a choice. He has none! Like he said, it's his OPINION. And his opinion shows that he is a another complete and utter ignorant homophobe that is involved in politics.
JMDiscoRemixes 4 months ago
@JMDiscoRemixes A scientist has actually started the research a few years ago, but won't have any real data for a report until years from now. I heard him interview on a radio show, I don't remember the guys name. Who knows how many other scientists are on it now. I'm actually interested to see the results; I feel confident it will support the fact that we are with who we are with because of biological influences.
icky8vicky 4 months ago
So, white supremacism is just "a difference of opinion", too?
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago 3
@BjoernarEricSven
So some folks are simply genetically predisposed to take other men's penis's up their butt?
limatime1985 4 months ago
@limatime1985
Gays aren't any more genetically predisposed to anal sex than women are. You seem to confuse sex practices with sexual orientation.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
FUCK THESE DISGUSTING LIBERAL PUNDITS TRYING TO BELITTLE THIS MAN BECAUSE HE IS A BLACK CONSERVATIVE. ITS FUCKING SO RACIST AND SICK WHAT THEY ARE DOING TO THIS BLACK AMERICAN MAN.
adamk4747 4 months ago
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@adamk4747 I want to see his birth certificate
dan11009 4 months ago
@ih8faggots10000 I agree
SgtToast1 4 months ago
This is the best black guy I've ever heard.
Luigi84289 4 months ago
That is just a difference in REALITY, not opinion. The constitution of the United States compared to what? Obama was a constitutional lawyer and this clown was CEO of Godfather's pizza. Not really much political experience.
azmildman 5 months ago
Dumber than a bag of hair. He is like most Republicans, he is convinced that he has all the answers but actually because the Koch brothers paid him millions of dollars to be their candidate and promote tax cuts for the rich.
azmildman 5 months ago
@platipilot yeahh so where's you evidence? i'm actually gay and i am telling you right now, IT WAS NOT A CHOICE. how would you know what it's like if you're not gay yourself? thats just your own little opinion that NOBODY cares about because it is WRONG and you are holding back society with your selfish ignorant ways. so shutup. :)
gusrox1223 5 months ago
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You NEVER chose to be gay?
This is NOT because you like to be bullied, harrassed, villified, be the but of every joke,and be denied civil rights!
No!
You chose to be gay because you like anal sex and this desire is much stronger for you than fear of being bullied, harrassed, villified.
Besides your genetic makeup is defective, so you had predesposition to choose being gay. Which is really not your fault.
Sorry for you.
platipot 5 months ago
Herman Cain is a loud-mouthed fool full of ignorant certitudes about things he doesn't understand. In short, a bigot. Bigots are always clear headed about what they believe, and they never stop for a moment to consider if their beliefs have any foundation at all. They are nothing but confident certainty. They listen to nobody but themselves. We've had so many self-confident fools in the Oval office lately. Do we need another one?
jimtrueblue99 5 months ago
wow I NEVER chose to be gay, why would I chose to be bullied, harrassed, villified, be the but of every joke,and be denied civil rights? I tried so hard to be straight and prayed so hard that I would be some day. I tried dating and sex with girls, believe me I wanted to be striaght. I can't be straight! I'm through trying, becuase It will never work I'm gonna live my life the way I am supposed to, as a gay man. People like Herman Cain are sick! I want to know when he chose to be straight!
sral187 5 months ago
@sral187 Why would a smoker chose to have lung cancer? Or People who like percings and tatoos they chose to have a hard time finding a bluecollar job. Its a stupid argument and a cop-out. You chose to like men (or women if you are a girl) This is fact. This does not mean you are any less human, or any less deserving of the same individual rights as every other person in the united states. You're choices should not change the constitutional laws of the land, and I support all gays int hat fight.
ashkaji 4 months ago
@ashkaji if it is a choice, choose to be gay, just do it one day, becuase everybody chooses thier sexual orientation right?!?!?!? Just wake up and say, "I'm gonna be gay today," and see how it goes. You won't be able to do it, I know it! I have many times woken up and did try to chose to be straight, and it just didn't work. You know why it didn't work BECAUSE ITS NOT A CHOICE!!!! Im glad that you support gay rights, but your wrong about this choice If I could choose to be straight I would
sral187 4 months ago
You can easily. Me personally, I dont find men or women all that attractive. Blobs of flesh hair and fluid. I can marry though, and will find someone based on personality instead of tissue stimulation and fluid exchange. I guess that would be the crux of my argument. Just because you find one thing or another more sexually arousing does not mean it should run your life, or mandate some kind of unavoidable choice that will effect your entire life. There are plenty of people who make this mistake.
ashkaji 4 months ago
@ashkaji You could marry Pat.
oldschoolgreentube 4 months ago
@ashkaji
It's not a fact simply because you say so. Just cite me ONE legitimate health care or mental health care organisation stating that sexual orientation is a choice.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
Science overwhelmingly says it is NOT a choice. He doesn't know that, because he does NOT want to know that.
More bluntly, when it comes to men, NO MAN decides what will make his dick hard.
Women though can just lay there and endure sex, which makes realizing you are a lesbian much harder especially since many women are still brought up to believe sex is disgusting. The thought that they hate it, because they are lesbian can be slow in coming.
MisterJohnMorales 5 months ago
Homosexuality is a behaviour no doubt and I hope Cain wins. We've seen enough of this gay sicko crap to the point where two psycho, evil lesbian women had the audacity to "change" a boy into a little girl in California. The boy's name was Thomas now it's "Tammy". Perverts.
MrThebatman84 5 months ago
@MrThebatman84 Tammy has said that she was a girl from the time she knew what the signs were. Her gender identity has NOTHING to do with her parents sexual orientation. You lose!
vidhead85 4 months ago
@MrThebatman84
So, heterosexuality is a behaviour?
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
Let's talk about killing babies...
Who among us thinks that is the right choice?
btrask3 5 months ago
What's constitutional about taking away rights?
madest 5 months ago
Homosexuals are nasty.
OmgLPSYay 5 months ago
um.... your born being attracted to men. theres no choice in that. same thing with being straight. you can't just wake up and go " I decided I'm attracted to men now :D" it doesent work that way. sooo fucking ignorant...
barnicleboy22 5 months ago
Just keep toss'n crappy pizza, that's all you are good at.
SpigaloProductions 5 months ago
I have never met or even heard a legit scientist say that being gay is a choice. there is your proof right there.
cornbreadjtm 5 months ago
I don't even know where to begin, so I'll simply say that this guy is a ignorant moron.
finalfantasy8VIII 5 months ago
So, being heterossexual is a choice too!!! I had no chance to choice.
leogcosta 5 months ago
Is it weird to anybody else that a rich, white woman is lecturing a black man born in 1940's Georgia on how painful prejudice is?
MrCletusJr 5 months ago
It's funny how people can single out gay men!! Lesbians are the same thing as gay men there's not difference!! Homosexuality is homosexuality
Addictionbemine 5 months ago
Comparing color to sexual preference is like comparing oranges to apples. If you make that comparison, then you have to say people are born with the tendancy to abuse alcohol, murder, rape, do drugs, molestation, and have relationships with both the male and female species. Behavior is always a choice. Even a so-called "heterosexual" can easily become a bi-sexual or a homosexual if they so desire based on either external influence, childhood incidents of sexual abuse, etc. It's common sense.
BattleCry4Him 5 months ago
@BattleCry4Him Behavior is always a choice, but being gay is more than a behavior. I can be gay and never have sex with a man. Behavior is more like "what you do" and be gay is more "who you are". But I agree with you 100% about comparing color and preferences.
leogcosta 5 months ago
@BattleCry4Him Glad to hear some common sense in these emotional tempertantrum arguments. Ty for clarifying I am not alone in the world lol.
ashkaji 4 months ago
This guy is heartless ignorant and a fucking idiot
Ozariaable 5 months ago
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rzafft 5 months ago
BEING BLACK IS A CHOICE! PROVE IT OTHERWISE
jumanji69 5 months ago 18
@jumanji69 Being black is not a choice. You either are or you are not black. Being gay is a choice. Either you choose to be gay, or you choose not to be gay. It is your call.
1Makyo 5 months ago
@1Makyo
And exactly how do you know?
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven Bioenema
It isan observation combined with personal experience and by applying statistical regression analysis to the probabilities involved and studying the human race, history of. I am not up for an in depth discussion of this toic right now, and I seriously doubt if you EVER would be up to one. Suffice to say, I don't care if you are gay or not, felch until you retch, dude, but don't try to convince me that anything short of being kicked in the head by a horse could cause i
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo
Well, your poignant and eloquent remarks are almost enough to convince me that you are a great thinker. But, strangely, the scientific consensus belies your claims.
Try a little common sense, for a change: who would choose to be vilified, discriminated against, targeted for hate crimes and even executed?
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven Dude! homosexuality IS a mental disorder.. Kwatz
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo
Since research consistently failed to produce any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder or abnormality, rather than a normal and healthy sexual orientation, the American Psychiatric Association removed the diagnosis of homosexuality from the DSM in 1973, stating that "homosexuality per se implies no impairment in judgment, stability, reliability, or general social or vocational capabilities."
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven Sorry about your dilemma here. Don't wast your time on me. Debate this issue with someone else. My life experiences with homosexuals, although somewhat limited, is not entirely without merit, for me. Nice talking to you . Hang in there. Be positive and productive in all things.
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo
That's what I thought: you aren't interested in facts, only in your preconceived notions.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven I'll leave you with the last word here. Some facts for you. I had a gay brother in law who died of AIDS , dying in San Francisco. i had a childhood friend who was never gay until his horse kicked him upside the head. Another fact, proving the mental illness aspect of homosexuality, is that homosexuals expect, no demand, tolerance. Now tolerance is a word that I really like. To submit to a demand for tolerance for that which one considers to be intolerable is INSANE.
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo
That's the most whacky "argument" I've ever heard. But it aptly demonstrates that your position is based on emotion and whim, not on reason.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven It is also important to understand that arguments based on critical thinking are not
necessarily the most persuasive. Perhaps more often than not, the most persuasive
arguments are those designed to appeal to our basic human/emotional needs rather
than to our sense of objectivity. For that reason, it is common for highly persuasive
arguments by politicians, TV evangelists, and sales people, among others, to
intentionally lack critical thinking.
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo
Basic human needs? Like the need to feel superior to certain minorities?
Don't worry, you certainly excell at lacking critical thinking.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven The decision to buy something, is ALWAYS an emotional decision.
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo
"The decision to buy something"? Are talking about shopping now?
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven Don't know why I bother, but I have one more thing to say. I am Muslim. Tatar. The Grand Mufti of Tatarstan (in Russia) instructs that it is insane to expect tolerance for that which is clearly an intolerable behavior to those of the heterosexual stripe. It IS insane to expect tolerance, much less demand it. Demand tolerance from the Mufti, and he will throw you from a 4 story building. Homosexuality is an abomination before God, a crime against nature. It is filthy dirty.
1Makyo 4 months ago
@1Makyo
Well, religion doesn't define medical or psychiatric diagnoses. All the major health and mental health organisations concur that homosexuality is not a mental disorder. That mufti is offering an irrelevant layman's opinion.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago
@BjoernarEricSven Not true. The de-classification of it was a political exercise not a scientific one.Homosexuality is still considered a mental disorder by most practicing psychiatric professionals and you can seek treatment for it. It cannot be done publicly because they fear that they would be targeted to the point that neither patient nor practioner could function. Make no mistake homosexuality in all its varied forms meets every criteria for a debilitating mental disorder.
oldschoolgreentube 4 months ago
@oldschoolgreentube
Actually, the initial classification was based on cultural disdain (which is hardly a proper basis for making diagnoses). When research consistently failed to produce any empirical or scientific basis for regarding homosexuality as a disorder or abnormality, it was de-listed. You can read what the APA and similar organisations state about this. They consider homosexuality normal and ex-gay treatment as ineffective and possibly harmful.
BjoernarEricSven 4 months ago 4
@oldschoolgreentube Cite your source, because I'm not aware of a single credible medical journal that considers homosexuality a mental disorder.
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vechorik 5 months ago
@jumanji69 You're retarded. Being black is genetic. It's physical. Show me a gay gene.
Luigi84289 4 months ago
@Luigi84289 Exactly!
SgtToast1 4 months ago
@Luigi84289 Show me that being gay is NOT!
vidhead85 4 months ago
@jumanji69 Michael Jackson, also Homosexual isnt a race, its a choice in sexual preference...
ashkaji 4 months ago
oh yeah and the earth is flat and creationism is true
gorton8andy 5 months ago
FUCK ALL GAYZ(not the girls) THERE ASSES ARE GOING TO HELL OH WAIT THERE ASSES ARE ALREADY IN HELL
pauledgard 5 months ago