1888 Debate! Righteousness By Faith

[bobblehead792001]

sir, the Seventh Day Adventist Church to this day officially holds the doctrine of Arminianism as concerning the understanding of Righteousness by Faith. Arminians such as the Methodists are also universally recognized as genuine Christians by the Christian world. This view is what is espoused by the Church today. the 1888 Message was a message of righteousness by Faith that was distinctly different than Arminianism. it was the idea that Jesus, through His atonement, had actually saved everyone.

[Bingolly1]

@bobblehead792001 Your like of knowledge about your own people is amazing. SDA leaders rejected righteousness by faith at the 1888 convention. That was what caused the schism then and to a degree now. What SDA accept is righteousness through keeping the abolished Sabbath and follow failed prophecy and bad interpretations by scholars who do not have a clue as to what the Bible teaches.

[00j5]

I know exactly what happened there and what the debate then and after was all about. Ellen White wrote that the message brought by Jones & Waggoner would never be given again by God to the Seventh Day Adventist church. The subsequent apostasy in WW1 where they rejected God's law and went to war transgressing the sixth commandment, Thou shalt not kill, can be traced back to that very point.

[00j5]

you missed the whole point of the 1888 message. Christ Our Righteousness is the gospel. Through the power of Jesus Christ we can and must have the character of Him. "Be ye perfect as my Father in Heaven is perfect."

[Bingolly1]

@00j5 You do not even know about the 1888 debate much less what happen their.

[curly8694]

In 1888 we had a revival of righteousness by faith. As the Jews did we became legalistic Jones and Waggner held meetings to point us back to "we are saved by grace through faith" We keep the commandments of God because we love Him not because the law saves us. Every church has its flaws if you are in Christ He will teach you all you need to know. Haters and bashers will not be in heaven. Study the Bible only and you will never go wrong you do not need anything but the bible and the Holy Spirit

[Bingolly1]

Do you mean haters like the SDA lying about Catholics and Protestants by calling them whores and children of whores? Your mind must not function on Tuesdays.

[curly8694]

no I mean all haters SDA,Catholics, Baptist,Pentacostals,Muslims and all who bash. God is love He has sheep all over in every church when He calls we will follow the Lamb where ever He Goes.

[Bingolly1]

So you see warning others about a religious cult gone haywire as bashing.

[curly8694]

As the mother of the 15 yr old who commented on one of your videos I would like to say a few things. I was raised in the occult. Therefore when I began to look to God and who He was, I went to many churches. It was in trying to prove an SDA wrong that God opened my eyes to the beauty of His Word. I do not need to use anything Mrs. White wrote to prove what I believe. Psalm119 Matt5:17,18 1Jhn2:4-5 those are just a few. I pray that your hardened heart will be soften or He will say Matt 7:21-23

[Bingolly1]

Just how is my heart hardened by rejecting garbage theology of the SDA? Your comments shows many the need for real pastors in the SDA.

[curly8694]

Hey i'm the 15 year old. I'm wondering if u can do me a favor. Forget SDA, forget E.G.White, & forget everything u have said about us. Please just open your Bible, ask God for a clear & open mind & just read. Don't ask pastors or friends about wut u should read, just read. when my dad took that challenge all he could feel was anger because he felt like he had been lied too all his life. My recomendation for the Bible is a KJV or NKJV there the closest u can get to the original translation.

[FLEEPIGSFLEE]

wHAT HapPend in 1988? that is what I want to know

[FormerSDAReformed]

You have dealt with the SDA on youtube long enough to know that the word "truth" does not ring a bell with them. The 1888 Debate has been so lied about and covered up by the White Estate and the General Conference that it is a wonder anyone can big through the fraud and make sense of it. 5/5