Only Wide receivers runningbacks and some fullbacks could handle Rugby. Some not all. the endurance factor is the biggest one, and mentally playing without pads. Both sports are awesome to watch, but the pauses in football bored me. It takes balls to step into a field ready to take 40 hits a game without pads.
@NFLization I see your point, but that's only in small bursts. The timeout factor, the changing from defense to offense, where rugby is constantly running, to get into position and you play defense and offense, no timeouts, no tv timeout. Up downs all day, bigger size field to cover, 80 minutes of endurance. Football players are much faster, that's a given, but fitness wise, rugby hands down takes the prize.
Pointing out the field is wider is to reference the greater fitness Lomu would have over AF players. It's still 15 on 15, that extra four guys kind of works out to be about the same as AF size of field to size of players on the field. If you're talking in comparison to Lomu and let's say Peppers as athletes, on Par, but if you're saying that AF players can switch codes and do what Lomu achieved, I highly doubt it. If I misread and misunderstood your points, then that's my mistake. Sure our gre
@Julokaibre Now..If you are asking about specific AF athletes that are comparable or better than lomu, there are 100's, look on any team. Here are some for you to check out:
Jimmy Graham, Julius Peppers, Mercedes Lewis, Brandon Jacobs, Mario Williams.
Those are all athletes of similar or greater size than Lomu, other, smaller players such as Vernon Davis, Calvin Johnson, Patrick peterson, and many, many others, are often Far greater athletes than Lomu.
Bebomac5, who exactly in NCAA and NFL can do what Jonah did in Rugby? Let's see, no blocking, 40 minute halves with no time outs. Jonah is both Offense and Defense, punt
@Julokaibre Despite the fact that all AF players have played both sides at some point, and are perfectly capable, the sport doesn't call for those skills. However, thanks for pointing out that Lomu could not properly block, nor could he catch a 65 mph forward pass, or wedge bust, or use his vertical leap to block or catch a pass, or shed blockers, or throw a spiral pass, or edge rush, or read defensive coverages. You know why?.. Because his sport doesn't require those skills.
@Julokaibre Except in football, if you want to remain a start, EVERY PLAY everybody on the field needs to sprint to their potential and work to their max. Even linemen, don't matter if the ball carrier is 50 yards down the field. I credit Jonah cause he's a beast but rugby players work at their max when they have the ball only.
you are probably one of those stats boys, the ones who cannot play the sport they are so enthusiastic about even if their life depended on it. YOU SHOULD ASPIRE TO OBLITERATE THAT FOUL SMELLING ODOUR THAT EMINATES FROM YOUR BUCCAL CAVITY PUNK. I'm From Trinidad and Tobago Bitch, we play Rugby, not this fucking sissy Americanized adaptation of the most wonderful and manly sport. We in the Caribbean Don't have the Liberty of playing on the fucking pussy oriented artificial turf, we play rough!
@smartysmurf If you wish to comment to me, don't be a "worthless Coward!", address me directly!
Actually, I was a 2.5 year starter at the div. 1AA level, sometimes against top 1A schools, such as Clemson, Viginia Tech, and Florida State. I finished with 2 unsuccessful NFL tryouts :( I new I had No chance, but was proud to have had the opportunity. Fyi, less than 8% of AF fields are artificial, and I can tell you, there's nothing "pu**y" about it! It's rougher and harder than grass.
I love how ppl who have never withstood hits in AF equipt, think they know what it's like.
Despite incredible conditioning, and equipt, AF players suffer as many or more injuries, except when it comes to catastrophic injuries and deaths, which are much higher in AF.
All AF players have taken massive hits without equipment, it's how we know equipped hits are worse.
Also, how do you think it feels when AF equipt crashes into exposed stomachs, knees, elbows, ribs, etc?
@timbob090 and one thing you didn't factor in is that Quinten Jammer is NOT one of the best there is. Not even at his position. Sure he hits hard. For a CB, who are the smallest guys on the football field. A LB or safety would have been better. You obviously dont know football like you do rugby. It's no great mystery that football players hit harder. The pads allow for more violent hits.
one thing the experiment in the show didn't factor in was it used one of the best american fooballers their is and for rugby they used some guy who looks like he wouldn't make the c team. i'd like them to try a real rugby player like manu tuilagi or sean o'brian or the beast from south africa and see how much harder the impacts are then.
People get killed playing football without helmet and pads -- 19 college players in a single year once. In 1905 the American government seriously considered banning the sport. Nothing in rugby history can compare to that. Think im lying . search it up
@mikeyadigone watch?v=mM8vR8Lc_SI, watch?v=sxB25H4yB2E, watch?v=m0LDKK7EPko&feature=related, watch?v=2uDZKwkxfbg&feature=related, watch?v=89rI-IHNtJU&feature=related, watch?v=5pzAIZLPxvc&feature=related, watch?v=lXddqrJkVIM&feature=related, watch?v=-X1WVET0vOs&feature=related, watch?v=lgdN7TI5Q1I&feature=related, watch?v=J7so6iCWyNw&feature=related. You call it gay and yet dozens of highschool and college football teams around the US try (emphasis on try) to copy it.
@UHtiger Alright fair enough, you found one video of a college football team doing a "haka?" That's what it's called right? But it's also a video of the University of HAWAII, so I'm assuming they're trying to get back to their indigenous roots, or something. I can assure you though that the "haka" is NOT common in American Football.
Obviously everyones opinion here is biased, so there's no real point in arguing which sport is "tougher" or "better." Though it has been tested and scientifically proven that wearing pads and the angle of the plays in American Football generate tackles that are up to four times harder than those in rugby. That being said, I've personally played both and they're both physically demanding so, ultimately what is comes down to is which sport you like the most, that's it.
@Outlawzand1 yea coz you know youve got a bit of protection when having pads on, so you go at someone at full pace, and get up and feel like nothing happened coz protect gear took most of the grunt impact so u keep playing, but you go at someone running the ball in rugby , youll feel the full force on your body , and thats y its more brutal then AF
@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy If R fans wouldn't say such stupid things, as you did, it wouldn't be so easy to destroy your points. "get up and feel nothing"?..Really?
@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy AF collisions are 2-3 times more powerful than R hits. Almost any player can be hit at any time, from any direction, everywhere on the field. Also, keep in mind, some of the rules restricting aggression, don't exist in AF.
@bebomac5 bro ive played AF and wow that has gotta to be the sofest sport in world, I play in u 18's rugby and get hit way harder then some of the hits youve posted, lol they are like training hits! and with the money you earn over their for playing , you get treated like little princesses , whereas we just suck it up and play the next game, like a real man. pads for pussies , but thats my opinion .
@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy Hard to take you seriously, when in one of the vids I posted, a man is folded back so far, his head literally touches his ass. Whether you admit it or not, I know you have respect for the viciousness of the game, and have never seen anything like that in Rugby. It's amusing how you earlier critcized that AF players don't get hurt because of pads, to now saying they don't get up and play on ???? Btw, you're wrong on both counts...You're not good at this.
Rugby teams don't even do high impact collision training, something AF players start at 6-8 years old:
watch?v=M1fVZBMeEV0 ,
watch?v=0AvtCDZyLds .
Funny how you have nothing that even compares, and I haven't even posted any paralyzation or AF death vids. Not saying R is soft, it's brutal, but the force of impact in AF, cannot be matched.
@SubZero1703 Lomu's size, speed, strength, skill, etc. are quite common in AF. Rugby fans are always in such awe of Lomu's prowess, and while hs was quite impressive, the NCAA & NFL are packed with guys like him and better on every team.
@smartysmurf Oh look!..A poet! Is that really the best you can do? Or do you actually have something remotely intelligent to say? Come on man!..Fire up that "turd" you're using for a brain, and bless us with your thoughts...Lol!
oh and by the way there are hits far more rougher and stronger in american football than in rugby , even though they aren't that frequent ,a player taking this hit without pads would literally get killed. Plus rugby is for people who couldn't afford american football.
American football player: "Hey i know, lets try and look tough by tackling each other while wearing a motorcycle helmet, tights and enough protection to survive a nuclear bombing".
I'm almost 32 y.o., I've spent most of the last few seasons injured with a subluxed AC joint (I did it originally in 1999). I'm thinking about switching to AF cos my shoulder can't take rugby anymore...Says it all really.
If u think american football is tougher, ur a retard. Rugby is none stop, in american football, you get hit and have 40 seconds to recover, in rugby, u get hit and have to get up and keep playing and get hit over and over and over again. There is way to much protection in American Football, and yes i know its true, and in rugby there not girls and they don't wear pads. Just that last statement shows how tough rugby is compared to American Football. Plus rugby is just overall a better sport.
@homefront017 No you don't get hit over and over again in rugby. Players away from the ball are just standing around. You standa much better chance of getting hit away from the ball in AF because in AF you play the man, not the ball, and hits away from the ball are permitted.
Both are superb athletes, but ruggers simply would not be prepared for the quickness of American NFL players. NFL'ers woudl close on the ball-carrier so quickly, and break on passes out to the wings so quickly that they would overwhelm Ruggers. Plus there is no comparing the hits. Period. Y'all over-estimate how much protection plastic shoulder pads provide. The highlight Rugby hits happen 50 times a game in American football. Ribs would be broken, concussions inflicted.
@HenryHoldenator "Stop gassing..." LOL and touche. Hardest hits I ever took were in Hockey, but that is a different conversation. Ruggers don't need to feel insulted, they do have more stamina and are as tough as they come. Doesn't change the fact that even adjusted for pads NFL hits are more violent more of the time. Or that more NFL'ers are brutes like Jonah. I honestly feel guilty watching the NFL now because I know the beating their brains are taking. Literally. Helmets or no.
Also AF are faster stronger and bigger average whys.these are facts... another thing you do not have more collisions cause there is no blocking... so in prospective 11 on 11 about 120-140 plays a game 11 times 120 because there is 11 players and each is blocking another equals 1320 hit's ATLEAST a game.. that is saying if u block only one person in one play so really there will be more... so that means about every 3 .5 seconds there will have to be a tackle in rugby which doesn't happen...
@Nickkieg6 The quaterback doesnt get hit all the time, usually the only receiver that gets hit is the one with the ball, kicker rarely gets hit, only one of the running backs gets hit at a time most of the time, same could be said for defense as well.
@UHtiger Your points tend to ignore the fact that 90%+ of impacts in AF are from "blocks". Prototypical QB's will be hit 5-10 times a game (many blindsides), while mobile QB's are hit 10-20 times per game. What do you think WR's do when they not running routes? That's right, their blocking, FB's hit something on almost every play, thats what their for, HB's are tackled 20-40 times, and will usually make 15-20 blocks. LB's 30-50 hits per gm. who cares about K's, although it's more than u think.
@bebomac5 So your backing up my point that the entire 22 arnt hitting during every play. "What do you think WR's do when they not running routes?" How often do they not run routes? So are you trying to say that the only player that runs the route is the man about to receive the ball? No more often than not the others are also running decoy routes and the players marking them are following their man and also not getting into the collisions either.
@UHtiger Decoy routes? maybe you're referring to "run offs"? (5%). QB's read progressions. Passes don't often go to the primary reciever, and remember that WR's aren't the only recievers, the selection is fairly random (hit the open man). To answer you're ? "How often do they not run routes?" 25%-40% of the time, depending on the team. Most teams run the ball 35%-50% of the time, on those plays Wr's run cut blocks, hook blocks, crack backs, etc. A very minimum of 12 plyrs hit on every play.
@UHtiger Who ever said that they did??? But it happens. There are an avg of 1200 impacts in an AF game, although, I'm surprised it's not more. You, more than any other person I converse with, needs to see a top HS, college, or pro game, live and up close. Pop!...pop! pop!..pop!.....pop!..All over the field, every play. I have a feeling your tone would change within the first 30-40 seconds.
@bebomac5 The guy who i originally replied to was the one that said they did. Thats who. But as is always the case with you, you've jumped straight in without noting what has been previously said.
I'm tired of hearing we're tougher cause we play without pads. everyone has played without pads... but with head to head collisions and to many deaths helmets are needed. also you guys are more fit. false NFL players train for bursts every play is given 100% rugby you see people slacking all the way down the line just waiting... and if your so much more fit cause you can go 80 minutes i will give most fit to triathlon people even soccer players so don't go more fit cause u play longer
@Nickkieg6 They say they are fitter because they are, no-one at all is saying rugby requires more fitness than triathlons or soccer (although soccer is debatable as the added physical nature of rugby takes a different toll) what they are saying is that they are fitter than football players.
Stats show the average play time of a NFL game is 11 minutes. Split that between offence, defence and specials and thats not much play time per player. Rugby players average about 12kms per game.
Everyone just look at these clips. HOW CAN YOU NOT see the passion in these players for there sport and cause!???!? im american and i LOVE both sports. think before you make a biased answer.
Come lets get someone from NFL to take a run straight no padding which one of yas a ready to give it a shot NRL is the worlds best sport so lets run straight and take the hit up FUCK YERRR OATH
@supersaiyanMK2 Rugby is far from the 3rd most watched sport in the world. In fact, sports like Basketball, Baseball, and Volleyball are all more popular world wide. Look it up!
@gnarkillkicksass Soccer is obviously the most watched, as expected, but while the RWC is the 2nd-3rd most watched as an event, Rugby as a sport is not.
@supersaiyanMK2 You know if you didn't make such petty, childish, and hateful statements, you might actually have a chance in a debate. But instead, you continually lose arguments, then resort to insults and senseless, angry rants. Maybe if you spent less time being a homophobic racist, you might avoid repeatedly embarrassing yourself, and perpetually living under my boot! Somehow I think you lack the brain power to collect useful thoughts, and the class to stop yourself from being..well...you.
RUGBY FOR LIFE!! Fuck nfl and all the pussies that play with pads and all that shit!! come play a real mans sport, bet each and every one of you will not even last 10 minutes. screw nfl
@nzallblacksrugby8man If they don't wear pads, they will literally DIE. You are aware of that right? Rugby tackles are boring, Rugby is only fun if you're the one playing it, watching it is fucking boring. American Football is far more intense everyone on the field is up against another person whether it's a wide receiver against a cornerback or a nose tackle against a center. In rugby everyone is just dancing around, no blocking or anything. Look past your pride and open your mind, dude
@UHtiger American Football requires more tactics, and that's just the way the game is played. But does it really matter how many people watch it? Justin Bieber has more fans than most bands right now, that doesn't make him better. I guess since there aren't countries representing american football, the people outside of the US have no reason to care about it, vise-versa regarding Rugby. I still think rugby is fun to play and takes balls but in terms of entertainment, no sport beats football.
@TheElJesus Your quote "Rugby is only fun if you're the one playing it, watching it is fucking boring". Once again, how can it be boring if it has the 3rd most watched sporting event in the world. Beiber has a demographic of fans (teenage girls) who love his work. Rugby is watched around the world by all ages so very different things.
@UHtiger Rugby has a demographic too, Rugby fans, Rugby is played more than football in the world so obviously it'd have more fans. I'd like to see your reference on that, because it's bullshit. It may be watched most in Aus, or NZ and Europe but it definitely is NOT the third most watched in the world. What I said still works, just because something has more fans doesn't make it better or more entertaining.
@TheElJesus look up the Rugby World Cup on wiki, has links to sites regarding the viewership numbers. The 2007 world cup drew 4.3 billion viewers over the course of the tournament behind only the Soccer WC the summer olympics and the tour de france.
@whiteej21 sounds like an excuse to me.... die?? pleaseeee.... give me a f*#@ing break (eyes rolling). The fact is NFL players are just not fit enough. You said it yourself they couldn't possibly play an entire game. LOL
Rugby 4 Life!!.. Rugby Sevens is going to be a massive sport in the future because of it's placement in the 2016 Olympics in Rio... planning on going there...
People need to stop dissing AF or Rugby. They are both great games similar in some way and different and other. "AF players are pussies because they wear pads" people that say that have never played it. There's a reason why they where pads. If you see some of the hits on kick/punt returns and receivers over the middle literally get knocked out. Many players have to retire early because of recurring concussions.
@whiteej21 have you touched a NFL helmet? I'd call that armour, mate.
Rugby does limit contact, but at the same time rugby requires more strength and endurance. All rugby players need to be fast, strong and be able to think, and perform every job. Gridiron players are specialised in the sense one player throws, two or three catch, five block, one kicks. i mean gridiron requires some players to be fat -pathetic.
The rugby world cup is on. Does gridiron have a world cup? no, says it all really
Gridiron players play for three seconds and rest, rugby players have to be physical, have endurance and strength for forty minutes straight, and then forty minutes again.
Have you played rugby? It may not be rough but It requires more strength and endurance. Yes I realise Gridiron is rough but it is nowhere near the strength of rugby. Rugby players have to be ALL athletic, whereas some gridiron players can be fucking telly tubby fat cunts, lol .
@whiteej21 Mmm when I lived in Providence with my girlfriend there was never that kind of intensity. It is the same with club rugby, both tough competitions but nothing makes a person want to spill blood like playing while their whole country watches.
@whiteej21 I did enjoy playing rugby more though. I actually got to touch the ball once in a while. Watching a fat prop waddle down the field carrying the ball was almost as good.
@whiteej21 I think that while you can occaisionally get the perfect kill shot in rugby, you only get it once every few games. I think in football you get it every 10 plays or so.
How come to more concussions happen in football? Helmet to helmet right? To all of the sudden that "padding" excuse looks dead now. btw even if they were wearing rock hard pads, what if it collided into someone's arm, stomach, back, legs or even neck. In rugby it's basically flesh, skin, fat and a little bone that hits you.
@Areallykelwguy because the sporting body told them to. Most of the hard hits you see are the result of the pads, if they didnt wear the pads they would learn to hit properly.
@Areallykelwguy Anyone can get hurt in a tackle even die, seen it on a rugby field, a rugby league field, Bad technique and total disregard for general safety in sports equals injury or death, regardless who you are. Anyone going out their with the intention to kill should not be allowed to play!
@Areallykelwguy dude, what my eyes tell me in the video is that rugby players tackle, football players hit. There is a reason football upgraded to better protection.
For those that think NFL is better etc (it is cool I watch sometimes) right now the Rugby World Cup is on, just watch a game of that. Last night England vs Argentina was pretty much round 2 of the Falklands War. Every day players are spilling blood for their countries, today Italy played Australia and players were knocked out and had open wounds that were stitched up quickly and then they were sent back out to give more blood for their nation - that level of passion doesn't exist in NFL.
@gnarkillkicksass I like football more myself...Now I don't know how ,uch a rugby player gets paid, butNFL players get rediculous contracts so it's all about the money, not the heart of the game. College football (or almost any college sport) is where the heart is, cause those guys want to be there, they're paying money to play at that kind of level
@gnarkillkicksass not true, before you make a biased decision know your facts. who are you too say if youve never played both sports. the degree of passion even exists at highschool level. one guy on my highschool football team suffered a dislocated shoulder during a playoff game. they put his shoulder back in place on the sideline and he went back into the game. his decision, not a good idea for your body, but thats how much he wanted it.
@Garrett1240 Thats great it was tough for you mate, but a dislocated shoulder is a non event in school boy rugby. I can never play rugby again because of a broken sternum resulting in internal bleeding and heart and lung damage in my senior year and I was just one of about a dozen guys who got severely injured. Google "Wayne Shelford" and his famous injury - that will make you look at rugby very differently.
@gnarkillkicksass AF players have chopped off fingers to keep playing. You do know that serious and catastrophic injuries are far more frequent in AF, don't you? watch?v=9OtKo0wSgKM , watch?v=0oz8zjs6j3M , watch?v=7O01kgbp8t0 , watch?v=A9-KkUH8yt8 , watch?v=9SoDPFhT-u8 , watch?v=nxyIFy2HL6o , watch?v=du_qiQ96ddk , watch?v=YOJYM1sZHR4 , watch?v=8ZpVyXhiKNo , watch?v=T3dq-hh1t1M , watch?v=t3Xk-QHltY4 , watch?v=f0xJT53SZqQ , watch?v=1sf2XbdTiCo , watch?v=IS7Kdq35c-g. 11 deaths in 2011 so far.
@bebomac5 My favourite is Ronnie Lott, the legend has morphed into him walking off the field, cutting the finger off himself then going back on when in fact he had surgery at the end of the season to remove the tip of his finger so he'd be right to play the next season.
@UHtiger You're right, Still, he did play with it completely crushed and partially severed, they showed the injury in pregame, it was gruesome. The tip nearly rotted off, the surgery took it to the knuckle. Still,There's no denying the horrific nature of mant AF injuries, there was another this past weekend.
@bebomac5 There are amazing stories from both sports but of any i've heard, none in my view come close to Buck Shelfords story, had an attempted eye gouge, a few minutes later had his head split open. He went of the field, got it stapled closed and went back on. He then got his scrotum ripped open. Went off, had the doctor sew it back up on the sideline and again went back on. He had to go off a 3rd time with a severe concussion, and only stayed off because the coach wouldnt let him back on.
@UHtiger Impressive story, but ultimately, my point was to illustrate the horrific toll often taken by AF, on those that play the game. most of the vids I posted were of dead and broken bodies, and the struggle of catastrophically injured players to cope with their condition. My overall point was that while injury rates, per player, per game, per season, are very similar between the two sports, catastrophic injuries and death rates are far worse, and far more frequent in AF.
Football players have helmets and pads that protect them. Football players also suffer hits of much more severity, because players delivering hits are also protected and can afford to deliver hits with abandon. There is no blocking in Rugby, so a player without the ball does not have to worry about being hit. In Rugby, collisions only occur around the ball. In Football, collisions occur all over the field all the time. A Football player on defense can be blindsided anytime by a blocking player.
@xxtommytuckerxx um, so the players that are attacking are on a differnt team than the ones defending? I was unaware of that. I thought they were all the same team.
Both are amazing sports. Ignorance is key here thou.
Average life span of an NFL palyer 55, average US male, 78. Amount of concussions suffered by an NFL player 7, number of surgeries 12. Number of collisions each 300 pound fattie as you guys call them is 60 per game at 5g's per collision.
Men who play football die sooner have more injuries and get brutalized every play. Wonder what the touger sport is? Re-read this.
@TheRmason92 it could be that the majority of NFL players are african american, and african american's already have a lower life expectancy than the rest of the population more susceptable to diabetes and cardiovascular disease and more likely to be bankrupt after their professional careers.
our fatties would still have to run up and down the field continually for 80 mins. if your faties tried that they'd probably have even shorter lifespans coz they'd die from heart attacks.
@TheRmason92 Yeah but at the same time deaths are not uncommon in rugby. A young man was killed in my city a couple months ago from a big hit directly on his heart.
I think both sports are tough. I play American football and I can tell you it's not easy. with all the conditioning, lifting weights, hitting, two-a-days(meaning two practices in a day), and 4 hour pratices it can get really tough. Not only on the body but on the mind. I would assume that rugby wouldn't be much different. So in conclusion I think they are both tough.
i wouldent call those nfl players pussys because they will rip you apart and i wouldent call rugby players pussy cuz they will smack you so if you dont play the game and just talk on here do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
@bgreig43 i think it goes without saying (although i doubt you se it that way) if youve only tried rugby in america then your comment doesnt really count. Football in america gets the best athletes playing the sport whilst rugby for the most part would get the left overs, stands to reason that the level of footballers you played against would be alot higher than the type of rugby players you went against.
Im english..lived in the US for a while...American football drove me mad..it's like rugby but they look stupid all padded up and stopping every 30 seconds to talk and pose for the next 5 minutes..all strategy and no game plan..kinda like in afghanistan.
@Outlawzand1 If there was an athlete who was as fast and agile as Jonah Lomu, but was 2in. taller, 5kg. heavier, stronger, and violently competetive, would you want to see him on the Rugby pitch???
Being from england and having played rugby since the age of 5 you can probally tell which one i prefer to play and watch. I like being able to wath a full match without having ads every five minutes
@Outlawzand1 Your almost too stupid to respond to, but anyway... Their are about 350 million, Football (Gridiron) obsessed citizens in the US. Very few have ever seen a Rugby match, even fewer know we have a natl team. Rugby is more obscure here than Soccer, and the only reson anyone watches Soccer is our womens team. I like Rugby, wish it were more popular, but all our best athletes play FB, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey, and Fighting sports.
Football is a game for gentlemen played by hooligans, Rugby is a game for hooligans played by gentlemen, American Football is a game for pussies played by pussies
Before anyone passes judgement on "NFL".. In american football, College Football is far better than the NFL... That said Rugby is a better game in my opinion.. we were lucky enough in an Irish Uni to have both an American Football and a Rugby team,
Trap blocks are vicious, crack backs are worse. Most players on the field average 40-50 collisions per game. Reading comments from Rugby fans, I notice that they seem to severely underestimate the endurance and stamina of Gridiron players. Running in 12-15 lbs of hot equipment is not easy, and football training camp's are "hellish affairs", where players are continually pushed to their breaking points.
American footballer are funny you guys wanna play rugby i look up youtube and it has some football teams doing the haka? wtefff? come guys. why you gotta do a cultural dance from a country that is rugby mad? then add in your sport? the all black wear the first to do it in pro sports cause its a cultural dance now you guys gotta do it aswell? what reason? it clearly is a rugby chant. started and used by a rugby team hahaha. you guys are classic rip offs.
I hope that some of our NFL guys pick up rugby in time for the 2016 Olympics, as we would undoubtedly turn the rest of the world into roadkill. As it stands now, our team is filled with guys who have to hold down jobs on the side, and practice and play when they can, and our pure amateurs are STILL competetive with the rest of the world. If the NFL guys start playing, we can shut the stupid Euros up once and for all.
@JEJMDTD Almost all involved in the world sevens tournament are amateur. Even the major countries like new zealand and australia are semi pro. Fiji, samoa, kenya are amateur and still do better than the US. The US has had guys play that have played NFL or been close and they made no impact so i'm trying to figure out why you think there is going to be some big change.
@UHtiger The current US team has one guy who played for the Dolphins, and he has been playing for less than 6 months, and he is already kicking ass. 6 more like him and the US will score gold.
The US stays on the filed against the best in 7s. That is, the games are not blowouts, meaning there is likley about a half-step difference between the US and the ROW. Wen/if the NFL guys play, the US will pick up 2 steps. Speed kills.
@JEJMDTD of recent times there have been 3, bennie brazzers, leonard peters and one other that made it or got close. none had showed anything new. i remember watching brazzers (former olympic hurdler) get burnt in one game. having a team full of sprinters wont get you anywhere, every team needs their playmakers aswell.
@UHtiger Fair enough. But Brazzers. Peters and the other guy were playing with the amateurs - that is there were not 4 or 5 NFL guys stacking the team, just one, here and there.
I will admit that you need to play as a team, as our Olympic Bball team found out a few years ago - you could not just send NBA guys out and expect to win, so yes it will take a little training. But not much.
@JEJMDTD it doesnt matter if nfl guys join...if there is no culture of the sport in the country u guys will never win another gold and thats a fact.football ruins it for all of rugby in america. most of u guys dont even knw wat rugby is so dont get ur hopes up for a gold in ur lifetime
@JEJMDTD its not only europeans that play. and saying you would beat the best teams in the world in 2016 with youre nfl players is just stupid. the games is nothing alike except the ball has the same shape and you can tackle people.
@ingenmansland I know it is not only Euros who play, but the Euros, particularly the Brits, seem to talk the most smack. So watching them get schooled will be fun.
I disagree the games are nothing alike. I played them both. Have you?
Only Wide receivers runningbacks and some fullbacks could handle Rugby. Some not all. the endurance factor is the biggest one, and mentally playing without pads. Both sports are awesome to watch, but the pauses in football bored me. It takes balls to step into a field ready to take 40 hits a game without pads.
TheUntouch3d 10 hours ago
@NFLization I see your point, but that's only in small bursts. The timeout factor, the changing from defense to offense, where rugby is constantly running, to get into position and you play defense and offense, no timeouts, no tv timeout. Up downs all day, bigger size field to cover, 80 minutes of endurance. Football players are much faster, that's a given, but fitness wise, rugby hands down takes the prize.
Julokaibre 2 days ago
Pointing out the field is wider is to reference the greater fitness Lomu would have over AF players. It's still 15 on 15, that extra four guys kind of works out to be about the same as AF size of field to size of players on the field. If you're talking in comparison to Lomu and let's say Peppers as athletes, on Par, but if you're saying that AF players can switch codes and do what Lomu achieved, I highly doubt it. If I misread and misunderstood your points, then that's my mistake. Sure our gre
Julokaibre 3 weeks ago
Punt and kick returner and plays on a field that is alot wider and longer to cover.
Julokaibre 3 weeks ago
@Julokaibre Now..If you are asking about specific AF athletes that are comparable or better than lomu, there are 100's, look on any team. Here are some for you to check out:
Jimmy Graham, Julius Peppers, Mercedes Lewis, Brandon Jacobs, Mario Williams.
Those are all athletes of similar or greater size than Lomu, other, smaller players such as Vernon Davis, Calvin Johnson, Patrick peterson, and many, many others, are often Far greater athletes than Lomu.
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
@Julokaibre Oh!...and thanks for also pointing out that the field is wider and longer, thus giving R players more room to escape tacklers.
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
Bebomac5, who exactly in NCAA and NFL can do what Jonah did in Rugby? Let's see, no blocking, 40 minute halves with no time outs. Jonah is both Offense and Defense, punt
Julokaibre 3 weeks ago
@Julokaibre Despite the fact that all AF players have played both sides at some point, and are perfectly capable, the sport doesn't call for those skills. However, thanks for pointing out that Lomu could not properly block, nor could he catch a 65 mph forward pass, or wedge bust, or use his vertical leap to block or catch a pass, or shed blockers, or throw a spiral pass, or edge rush, or read defensive coverages. You know why?.. Because his sport doesn't require those skills.
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
@Julokaibre Except in football, if you want to remain a start, EVERY PLAY everybody on the field needs to sprint to their potential and work to their max. Even linemen, don't matter if the ball carrier is 50 yards down the field. I credit Jonah cause he's a beast but rugby players work at their max when they have the ball only.
NFLization 2 days ago
you are probably one of those stats boys, the ones who cannot play the sport they are so enthusiastic about even if their life depended on it. YOU SHOULD ASPIRE TO OBLITERATE THAT FOUL SMELLING ODOUR THAT EMINATES FROM YOUR BUCCAL CAVITY PUNK. I'm From Trinidad and Tobago Bitch, we play Rugby, not this fucking sissy Americanized adaptation of the most wonderful and manly sport. We in the Caribbean Don't have the Liberty of playing on the fucking pussy oriented artificial turf, we play rough!
smartysmurf 3 weeks ago
@smartysmurf If you wish to comment to me, don't be a "worthless Coward!", address me directly!
Actually, I was a 2.5 year starter at the div. 1AA level, sometimes against top 1A schools, such as Clemson, Viginia Tech, and Florida State. I finished with 2 unsuccessful NFL tryouts :( I new I had No chance, but was proud to have had the opportunity. Fyi, less than 8% of AF fields are artificial, and I can tell you, there's nothing "pu**y" about it! It's rougher and harder than grass.
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
Rugby is tougher, no padding required.. pffft
SubZero1703 3 weeks ago
@SubZero1703
I love how ppl who have never withstood hits in AF equipt, think they know what it's like.
Despite incredible conditioning, and equipt, AF players suffer as many or more injuries, except when it comes to catastrophic injuries and deaths, which are much higher in AF.
All AF players have taken massive hits without equipment, it's how we know equipped hits are worse.
Also, how do you think it feels when AF equipt crashes into exposed stomachs, knees, elbows, ribs, etc?
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
@SubZero1703 rugby is gayer, more grabbing required.. ugh..
kenny10penny 3 weeks ago
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@kenny10penny lol you'd be no good in a scrum. Its far from gay getting a uppercut to the jaw during throw in.
SubZero1703 3 weeks ago
@timbob090 and one thing you didn't factor in is that Quinten Jammer is NOT one of the best there is. Not even at his position. Sure he hits hard. For a CB, who are the smallest guys on the football field. A LB or safety would have been better. You obviously dont know football like you do rugby. It's no great mystery that football players hit harder. The pads allow for more violent hits.
yadayadaya 1 month ago
one thing the experiment in the show didn't factor in was it used one of the best american fooballers their is and for rugby they used some guy who looks like he wouldn't make the c team. i'd like them to try a real rugby player like manu tuilagi or sean o'brian or the beast from south africa and see how much harder the impacts are then.
timbob090 1 month ago
@mikeyadigone No it hasn't been proven
UHtiger 1 month ago
@mikeyadigone I gave you 10 different teams. And if I could be bothered could have done a lot more.
UHtiger 1 month ago
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People get killed playing football without helmet and pads -- 19 college players in a single year once. In 1905 the American government seriously considered banning the sport. Nothing in rugby history can compare to that. Think im lying . search it up
tinnoo8 1 month ago
And by the way...those gay little dances that they do in rugby...WTF is that?
mikeyadigone 1 month ago
@mikeyadigone watch?v=mM8vR8Lc_SI, watch?v=sxB25H4yB2E, watch?v=m0LDKK7EPko&feature=related, watch?v=2uDZKwkxfbg&feature=related, watch?v=89rI-IHNtJU&feature=related, watch?v=5pzAIZLPxvc&feature=related, watch?v=lXddqrJkVIM&feature=related, watch?v=-X1WVET0vOs&feature=related, watch?v=lgdN7TI5Q1I&feature=related, watch?v=J7so6iCWyNw&feature=related. You call it gay and yet dozens of highschool and college football teams around the US try (emphasis on try) to copy it.
UHtiger 1 month ago
@UHtiger They try to copy those gay little dances? And yes, yes it has. Now STFU!
mikeyadigone 1 month ago
@UHtiger Alright fair enough, you found one video of a college football team doing a "haka?" That's what it's called right? But it's also a video of the University of HAWAII, so I'm assuming they're trying to get back to their indigenous roots, or something. I can assure you though that the "haka" is NOT common in American Football.
mikeyadigone 1 month ago
@mikeyadigone One, i found 10, all different teams. Theres more i just didnt have enough room.
UHtiger 1 month ago
@mikeyadigone It's a maori war dance.
I'm guessing you think Spartans are gay because they had war screams.
Outlawzand1 1 month ago
Obviously everyones opinion here is biased, so there's no real point in arguing which sport is "tougher" or "better." Though it has been tested and scientifically proven that wearing pads and the angle of the plays in American Football generate tackles that are up to four times harder than those in rugby. That being said, I've personally played both and they're both physically demanding so, ultimately what is comes down to is which sport you like the most, that's it.
mikeyadigone 1 month ago
@mikeyadigone no, no it hasnt.
UHtiger 1 month ago
@mikeyadigone AF is explosive and the hits are more violent.
Rugby is endurance and is more physically demanding.
Outlawzand1 1 month ago
@Outlawzand1 imo i would say rugby hits are more voilent
heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy 1 month ago
@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy It's hard to say because of the padding, but besides protecting
you it's also used as a weapon.
Outlawzand1 1 month ago
@Outlawzand1 yea coz you know youve got a bit of protection when having pads on, so you go at someone at full pace, and get up and feel like nothing happened coz protect gear took most of the grunt impact so u keep playing, but you go at someone running the ball in rugby , youll feel the full force on your body , and thats y its more brutal then AF
heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy 1 month ago
@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy If R fans wouldn't say such stupid things, as you did, it wouldn't be so easy to destroy your points. "get up and feel nothing"?..Really?
watch?v=1D1IGweDXSY , watch?v=FnGgBba0K_A , watch?v=ykMmDmFXOj8 ,
watch?v=Ss2dn_QI5kE , watch?v=3k-w_YOLW3o , watch?v=bbm-NhB4e5U ,
watch?v=Ce6VlbQDa90 , watch?v=SbDS5WKhdwM , watch?v=DiFZMQv3TM4 ,
Injury rates are higher in than R, unfortunately so are paralyzations and death, think about that!
bebomac5 1 month ago
@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy AF collisions are 2-3 times more powerful than R hits. Almost any player can be hit at any time, from any direction, everywhere on the field. Also, keep in mind, some of the rules restricting aggression, don't exist in AF.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 bro ive played AF and wow that has gotta to be the sofest sport in world, I play in u 18's rugby and get hit way harder then some of the hits youve posted, lol they are like training hits! and with the money you earn over their for playing , you get treated like little princesses , whereas we just suck it up and play the next game, like a real man. pads for pussies , but thats my opinion .
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@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy Hard to take you seriously, when in one of the vids I posted, a man is folded back so far, his head literally touches his ass. Whether you admit it or not, I know you have respect for the viciousness of the game, and have never seen anything like that in Rugby. It's amusing how you earlier critcized that AF players don't get hurt because of pads, to now saying they don't get up and play on ???? Btw, you're wrong on both counts...You're not good at this.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 training hits , thats all they are lol
heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy 1 month ago
@heeeeeeeyyyyyyyyy No, these are training hits:
watch?v=VJI11zkJM_c ,
watch?B8wOvyrvpdI ,
watch?v=XIdxk6Kr3gM .
Rugby teams don't even do high impact collision training, something AF players start at 6-8 years old:
watch?v=M1fVZBMeEV0 ,
watch?v=0AvtCDZyLds .
Funny how you have nothing that even compares, and I haven't even posted any paralyzation or AF death vids. Not saying R is soft, it's brutal, but the force of impact in AF, cannot be matched.
bebomac5 1 month ago
@bebomac5 yawn Jonah Lomu why say more. High impact ? ROFL You got no clue.
SubZero1703 3 weeks ago
@SubZero1703 Lomu's size, speed, strength, skill, etc. are quite common in AF. Rugby fans are always in such awe of Lomu's prowess, and while hs was quite impressive, the NCAA & NFL are packed with guys like him and better on every team.
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
@bebomac5 you have to be a fucking cunt!!
smartysmurf 3 weeks ago
@smartysmurf Oh look!..A poet! Is that really the best you can do? Or do you actually have something remotely intelligent to say? Come on man!..Fire up that "turd" you're using for a brain, and bless us with your thoughts...Lol!
bebomac5 3 weeks ago
@Outlawzand1 lol fking no way., Dream the fuck on.
SubZero1703 3 weeks ago
Song is Bringing Me Down by Drowning Pool.
oh and by the way there are hits far more rougher and stronger in american football than in rugby , even though they aren't that frequent ,a player taking this hit without pads would literally get killed. Plus rugby is for people who couldn't afford american football.
YrGuitarGeek 2 months ago
Rugby is more physical. you don't have quarter's or down's.. It's constant playing for 40 minutes a half.
xsjado2010stockwell 2 months ago
Rugby anyday.
xsjado2010stockwell 2 months ago
@IthinkTherefoeican Yeah Nfl players are fucking vegetables once they're 60 years old.
storkofcoure96 2 months ago 2
I play american football for my school, and i play without padscall summer long. So I guess rugby players can't insult me.
storkofcoure96 2 months ago
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American football player: "Hey i know, lets try and look tough by tackling each other while wearing a motorcycle helmet, tights and enough protection to survive a nuclear bombing".
Rugby player: "No thanks, i actually have balls".
Ben19927 2 months ago
I'm almost 32 y.o., I've spent most of the last few seasons injured with a subluxed AC joint (I did it originally in 1999). I'm thinking about switching to AF cos my shoulder can't take rugby anymore...Says it all really.
mcnesta80 2 months ago
@mcnesta80 Cool story bro
Slotten68 2 months ago
If u think american football is tougher, ur a retard. Rugby is none stop, in american football, you get hit and have 40 seconds to recover, in rugby, u get hit and have to get up and keep playing and get hit over and over and over again. There is way to much protection in American Football, and yes i know its true, and in rugby there not girls and they don't wear pads. Just that last statement shows how tough rugby is compared to American Football. Plus rugby is just overall a better sport.
homefront017 2 months ago
@homefront017 No you don't get hit over and over again in rugby. Players away from the ball are just standing around. You standa much better chance of getting hit away from the ball in AF because in AF you play the man, not the ball, and hits away from the ball are permitted.
JEJMDTD 2 months ago
i can see ill have to end this debate. Fottball players wear pads, therefor they are greater than or infact equal to a vagina. Advantage rugby
Tulo4president 2 months ago
Both are superb athletes, but ruggers simply would not be prepared for the quickness of American NFL players. NFL'ers woudl close on the ball-carrier so quickly, and break on passes out to the wings so quickly that they would overwhelm Ruggers. Plus there is no comparing the hits. Period. Y'all over-estimate how much protection plastic shoulder pads provide. The highlight Rugby hits happen 50 times a game in American football. Ribs would be broken, concussions inflicted.
iThinkThereforeiCan 3 months ago
@iThinkThereforeiCan Ribs are broken and concussions are inflicted in rugby. im personal proof, stop gassing about stuff you dont know and get a life
HenryHoldenator 2 months ago
@HenryHoldenator "Stop gassing..." LOL and touche. Hardest hits I ever took were in Hockey, but that is a different conversation. Ruggers don't need to feel insulted, they do have more stamina and are as tough as they come. Doesn't change the fact that even adjusted for pads NFL hits are more violent more of the time. Or that more NFL'ers are brutes like Jonah. I honestly feel guilty watching the NFL now because I know the beating their brains are taking. Literally. Helmets or no.
iThinkThereforeiCan 2 months ago
Also AF are faster stronger and bigger average whys.these are facts... another thing you do not have more collisions cause there is no blocking... so in prospective 11 on 11 about 120-140 plays a game 11 times 120 because there is 11 players and each is blocking another equals 1320 hit's ATLEAST a game.. that is saying if u block only one person in one play so really there will be more... so that means about every 3 .5 seconds there will have to be a tackle in rugby which doesn't happen...
Nickkieg6 3 months ago
@Nickkieg6 The quaterback doesnt get hit all the time, usually the only receiver that gets hit is the one with the ball, kicker rarely gets hit, only one of the running backs gets hit at a time most of the time, same could be said for defense as well.
UHtiger 3 months ago
@UHtiger Your points tend to ignore the fact that 90%+ of impacts in AF are from "blocks". Prototypical QB's will be hit 5-10 times a game (many blindsides), while mobile QB's are hit 10-20 times per game. What do you think WR's do when they not running routes? That's right, their blocking, FB's hit something on almost every play, thats what their for, HB's are tackled 20-40 times, and will usually make 15-20 blocks. LB's 30-50 hits per gm. who cares about K's, although it's more than u think.
bebomac5 3 months ago
@bebomac5 So your backing up my point that the entire 22 arnt hitting during every play. "What do you think WR's do when they not running routes?" How often do they not run routes? So are you trying to say that the only player that runs the route is the man about to receive the ball? No more often than not the others are also running decoy routes and the players marking them are following their man and also not getting into the collisions either.
UHtiger 3 months ago
@UHtiger Decoy routes? maybe you're referring to "run offs"? (5%). QB's read progressions. Passes don't often go to the primary reciever, and remember that WR's aren't the only recievers, the selection is fairly random (hit the open man). To answer you're ? "How often do they not run routes?" 25%-40% of the time, depending on the team. Most teams run the ball 35%-50% of the time, on those plays Wr's run cut blocks, hook blocks, crack backs, etc. A very minimum of 12 plyrs hit on every play.
bebomac5 3 months ago
@bebomac5 So after all that you just confirmed my initial point, not all 22 on the field are hitting on every play. Thanks.
UHtiger 3 months ago
@UHtiger Who ever said that they did??? But it happens. There are an avg of 1200 impacts in an AF game, although, I'm surprised it's not more. You, more than any other person I converse with, needs to see a top HS, college, or pro game, live and up close. Pop!...pop! pop!..pop!.....pop!..All over the field, every play. I have a feeling your tone would change within the first 30-40 seconds.
bebomac5 3 months ago
@bebomac5 The guy who i originally replied to was the one that said they did. Thats who. But as is always the case with you, you've jumped straight in without noting what has been previously said.
UHtiger 3 months ago
I'm tired of hearing we're tougher cause we play without pads. everyone has played without pads... but with head to head collisions and to many deaths helmets are needed. also you guys are more fit. false NFL players train for bursts every play is given 100% rugby you see people slacking all the way down the line just waiting... and if your so much more fit cause you can go 80 minutes i will give most fit to triathlon people even soccer players so don't go more fit cause u play longer
Nickkieg6 3 months ago
@Nickkieg6 They say they are fitter because they are, no-one at all is saying rugby requires more fitness than triathlons or soccer (although soccer is debatable as the added physical nature of rugby takes a different toll) what they are saying is that they are fitter than football players.
Stats show the average play time of a NFL game is 11 minutes. Split that between offence, defence and specials and thats not much play time per player. Rugby players average about 12kms per game.
UHtiger 3 months ago
Everyone just look at these clips. HOW CAN YOU NOT see the passion in these players for there sport and cause!???!? im american and i LOVE both sports. think before you make a biased answer.
Garrett1240 3 months ago
Come lets get someone from NFL to take a run straight no padding which one of yas a ready to give it a shot NRL is the worlds best sport so lets run straight and take the hit up FUCK YERRR OATH
madman98765432 3 months ago
RUGBY IS THE THIRD MOST WATCHED GAME IN THE WORLD GOOD NEWS FOR RUGBY IN GENERAL AND THE EXSPANSION OF THE RUGBY EMPIRE
supersaiyanMK2 3 months ago
@supersaiyanMK2 Rugby is far from the 3rd most watched sport in the world. In fact, sports like Basketball, Baseball, and Volleyball are all more popular world wide. Look it up!
bebomac5 3 months ago
@bebomac5 rugby is you homo AF is gay!!!!!RUGBY IS THE BEST
supersaiyanMK2 3 months ago
@bebomac5 Source? Soccer is the most watced (I'm not a fan at all) and the RWC was 2nd this year.
gnarkillkicksass 3 months ago
@gnarkillkicksass Soccer is obviously the most watched, as expected, but while the RWC is the 2nd-3rd most watched as an event, Rugby as a sport is not.
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bebomac5 3 months ago
american football is gay and dumb and full of dumb black niggas lol
supersaiyanMK2 4 months ago
@supersaiyanMK2 Wow! a Moron, and a Racist too!
bebomac5 4 months ago
@bebomac5 stalking me you homo why dont you go and masterbate to those gay tight spandex AF shorts
supersaiyanMK2 3 months ago
@TheElJesus @UHtiger The Rugby World Cup is the 3rd most watched "sporting event", Rugby is not the thirdost watched sport.
bebomac5 4 months ago
@bebomac5 which is what i said.
UHtiger 4 months ago
@bebomac5 IS A COCKSUCKING HOMO LMFAO
supersaiyanMK2 3 months ago
@supersaiyanMK2 You know if you didn't make such petty, childish, and hateful statements, you might actually have a chance in a debate. But instead, you continually lose arguments, then resort to insults and senseless, angry rants. Maybe if you spent less time being a homophobic racist, you might avoid repeatedly embarrassing yourself, and perpetually living under my boot! Somehow I think you lack the brain power to collect useful thoughts, and the class to stop yourself from being..well...you.
bebomac5 3 months ago
RUGBY FOR LIFE!! Fuck nfl and all the pussies that play with pads and all that shit!! come play a real mans sport, bet each and every one of you will not even last 10 minutes. screw nfl
nzallblacksrugby8man 4 months ago
@nzallblacksrugby8man If they don't wear pads, they will literally DIE. You are aware of that right? Rugby tackles are boring, Rugby is only fun if you're the one playing it, watching it is fucking boring. American Football is far more intense everyone on the field is up against another person whether it's a wide receiver against a cornerback or a nose tackle against a center. In rugby everyone is just dancing around, no blocking or anything. Look past your pride and open your mind, dude
TheElJesus 4 months ago
@TheElJesus Times Magazine found that on average a nfl game has 11 minutes of actual play in a game that takes nearly 3 hours. Sounds enthralling.
If Rugby is only exciting to those playing, why is the Rugby World Cup the 3rd most watchd sporting event in the world.
UHtiger 4 months ago
@UHtiger American Football requires more tactics, and that's just the way the game is played. But does it really matter how many people watch it? Justin Bieber has more fans than most bands right now, that doesn't make him better. I guess since there aren't countries representing american football, the people outside of the US have no reason to care about it, vise-versa regarding Rugby. I still think rugby is fun to play and takes balls but in terms of entertainment, no sport beats football.
TheElJesus 4 months ago
@TheElJesus Your quote "Rugby is only fun if you're the one playing it, watching it is fucking boring". Once again, how can it be boring if it has the 3rd most watched sporting event in the world. Beiber has a demographic of fans (teenage girls) who love his work. Rugby is watched around the world by all ages so very different things.
UHtiger 4 months ago
@UHtiger Rugby has a demographic too, Rugby fans, Rugby is played more than football in the world so obviously it'd have more fans. I'd like to see your reference on that, because it's bullshit. It may be watched most in Aus, or NZ and Europe but it definitely is NOT the third most watched in the world. What I said still works, just because something has more fans doesn't make it better or more entertaining.
TheElJesus 4 months ago
@TheElJesus look up the Rugby World Cup on wiki, has links to sites regarding the viewership numbers. The 2007 world cup drew 4.3 billion viewers over the course of the tournament behind only the Soccer WC the summer olympics and the tour de france.
UHtiger 4 months ago
@whiteej21 sounds like an excuse to me.... die?? pleaseeee.... give me a f*#@ing break (eyes rolling). The fact is NFL players are just not fit enough. You said it yourself they couldn't possibly play an entire game. LOL
robbariffic 4 months ago
Rugby 4 Life!!.. Rugby Sevens is going to be a massive sport in the future because of it's placement in the 2016 Olympics in Rio... planning on going there...
SpiritMan00 4 months ago
rugby isway better than football!!!
MrRazorbladezz 4 months ago
That MUST be SBW at 1.32. Can't see his face, not wearing his number, but I'd recognise that left shoulder anywhere.
mcnesta80 4 months ago 3
@mcnesta80 definatly sonny bill :D
FutureLAD66 2 months ago
People need to stop dissing AF or Rugby. They are both great games similar in some way and different and other. "AF players are pussies because they wear pads" people that say that have never played it. There's a reason why they where pads. If you see some of the hits on kick/punt returns and receivers over the middle literally get knocked out. Many players have to retire early because of recurring concussions.
whothaplaya 4 months ago
@whiteej21 Comparing the sport comes first.
Rugby takes unquestionably more strength and endurance.
xSerialVelocity 5 months ago
@whiteej21 have you touched a NFL helmet? I'd call that armour, mate.
Rugby does limit contact, but at the same time rugby requires more strength and endurance. All rugby players need to be fast, strong and be able to think, and perform every job. Gridiron players are specialised in the sense one player throws, two or three catch, five block, one kicks. i mean gridiron requires some players to be fat -pathetic.
The rugby world cup is on. Does gridiron have a world cup? no, says it all really
xSerialVelocity 5 months ago
@whiteej21 no other position? lol
Gridiron players play for three seconds and rest, rugby players have to be physical, have endurance and strength for forty minutes straight, and then forty minutes again.
Have you played rugby? It may not be rough but It requires more strength and endurance. Yes I realise Gridiron is rough but it is nowhere near the strength of rugby. Rugby players have to be ALL athletic, whereas some gridiron players can be fucking telly tubby fat cunts, lol .
xSerialVelocity 5 months ago
NFL is just speed and tackling momentum, Rugbys brute force, i wanna see a rugby player tackle an NFL player and vise versa
ScouserLegend 5 months ago
@whiteej21 Mmm when I lived in Providence with my girlfriend there was never that kind of intensity. It is the same with club rugby, both tough competitions but nothing makes a person want to spill blood like playing while their whole country watches.
gnarkillkicksass 5 months ago
@whiteej21 i think the armour, helmet, pads that blanket the gridiron player counts as a restriction that protects them.....lol
xSerialVelocity 5 months ago
@whiteej21 I did enjoy playing rugby more though. I actually got to touch the ball once in a while. Watching a fat prop waddle down the field carrying the ball was almost as good.
JEJMDTD 5 months ago
@whiteej21 I think that while you can occaisionally get the perfect kill shot in rugby, you only get it once every few games. I think in football you get it every 10 plays or so.
JEJMDTD 5 months ago
I love my country. I feel that the USA will catch on with the sport when we bring home the gold in the Olympics!
Rugby is the sport of men.
Euphoricvoid 5 months ago
How come to more concussions happen in football? Helmet to helmet right? To all of the sudden that "padding" excuse looks dead now. btw even if they were wearing rock hard pads, what if it collided into someone's arm, stomach, back, legs or even neck. In rugby it's basically flesh, skin, fat and a little bone that hits you.
NFLization 5 months ago
search, rugby fights
search, nfl fights
nuff said...
townsvillefield 5 months ago
american =small dicks and big mouthed
akobiafo 5 months ago
@akobiafo What?
Areallykelwguy 5 months ago
Americans play football without pads all the time...in the backyard..
IHawk3ye 5 months ago
Why do Football Players wear pads?
Because Americans can actually tackle hard enough to kill a man.
Europeans however are can only tackle hard enough to make a guy get a stitch or two.
Areallykelwguy 5 months ago
@Areallykelwguy because the sporting body told them to. Most of the hard hits you see are the result of the pads, if they didnt wear the pads they would learn to hit properly.
UHtiger 5 months ago
@Areallykelwguy Anyone can get hurt in a tackle even die, seen it on a rugby field, a rugby league field, Bad technique and total disregard for general safety in sports equals injury or death, regardless who you are. Anyone going out their with the intention to kill should not be allowed to play!
NinosDad11 5 months ago
@Areallykelwguy dude, what my eyes tell me in the video is that rugby players tackle, football players hit. There is a reason football upgraded to better protection.
NFLization 5 months ago
For those that think NFL is better etc (it is cool I watch sometimes) right now the Rugby World Cup is on, just watch a game of that. Last night England vs Argentina was pretty much round 2 of the Falklands War. Every day players are spilling blood for their countries, today Italy played Australia and players were knocked out and had open wounds that were stitched up quickly and then they were sent back out to give more blood for their nation - that level of passion doesn't exist in NFL.
gnarkillkicksass 5 months ago 10
@gnarkillkicksass I like football more myself...Now I don't know how ,uch a rugby player gets paid, butNFL players get rediculous contracts so it's all about the money, not the heart of the game. College football (or almost any college sport) is where the heart is, cause those guys want to be there, they're paying money to play at that kind of level
tenticalteeth 4 months ago
@gnarkillkicksass not true, before you make a biased decision know your facts. who are you too say if youve never played both sports. the degree of passion even exists at highschool level. one guy on my highschool football team suffered a dislocated shoulder during a playoff game. they put his shoulder back in place on the sideline and he went back into the game. his decision, not a good idea for your body, but thats how much he wanted it.
Garrett1240 3 months ago
@Garrett1240 Thats great it was tough for you mate, but a dislocated shoulder is a non event in school boy rugby. I can never play rugby again because of a broken sternum resulting in internal bleeding and heart and lung damage in my senior year and I was just one of about a dozen guys who got severely injured. Google "Wayne Shelford" and his famous injury - that will make you look at rugby very differently.
gnarkillkicksass 3 months ago
@gnarkillkicksass AF players have chopped off fingers to keep playing. You do know that serious and catastrophic injuries are far more frequent in AF, don't you? watch?v=9OtKo0wSgKM , watch?v=0oz8zjs6j3M , watch?v=7O01kgbp8t0 , watch?v=A9-KkUH8yt8 , watch?v=9SoDPFhT-u8 , watch?v=nxyIFy2HL6o , watch?v=du_qiQ96ddk , watch?v=YOJYM1sZHR4 , watch?v=8ZpVyXhiKNo , watch?v=T3dq-hh1t1M , watch?v=t3Xk-QHltY4 , watch?v=f0xJT53SZqQ , watch?v=1sf2XbdTiCo , watch?v=IS7Kdq35c-g. 11 deaths in 2011 so far.
bebomac5 3 months ago
@bebomac5 My favourite is Ronnie Lott, the legend has morphed into him walking off the field, cutting the finger off himself then going back on when in fact he had surgery at the end of the season to remove the tip of his finger so he'd be right to play the next season.
UHtiger 3 months ago
@UHtiger You're right, Still, he did play with it completely crushed and partially severed, they showed the injury in pregame, it was gruesome. The tip nearly rotted off, the surgery took it to the knuckle. Still,There's no denying the horrific nature of mant AF injuries, there was another this past weekend.
bebomac5 3 months ago
@bebomac5 There are amazing stories from both sports but of any i've heard, none in my view come close to Buck Shelfords story, had an attempted eye gouge, a few minutes later had his head split open. He went of the field, got it stapled closed and went back on. He then got his scrotum ripped open. Went off, had the doctor sew it back up on the sideline and again went back on. He had to go off a 3rd time with a severe concussion, and only stayed off because the coach wouldnt let him back on.
UHtiger 3 months ago
@UHtiger Impressive story, but ultimately, my point was to illustrate the horrific toll often taken by AF, on those that play the game. most of the vids I posted were of dead and broken bodies, and the struggle of catastrophically injured players to cope with their condition. My overall point was that while injury rates, per player, per game, per season, are very similar between the two sports, catastrophic injuries and death rates are far worse, and far more frequent in AF.
bebomac5 3 months ago
Football players have helmets and pads that protect them. Football players also suffer hits of much more severity, because players delivering hits are also protected and can afford to deliver hits with abandon. There is no blocking in Rugby, so a player without the ball does not have to worry about being hit. In Rugby, collisions only occur around the ball. In Football, collisions occur all over the field all the time. A Football player on defense can be blindsided anytime by a blocking player.
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TroxlerJ 5 months ago in playlist rugby
@lifesaach To that I would reply, "strap on the helmet and pads", then go out a play some "smashmouth" in -2c degree weather,see who survives.
bebomac5 5 months ago
@xxtommytuckerxx um, so the players that are attacking are on a differnt team than the ones defending? I was unaware of that. I thought they were all the same team.
TheRmason92 5 months ago
in rugby we have A team not teams for attack and defense
XxTommyTuckerxX 5 months ago
Both are amazing sports. Ignorance is key here thou.
Average life span of an NFL palyer 55, average US male, 78. Amount of concussions suffered by an NFL player 7, number of surgeries 12. Number of collisions each 300 pound fattie as you guys call them is 60 per game at 5g's per collision.
Men who play football die sooner have more injuries and get brutalized every play. Wonder what the touger sport is? Re-read this.
TheRmason92 5 months ago
@TheRmason92 want to see who is tougher?? put the helmet and pads down..
lifesaach 5 months ago
@TheRmason92 it could be that the majority of NFL players are african american, and african american's already have a lower life expectancy than the rest of the population more susceptable to diabetes and cardiovascular disease and more likely to be bankrupt after their professional careers.
our fatties would still have to run up and down the field continually for 80 mins. if your faties tried that they'd probably have even shorter lifespans coz they'd die from heart attacks.
tee23en 5 months ago
@TheRmason92 Yeah but at the same time deaths are not uncommon in rugby. A young man was killed in my city a couple months ago from a big hit directly on his heart.
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American football is loved by America. Rugby is loved by the World!
aireeiz 6 months ago
I think both sports are tough. I play American football and I can tell you it's not easy. with all the conditioning, lifting weights, hitting, two-a-days(meaning two practices in a day), and 4 hour pratices it can get really tough. Not only on the body but on the mind. I would assume that rugby wouldn't be much different. So in conclusion I think they are both tough.
warfan105 6 months ago
i wouldent call those nfl players pussys because they will rip you apart and i wouldent call rugby players pussy cuz they will smack you so if you dont play the game and just talk on here do us all a favor and SHUT THE FUCK UP!!
KIDBAY1 6 months ago
@UHtiger i played rugby league for 2 years in england...
bgreig43 6 months ago
ive played both...football hits are much harder...football players are much bigger too. Id rather be hit by Sébastien Chabal anyday than Ray Lewis
bgreig43 6 months ago
@bgreig43 i think it goes without saying (although i doubt you se it that way) if youve only tried rugby in america then your comment doesnt really count. Football in america gets the best athletes playing the sport whilst rugby for the most part would get the left overs, stands to reason that the level of footballers you played against would be alot higher than the type of rugby players you went against.
UHtiger 6 months ago
american hits are alot harder, heads snap back...its plain as day.
heliasapig 6 months ago
@heliasapig "rugby best hits and fights compilation HD" that is all.
UHtiger 6 months ago
Im english..lived in the US for a while...American football drove me mad..it's like rugby but they look stupid all padded up and stopping every 30 seconds to talk and pose for the next 5 minutes..all strategy and no game plan..kinda like in afghanistan.
hebay2 6 months ago
thanks for the all blacks highlight video
bellyflop55 6 months ago
@Outlawzand1 If there was an athlete who was as fast and agile as Jonah Lomu, but was 2in. taller, 5kg. heavier, stronger, and violently competetive, would you want to see him on the Rugby pitch???
bebomac5 6 months ago
In which game do you see more blood and no timeouts?
Budgiein87 7 months ago
Being from england and having played rugby since the age of 5 you can probally tell which one i prefer to play and watch. I like being able to wath a full match without having ads every five minutes
BerusadeGamer 7 months ago
yeah what he said.
storkofcoure96 7 months ago
@Outlawzand1 Your almost too stupid to respond to, but anyway... Their are about 350 million, Football (Gridiron) obsessed citizens in the US. Very few have ever seen a Rugby match, even fewer know we have a natl team. Rugby is more obscure here than Soccer, and the only reson anyone watches Soccer is our womens team. I like Rugby, wish it were more popular, but all our best athletes play FB, Basketball, Baseball, Hockey, and Fighting sports.
bebomac5 7 months ago
Football is a game for gentlemen played by hooligans, Rugby is a game for hooligans played by gentlemen, American Football is a game for pussies played by pussies
shanontamahau 7 months ago
Before anyone passes judgement on "NFL".. In american football, College Football is far better than the NFL... That said Rugby is a better game in my opinion.. we were lucky enough in an Irish Uni to have both an American Football and a Rugby team,
landa2 7 months ago
Trap blocks are vicious, crack backs are worse. Most players on the field average 40-50 collisions per game. Reading comments from Rugby fans, I notice that they seem to severely underestimate the endurance and stamina of Gridiron players. Running in 12-15 lbs of hot equipment is not easy, and football training camp's are "hellish affairs", where players are continually pushed to their breaking points.
bebomac5 7 months ago
Rugby requires much more skill than NFL
glaztheman 7 months ago
for the last time the NFL is a football leage not the actual sport so plz dont just call any american football NFL
divepro5 7 months ago
American footballer are funny you guys wanna play rugby i look up youtube and it has some football teams doing the haka? wtefff? come guys. why you gotta do a cultural dance from a country that is rugby mad? then add in your sport? the all black wear the first to do it in pro sports cause its a cultural dance now you guys gotta do it aswell? what reason? it clearly is a rugby chant. started and used by a rugby team hahaha. you guys are classic rip offs.
superbill3001 8 months ago
I hope that some of our NFL guys pick up rugby in time for the 2016 Olympics, as we would undoubtedly turn the rest of the world into roadkill. As it stands now, our team is filled with guys who have to hold down jobs on the side, and practice and play when they can, and our pure amateurs are STILL competetive with the rest of the world. If the NFL guys start playing, we can shut the stupid Euros up once and for all.
JEJMDTD 8 months ago
@JEJMDTD Almost all involved in the world sevens tournament are amateur. Even the major countries like new zealand and australia are semi pro. Fiji, samoa, kenya are amateur and still do better than the US. The US has had guys play that have played NFL or been close and they made no impact so i'm trying to figure out why you think there is going to be some big change.
UHtiger 8 months ago
@UHtiger The current US team has one guy who played for the Dolphins, and he has been playing for less than 6 months, and he is already kicking ass. 6 more like him and the US will score gold.
The US stays on the filed against the best in 7s. That is, the games are not blowouts, meaning there is likley about a half-step difference between the US and the ROW. Wen/if the NFL guys play, the US will pick up 2 steps. Speed kills.
JEJMDTD 8 months ago
@JEJMDTD of recent times there have been 3, bennie brazzers, leonard peters and one other that made it or got close. none had showed anything new. i remember watching brazzers (former olympic hurdler) get burnt in one game. having a team full of sprinters wont get you anywhere, every team needs their playmakers aswell.
UHtiger 8 months ago
@UHtiger Fair enough. But Brazzers. Peters and the other guy were playing with the amateurs - that is there were not 4 or 5 NFL guys stacking the team, just one, here and there.
I will admit that you need to play as a team, as our Olympic Bball team found out a few years ago - you could not just send NBA guys out and expect to win, so yes it will take a little training. But not much.
JEJMDTD 8 months ago
@JEJMDTD it doesnt matter if nfl guys join...if there is no culture of the sport in the country u guys will never win another gold and thats a fact.football ruins it for all of rugby in america. most of u guys dont even knw wat rugby is so dont get ur hopes up for a gold in ur lifetime
jmanistheman12345678 8 months ago
@JEJMDTD its not only europeans that play. and saying you would beat the best teams in the world in 2016 with youre nfl players is just stupid. the games is nothing alike except the ball has the same shape and you can tackle people.
ingenmansland 8 months ago
@ingenmansland I know it is not only Euros who play, but the Euros, particularly the Brits, seem to talk the most smack. So watching them get schooled will be fun.
I disagree the games are nothing alike. I played them both. Have you?
JEJMDTD 8 months ago
@JEJMDTD So why hasn't it happened yet then?
America has a rugby team in the Rugby World Cup, and I never
see them doing that great. Canada probably does better on average
than you guys.
It shows that Rugby is alot different to strapping on a bucket helmet
and shoulder/chest pads etc and then running or using your big bodyweight
to block someone.
That's why Rugby is loved by the world,
and American Football is loved by Americans.
Outlawzand1 7 months ago
@Outlawzand1 The guys playing now are amateurs. They hold down full time jobs while trying to play.
Rugby is not so much differnt. You obviously speak from the voice of ignorance, that is, you have not palyed both games. I have.
I have also seen the level of athleticism in the NFL. They will run circles aroung your guys.