Who could say for certain that we or any other species out there would certainly not be able to travel to other planets? Only those who believe that our current theories on physics cannot definitively be wrong in regards to space travel! This is not very wise and not realistic knowing that our progress have known multiple science revolutions that have people thinking this or that was impossible in view of the theories of the moment.
im half way through his book and i understand now what the discovery has been ie, there is no known laws that can account for the arrangement of base pairs, ie they are not arranged due to chemical attraction/bonding laws or whatever but due to (what has to be i guess?) some exogenous source, i think its cool how hes not drawing conclusions from this but is allowing the reader to draw their own conclusions (though havnt finished it yet)
@OptimalElement ?? Think information. Information? Where did it come from? That's the arguement. Intelligent Design asserts that information is a product of mind. Now think about information at the scale of the UNIVERSE.All of matter and energy can be reduced down to information that can be rationally explained.We observe patterns in the universe and develop laws helping to further make sense of the univese.Do you get it now? Or are you playing dumb on purpose?Think, Big picture.
@OptimalElement Dawkins seems to think it provides enough evidence for some kind of "design", just not a designer like God. According to Dawkins, he thinks intelligent extraplanetary life forms (aliens) seeded the earth with life as we know it.
No he doesn't think that. Your just misrepresenting what he said in the film ''expelled''. He said IF some aliens planted life here then those aliens themselves must have somehow came into existence by natural means. But there is no evidence aliens did placed life here. There are many reason but most strong one is that they would not have the energy or resources to get to our solar system in the fist places.
One thing that remains unexplained is how these various elements move around or seem to be swimming to another site seeing how they are only small groups of atoms at this small a level. Is all this done by chemical reorientations of atoms therein? Seems the swimming would be difficult via that action.
If something is so complex that it must require a designer (which I understand is the basic tenet of ID), and the example of, say, DNA is used to make the point, then there must also exist something so simple that it DOESN`T require a designer. If there isn`t such simplicity, then the word complex has no meaning, because everything then is complex, and therefore everything requires a designer. It`s circular.
So, challenge: Give an example of such simplicity.
@JeffreyHelix Not really valid, as all ID complexity claims regard living things. The challenge is to give an example of simplicity in living matter. Otherwise, all living things are complex, and complexity requires a designer; a fully sealed and self-contained circular argument with no explanatory power.
Transatlantic, why does it have to be one or the other, of course there's evolution, it's like republican vs democrat, everybody arguing back and forth while the banks rob us blind. Divide and conquer.... We' all have our opinions, I just don't understand how somebody can watch DNA replicate and not see that it is a biological machine
@carlosZ1981 evolution is a myth same as god. when watching the video, for me it's obvious that we have been created by intelligent creators, scientific civilization from space. it makes much more sense than the theory of god or evolution. thank you
@kasyo00 any evidence to back that up? cause i have plenty of evidence that proves evolution as fact. but i am sure that you do not want to look at the actual evidence and instead find it easier to believe that 'god did it'. really, why do you believe a book written thousands of years ago by primitive people rather than the scientific evidence that we can actually prove to be true? its insane and it shows that you dont care, you just want to believe what you want to believe.
One thing creates another, another thing creates another and so on. So tell me at what point something was not created, at what point it was by chance?
There's obviously something driving/instructing the cell to survive, thrive and adapt and grow. If it was all just random and accidental, why would it give a shit? It wants to sustain life. People get caught up in the whole "god thing", when it has nothing to do with it, we're just pointing out evidence of intent and intelligence. It would be like if ur a coroner and said this person didn't die by accident, it was clearly murder, and atheist say " well then who's the murder?" how should I know
before you use an argument you dont know anything about to support a point you have no evidence for and cant logically use evidence to support you should do some proper research. although i dont think God would be happy with you as that would mean you dont trust your faith.
things dont move in a directed way on there own. im sorry to tell you the movie is just not detailed enough to show everything going on. everything in the cell is conected when something happens, another molicule is activated that is attached to another ect ect which moves along another molecule to creat directed motion.
Any of you guys arguing for inteligent design are stupid, well lets be fair its not you its the idea of inteligent design that is stupid and you just follow it like sheep as it is the only way you can hang on to the idea that God is real. you obviosly know nothing about cell biology.
They know what they do because the Creator tell them to move here and threre. Without a Creator they will move where they please and will make a chaos, just like those people who want to do what they please and not to please God the Creator. God so love you with passion, that He sent Jesus to die for you, to save you from your sins.
I am amazed at the level of hatred people have for a disagreement. This video did not 'F' bomb Dawkins, or Hitchens or the people who believe life spontaneously erupted ex-nihilo from random chance. There is room for an intellectual discussion over such anissue as the orgin of life in this universe. A Huxley: "God interferes with our sexual impulses--that is why we reject him; We don't know because we don't want to know." I bet those are the biggest reasons for the hatred and rejection of God.
How does the RNA reach the Nuclear Pore Complex? Is it attracted to it electromagnetically? Is it similar to a ball with holes on the side in which the RNA simply falls out from? Thanks.
Creation bs. Why don't yall talk about androgenous retro virus's... ohh thats right you can't fit them into the creation model so you act like they don't exist! You jerks, its sad that yall try and make science look as if it supports creation. You lie to push your preconcieved notions. You should be ashamed.
@yodeboubtripin except the text from the beggining and ending(which is pro-creationist),the video is really interesting and well made and neutral (also helps me visulize what im learning for my biology semestrial paper) so its ok by me,lol.
You heard people say- "it will never be found", "it ain't true", "it just can't be".
I'm here to tell you these People are WRONG- I found it. Using Google Earth -
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@Iruini626 The discovery institute is an organization bent on proving intelligent design and disproving evolution. This is an ad for a creationist book.
i hate how there's so many comments from ignorant atheist and so-called christians arguing back and forth with both sides just presenting biased opinions. Come on people wake up to the truth.
It looks like these people just copied a biology textbook. This video does not make any claims or assertions linked to intelligent design, but the description insists that it's evidence for it. I don't see the relation between the process of protein construction and any sort of divine inspiration, sorry.
@XxAeronautxX If you wish to believe nothing created the DNA helix then go ahead because that is much worse than Dawkins assertions that equate theists with believing in flying unicorns and the like. The issues that stem from a creator or lack therof need to be explored and debated. The 20th century is full of social darwinisim at work. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol-Pot, Lenin and the hands and feet of these monsters who put 100 million people in the grave were all faithful disciples of Charlie "D."
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY I don't think nothing created it, it was the non-random selection of random traits over millions of years. I think that Dawkin's assertion is logical but irrelevant given that few theists would let the argument stir them. The main point of my comment was I was really hoping this video would give SOMETHING to consider, but with no mention of a creator it's difficult to connect. All it does is describe a biological process. Yay?
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY I refuse to sink so low as to associate the majority of a group to a psychopathic minority, as it's ridiculous and we could go all day saying "this theist did this" and "this atheist did that." The bottom line is I am not them and my morality is not dictated by my "religion" (for lack of a better word) but by my experience, as is yours and I would never say for example since Anders Brevig was a murderous pshyco who happened to be religious that you are also like him.
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY Hitler was a creationist and a christian who admired Martin Luther and Luther's book "On the Jews and Their lies."
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
@sabertooth1980 Actually the veneer is the ambiguous reasoning for why the cells act the way they do, the fundamentals are still science. Thank you though for showing your prejudice.
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@IDtaksovr That would be interesting: one shred of evidence attributed to "ID" that could not be explained otherwise. Too bad ID makes no falsifiable claims for which evidence could be compared...junk, woo, pseudoscience!
Hi Jeffrey. Nice to hear from you. While I am certainly enthusiastic about promoting ID, the relentless discovery of life's unfathomable complexity is by far the best advert. Simulations of biochemical machines have rendered the blundering Darwinian process utterly bereft of plausibility.I have little doubt that all but the most ardent materialists will be dragged, kicking and screaming towards the recognition of detectable purpose and design in our universe.
@IDtaksovr - I should have gotten back to you sooner. Glad to see you are still active on Youtube!
I'm surprised to see that you are from the UK, from what I know there must be a lot more critics to deal with there than in the US.
I guess you could consider me one of the underground intellectual insurgents that is in favor of this kind of thinking. Hence the alias. There is a project at hand that I'm working on that requires multiple assistants who are familiar with online debate. I'll PM...
@IDtaksovr -...you the details by the end of this week. I'll have to check out some of your vids in the meantime as well as the arguments that ensued. It's been a while since I did any of this under a slightly different alias on one prominent ID critic's blog.
"By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible." -Heb. 11:3
With this video it confirms how well we are designed. Everything its so well organized, even the invisible things knows what to do in order to make sure our body works properly. If there is creation there must be a Creator. Nothing can make things possible, because nothing or something can't create anything, but someone can, God.
@bypassthelaw Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim.
@llrrty7r The only silver that you know about is stuck between my teeth, I think it is in my tooth fillings.
I do not care if you do not believe me. I do even care if the whole world does not believe me. No one believed that handphone was a marketable product, it is today an essential product.
As fascinating as it all may seem, it's utter useless information. In fact, it's a disgrace to humanity.
Scientists are wasting money on research for this garbage that could be going to things like "discovering and preventing the CAUSES of cancer".
Furthermore, videos like this are put out by the Globalists and Eugenics collabs to implement "Divide and Conquer" amongst the sheeple who can't get enough of flaming each other over science vs religion.
@izlude2 Amen to that. Even more, researches should be using that money in researching alternative energy solutions. Oil is probably the worst thing out there, nuclear power is just as bad. Hydrogen is the best solution, all you have to do is add chlorophyll compounds and it becomes a non-explosive gas that powers hydrogen cells. The globalists probably don't want that because oil is their main war agenda. Poor Gadaffi... :(
@izlude2 but scientists have to know where and what gene they have to locate, how to prevent it etc. Therefore they have to know things like this, how the cell functions, how the body functions, which gene does what and the most important one: how can we see if a fetus has the cancer gene?
I am a student myself, which loves chemistry and biology, and knowing things like this is a major thing that will help docters and scientists find a cure for cancer.
@solveigmujkic also i do not think that the entire Youtube is a consparicy for war. Science is science, it is somehting we know exists, it is the fundament in our human lifes. Religion is religion, it gives people a sense of what life is about, what the meaning with life is.
@izlude2 There are clever people and there are stupid people. There are hardworking guys who get the blame and there re the useless lazy good for nothing who does nothing is is blameless. IF you have nothing to do. go and do your nothing one some other site. If you have nothing productive to say, Shut your Trap.
It is people like you that stands in the way of progress, You are a RETARD?
There are clever people and there are stupid people. There are hardworking guys who get the blame and there re the useless lazy good for nothing who does nothing is is blameless. IF you have nothing to do. go and do your nothing one some other site. If you have nothing productive to say, Shut your Trap.
It is people like you that stands in the way of progress, You are a RETARD?
@izlude2 How is this useless? I'm not a biologist or anything but I guess it's very important to know how cells and DNA work to be able to prevent cancer, since cancer in fact happens when the copying of DNA goes wrong. Or something like that. As I said, I'm not a biologist
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In the beginning (time) God created the Heaven (space) and the Earth (matter).Gen 1:1 Keep in mind how long ago this was written. For those not willing to deal with the original question in the beginning of this video heres a bit of help: information comes from an intelligent sender, God who is outside time, space, and matter but involved in it. i can prove God exists, all believe Jesus existeded and in Him is all the proof you need. Turn from your sins and turn your trust to Jesus and the cross
Earning a PhD in molecular biology. Been studying this stuff in detail for many years now. Never once have I seen any indication that it is a sign of intelligent design. Far from it. I can see how it all would arise through evolution. In fact, you can trace the changing complexity of these systems clear back to bacteria.
List a bunch of scientific facts, claim god did it... Fail...
@Plur307 That claim to authority means nothing. But since you want to use the claim to authority fallacy I will use a two of my own. Issac Newton or even Einstein they would laughed your logic right out of their office. The most perverse development in modern philosophy was the invention of the argument that you do not have to prove a negative which was developed after Darwin. You, like Huxley reject God because you want your freedom. "We don't know because we don't want to know." Rm 1:22
I learned this my junior year of high school. We have DNA, therefore God. It's all so simple, I can't believe I didn't see it. Get this shit off the front page of youtube.
@jordanthehunn The discovery institute is funded by right wing christians to promote intelligent design as legitimate science even though it got absolutely crushed in the peer review process. While this video is a depiction of protein synthesis, pay attention at the end of the video where they say "Discover the DNA evidence for intelligent design" - these people are simply frauds that are trying to mislead the public by mixing real science with their religious agenda.
@Aetrion Your peer review process consists of an academy of God hating evolutionists who have wormed their way into power in the modern academy over the past 60 years. Yes, it can be said that it is religious agenda because of God. The dearth of ideas, meaning, purpose in the modern academy can be traced directly to Darwin and his disciples over the past 150 years and it is only getting worse. Your track record is not in facts but death.
@streetcornerprophet Seriously? You're freaking typing this on a computer that is 100% a product of science, derived by the exact same process of empirical fact finding that doesn't recognize Intelligent Design. You can't just act like every time scientists come up with a result that conflicts with your world view there is a grand conspiracy at work while at the sime time enjoying the huge benefits of science to society whenever it doesn't. That's just total hypocrisy.
@Aetrion Seriously! You’re typing this on a computer that's 100% a product of intelligent thought distinct from the mediums and materials used. The processes you use are 100% every time intelligent designed, from conception to finished product. Because of 80 years of intelligently designed scientifically executed brainwashing factories called schools and universities you are quite unaware of how you’ve been deceived and, as expected, you fight against the truth, having set yourself against God.
@gaseti How come scientists from cultures that don't even believe in your god have the exact same findings that those who supposedly are brainwashed? The reason is simple, it's because science isn't a grand conspiracy.
For that matter, look at all the countries that reject science, that purge intellectuals and hammer religion into peoples heads. Oops, that's all those middle eastern and african countries that still exists in the dark ages, kind of like europe when christians were in charge.
@Aetrion You are seriously deluded. I don't know any Christians that don't believe in science. Evolution is not science. Sorry buddy, it just isn't no matter how much Dawkins and the rest scream it is. You don't have to believe in God to study real science or do real scence. I believe you do have to be have a somewhat self imposed blind spot to not see the evidence for God and intelligent design the deeper you study science.
@Aetrion Concensus is not conspiracy. The belief that nothing created the universe (random chance) is not science but religion. Claiming agnosticisim in this is a 'cop-out.' Then to turn around and mock those who openly believe in God as creator is the essence of hypocrisy. The search for a vaccine to cure polio was not predicated on evolutionary theory but real science in action. Intellectual's who claim agnosticisim in the formation of the universe but block theistic dicsussion is hypocrisy.
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY Huh what? No scientist claims that nothing created the universe, all that scientists say is that they don't know what created the universe. Also, evolution has nothing to do with the origin of the universe or the origin of life, all it is is an explanation for the diversity of life.
Also religion is NOT a valid point of discussion for the formation of the universe. All it is is making up a magical explanation, then trying to get people to acknowledge it's true.
@Aetrion If a scientist does not know what created the universe then how can you say God was not part of it? Also, evolution is predicated on a naturalistic cause of the Universe so it is an admission by default that random chance or (nothing) is the father of us all. You cannot have it both ways.
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY First of all, not knowing doesn't mean you can say with certainty that your creation myth applies unless you can create a valid test if it's true.
Secondly, believing in a naturalistic "cause" to the universe doesn't mean saying it came from nothing. Do you know the true nature of the universe? How can you be certain that the universe needs one? What if there are parts of the universe that are unfathomable by us humans that are eternal or outside of causality?
No I'm not curious enough to really want to see how people with absolute beliefs conduct scientific study. Yes it's complex stuff, however that does not mean it was designed. This view has no relevance or any type of value for advancement of understanding further the mechanisms of life nor has it ever or likely will it.
@emanemos1 Its people like you that just take the cake. You state something as if it is fact, a fact that everyone knows or should know. And yet you're completely wrong. Actually it was the believe in God that first advanced science and later it was the anti-belief against God that pushed further in studies of science. In fact the advances of the anti-religous scientists have consistently backed the initial statements of the Bible. Its all so very frustrating for the atheists.
@little8r07h3r Aristotle did not have much to do with science per se, at least not as we understand science today. Certainly logic led to critical thinking, but scientific understanding came after the middle ages. There were many critical thinkers in many ages before the age of science, but why is it they never reached the level of science? Really why do you guys continue to spew verbage that proves you don't really know what you're talking about.
@gaseti I like you. You keep your ideals safe by twisting your perception around to ignore what other people say. And then you turn on the flip side, retorting with folly and balderdash. I'm pretty sure there was a prophet or two in the Old Testament that skinned your kind alive and then burnt your body with fire.
@little8r07h3r Did you find your daddy's dictionary? Actually Old Testament prophets wouldn't have killed anyone, I can only think of two that killed anyone. They certainly would not have skinned anyone or burnt anyone with fire. You really just make stuff up all of the time, probably because you are so ignorant of true facts. Most of the comments about science just prove a total lack of understanding of true science. Probably makes the brainwashers feel quite satisfied with a job well done.
@gaseti Is your definition of true science based around Christian ideologies? If so, are you using the Catholic version, or does the Protestant mindset more suit your belief system?
Personally, I think you're Protestant on account of the fact that you seem to enjoy twisting biblical truths to fit scientific observations. Catholics tend to be more conservative and (as seen in the Spanish Inquisition) more prone to torture and kill their political and religious opponents instead of jabbering off.
@little8r07h3r Twisting facts? Ah, but arguing from science will never persuade for believing God. This is a weird generation, arguing about the existence of God when most of the generations of past for 5000 years could readily agree in that existence but argued over His or their nature. In the end some minds seek wisdom or reason and others signs or power, but God has confounded both because the gospel is the wisdom and power of God unto salvation for everyone that believes.
@gaseti Who's arguing about the existence of God? All we're muttering about here is the Christian supremacy and origin of "true science", whatever that means, that you keep on asserting.
Science relies on imagination, and the idea of God lies heavily on the imagination. It's not stupid to assume that science has been pushed by the idea of God. However, it's also not the only factor in the growth of science. To believe that the idea of God is a major factor is to delude yourself further.
@emanemos1 Nan nan, shut up. What are you like 12 years old? You problem can't even understand what grownups are talking about. Run along now, go outside and play.
All arguments for ID were blown away in Kitzmiller vs Dover. Nova has an excellent documentary on the case that buried Creationism/ID for the time being. ID will morph into something new, but genetics is way ahead of anyhting the ID banch can come up with. It's check mate for ID. All non-Africans have 4 percent of their DNA from Neanderthals. Genetic engineering has confirmed this.
@fenx1200 That is total nonsense: The Dover case boiled down to one thing for the judge: It would open the for for theistic discussion in a classroom. Nova never repoorted the judge acknowlegding the validity of Behe's arguments. Second, neanderthals were not any type of evolutionary ancesters and your own side has basically falsified the idea that neanderthals are part of that tree with the legitimate problems that they pose in evolutionary theory.
@IcySkeptic So is irreligion. The belief that nothing created the universe. The belief that random chaos just created all the perfection we see and to attribute it to 'Father Nothing.'
Most mechanisms have irreducible complexity. This means that were any single component missing, it would then have lost all functionility. Consider the simple protien and the exact ordering of its acid chain to perform its opertion. Consider the all together different molecular machines (hundreds) and the irreducible complexity within their arrangements. Organisms are effectively machines with one subassembly within another, and another, all working orderly and harmoniously. Random chance? No.
ID isn't even a hypothesis much less a theory. You need to build a hypothesis on things you know to exist or can demonstrate. That is why there are hypothesis for the origin of the universe built on quantum fluctuations. We know and can demonstrate it. When DI can demonstrate an intelligent designer manifests with some kind of repeatability, then they can build a hypothesis on it. Until then they're replacing an unknown with an unknown. This is not science, but darkness. God=fail.
@knethrea If this were true: " You need to build a hypothesis on things you know to exist or can demonstrate." then Evolution would have been discarded.
Every attempted explanation of Origins is belief-based in nature.
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 We can observe changes from generation to generation. We can apply environmental pressures in experiments to demonstrate natural selection. We can demonstrate the basic foundation of evolution and we've demonstrated that it is possible for life to emerge through purely natural means. The RNA world view is a valid hypothesis because we've demonstrated it in a lab using forces we know to exist. Name a magical prayer that produces RNA with 100% repeatability. DI/ID fails.
@knethrea You are equivocating natural selection with evolution. Please, understand that words are different because they have exclusive meanings. Also, you wrote, "we've demonstrated that it is possible for life to emerge through purely natural means". Please, reference this because I believe you are 100 percent wrong.
@knethrea: the DNA system is an encoding-decoding system and an information compression, storage, and retrieval system. Every organism is a decoded/decompressed result of the information in their DNA. How's that for repeatability? All such systems whose origins are known (the jpeg image compression algorithm, for example) are the result of intelligent design (i.e., us). It is, therefore, a logical assumption that the DNA system (whose origin is unknown) is also the result of intelligent design.
@webduncetv So is the brain of a chimp and the the brain sculpted by natural selection over a short million that engineered computer and discovered logarithms to extract compressed information from naturally occurring sand dunes. You seem to imply that natural selection couldn't produce encoding-decoding/compression, storage, when it has already demonstrated that it can by directing life to produce intelligence. Imagine an entire ocean with uncountable reproducing RNA over a period of 1 billion.
@knethrea and "imagine" is all you can do with that ocean of RNA. And all you can do is believe that billions of years of chance and physical laws somehow created the human brain. You can not observe nor empirically demonstrate any such thing. You believe ocean of RNA + blind chance + billions of years = human brain. I believe the God of the Bible created the human brain. Neither of these beliefs can be observed nor repeated in some experiments. They are both, therefore, faiths.
@knethrea What compressed information is in a sand dune? Does a sand dune encode for something that's not a sand dune? See, a jpeg file is not an image. It's compressed information from which we can create an image. A sand dune is just that: a sand dune. But DNA is not an organism but encodes an organism. The DNA of a single human cell contains all the information necessary to create the entire human being (including the brain). That is extreme compression of information.
@webduncetv Let's talk about the "Designers". How did they come to exist? Were they designed or a result of physical laws from wherever they come from. Life is not the result of chance nor magic, but was directed by physical laws that are demonstrable and do not need the help of some elusive designer that every attempt to demonstrate has failed. Produce knowledge that a designer exists, direct the designer to manifest under controlled conditions, then you can hypothesize.
@knethrea, the origin of life is neither observable nor repeatable. ALL ideas about life's origins are, therefore, ideas of faith and not of science.
If the physical world was created, it logically follows that the Creator is NOT that physical world. The senses can detect only the physical world.
I am using logic (not hypothesizing): ALL encoding systems whose origins are known were created. DNA is an encoding system. Therefore, it seems far more likely than not that DNA was created.
All messenging systems whose origins are known (WOAK) were created. DNA is has a messenging system (mRNA). Therefore, DNA was created.
All tool manufacturing plants WOAK were created. DNA is part of a tool manufacturing plant (enzymes are tools). Therefore, DNA was created.
All information compression systems WOAK were created. DNA is an information compression system (an organism is larger and more complex than the DNA that encodes it). Therefore, DNA was created
When somebody says 'GOD', the first image or picture that comes in your mind is not of 'GOD'.We can't imagine HIM. What's with the whole monkey thing??????????
This video is amazing, a bit fast on the commentary but the information provided was amazingly accurate and entertaining, great marketing communication skills.
@Muaythai81 Well evolution is true because Darwin sold the idea with no corollaries to actual findings in his day. 150 yrs later it is still the same. Darwin codified what evolutionists believed all over the world in a very good essay minus facts to back it up and the facts are still missing. In a debate any objective observer will at once see that both sides fight themselves to a standstill. A tie in this instance is a loss for your side. That is why your side lacks the courage to debate equals
I am disturbed by people arguing wether god does or does not existed. If someone told me god did exist then I will ask him "What was your experiment that proved that statement?" If some tells me god does not exist then I ask "Okay mister know it all. What is your proof that he doesn't exist? If you say that god doesn't exist then you are stating that you know everything in the univiser....so...by logical reasoning you think you are god since you know everything. o sorry! An intelligent designer"
Simpler RNA based life evolved first.
then it evolved the more complex DNA based machinery.
the only 'designer' is the giant computer we call the universe
walter0bz 2 days ago
I got here from DBZ by watching Perfect Cell videos xD
TobiasWins4 1 week ago
Fascinating!
iridescent15 1 week ago
Who could say for certain that we or any other species out there would certainly not be able to travel to other planets? Only those who believe that our current theories on physics cannot definitively be wrong in regards to space travel! This is not very wise and not realistic knowing that our progress have known multiple science revolutions that have people thinking this or that was impossible in view of the theories of the moment.
mletouutube 2 weeks ago
Disable voting??
EdyMar77 2 weeks ago
The universe as it relates to conscious life can be understood now. It is the ultimate truth; the truth that will transform mankind and the world.
The truth is the only thing that can? unite all human beings. It is what we all have in common, and that will never change.
Google 'Truth Contest' and open the entry called 'The Present'.
jzs1501 2 weeks ago
im half way through his book and i understand now what the discovery has been ie, there is no known laws that can account for the arrangement of base pairs, ie they are not arranged due to chemical attraction/bonding laws or whatever but due to (what has to be i guess?) some exogenous source, i think its cool how hes not drawing conclusions from this but is allowing the reader to draw their own conclusions (though havnt finished it yet)
dionstrezlecki 3 weeks ago
@dionstrezlecki
evolution accounts for the arrangement of base pairs.
rddaos 1 week ago
God video, informative, educational. But it did not provide any evidence for intelligent design.
OptimalElement 1 month ago
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TheNightsMoon 1 month ago
@OptimalElement ?? Think information. Information? Where did it come from? That's the arguement. Intelligent Design asserts that information is a product of mind. Now think about information at the scale of the UNIVERSE.All of matter and energy can be reduced down to information that can be rationally explained.We observe patterns in the universe and develop laws helping to further make sense of the univese.Do you get it now? Or are you playing dumb on purpose?Think, Big picture.
chris7777777777777 4 weeks ago
@chris7777777777777
first define ''information''
OptimalElement 4 weeks ago
@chris7777777777777
there's simply no good reason to believe in god
rddaos 1 week ago
@OptimalElement Dawkins seems to think it provides enough evidence for some kind of "design", just not a designer like God. According to Dawkins, he thinks intelligent extraplanetary life forms (aliens) seeded the earth with life as we know it.
Isabeau000 2 weeks ago
@Isabeau000
No he doesn't think that. Your just misrepresenting what he said in the film ''expelled''. He said IF some aliens planted life here then those aliens themselves must have somehow came into existence by natural means. But there is no evidence aliens did placed life here. There are many reason but most strong one is that they would not have the energy or resources to get to our solar system in the fist places.
OptimalElement 2 weeks ago
@Isabeau000
dawkins doesnt believe that, and never said that. you need to go back and re-read what he actually said
rddaos 1 week ago
One thing that remains unexplained is how these various elements move around or seem to be swimming to another site seeing how they are only small groups of atoms at this small a level. Is all this done by chemical reorientations of atoms therein? Seems the swimming would be difficult via that action.
leadman22 1 month ago
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A question for the ID proponent.
If something is so complex that it must require a designer (which I understand is the basic tenet of ID), and the example of, say, DNA is used to make the point, then there must also exist something so simple that it DOESN`T require a designer. If there isn`t such simplicity, then the word complex has no meaning, because everything then is complex, and therefore everything requires a designer. It`s circular.
So, challenge: Give an example of such simplicity.
RationalThinker1859 1 month ago
@RationalThinker1859 - Sand dunes.
JeffreyHelix 4 weeks ago
@JeffreyHelix Not really valid, as all ID complexity claims regard living things. The challenge is to give an example of simplicity in living matter. Otherwise, all living things are complex, and complexity requires a designer; a fully sealed and self-contained circular argument with no explanatory power.
RationalThinker1859 3 weeks ago
@RationalThinker1859 - So does anything else.
JeffreyHelix 2 weeks ago
@JeffreyHelix So does anything else what?
RationalThinker1859 2 weeks ago
Transatlantic, why does it have to be one or the other, of course there's evolution, it's like republican vs democrat, everybody arguing back and forth while the banks rob us blind. Divide and conquer.... We' all have our opinions, I just don't understand how somebody can watch DNA replicate and not see that it is a biological machine
carlosZ1981 1 month ago 10
@carlosZ1981
the thing is that there's no evidence of god.
rddaos 1 week ago
@carlosZ1981 evolution is a myth same as god. when watching the video, for me it's obvious that we have been created by intelligent creators, scientific civilization from space. it makes much more sense than the theory of god or evolution. thank you
kasyo00 1 week ago
@kasyo00 any evidence to back that up? cause i have plenty of evidence that proves evolution as fact. but i am sure that you do not want to look at the actual evidence and instead find it easier to believe that 'god did it'. really, why do you believe a book written thousands of years ago by primitive people rather than the scientific evidence that we can actually prove to be true? its insane and it shows that you dont care, you just want to believe what you want to believe.
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@loveitoutdoors
One thing creates another, another thing creates another and so on. So tell me at what point something was not created, at what point it was by chance?
chafish 1 month ago
*murderer
carlosZ1981 1 month ago
There's obviously something driving/instructing the cell to survive, thrive and adapt and grow. If it was all just random and accidental, why would it give a shit? It wants to sustain life. People get caught up in the whole "god thing", when it has nothing to do with it, we're just pointing out evidence of intent and intelligence. It would be like if ur a coroner and said this person didn't die by accident, it was clearly murder, and atheist say " well then who's the murder?" how should I know
carlosZ1981 1 month ago
@carlosZ1981
So...how do you explain Plant speciation by means of random mutation and natural selection, w/out using evolution theory?
transtlantic 1 month ago
There's nothing intelligent about intelligent design.
Task5003 1 month ago
@Task5003 im going to make that into a t-shirt
wyrmthelaughingman 1 month ago in playlist Favorite videos
@Task5003 - There's nothing assertive about proof by assertion.
JeffreyHelix 4 weeks ago
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Task5003 1 month ago
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before you use an argument you dont know anything about to support a point you have no evidence for and cant logically use evidence to support you should do some proper research. although i dont think God would be happy with you as that would mean you dont trust your faith.
loveitoutdoors 1 month ago
things dont move in a directed way on there own. im sorry to tell you the movie is just not detailed enough to show everything going on. everything in the cell is conected when something happens, another molicule is activated that is attached to another ect ect which moves along another molecule to creat directed motion.
loveitoutdoors 1 month ago
Any of you guys arguing for inteligent design are stupid, well lets be fair its not you its the idea of inteligent design that is stupid and you just follow it like sheep as it is the only way you can hang on to the idea that God is real. you obviosly know nothing about cell biology.
loveitoutdoors 1 month ago
@loveitoutdoors - Learn to spell and you will become more persuasive.
JeffreyHelix 4 weeks ago
They know what they do because the Creator tell them to move here and threre. Without a Creator they will move where they please and will make a chaos, just like those people who want to do what they please and not to please God the Creator. God so love you with passion, that He sent Jesus to die for you, to save you from your sins.
chafish 1 month ago
Arguing online is like screaming at Helen Keller.
Cdouglas0906 2 months ago 2
I am amazed at the level of hatred people have for a disagreement. This video did not 'F' bomb Dawkins, or Hitchens or the people who believe life spontaneously erupted ex-nihilo from random chance. There is room for an intellectual discussion over such anissue as the orgin of life in this universe. A Huxley: "God interferes with our sexual impulses--that is why we reject him; We don't know because we don't want to know." I bet those are the biggest reasons for the hatred and rejection of God.
streetcornerprophet 2 months ago
who would've thought the human body was made up of trillions of tiny factories?
robdixon79 2 months ago 7
@robdixon79 Darwin sure didnt think that. He believe the cell to be a tiny blob of jelly.
chris7777777777777 4 weeks ago
@yipyipyibyib Why would I do that? Your cupcake is made from creationists. Now, let's throw a party!
sabertooth1980 2 months ago
How does the RNA reach the Nuclear Pore Complex? Is it attracted to it electromagnetically? Is it similar to a ball with holes on the side in which the RNA simply falls out from? Thanks.
MikeRoePhonicsMusic 2 months ago
This is so interesting!!
VigoJoeJoe 2 months ago
Creation bs. Why don't yall talk about androgenous retro virus's... ohh thats right you can't fit them into the creation model so you act like they don't exist! You jerks, its sad that yall try and make science look as if it supports creation. You lie to push your preconcieved notions. You should be ashamed.
yodeboubtripin 2 months ago
@yodeboubtripin except the text from the beggining and ending(which is pro-creationist),the video is really interesting and well made and neutral (also helps me visulize what im learning for my biology semestrial paper) so its ok by me,lol.
beastclaw33 2 months ago
haha i watched this in science today and now its on the home page!
Brennie4HOCKEY 2 months ago
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You heard people say- "it will never be found", "it ain't true", "it just can't be".
I'm here to tell you these People are WRONG- I found it. Using Google Earth -
I found God's Watermarks of the REAL Garden of Eden. Look at my Channel and see the Video I made of it. I didn't point all of it out either- there are many things still hid for you to find. Come see.
downyourtube 2 months ago
The words in this video are meant to deceive
sabertooth1980 2 months ago
this is so interesting...
IF I GAVE A SHIT!!!
mattwins18 2 months ago
@mattwins18 You will when the end of your existance you so blindly took for granted is up.
Kingyeshuaswitness 2 months ago
@Kingyeshuaswitness go back to your books NERD lol
mattwins18 2 months ago
How does a creationist video get on the front page of the science section?
zeektheawesome 2 months ago
@zeektheawesome isn't this simple biology? It IS science right? =o
Iruini626 2 months ago
@Iruini626 The discovery institute is an organization bent on proving intelligent design and disproving evolution. This is an ad for a creationist book.
zeektheawesome 2 months ago
Oh hell no!
I just got learned!?
FUCK YOU DISCOVERY!
twitchster77 2 months ago
i hate how there's so many comments from ignorant atheist and so-called christians arguing back and forth with both sides just presenting biased opinions. Come on people wake up to the truth.
Jape670 2 months ago
It looks like these people just copied a biology textbook. This video does not make any claims or assertions linked to intelligent design, but the description insists that it's evidence for it. I don't see the relation between the process of protein construction and any sort of divine inspiration, sorry.
XxAeronautxX 2 months ago
@XxAeronautxX If you wish to believe nothing created the DNA helix then go ahead because that is much worse than Dawkins assertions that equate theists with believing in flying unicorns and the like. The issues that stem from a creator or lack therof need to be explored and debated. The 20th century is full of social darwinisim at work. Hitler, Mao, Stalin, Pol-Pot, Lenin and the hands and feet of these monsters who put 100 million people in the grave were all faithful disciples of Charlie "D."
OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY 2 months ago
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY I don't think nothing created it, it was the non-random selection of random traits over millions of years. I think that Dawkin's assertion is logical but irrelevant given that few theists would let the argument stir them. The main point of my comment was I was really hoping this video would give SOMETHING to consider, but with no mention of a creator it's difficult to connect. All it does is describe a biological process. Yay?
XxAeronautxX 2 months ago
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY I refuse to sink so low as to associate the majority of a group to a psychopathic minority, as it's ridiculous and we could go all day saying "this theist did this" and "this atheist did that." The bottom line is I am not them and my morality is not dictated by my "religion" (for lack of a better word) but by my experience, as is yours and I would never say for example since Anders Brevig was a murderous pshyco who happened to be religious that you are also like him.
XxAeronautxX 2 months ago
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY Hitler was a creationist and a christian who admired Martin Luther and Luther's book "On the Jews and Their lies."
"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the work of the Lord." -Adolf Hitler (Mein Kampf)
knethrea 2 months ago
whyy is this in the front pagee?? -_-
RaMoSs40 2 months ago 8
@RaMoSs40 Why is it under "Science and Technology"? Somebody put this under comedy where it belongs.
Dracorex13 2 months ago
@RaMoSs40 are you kidding?
thetastything 2 months ago
@thetastything well it was posted 2 years ago
prodigyJavy61904 2 months ago
@RaMoSs40 because its under science and this is a scientific video... why else
RealFngDeal 2 months ago 2
@RealFngDeal This isn't a scientific video. It is a creationist video with a veneer of science added to it to make appear like science.
sabertooth1980 2 months ago
@sabertooth1980 Actually the veneer is the ambiguous reasoning for why the cells act the way they do, the fundamentals are still science. Thank you though for showing your prejudice.
RealFngDeal 2 months ago
WTF!!
carsguitarswomen 2 months ago
poop
MysteriousPaprBagMan 2 months ago
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Americunt4gay 2 months ago
Oh Dear! Not MORE evidence for Gods existence. Darwinists need to stop censoring ID proponents, and start censoring the EVIDENCE for ID.
IDtaksovr 2 months ago
@IDtaksovr That would be interesting: one shred of evidence attributed to "ID" that could not be explained otherwise. Too bad ID makes no falsifiable claims for which evidence could be compared...junk, woo, pseudoscience!
Hammurabanon 2 months ago
@IDtaksovr - Please message me when you get the chance.
JeffreyHelix 4 weeks ago
@JeffreyHelix
Hi Jeffrey. Nice to hear from you. While I am certainly enthusiastic about promoting ID, the relentless discovery of life's unfathomable complexity is by far the best advert. Simulations of biochemical machines have rendered the blundering Darwinian process utterly bereft of plausibility.I have little doubt that all but the most ardent materialists will be dragged, kicking and screaming towards the recognition of detectable purpose and design in our universe.
IDtaksovr 3 weeks ago
@IDtaksovr - I should have gotten back to you sooner. Glad to see you are still active on Youtube!
I'm surprised to see that you are from the UK, from what I know there must be a lot more critics to deal with there than in the US.
I guess you could consider me one of the underground intellectual insurgents that is in favor of this kind of thinking. Hence the alias. There is a project at hand that I'm working on that requires multiple assistants who are familiar with online debate. I'll PM...
JeffreyHelix 2 weeks ago
@IDtaksovr -...you the details by the end of this week. I'll have to check out some of your vids in the meantime as well as the arguments that ensued. It's been a while since I did any of this under a slightly different alias on one prominent ID critic's blog.
JeffreyHelix 2 weeks ago
but will it blend?
TheLeonSkottKennedy 2 months ago 14
"By faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that the things which are seen were not made of things which are visible." -Heb. 11:3
With this video it confirms how well we are designed. Everything its so well organized, even the invisible things knows what to do in order to make sure our body works properly. If there is creation there must be a Creator. Nothing can make things possible, because nothing or something can't create anything, but someone can, God.
chafish 2 months ago
@chafish so what the differnerence
glz1 2 months ago
@chafish "even the invisible things know what to do" never thought about it that way @chafish. fantastic! thankyou.
djsshare 1 month ago
fasciinating
beastclaw33 2 months ago
Colloidal silver is the cure for literally "EVERY" disease out there including HIV infection. Don't get colloidal silver confused with ionic silver.
The video of the man with the blue skin drank ionic silver then put himself in a tanning bed to make the blue skin permanent.
bypassthelaw 2 months ago
@bypassthelaw Colloidal silver isn't considered safe or effective for any of the health claims manufacturers make. Silver has no known purpose in the body. Nor is it an essential mineral, as some sellers of silver products claim.
llrrty7r 2 months ago
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@llrrty7r The only silver that you know about is stuck between my teeth, I think it is in my tooth fillings.
I do not care if you do not believe me. I do even care if the whole world does not believe me. No one believed that handphone was a marketable product, it is today an essential product.
DrPatrickTay 2 months ago
As fascinating as it all may seem, it's utter useless information. In fact, it's a disgrace to humanity.
Scientists are wasting money on research for this garbage that could be going to things like "discovering and preventing the CAUSES of cancer".
Furthermore, videos like this are put out by the Globalists and Eugenics collabs to implement "Divide and Conquer" amongst the sheeple who can't get enough of flaming each other over science vs religion.
Way to play into their hands sheeple.
izlude2 2 months ago
@izlude2 Amen to that. Even more, researches should be using that money in researching alternative energy solutions. Oil is probably the worst thing out there, nuclear power is just as bad. Hydrogen is the best solution, all you have to do is add chlorophyll compounds and it becomes a non-explosive gas that powers hydrogen cells. The globalists probably don't want that because oil is their main war agenda. Poor Gadaffi... :(
belartful 2 months ago
@izlude2 but scientists have to know where and what gene they have to locate, how to prevent it etc. Therefore they have to know things like this, how the cell functions, how the body functions, which gene does what and the most important one: how can we see if a fetus has the cancer gene?
I am a student myself, which loves chemistry and biology, and knowing things like this is a major thing that will help docters and scientists find a cure for cancer.
solveigmujkic 2 months ago
@solveigmujkic also i do not think that the entire Youtube is a consparicy for war. Science is science, it is somehting we know exists, it is the fundament in our human lifes. Religion is religion, it gives people a sense of what life is about, what the meaning with life is.
They are two completly different things.
solveigmujkic 2 months ago
@izlude2 There are clever people and there are stupid people. There are hardworking guys who get the blame and there re the useless lazy good for nothing who does nothing is is blameless. IF you have nothing to do. go and do your nothing one some other site. If you have nothing productive to say, Shut your Trap.
It is people like you that stands in the way of progress, You are a RETARD?
DrPatrickTay 2 months ago 2
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There are clever people and there are stupid people. There are hardworking guys who get the blame and there re the useless lazy good for nothing who does nothing is is blameless. IF you have nothing to do. go and do your nothing one some other site. If you have nothing productive to say, Shut your Trap.
It is people like you that stands in the way of progress, You are a RETARD?
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DrPatrickTay 2 months ago
@izlude2 How is this useless? I'm not a biologist or anything but I guess it's very important to know how cells and DNA work to be able to prevent cancer, since cancer in fact happens when the copying of DNA goes wrong. Or something like that. As I said, I'm not a biologist
IZuzivowoI 2 months ago
@izlude2 Wow you're stupid...
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jasyleen1 2 months ago
In the beginning (time) God created the Heaven (space) and the Earth (matter).Gen 1:1 Keep in mind how long ago this was written. For those not willing to deal with the original question in the beginning of this video heres a bit of help: information comes from an intelligent sender, God who is outside time, space, and matter but involved in it. i can prove God exists, all believe Jesus existeded and in Him is all the proof you need. Turn from your sins and turn your trust to Jesus and the cross
exeJesus 2 months ago
@exeJesus r u retarted?
barqs9 2 months ago
google whoisgoddotorg
qseanx 2 months ago
What he said was correct, but why would I buy an exotic book about it when any biological book shares the same detailed information?
IwdWb 2 months ago
Earning a PhD in molecular biology. Been studying this stuff in detail for many years now. Never once have I seen any indication that it is a sign of intelligent design. Far from it. I can see how it all would arise through evolution. In fact, you can trace the changing complexity of these systems clear back to bacteria.
List a bunch of scientific facts, claim god did it... Fail...
Plur307 2 months ago
@Plur307 That claim to authority means nothing. But since you want to use the claim to authority fallacy I will use a two of my own. Issac Newton or even Einstein they would laughed your logic right out of their office. The most perverse development in modern philosophy was the invention of the argument that you do not have to prove a negative which was developed after Darwin. You, like Huxley reject God because you want your freedom. "We don't know because we don't want to know." Rm 1:22
streetcornerprophet 2 months ago
creepy
zalxder 2 months ago
Hold up, why is this on youtube's homepage....and why is this on youtube's homepage under Education??
Omega5001x 2 months ago
ah....ugh im no nerd!
yvettellugo 2 months ago
gods work is truly amazing. :)
PrussiaToday 2 months ago
@PrussiaToday Yep, those starving African children and HIV are some of his best works... -_-
MrNDSteinbach 2 months ago
@PrussiaToday lol stupid beliefer
IwdWb 2 months ago
Man this is so complex, amazing!
LORDMETALMAN 2 months ago
The cellular machine is amazingly complex and yet beautiful.
imtxsmoke 2 months ago
I learned this my junior year of high school. We have DNA, therefore God. It's all so simple, I can't believe I didn't see it. Get this shit off the front page of youtube.
TheIronWaffleMan 2 months ago
WTF! What, man this shit is too complex for my monkey brain.
DjSuperK 2 months ago
yeah, it kind of got off topic. But it shows evidence of intelligent design so we got into religious talking.......
trymywords 2 months ago
what is all this religious talk?? it's just a video on DNA!
jordanthehunn 2 months ago
@jordanthehunn well if it wasnt the retards at the Discovery Institute i doubt there would be as many comments about religion.
backtosleepsheep 2 months ago
@jordanthehunn The discovery institute is funded by right wing christians to promote intelligent design as legitimate science even though it got absolutely crushed in the peer review process. While this video is a depiction of protein synthesis, pay attention at the end of the video where they say "Discover the DNA evidence for intelligent design" - these people are simply frauds that are trying to mislead the public by mixing real science with their religious agenda.
Aetrion 2 months ago
@Aetrion Your peer review process consists of an academy of God hating evolutionists who have wormed their way into power in the modern academy over the past 60 years. Yes, it can be said that it is religious agenda because of God. The dearth of ideas, meaning, purpose in the modern academy can be traced directly to Darwin and his disciples over the past 150 years and it is only getting worse. Your track record is not in facts but death.
streetcornerprophet 2 months ago
@streetcornerprophet Seriously? You're freaking typing this on a computer that is 100% a product of science, derived by the exact same process of empirical fact finding that doesn't recognize Intelligent Design. You can't just act like every time scientists come up with a result that conflicts with your world view there is a grand conspiracy at work while at the sime time enjoying the huge benefits of science to society whenever it doesn't. That's just total hypocrisy.
Aetrion 2 months ago
@Aetrion Seriously! You’re typing this on a computer that's 100% a product of intelligent thought distinct from the mediums and materials used. The processes you use are 100% every time intelligent designed, from conception to finished product. Because of 80 years of intelligently designed scientifically executed brainwashing factories called schools and universities you are quite unaware of how you’ve been deceived and, as expected, you fight against the truth, having set yourself against God.
gaseti 2 months ago
@gaseti How come scientists from cultures that don't even believe in your god have the exact same findings that those who supposedly are brainwashed? The reason is simple, it's because science isn't a grand conspiracy.
For that matter, look at all the countries that reject science, that purge intellectuals and hammer religion into peoples heads. Oops, that's all those middle eastern and african countries that still exists in the dark ages, kind of like europe when christians were in charge.
Aetrion 2 months ago
@Aetrion You are seriously deluded. I don't know any Christians that don't believe in science. Evolution is not science. Sorry buddy, it just isn't no matter how much Dawkins and the rest scream it is. You don't have to believe in God to study real science or do real scence. I believe you do have to be have a somewhat self imposed blind spot to not see the evidence for God and intelligent design the deeper you study science.
gaseti 2 months ago
@Aetrion Concensus is not conspiracy. The belief that nothing created the universe (random chance) is not science but religion. Claiming agnosticisim in this is a 'cop-out.' Then to turn around and mock those who openly believe in God as creator is the essence of hypocrisy. The search for a vaccine to cure polio was not predicated on evolutionary theory but real science in action. Intellectual's who claim agnosticisim in the formation of the universe but block theistic dicsussion is hypocrisy.
OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY 2 months ago
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY Huh what? No scientist claims that nothing created the universe, all that scientists say is that they don't know what created the universe. Also, evolution has nothing to do with the origin of the universe or the origin of life, all it is is an explanation for the diversity of life.
Also religion is NOT a valid point of discussion for the formation of the universe. All it is is making up a magical explanation, then trying to get people to acknowledge it's true.
Aetrion 2 months ago
@Aetrion If a scientist does not know what created the universe then how can you say God was not part of it? Also, evolution is predicated on a naturalistic cause of the Universe so it is an admission by default that random chance or (nothing) is the father of us all. You cannot have it both ways.
OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY 2 months ago
@OBSERVATIONSBYLENNY First of all, not knowing doesn't mean you can say with certainty that your creation myth applies unless you can create a valid test if it's true.
Secondly, believing in a naturalistic "cause" to the universe doesn't mean saying it came from nothing. Do you know the true nature of the universe? How can you be certain that the universe needs one? What if there are parts of the universe that are unfathomable by us humans that are eternal or outside of causality?
Aetrion 2 months ago
Amazing! Isn't God's creation wonderful? :]
FrackingSockCuckers 2 months ago
@FrackingSockCuckers Yep, HIV and the Bubonic Plague are some of his best creations. So wonderful...
MrNDSteinbach 2 months ago
niubility
GengYX 2 months ago
No I'm not curious enough to really want to see how people with absolute beliefs conduct scientific study. Yes it's complex stuff, however that does not mean it was designed. This view has no relevance or any type of value for advancement of understanding further the mechanisms of life nor has it ever or likely will it.
emanemos1 2 months ago
@emanemos1 Its people like you that just take the cake. You state something as if it is fact, a fact that everyone knows or should know. And yet you're completely wrong. Actually it was the believe in God that first advanced science and later it was the anti-belief against God that pushed further in studies of science. In fact the advances of the anti-religous scientists have consistently backed the initial statements of the Bible. Its all so very frustrating for the atheists.
gaseti 2 months ago
@gaseti Ah, I get it. Aristotle must have been a Jew! It all makes sense now.
little8r07h3r 2 months ago
@little8r07h3r Aristotle did not have much to do with science per se, at least not as we understand science today. Certainly logic led to critical thinking, but scientific understanding came after the middle ages. There were many critical thinkers in many ages before the age of science, but why is it they never reached the level of science? Really why do you guys continue to spew verbage that proves you don't really know what you're talking about.
gaseti 2 months ago
@gaseti I like you. You keep your ideals safe by twisting your perception around to ignore what other people say. And then you turn on the flip side, retorting with folly and balderdash. I'm pretty sure there was a prophet or two in the Old Testament that skinned your kind alive and then burnt your body with fire.
little8r07h3r 2 months ago
@little8r07h3r Did you find your daddy's dictionary? Actually Old Testament prophets wouldn't have killed anyone, I can only think of two that killed anyone. They certainly would not have skinned anyone or burnt anyone with fire. You really just make stuff up all of the time, probably because you are so ignorant of true facts. Most of the comments about science just prove a total lack of understanding of true science. Probably makes the brainwashers feel quite satisfied with a job well done.
gaseti 2 months ago
@gaseti Is your definition of true science based around Christian ideologies? If so, are you using the Catholic version, or does the Protestant mindset more suit your belief system?
Personally, I think you're Protestant on account of the fact that you seem to enjoy twisting biblical truths to fit scientific observations. Catholics tend to be more conservative and (as seen in the Spanish Inquisition) more prone to torture and kill their political and religious opponents instead of jabbering off.
little8r07h3r 2 months ago
@little8r07h3r Twisting facts? Ah, but arguing from science will never persuade for believing God. This is a weird generation, arguing about the existence of God when most of the generations of past for 5000 years could readily agree in that existence but argued over His or their nature. In the end some minds seek wisdom or reason and others signs or power, but God has confounded both because the gospel is the wisdom and power of God unto salvation for everyone that believes.
gaseti 2 months ago
@gaseti Who's arguing about the existence of God? All we're muttering about here is the Christian supremacy and origin of "true science", whatever that means, that you keep on asserting.
Science relies on imagination, and the idea of God lies heavily on the imagination. It's not stupid to assume that science has been pushed by the idea of God. However, it's also not the only factor in the growth of science. To believe that the idea of God is a major factor is to delude yourself further.
little8r07h3r 2 months ago
@gaseti Shut up you fu*king moron.
emanemos1 2 months ago
@emanemos1 Nan nan, shut up. What are you like 12 years old? You problem can't even understand what grownups are talking about. Run along now, go outside and play.
gaseti 2 months ago
All arguments for ID were blown away in Kitzmiller vs Dover. Nova has an excellent documentary on the case that buried Creationism/ID for the time being. ID will morph into something new, but genetics is way ahead of anyhting the ID banch can come up with. It's check mate for ID. All non-Africans have 4 percent of their DNA from Neanderthals. Genetic engineering has confirmed this.
fenx1200 2 months ago
@fenx1200 That is total nonsense: The Dover case boiled down to one thing for the judge: It would open the for for theistic discussion in a classroom. Nova never repoorted the judge acknowlegding the validity of Behe's arguments. Second, neanderthals were not any type of evolutionary ancesters and your own side has basically falsified the idea that neanderthals are part of that tree with the legitimate problems that they pose in evolutionary theory.
streetcornerprophet 2 months ago
Religion is stupid.
IcySkeptic 2 months ago
@IcySkeptic So is irreligion. The belief that nothing created the universe. The belief that random chaos just created all the perfection we see and to attribute it to 'Father Nothing.'
streetcornerprophet 2 months ago
@streetcornerprophet When did you get the impression that aleprechaunism is a belief that nothing created the universe?
I don't believe in Flying Spaghetti Monsters, UFOs, or religion.
IcySkeptic 2 months ago
@IcySkeptic just asking do you watch south park ? "Flying Spaghetti Monsters"
joshua95645 2 months ago
FAKEnGAY
freegaza93 2 months ago
Most mechanisms have irreducible complexity. This means that were any single component missing, it would then have lost all functionility. Consider the simple protien and the exact ordering of its acid chain to perform its opertion. Consider the all together different molecular machines (hundreds) and the irreducible complexity within their arrangements. Organisms are effectively machines with one subassembly within another, and another, all working orderly and harmoniously. Random chance? No.
Vossul 2 months ago
They forgot stuff.
TheNightsMoon 2 months ago
HOW THE HELL DID I GET HERE I WAS HIGH OR SOMETHING
zombiekillerof115 2 months ago 15
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therareone1 2 months ago
ID isn't even a hypothesis much less a theory. You need to build a hypothesis on things you know to exist or can demonstrate. That is why there are hypothesis for the origin of the universe built on quantum fluctuations. We know and can demonstrate it. When DI can demonstrate an intelligent designer manifests with some kind of repeatability, then they can build a hypothesis on it. Until then they're replacing an unknown with an unknown. This is not science, but darkness. God=fail.
knethrea 2 months ago
@knethrea If this were true: " You need to build a hypothesis on things you know to exist or can demonstrate." then Evolution would have been discarded.
Every attempted explanation of Origins is belief-based in nature.
Thisisnotmyrealname8 2 months ago
@Thisisnotmyrealname8 We can observe changes from generation to generation. We can apply environmental pressures in experiments to demonstrate natural selection. We can demonstrate the basic foundation of evolution and we've demonstrated that it is possible for life to emerge through purely natural means. The RNA world view is a valid hypothesis because we've demonstrated it in a lab using forces we know to exist. Name a magical prayer that produces RNA with 100% repeatability. DI/ID fails.
knethrea 2 months ago
@knethrea You are equivocating natural selection with evolution. Please, understand that words are different because they have exclusive meanings. Also, you wrote, "we've demonstrated that it is possible for life to emerge through purely natural means". Please, reference this because I believe you are 100 percent wrong.
Thisisnotmyrealname8 2 months ago
@knethrea: the DNA system is an encoding-decoding system and an information compression, storage, and retrieval system. Every organism is a decoded/decompressed result of the information in their DNA. How's that for repeatability? All such systems whose origins are known (the jpeg image compression algorithm, for example) are the result of intelligent design (i.e., us). It is, therefore, a logical assumption that the DNA system (whose origin is unknown) is also the result of intelligent design.
webduncetv 2 months ago
@webduncetv So is the brain of a chimp and the the brain sculpted by natural selection over a short million that engineered computer and discovered logarithms to extract compressed information from naturally occurring sand dunes. You seem to imply that natural selection couldn't produce encoding-decoding/compression, storage, when it has already demonstrated that it can by directing life to produce intelligence. Imagine an entire ocean with uncountable reproducing RNA over a period of 1 billion.
knethrea 2 months ago
@knethrea and "imagine" is all you can do with that ocean of RNA. And all you can do is believe that billions of years of chance and physical laws somehow created the human brain. You can not observe nor empirically demonstrate any such thing. You believe ocean of RNA + blind chance + billions of years = human brain. I believe the God of the Bible created the human brain. Neither of these beliefs can be observed nor repeated in some experiments. They are both, therefore, faiths.
webduncetv 2 months ago
@knethrea What compressed information is in a sand dune? Does a sand dune encode for something that's not a sand dune? See, a jpeg file is not an image. It's compressed information from which we can create an image. A sand dune is just that: a sand dune. But DNA is not an organism but encodes an organism. The DNA of a single human cell contains all the information necessary to create the entire human being (including the brain). That is extreme compression of information.
webduncetv 2 months ago
@webduncetv Let's talk about the "Designers". How did they come to exist? Were they designed or a result of physical laws from wherever they come from. Life is not the result of chance nor magic, but was directed by physical laws that are demonstrable and do not need the help of some elusive designer that every attempt to demonstrate has failed. Produce knowledge that a designer exists, direct the designer to manifest under controlled conditions, then you can hypothesize.
knethrea 2 months ago
@knethrea, the origin of life is neither observable nor repeatable. ALL ideas about life's origins are, therefore, ideas of faith and not of science.
If the physical world was created, it logically follows that the Creator is NOT that physical world. The senses can detect only the physical world.
I am using logic (not hypothesizing): ALL encoding systems whose origins are known were created. DNA is an encoding system. Therefore, it seems far more likely than not that DNA was created.
webduncetv 2 months ago
@knethrea (more examples)
All messenging systems whose origins are known (WOAK) were created. DNA is has a messenging system (mRNA). Therefore, DNA was created.
All tool manufacturing plants WOAK were created. DNA is part of a tool manufacturing plant (enzymes are tools). Therefore, DNA was created.
All information compression systems WOAK were created. DNA is an information compression system (an organism is larger and more complex than the DNA that encodes it). Therefore, DNA was created
webduncetv 2 months ago
I agree with YamiYami17. Quran also says 'had it been anyone besides ALLAH[GOD], they would have found much discrepancies''.GOD is challenging you to
find discrepancies in HIS book.
trymywords 2 months ago
wow, I'm learning this in 11th grade...
MrB00ks 2 months ago
When somebody says 'GOD', the first image or picture that comes in your mind is not of 'GOD'.We can't imagine HIM. What's with the whole monkey thing??????????
trymywords 2 months ago
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chicagobert018 2 months ago
The answer is simple 'GOD' is one. Absolute & eternal.He begets not nor is he begotten. There is nothing like him. i.e He is un created.
trymywords 2 months ago
@trymywords
The bible is true, because the bible says its true.
Seems legit to me.
Muaythai81 2 months ago
@Muaythai81 Well evolution is true because Darwin sold the idea with no corollaries to actual findings in his day. 150 yrs later it is still the same. Darwin codified what evolutionists believed all over the world in a very good essay minus facts to back it up and the facts are still missing. In a debate any objective observer will at once see that both sides fight themselves to a standstill. A tie in this instance is a loss for your side. That is why your side lacks the courage to debate equals
streetcornerprophet 2 months ago
@streetcornerprophet
Wow.... just wow... honestly man. Please don't breed and tell children this nonsense.
Muaythai81 2 months ago
I am disturbed by people arguing wether god does or does not existed. If someone told me god did exist then I will ask him "What was your experiment that proved that statement?" If some tells me god does not exist then I ask "Okay mister know it all. What is your proof that he doesn't exist? If you say that god doesn't exist then you are stating that you know everything in the univiser....so...by logical reasoning you think you are god since you know everything. o sorry! An intelligent designer"
DeadHappyFilm 2 months ago