In My opinion Frusciante is the best here. Mayer is an excellent guitarist, but he just likes to show off too much (as shown here), and Trucks is also very good. Frusciante emphasizes emotion and melod in his guitar playing. Like Frusciante said: Guitar playing isn't about playing a lot of notes (as Mayer states in this vid), it's about making sounds that are good. Frusciante can play a one note solo that sounds better then any of these guys' solos.
the thing is... frusciante can't keep up with John Mayer nor Derek Trucks (in last 4 mins) his rhythm guitar is OKAY and his solo is good and all, but he is no where near the leagues of the other two (atleast in blues). Plus his solo is poop compared to Derek Truck's slide solo. Anyone can copy Frusciante's solo, but no one can mimic Derek's tone with the slide.
@cheesicles You're right. Frusciante studied blues but he didn't play it a lot and I think these guys are a lot better in that category. I think Frusciante is untouchable in funk though and he is one of the better guitar players who emphasize melody. Seriously I hate comparing guitar players, it's like comparing chocolate bars. It all depends on someone's taste.
Frusciante's my favorite out of the three, not a huge john mayer fan, although he is still a respectable musician, and trucks is freaking awesome too :P. Dont know why so much hate is going on, its all based on preferences of what you like.
Why the guitarguments? They all play a different style and what you like is what you like. All three bring something but personal taste will account for the guitarist you will put at the top. I like all 3 of them personally.
And we get it Germanjohnfru. You don't respect the work that Trucks is doing especially when compared to Frusciante. You are entitled that opinion of course. When I hear Trucks play My Favorite Things I hear wonderful innovation but again that is my opinion.
I don't understand why all of you are arguing so much...each of these guitarists does something completely different and they have respect for each other.
John Mayer is the best technical player.
Derek Trucks is undoubtedly the most skilled player.
And neither of them can play with as much soul and passion as John Frusciante puts in his music.
Could someone explain this musically to me please? At around 3:40, John and John seem to stay at the V chord for an additional measure instead of going to the IV, then he does some other little progression. Are my ears tricking me? Or is there a name for this little divergence in the progression?
Its blues, not rock and roll. Most blues transition back to the I chord from the V chord. Generally as a perfect authentic cadence.
The Cadence of the IV to the I is a Plagal cadence.
Oh and John Mayor is an idiot... He has no idea what he is talking about with the slide. Trunks is still bound by the key and tonality of the scale, its just he sounds 100 times better than you john. Its called the skill of a true bluesman.
many of you criticizing frusciante don't understand how his state of mind and past experiences affect him and everything he does. his drug experiences have made him a far more fragile person, even now when he has mostly recovered.
I like Derek the most...he's got some of the magic Duane Allman also had.. And i gotta say... Derek is not at all just blues. Just listen to his album "Songlines"...A song like "All i Do" or some of that funny indian stuff :P he's one of the most versatile if not the most of the guitarists i know..
i saw derek last oct in atl and he fucking rocked...my girl who loves slayer by the end of the show was whoooo whooooing!! derek trucks 4 life!! but the other two are good to learn how to play the guitar...then when you graduate to really wanting to play then study derek...word!!
Graduate into what? Derek Trucks is talented but he's nothing new. He takes music to no new directions and has no new ideas. He is a glorified nostalgia guitarist who's skills are amalgamated from the true innovators of his genre. John Frusciante, on the otherhand, is very modern. Through his solo music and numerous collaberations, he looks towards the future and new possibilities, not just for the guitar but for music itself.
right. john frusciante's solo stuff is almost post-modernist. not saying he's better than mayer and trucks. he's clearly not... but frusciante's solo projects actually has weight in that he tries to progress music rather than stick to the formula.
It's not about who is better. There's no way to prove that because their music only shows what they can do and you have no idea of knowing what they can't do. Plus, most casual listeners and amateur musicians only focus on the blatantly quantifiable aspects of playing and not necessarily the nuances that actually makes a player stand out as an individual rather than extremely skilled conformists like John Mayer or Derek Trucks.
Trucks and Mayer are skilled guitarists that write songs that blues enthusiasts want to hear. John Frusciante makes art. His guitar playing is more about discovering new sounds and textures and ways to apply them to different scenarios. Also, most of the brilliance of his guitar playing is the layering he does. He'll have songs with 5-10 guitar parts that work seamlessly together to make an impressive whole. Very few guitar players work like that.
i wouldnt really call trucks and mayer "conformists". thats a bit extreme. derek trucks incorporates world music like indian and latin music into his playing, i would know i dig him. there is a bit of progression in his style more so than mayer's. mayer with his voice and playing is essentially an SRV copy and he's closer to the "conformist" description... although i'd rather avoid that term altogether. again, frusciante is truely the more experimental of the three.
you cant denounce derek trucks by saying what he does is not art. music is music. its art for the ears. to each his own... you know? but i do consider all three good guitarists and artists within themselves. mayer is easy to hate.... but he has brought a younger crowd back onto the blues. i also highly suggest you give derek trucks' stuff a chance. not only is his slide work astounding, he's got some pretty bold statements in his playing. drop the extremist view, and open yourself for trucks!
I've listened to plenty of Trucks' music. He's an impressive guitarist but, to me, that's not enough. There are millions of impressive players on any instrument. Don't get me wrong, Trucks obviously stands out more, but he still seems like a young cat in an old style. I love a lot of the styles he plays but I think that other players have taken them to their peaks and it's time to move on and stop trying to make slight modifications on these older styles.
I've read multiple Trucks interviews and I think the main problem is that he's a sound purist. With everything that has come out of the guitar since it went electric, I think that the only real way to bring the guitar in new directions today is to reevaluate possible applications of the guitar and I think it can only be done by exploring sonic properties and using a larger array of sounds both live and in the studio.
I love a lot of the styles he plays but I think that other players have taken them to their peaks and it's time to move on and stop trying to make slight modifications on these older styles."
But that is an opinion. Just because he is not taking guitar in the direction YOU think it should go doesn't take away from Trucks' vision or his talent. Sure he is not playing the way that appeals to you but the answer is to just listen to Frusciante. Problem solved.
YOU SIR ARE IGNORANT, TRULY IGNORANT. YOU MUST BE A STUPID NAZI!!!!!
DEREK TRUCKS NOTHING NEW? YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON! HAVE U HEARD ANYONE IN YOUR FUCKING MEASLY LIFETIME THAT CAN PLAY THE SLIDE WITH THAT KIND OF VIRTUOSO?
JOHN FRUSCIANTE IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING TOO SPECIAL, ANYONE CAN REPLACE HIM.
ALSO I WANT TO ASK BUT... DO U EVEN PLAY GUITAR? ARE U LIKE 16YRS OLD? ARE U A NAZI?
GermanJohnFru you really fucked up man. i mean, its obvious hre that in a blues frame, derck has the lead. mayer hhas some cool stuff, and fru, is original, but has no blues at all. where did you fuck up? Quote:"this is why I can't stand any current blues/jazz guitar player; for some reason, stringing together a lot of STANDARD licks that have been STANDARD for 30+ years is mistaken for improvisation." WTF??????????????
im just saying i haven't heard a satisfying solo from frusciante. my opinion tho. he also doesn't play anything new. he plays fast riffs over and over. i think that some of the work john mayer and derek trucks is absolutely great. there phrasing and complexity are beyond frusciante, not to say that the technical part is everything. they all have feeling, but i mayers playing gets to me. i just think mayer and trucks have more skill. but the chili peppers are still in my top 10 fav.
I bet you haven't even heard 1/4 of the things Frusciante has done over his lifetime to even have a remotely insightful opinion on his abilities. You probably give as much care to your thought process as you do your embarrassingly poor English skills. Do some research and come back when you actually have some sort of weight to your argument and not just some blanket opinions.
Right, but I think that if you want to make statements about who is beyond who in what aspects of guitar playing, it shouldn't be based solely on personal taste. Your familiarity with his playing outside of the Red Hot Chili Peppers is probably slim to none and yet you're trying to make assumptions on players you personally think are better who aren't even remotely similar in style of play.
His p ost actually dost make sense, and on one hand i do agree with you, John Mayer used a lot of SRV licks, but cmon, are you telling me that Derek Ttucks is using standard blues licks? Either you are deaf or just never listened to his stuff at all
But, in case you didn't notice, there are people that are actually outside the blues medium that do want to bring the guitar in new directions. Frusciante is one of them. Instead of rehashing a bunch of tired blues licks, he actually pushes the boundaries of sound, texture, and phrasing while ACTUALLY IMPROVISING which leads you to new areas of discovery and new potentials for music. No, Frusciante doesn't want keep up with the past because he's too busy being the future.
fru. is good... for what he plays, yea hes creative and what not, but hes a ripoff of hendrix and page and yea mayer does sound like stevie but hes good at what he does. a good guitar player can hang, obviously this video shows that fru. is out-played by the both of them, thats not to say that he isnt good though, jf is one of my favs but you have to take an honest view though when it comes to the technical side of the fretboard
You must have absolute zero familiarity with Frusciante's solo albums. Almost nothing in them sound remotely similar to either Hendrix or Page. I could be relatively certain, though, that you have invested little or no time in studying classicial guitar playing. If you did, you'd had a way better insight to who Frusciante actually is as a player.
I've seen all three of them live on different occasions (Frusciante 06, Mayer 07, Trucks 08) and John Frusicante is the only one who truly moved me. sure derek trucks has the most technical skill and john mayer's tunes are easy to digest but it's about what plays to your soul not your head. John frusciante is in another dimension when he plays you can see it in his face. everything is too cerebral these days.
if you watch the end of the video 3:38 on jf has no idea where they are. he doesn't have the musical knowledge that either of them have. i don't dislike frusciante, but in my opinion mayer and trucks are both out of his league
Regarding the solo, this is why I can't stand any current blues/jazz guitar player; for some reason, stringing together a lot of STANDARD licks that have been STANDARD for 30+ years is mistaken for improvisation. Not only that, but the tone varies extremely little. If that doesn't beat all, people like you find it to be 'respectable' to be a complete rehash of the people who actually did pioneer this type of guitar playing.
Frusciante has a great solo career. It's just that he actually makes GOOD music and doesn't put out a record and then suck a whole lot of herpes-infested corporate cock so his shitty songs are sold to a bunch of hormone driven 14 year old girls so he can date talentless super-stars like Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson.
I'm glad I made a giant sandy vagina out of you, BluesBrother615. The Crossroads guitar festival is for aging guitarists who were once great haven't done shit in 30 years who are trying to get hip with a younger generation of blues guitarist wannabes, simultaneously playing blues hits from 50 years ago whilst throwing in 'new' songs that are ripoffs of the old blues hits. It is possibly the most anti-progressive concert I can think of.
there already house hold names you stupid shit. wow you blow me away at how naieve you are and how you think. They earned there spot and i think its cool to have badass young slingers take the show, mayer, lang, randolph, trucks, etc. dont hate and be biased man just enjoy it all bro, its childish even comparing them, jf jm dt they all have something good and there noticed for a reason and they have earned there respect and they dnt give a shit what we think so just chill
I'm not saying their not good. It's just nothing new, musically. It's hardly more than a blues guitar festival. You were passing it off as if not playing there was considered guitar playing inferiority. Have you at all considered that other guitarists in the world were either on tour or declined the invitation for any various reason?
Well Mr Schnitzel eater, now youve made a vagina out of yourself. Aging guitarists they are indeed, but theser guitarists succesfully changed the entire rock scene in 2-3 years unlike someone like John Frusciante. All of these three guitarists above are cool, very different styles. Saying one is better than the others is plain stupid, because then we would state our opinions and you can enver reverse someones opinion. Obviously, you could judge technical skill, and JM and DT surpass JF
Well...congratulations to you for having the most retarded post on here...
And I would bone up on your rock history to see who really has done the most to change the rock scene. Mayer and Trucks are good guitar players and they're well-known, but neither have really done anything to change music at all.
Oh man. You ppl sicken me. Saying one is better than the other. My opinion, I like JOhn mayer the best there followed up by frusciante. But yeah. YOu can't say one is better than the other. Frusicante is an excellent rhythm/ funk player. Mayer is pretty good at blues. Just listen to him in a live concert and you'll know. Derek trucks is amazing at slide and i find that part hard to master. Plus mayer is the newwest in the industry between three of em. Just wait some more years
I agree, you can't say who is better but I would argue that Frusciante has more potential than Trucks or Mayer. Frusciante has already produced a vast amount of music with extreme stylistic and playing variations that I don't see Trucks or Mayer even coming close to doing in their careers and Frusciante still has so much more he wants to/plans to do.
I wouldn't put Trucks or Mayer up there. A Guitar God to me is someone who has great skills, originality, and the ability to be progressive. Trucks and Mayer are neither original or progressive. Frusciante's the only one who actually experiments with music and comes up with new ideas.
oh i completely agree with you about the guitar god part, but i strongly disagree with you about the Frusciante part. Trucks is probably the most original player there (dont know how you can say he isnt), and the best skills and not to mention improvisation.
What makes Trucks original? He adheres to a style of music that has already been well-developed for decades. Frusciante's solo work, his work with the Mars Volta, and experimental electronica shows are far more progressive and original.
nobody has the sound of Trucks or has had a sound like him, he's not only the one of the best guitarist but also one of the the most unique and original. I've heard plenty plenty of people who sounded like Frusciante well before him.
A lot of people have sounded like Trucks. He's got a sweet tone but it's still only a slight variance from the common jazz guitarists' tone. Plus his solo style is little varied from the same common jazz solo style that's been around since Bebop; basically start low, build a climax, and bring it back down. He's a highly skilled guitarist with some unique qualities but I would hardly characterize him as anything new, original, or progressive.
i can say the same bout fruciante. how is he any different from hendrix and page? ive heard all that before and he just plays is sloppier with more distortion. He is good but hes not what you make him out to be. If you want to talk about genuinly good pickers than yea lets do that. ( van halen and hendrix and bbking were originals, not john fru.) and hes not a genious, highland and mozart and beethoven are geniouses not john fru.
wrong wrong wrong, your comments are biased. if fruciante is a amazing guitar player than why cant he hang with these guys? good guitar players can play anything anywhere with anybody, and listing to Fruciante on here really disappointed me. he struggles with these guys. now you see what he really sounds like without distortin and wah pedals. wow he really disapoints me
do his experiments really help when it comes his time to solo? no. they dont..... he cant keep up. If he was what you made him out to be than he might have something creative to play on here but no. he doesnt. good guitar players can play any kind of music and arent handicaped by one genre. like ur boy fruciante. wow now that i see him without distortion and a copied tone and his wah pedal he isnt any better than an average at guitar center.
fruciante wouldnt make it as a solo artist because hes not good enough. Mayer has talent and potential. thats why he is at the crossroads guitar festival every year with people who have proven themselves worthy to play there. oh yea how many times has fruciante played there? oh yea hes hasnt silly me
no no no no no no. hes good but not the greatest of all time, yea lets go back to 89' and see share the stage with stevie ray or clapton. or van halen, or nuno bettencourt. he couldnt handle it
frusciante has the most talent. you can just see it in his face and his fingers. you know he couldve ripped something so far off the charts that it wouldnt melted everyones faces in the room
I like how Derek Trucks is talking about Duane Allman, B.B. and so on, and Mayer is a big blues fan and then Frusciante starts talking about Ace Frehley and the Sex Pistols...
I don't know if it's just me who finds it funny though..
lets face it people mayer is the most talented the man is a living legendnd if the music industry as a whole hadnt sold out hed be the next hendrix already and derek truks is awesome im not denying fru's ability but hes just not quite in mayers league sorry peeps
I know he is a pedal steel guitarist, but honestly, he is definitely as funky as Frusciante.
And Grant Tye, there arent many players around that can get the feel like him. Anyone who doesnt know him should check him out, unless you have a grudge against country music.
will probably be bashed for this, but i find blues guitar really, really unexciting. at least modern blues guitar. it began over a century ago, and had been perfected by the '60s/'70s. now it's generally just a bunch of derivative tripe. Frusciante wasn't really able to show what he could do here (as he's not much of a blues guitarist), but as far as i'm concerned, he's the only one of the three doing anything musically innovative/interesting.
I love both Johns dearly, and admire their work, but I must say that Derek is my personal favourite. Lyrically I'd say Mayer, but as far as the music itself, Derek: hands down. I saw Trucks perform live last summer and it was absolutely amazing. He did a blues-style version of 'Favourite Things' from 'The Sound of Music'. Now, I know what you're thinking, but he dropped the lyrics and just used the melody from the chorus. It was breathtaking, everybody there was floored. I recommend Trucks :)
how is frusciante a guitar god? And a NEW guitar god at that. Dont get me wrong i love frusciante and the chili peppers, hes a good guitarist but he not that great.
1st-the article said in the past 20 yrs. Second, he's a guitar god because he has unbelievable skills. Mayer and Trucks have a lot of talent, but they try to much to preserve, almost mimic, the old players to an extent where they're just good, but nothing new. Frusciante puts music in a perspetive where the past is the past and you must always move forward.
I think that's why people degrade Frusciante's playing. Most people aren't looking for a new Guitar God,they're looking for a new guitar player that plays like the old Guitar Gods. Of the three here, Frusciante has, arguably, the most personally expressive style. He uses his influences more indirectly, like their approach to music, rather than directly like learning a lick and putting it in a solo. This has created for him stylistic originality and unprecedented versatility that most don't have.
Im not pickin on john frusciante, i love all his work, and makes great songs, but hes not a better guitarist as the others or a lot more for that matter...and of course they mimic other people, its who they listend to and are influenced by, everyone has done it, angus young emulated chuck berry, derek trucks & duane allman, stevie ray and jimi hendrix but they all kept it new....NOW If you wanna go ahead an base this on the # of hits someone has had then i guess he would make the list.
I'm not stupid enough to pick who's "better" because that's impossible. And I don't think you understood what my post meant at all. You seem like you have a surface level thought process that's not keen on philosophical depth but rather a superficial blatancy that most people use to discuss. That's not to be insulting but I do think you really need to look at it on a deeper level.
I get that he approached music a totally different way and thats great and it made him unique...but from a technical standpoint hes not as good.(thats taking into account, Knowledge of music and theory,and just plain ability)...and all of them would tell you that they are humbeled to be consider this but, should not be there, because the fact is that there is always someone better than you.
What do you know about Frusciante's technical or theoretical ability? Do you know him personally? Sounds like you're trying to take a shot in the dark on what you think you know about him. Multiple magazines, interviewers, musicians, etc...have referred to him as a virtuoso and a prodigy. Even Rolling Stone comments that he's one of the most technically advanced rock guitarists which would put him up with Slash, Dave Navarro, Tom Morello, and other rock virtuosos still playing today.
ROLLING STONES....THE SAME ROLLING STONES that put KURT COBAIN in the top 12 guitarists of all time...or the same that had JOAN JETT above ANGUS YOUNG....what do they know?
No, that was just me giving up on countering the emptiness of your thought process. And Rolling Stone may not be the best magazine to quote, it's still more credible than you. Because you chose not to recognize Frusciante's is your own problem. You will never have any idea of the full capabilities of these three guitar players. However, Frusciante has done far more musically and in more directions than Trucks or Mayer put together.
Ok, first off i did recognize him as a really good guitarist....And more directions?What Funk-Rock and Pop-Rock?thats it...Trucks Spands from blues, rock, middle eastern, carribean, etc...Now if u wanna say he's done a lot for music he has...(hes been around for 20 years, he better have done something)....And empty thought process...couldnt have been too empty if i was quoting something that you had.
Actually John Frusciante has ventured through alternative rock, funk rock, funk metal, experimental rock, ambient music, New Wave, electronica, lo-fi, avant-garde, psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, Progressive rock, punk, blues, Ska, and reggae just to name a few. Try listening to all of his albums with RHCP plus their B-sides, then listen to his solo albums, his band called Ataxia, his work with The Mars Volta/Omar Rodríguez-López, and all of his live music.
ALRIGHT..if were gonna get all specific with the breaking down of the rock music catagories here of course its gonna look like a lot of directions...hell i can break down blues all day...Delta-blues, chicago-blues, jazz, acid-blues, blues-rock, westcoast-blues,soul-blues,funk-blues,jump-blues,gospel-blues,swamp-blues...i can do this all day and in every catagory..so dont throw a bunch of sub-catagories in there tryin to impress me.
Yet, ironically, you named two subcategories as the only things that Frusciante has done. But when you compare it to who they've worked with, Trucks has generally only worked with Blues musicians. Where Frusciante is pretty much all over the board with Brian Eno, Snoop Dogg, Johnny Cash, The Mars Volta, Bob Forrest, Tricky, Joe Lally, Dave Gahan...Not to mention the places he's explored in his solo music. People like Frusciante are the future and people like Trucks keep the past alive.
Frusciante was inspired by hip-hop,funk,and rock so it makes sense that he has worked with them just like Trucks was influenced by blues and rock(hence the Allman Brothers, Eric Clapton, etc.)John just doesnt do anything that WOWS me, granted he has lots of really good,catchy riffs, but nothing that makes me go "i wonder how hes's doing that" I've heard a lot of his improv. and its not that great...Yes hes a very underrated guitarist to some point, and im not trashing him. But others
"Frusciante was inspired by hip-hop,funk,and rock"
John was not influenced by Hip hop. I also should say that he was influenced by so many different artists throughout his life, some being Frank Zappa & Co. and Black Flag/Circle Jerks as well as Jimi Hendrix. There are so many others. You've obviously only been exposed to his popular singles with RHCP.
Sorry. Blues is blues. Trying to differentiate between those labels is complete bullshit. Alternative rock, funk rock, funk metal, experimental rock, ambient music, New Wave, electronica, lo-fi, avant-garde, psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, Hip hop Progressive rock, jazz, punk, blues, Ska, reggae, Etc. are all different genres of music. As for specifics, I'm not being specific at all.
The only thing you know about Frusciante is his name.
Sorry..but there is a huge difference between delta blues and blues rock...listen to them sometime...the point is that its all under the blues category and all that stuff^^^^^ is under the rock category(excluding the obvious)
Variety within the blues opposes any profound notion. Alternative rock, funk rock, funk metal, experimental rock, ambient music, New Wave, electronica, lo-fi, avant-garde, psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, Hip hop Progressive rock, jazz, punk, blues, Ska, reggae, Etc. are all different genres of music. Unlike the blues, rock music can be used to label a vast amount of different music. Even while saying that, all of the styles I've listed are quite different and are not Subcategories of the music.
psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, hip hop progressive rock, punk, funk-metal,experimental rock, alternative rock, and funk rock are ALL SUBCATAGORIES OF ROCK...Hence the word ROCK at the end...And the differnt types of blues are very differnt from one another you just have to listen for it and it can label anything too!!...Anything from Robert Johnson to Stevie Ray Vaughn- to Led Zeppelin to AC/DC
and by the way, when i say he was influenced by rock.....THAT INCLUDES the likes of jimi hendrix and frank zappa..that should have been a NO BRAINER for ya there!
Did I say that he wasn't influenced by Hendrix or Zappa? Did I say that they were not rock artists? You said that he was inspired by Hip hop which wasn't true.
Hip hop is not a subcategory of rock and neither are funk, Ska, reggae, electronica, ambient music, jazz, avant-garde. Not to mention that Metal and Progressive music have developed into their own genres. Punk has also spawned distinctive genres such as new wave and lo-fi.
Blues is not broad at all. If music is based in blues, you will not get much to work with from that. All of those blues players were influenced by many of the same people and there isn't much of a spectrum to choose from. I can match AC/DC to Zeppelin easily and Robert Johnson has had influence leading all the way up to that point. There's no comparison. It's not like Dream Theater is nearly similar to the Ramones, Depeche Mode or bands like Third World and Steel Pulse.
The main difference if you're arguing the broadness or variation of the two categories is that any sub-genre of Blues still has to remain fundamentally bluesy. Rock doesn't have to stick to any fundamental sound. A lot of times music gets put under the rock category because 'labelers' don't know what else to call it. Arguably, that makes it the broadest and most variated genre compared to any.
What??...Led Zeppelin blues are way different than the blues of say oh...Stevie Ray Vaughan, and the Robert Johnson delta blues are a lot different than people like Joe bonamassa and walter trout...Yes Rock is a very broad genre but the blues is too..its just not widely popular so many people dont know it.
You may see them as "a lot different", but Bonamassa was influenced by Page and "SRV", as well as Clapton(who was influenced by Robert Johnson). Not to mention that Page, Bonamassa, "SRV" and Clapton were all influenced by Buddy Guy. Every guitarist obviously has their own phrasing, but in the blues they just use the habit that have been handed down. They can all be linked.
Whether you hear Since I've Been Loving You, Texas Flood, Sweet Home Chicago, Crossroads, Killing Floor or even Red House, you can tell that they're blues because they all have the characteristics and format that have to link. Could you link The Ramones to Rush? Or either of those bands to The Police?
It doesn't have to be 12 bar blues like those^^^^ to be considered blues or blues influence, it can also be just in your phrasing, thats why blues spands so much...yes rock is a broader genre but blues is not small...anyways this is getting off the topic, i dont care how many genres your considered to be in...it doesn't make you a great guitarist. Hell Angus Young and Stevie Ray Vaughan were only in one genre and they are phenomenal guitarists
Tell me something I don't know. Eddie Van Halen and Kirk Hammett are blues based guitarists but those bands are not blues. Angus Young is not, never was and never will be a phenomenal guitarist. Guthrie Govan is a phenomenal guitarist.
Yea but eddie and kirk also used a lot of harmonic minor scales witch is NOT considered blues...Angus and SRV used usually only minor pentatonic and dorian scales witch is very blues based...and yes i was a little hasty saying angus is a phenomenal guitarist but hes a great blues guitarist and i would go far enough to say better than john f., just cuz his music wasn't different doesnt mean it wasnt good.
"Yea but eddie and kirk also used a lot of harmonic minor scales witch is NOT considered blues". I'm not sure how "witch" got involved in this conversation unless we're typing about Halloween or something. I also didn't notice Hammett and Van Halen using Harminc Minor. Provide examples.
By the way, youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=QAHFvhmHu30 shows me his typically very Cliché licks. I also add that his studio solos all sound far too similar. He also hasn't done much to those solos when he plays them live either. Looking like a leprechaun going around the stage hasn't done anything for his playing.
Of course they're ur normal licks he's a blue/rock gutiarist and he doesnt stray from that...and when he plays them live he does a whole bunch of breakdowns so he can show his ability...and running around on stage is not suppose to improve his playing its for show...but shooting up with heroin hasn't helped John any though.
"he does a whole bunch of breakdowns so he can show his ability" From all that I've seen he sticks to playing them basically the same cliche way. The funniest thing is that he's only ever used licks that me and every other electric guitarist has ever used. The only thing is that I was using them as somwhat of a beginner after maybe 2 years of playing.
Yes, but Angus Young and SRV at least had something new to say at their time. Trucks and Mayer are really not much more than re-creationists with a modern spin. Imagine if someone recreated the Mona Lisa and put modern day New York City in the background...Would you hail them as the modern painting genius of our time? I don't mean to downplay Truck's or Mayer's skills but if your life's work is recreating old styles, that's not really an accomplishment to me...
Im not saying that just trucks or mayer should be up there...but if this article is for guitar legends in the past 20 years where are people like Slash and kirk or joe satriani....w/out Eddie V. there could be no van halen, w/out slash there wuz no Guns n roses, w/out angus young there is no ac/dc, but w/out John f. Chili peppers did just fine.
That's a really stupid argument. First of all, Slash, Satriani, and Kirk Hammett have all been on the circuit longer than 20 years. John started in 88'. Second, just because RHCP did ok without Frusciante doesn't mean he can't be considered a great guitar player. You just can't except the fact that John Frusciante has more to offer than most guitar players.
Umm Appetite for destruction was 1987, satriani's Not of this earth wus in 1986..Wow a 1-2 year difference...What does he have to offer more than other guitarists...playing in a bunch of genres or having a bunch of hit songs doesnt make you a great guitar player..it might make the band he played in great but not him.
At this point, I'm just going to believe that you're stupid. You attempts to discredit Frusciante are pathetic. What makes someone great musically is their influence over the current music scene. Plenty of people around the world have picked up the guitar because of his guitar work both in RHCP and solo. Plenty of musical figures have stated his guitar vituosity and musicianship.
"but w/out John f. Chili peppers did just fine." Wow, you know your stuff. Mother's Milk and BSSM were their breakthrough records both with John. When he left they released One Hot Minute but it was poorly received by all. Then he came back to make Californication, By The Way and Stadium Arcadium which were all very successful. Without John the results
"but w/out John f. Chili peppers did just fine" Are you purposely saying such funny things? John earned them their first two breakthrough albums and when he left they were poorly received. Since he has returned they have enjoyed three of their most successful albums. I also want to say that Michael Akerfeldt, Marty Friedman and Mike Einziger are all better choices than most of those mentioned here.
"btw...early police was a PUNK band." I don't know what you attempt to signify by saying that. Early Police were trying to play reggae. Andy Summers also has certain influences on his guitar playing.
I went to Junior High with Frusciante and he brought in his guitar for show and tell in our homeroom class. It is great to hear his story about when he got his strat. I'm guessing that is what he had brought to class.
if they are going to put an old guy like John Frusciante on this cover then...WHERE THE FUCK IS TREY ANASTASIO!!!....I just can not believe that Trey is not on this cover....The Chili Peppers and Phish are both started around the same time....yet John is on the cover but not trey...Trey is known for his godly guitar....god damn....And FUCKING JOHN MAYER! over TREY!...MAyer is good, but he is an SRV rip off.
Trey is one of the greatest guitarist of all time..He has an original sound and "TONE" something many guitarist would die for. His technicality often baffles many guitarists..Just listen to any live phish album, However i also love Johns playing. I think John F also has that "tone". But trey should be on this cover too, thats all im saying.
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this is not blues...none of this is blues
blues comes from pain and it's black mans music..of all the people stevie ray is the only white guitarist that could do the blues..it's just embarrising to see john mayer and the other dude try to play the blues when they are just spoiled brants..
blues belongs on the street not in some silly magazine...
yA first comment!. great guitarist!. the next guitar god for sure!. thank god the blues will live on. not that it wont, but now we are sure it will. funny guys too, the NEXT GENERATION!!
John Frusciante = Adam Sandler ROFL!
666stringer 1 year ago
WHY J. FRUSCIANTE saids he took his firts electric guitar (fender model 1992) when he was with the rhcp since mid 80´s? thx----
kartman74usa 1 year ago
In My opinion Frusciante is the best here. Mayer is an excellent guitarist, but he just likes to show off too much (as shown here), and Trucks is also very good. Frusciante emphasizes emotion and melod in his guitar playing. Like Frusciante said: Guitar playing isn't about playing a lot of notes (as Mayer states in this vid), it's about making sounds that are good. Frusciante can play a one note solo that sounds better then any of these guys' solos.
Str1keRS1R 1 year ago
@Str1keRS1R
the thing is... frusciante can't keep up with John Mayer nor Derek Trucks (in last 4 mins) his rhythm guitar is OKAY and his solo is good and all, but he is no where near the leagues of the other two (atleast in blues). Plus his solo is poop compared to Derek Truck's slide solo. Anyone can copy Frusciante's solo, but no one can mimic Derek's tone with the slide.
cheesicles 1 year ago
@cheesicles You're right. Frusciante studied blues but he didn't play it a lot and I think these guys are a lot better in that category. I think Frusciante is untouchable in funk though and he is one of the better guitar players who emphasize melody. Seriously I hate comparing guitar players, it's like comparing chocolate bars. It all depends on someone's taste.
Str1keRS1R 1 year ago
jack white is a noob john mayer can play the guitar
cheesicles 1 year ago
Frusciante's my favorite out of the three, not a huge john mayer fan, although he is still a respectable musician, and trucks is freaking awesome too :P. Dont know why so much hate is going on, its all based on preferences of what you like.
OHmygodXoBil3 1 year ago
why isnt jack white here instead of john mayer. Mayer is a tool.
nardo363636 1 year ago
Does anyone know from where the chord progression Derek Trucks is soloing over from 3:37 comes? I think it's beautiful!
THEDS22 1 year ago
I heard that frusciante left RHCP
continuum1989 2 years ago
he did it mad me sad
soxsfanmyman14 2 years ago
Why the guitarguments? They all play a different style and what you like is what you like. All three bring something but personal taste will account for the guitarist you will put at the top. I like all 3 of them personally.
And we get it Germanjohnfru. You don't respect the work that Trucks is doing especially when compared to Frusciante. You are entitled that opinion of course. When I hear Trucks play My Favorite Things I hear wonderful innovation but again that is my opinion.
CharlottewithanS 2 years ago
I don't understand why all of you are arguing so much...each of these guitarists does something completely different and they have respect for each other.
John Mayer is the best technical player.
Derek Trucks is undoubtedly the most skilled player.
And neither of them can play with as much soul and passion as John Frusciante puts in his music.
brownsound07 2 years ago 3
frusciante out of the league.
alsgh422 2 years ago
having john frusciante playing beside john mayer is like having beethoven play beside jimmy buffet
got mayer is such a pretty boy homo its disgusting
andrewtress 2 years ago
Could someone explain this musically to me please? At around 3:40, John and John seem to stay at the V chord for an additional measure instead of going to the IV, then he does some other little progression. Are my ears tricking me? Or is there a name for this little divergence in the progression?
RuecianG 2 years ago
The only name I'd know for it would be the chords you hit in that little turnaround there. Something like a 5-3-6-2-4 cadence-like thingy.
russman6543 2 years ago
@russman6543
let me help him out..
Its blues, not rock and roll. Most blues transition back to the I chord from the V chord. Generally as a perfect authentic cadence.
The Cadence of the IV to the I is a Plagal cadence.
Oh and John Mayor is an idiot... He has no idea what he is talking about with the slide. Trunks is still bound by the key and tonality of the scale, its just he sounds 100 times better than you john. Its called the skill of a true bluesman.
Fruscianteistheman 2 years ago
hey man if your gonna hate on one of the greatest guitarist of all time at least spell his name right... Mayer
soxsfanmyman14 2 years ago
@Fruscianteistheman Haha, I'm pretty sure he was making a joke about the slide having infinitely more sounds than his guitar.
RuecianG 1 year ago
many of you criticizing frusciante don't understand how his state of mind and past experiences affect him and everything he does. his drug experiences have made him a far more fragile person, even now when he has mostly recovered.
LfunkeyA 2 years ago
I like Derek the most...he's got some of the magic Duane Allman also had.. And i gotta say... Derek is not at all just blues. Just listen to his album "Songlines"...A song like "All i Do" or some of that funny indian stuff :P he's one of the most versatile if not the most of the guitarists i know..
Aegis90 3 years ago
i saw derek last oct in atl and he fucking rocked...my girl who loves slayer by the end of the show was whoooo whooooing!! derek trucks 4 life!! but the other two are good to learn how to play the guitar...then when you graduate to really wanting to play then study derek...word!!
psycho26shon 3 years ago
Graduate into what? Derek Trucks is talented but he's nothing new. He takes music to no new directions and has no new ideas. He is a glorified nostalgia guitarist who's skills are amalgamated from the true innovators of his genre. John Frusciante, on the otherhand, is very modern. Through his solo music and numerous collaberations, he looks towards the future and new possibilities, not just for the guitar but for music itself.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
right. john frusciante's solo stuff is almost post-modernist. not saying he's better than mayer and trucks. he's clearly not... but frusciante's solo projects actually has weight in that he tries to progress music rather than stick to the formula.
fcbtim 2 years ago 3
It's not about who is better. There's no way to prove that because their music only shows what they can do and you have no idea of knowing what they can't do. Plus, most casual listeners and amateur musicians only focus on the blatantly quantifiable aspects of playing and not necessarily the nuances that actually makes a player stand out as an individual rather than extremely skilled conformists like John Mayer or Derek Trucks.
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago 2
Trucks and Mayer are skilled guitarists that write songs that blues enthusiasts want to hear. John Frusciante makes art. His guitar playing is more about discovering new sounds and textures and ways to apply them to different scenarios. Also, most of the brilliance of his guitar playing is the layering he does. He'll have songs with 5-10 guitar parts that work seamlessly together to make an impressive whole. Very few guitar players work like that.
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago 3
i wouldnt really call trucks and mayer "conformists". thats a bit extreme. derek trucks incorporates world music like indian and latin music into his playing, i would know i dig him. there is a bit of progression in his style more so than mayer's. mayer with his voice and playing is essentially an SRV copy and he's closer to the "conformist" description... although i'd rather avoid that term altogether. again, frusciante is truely the more experimental of the three.
fcbtim 2 years ago
you cant denounce derek trucks by saying what he does is not art. music is music. its art for the ears. to each his own... you know? but i do consider all three good guitarists and artists within themselves. mayer is easy to hate.... but he has brought a younger crowd back onto the blues. i also highly suggest you give derek trucks' stuff a chance. not only is his slide work astounding, he's got some pretty bold statements in his playing. drop the extremist view, and open yourself for trucks!
fcbtim 2 years ago
I've listened to plenty of Trucks' music. He's an impressive guitarist but, to me, that's not enough. There are millions of impressive players on any instrument. Don't get me wrong, Trucks obviously stands out more, but he still seems like a young cat in an old style. I love a lot of the styles he plays but I think that other players have taken them to their peaks and it's time to move on and stop trying to make slight modifications on these older styles.
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago
I've read multiple Trucks interviews and I think the main problem is that he's a sound purist. With everything that has come out of the guitar since it went electric, I think that the only real way to bring the guitar in new directions today is to reevaluate possible applications of the guitar and I think it can only be done by exploring sonic properties and using a larger array of sounds both live and in the studio.
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago
I love a lot of the styles he plays but I think that other players have taken them to their peaks and it's time to move on and stop trying to make slight modifications on these older styles."
But that is an opinion. Just because he is not taking guitar in the direction YOU think it should go doesn't take away from Trucks' vision or his talent. Sure he is not playing the way that appeals to you but the answer is to just listen to Frusciante. Problem solved.
CharlottewithanS 2 years ago
@GermanJohnFru
YOU SIR ARE IGNORANT, TRULY IGNORANT. YOU MUST BE A STUPID NAZI!!!!!
DEREK TRUCKS NOTHING NEW? YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON! HAVE U HEARD ANYONE IN YOUR FUCKING MEASLY LIFETIME THAT CAN PLAY THE SLIDE WITH THAT KIND OF VIRTUOSO?
JOHN FRUSCIANTE IS DEFINITELY NOT SOMETHING TOO SPECIAL, ANYONE CAN REPLACE HIM.
ALSO I WANT TO ASK BUT... DO U EVEN PLAY GUITAR? ARE U LIKE 16YRS OLD? ARE U A NAZI?
cheesicles 1 year ago
GermanJohnFru you really fucked up man. i mean, its obvious hre that in a blues frame, derck has the lead. mayer hhas some cool stuff, and fru, is original, but has no blues at all. where did you fuck up? Quote:"this is why I can't stand any current blues/jazz guitar player; for some reason, stringing together a lot of STANDARD licks that have been STANDARD for 30+ years is mistaken for improvisation." WTF??????????????
Criblez 3 years ago
Your post makes no sense at all. I suggest you enroll in remedial English classes as soon as possible.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
frusciante is not good at improvising
nateguitarsoccer 2 years ago 2
Care to elaborate?
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago
im just saying i haven't heard a satisfying solo from frusciante. my opinion tho. he also doesn't play anything new. he plays fast riffs over and over. i think that some of the work john mayer and derek trucks is absolutely great. there phrasing and complexity are beyond frusciante, not to say that the technical part is everything. they all have feeling, but i mayers playing gets to me. i just think mayer and trucks have more skill. but the chili peppers are still in my top 10 fav.
nateguitarsoccer 2 years ago
I bet you haven't even heard 1/4 of the things Frusciante has done over his lifetime to even have a remotely insightful opinion on his abilities. You probably give as much care to your thought process as you do your embarrassingly poor English skills. Do some research and come back when you actually have some sort of weight to your argument and not just some blanket opinions.
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago
chill pal. were on youtube. i never said he was bad or anything lol
nateguitarsoccer 2 years ago 2
Right, but I think that if you want to make statements about who is beyond who in what aspects of guitar playing, it shouldn't be based solely on personal taste. Your familiarity with his playing outside of the Red Hot Chili Peppers is probably slim to none and yet you're trying to make assumptions on players you personally think are better who aren't even remotely similar in style of play.
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago
@nateguitarsoccer haha look at slane castle and all the solos frusciante is playing haha thats all improvised and its amazinggggg ha
dviper25 1 year ago
His p ost actually dost make sense, and on one hand i do agree with you, John Mayer used a lot of SRV licks, but cmon, are you telling me that Derek Ttucks is using standard blues licks? Either you are deaf or just never listened to his stuff at all
corosian 2 years ago
@GermanJohnFru
I suggest you go get a life
cheesicles 1 year ago
But, in case you didn't notice, there are people that are actually outside the blues medium that do want to bring the guitar in new directions. Frusciante is one of them. Instead of rehashing a bunch of tired blues licks, he actually pushes the boundaries of sound, texture, and phrasing while ACTUALLY IMPROVISING which leads you to new areas of discovery and new potentials for music. No, Frusciante doesn't want keep up with the past because he's too busy being the future.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
fru. is good... for what he plays, yea hes creative and what not, but hes a ripoff of hendrix and page and yea mayer does sound like stevie but hes good at what he does. a good guitar player can hang, obviously this video shows that fru. is out-played by the both of them, thats not to say that he isnt good though, jf is one of my favs but you have to take an honest view though when it comes to the technical side of the fretboard
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
You must have absolute zero familiarity with Frusciante's solo albums. Almost nothing in them sound remotely similar to either Hendrix or Page. I could be relatively certain, though, that you have invested little or no time in studying classicial guitar playing. If you did, you'd had a way better insight to who Frusciante actually is as a player.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
@GermanJohnFru
do u have a fetish for Frusciante?
does he get u horny?
cheesicles 1 year ago
I've seen all three of them live on different occasions (Frusciante 06, Mayer 07, Trucks 08) and John Frusicante is the only one who truly moved me. sure derek trucks has the most technical skill and john mayer's tunes are easy to digest but it's about what plays to your soul not your head. John frusciante is in another dimension when he plays you can see it in his face. everything is too cerebral these days.
JoaquinthebassFucker 3 years ago 3
How does Derek Trucks have the most technical skill?
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
@GermanJohnFru
you wouldn't know b/c u have no knowledge in the art of guitar
cheesicles 1 year ago
Yeah but see....everyone's souls are different and different music resonates with different souls...If it moves ya..than it moves ya
swerve19 3 years ago
if you watch the end of the video 3:38 on jf has no idea where they are. he doesn't have the musical knowledge that either of them have. i don't dislike frusciante, but in my opinion mayer and trucks are both out of his league
nateguitarsoccer 2 years ago
@GermanJohnFru Are u implying John Frusciante is a Blues player? Thats like saying Eric Clapton plays death metal
cheesicles 1 year ago
Regarding the solo, this is why I can't stand any current blues/jazz guitar player; for some reason, stringing together a lot of STANDARD licks that have been STANDARD for 30+ years is mistaken for improvisation. Not only that, but the tone varies extremely little. If that doesn't beat all, people like you find it to be 'respectable' to be a complete rehash of the people who actually did pioneer this type of guitar playing.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
@GermanJohnFru
just shut up, you make me sick with your stupid nonsense.
You're clearly a 15yr old white boy with no experience in blues that prattles everyday to protect your beloved guitar idol from your foolish ideology
cheesicles 1 year ago
Frusciante has a great solo career. It's just that he actually makes GOOD music and doesn't put out a record and then suck a whole lot of herpes-infested corporate cock so his shitty songs are sold to a bunch of hormone driven 14 year old girls so he can date talentless super-stars like Jennifer Aniston and Jessica Simpson.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago 3
youve managed to type so much but you say so little, your proving no point at all.
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
I'm glad I made a giant sandy vagina out of you, BluesBrother615. The Crossroads guitar festival is for aging guitarists who were once great haven't done shit in 30 years who are trying to get hip with a younger generation of blues guitarist wannabes, simultaneously playing blues hits from 50 years ago whilst throwing in 'new' songs that are ripoffs of the old blues hits. It is possibly the most anti-progressive concert I can think of.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
there already house hold names you stupid shit. wow you blow me away at how naieve you are and how you think. They earned there spot and i think its cool to have badass young slingers take the show, mayer, lang, randolph, trucks, etc. dont hate and be biased man just enjoy it all bro, its childish even comparing them, jf jm dt they all have something good and there noticed for a reason and they have earned there respect and they dnt give a shit what we think so just chill
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
I'm not saying their not good. It's just nothing new, musically. It's hardly more than a blues guitar festival. You were passing it off as if not playing there was considered guitar playing inferiority. Have you at all considered that other guitarists in the world were either on tour or declined the invitation for any various reason?
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
Well Mr Schnitzel eater, now youve made a vagina out of yourself. Aging guitarists they are indeed, but theser guitarists succesfully changed the entire rock scene in 2-3 years unlike someone like John Frusciante. All of these three guitarists above are cool, very different styles. Saying one is better than the others is plain stupid, because then we would state our opinions and you can enver reverse someones opinion. Obviously, you could judge technical skill, and JM and DT surpass JF
corosian 2 years ago
Well...congratulations to you for having the most retarded post on here...
And I would bone up on your rock history to see who really has done the most to change the rock scene. Mayer and Trucks are good guitar players and they're well-known, but neither have really done anything to change music at all.
GermanJohnFru 2 years ago
@GermanJohnFru
ur a fag
cheesicles 1 year ago
could any body tell me what did john said about stairway to heaven?He can play the solo now?
k0stil 3 years ago
i mean frusciante, not mayer, i dont like mayer.
biggestkissfanEVER 3 years ago
I LOVE JOHN!!! and he wanted to sound like my other hero ace frehley :)
this video doesnt get any better!
biggestkissfanEVER 3 years ago
John Frusciante cant keep up.
Snotra 3 years ago
i think all three are great and have limitless potential in their own styles of music.
fall0utboy 3 years ago
Oh man. You ppl sicken me. Saying one is better than the other. My opinion, I like JOhn mayer the best there followed up by frusciante. But yeah. YOu can't say one is better than the other. Frusicante is an excellent rhythm/ funk player. Mayer is pretty good at blues. Just listen to him in a live concert and you'll know. Derek trucks is amazing at slide and i find that part hard to master. Plus mayer is the newwest in the industry between three of em. Just wait some more years
Alquinto360 3 years ago
I agree, you can't say who is better but I would argue that Frusciante has more potential than Trucks or Mayer. Frusciante has already produced a vast amount of music with extreme stylistic and playing variations that I don't see Trucks or Mayer even coming close to doing in their careers and Frusciante still has so much more he wants to/plans to do.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
it should be Trucks, Joe Bonomassa, and John Mayer. Frusciante's almost 40, even though Trucks is better than both, then again just an opinion.
mpoke17 3 years ago
I wouldn't put Trucks or Mayer up there. A Guitar God to me is someone who has great skills, originality, and the ability to be progressive. Trucks and Mayer are neither original or progressive. Frusciante's the only one who actually experiments with music and comes up with new ideas.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
oh i completely agree with you about the guitar god part, but i strongly disagree with you about the Frusciante part. Trucks is probably the most original player there (dont know how you can say he isnt), and the best skills and not to mention improvisation.
mpoke17 3 years ago
What makes Trucks original? He adheres to a style of music that has already been well-developed for decades. Frusciante's solo work, his work with the Mars Volta, and experimental electronica shows are far more progressive and original.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
nobody has the sound of Trucks or has had a sound like him, he's not only the one of the best guitarist but also one of the the most unique and original. I've heard plenty plenty of people who sounded like Frusciante well before him.
mpoke17 3 years ago
A lot of people have sounded like Trucks. He's got a sweet tone but it's still only a slight variance from the common jazz guitarists' tone. Plus his solo style is little varied from the same common jazz solo style that's been around since Bebop; basically start low, build a climax, and bring it back down. He's a highly skilled guitarist with some unique qualities but I would hardly characterize him as anything new, original, or progressive.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago
i can say the same bout fruciante. how is he any different from hendrix and page? ive heard all that before and he just plays is sloppier with more distortion. He is good but hes not what you make him out to be. If you want to talk about genuinly good pickers than yea lets do that. ( van halen and hendrix and bbking were originals, not john fru.) and hes not a genious, highland and mozart and beethoven are geniouses not john fru.
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
wrong wrong wrong, your comments are biased. if fruciante is a amazing guitar player than why cant he hang with these guys? good guitar players can play anything anywhere with anybody, and listing to Fruciante on here really disappointed me. he struggles with these guys. now you see what he really sounds like without distortin and wah pedals. wow he really disapoints me
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
do his experiments really help when it comes his time to solo? no. they dont..... he cant keep up. If he was what you made him out to be than he might have something creative to play on here but no. he doesnt. good guitar players can play any kind of music and arent handicaped by one genre. like ur boy fruciante. wow now that i see him without distortion and a copied tone and his wah pedal he isnt any better than an average at guitar center.
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
fruciante wouldnt make it as a solo artist because hes not good enough. Mayer has talent and potential. thats why he is at the crossroads guitar festival every year with people who have proven themselves worthy to play there. oh yea how many times has fruciante played there? oh yea hes hasnt silly me
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
JOHN FRUSCIANTE THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST THE BEST. Frusciante The best. FANTASTIC.
xalederatos 3 years ago 2
Man do I hate John Mayer.. Go look at frusciante in '89 he's the greatest of all time.
JoaquinthebassFucker 3 years ago
I love that shit when he was kicking ass as a teenager in the LA underground punk-rock scene.
Jeremy1281988 3 years ago
no no no no no no. hes good but not the greatest of all time, yea lets go back to 89' and see share the stage with stevie ray or clapton. or van halen, or nuno bettencourt. he couldnt handle it
BluesBrother615 3 years ago
frusciante has the most talent. you can just see it in his face and his fingers. you know he couldve ripped something so far off the charts that it wouldnt melted everyones faces in the room
RazzTrance 3 years ago 6
i agree 100%
soxsfanmyman14 3 years ago
totally agree her also.
Jeremy1281988 3 years ago
I like how Derek Trucks is talking about Duane Allman, B.B. and so on, and Mayer is a big blues fan and then Frusciante starts talking about Ace Frehley and the Sex Pistols...
I don't know if it's just me who finds it funny though..
tollestrup 3 years ago
lets face it people mayer is the most talented the man is a living legendnd if the music industry as a whole hadnt sold out hed be the next hendrix already and derek truks is awesome im not denying fru's ability but hes just not quite in mayers league sorry peeps
kai1986 3 years ago
i dont know about the other two, but Derek is amazing.
one of the best living slid guitarists
luckyjinx17 3 years ago
Oh also, where is Robert Randolph?
I know he is a pedal steel guitarist, but honestly, he is definitely as funky as Frusciante.
And Grant Tye, there arent many players around that can get the feel like him. Anyone who doesnt know him should check him out, unless you have a grudge against country music.
xx
FieryGingerness 3 years ago
GermanJohnFru a bit silly,
how is Derek trucks not new?
As john mayer said, there are not many guitarists who can make the guitar sound like a Gospel singer from the 50s or 60s..
Signature move!
Anyways I like all three of these Guitarists.
They all have soul, they are just different.
Simple as.
FieryGingerness 3 years ago
frusciante was better than these guys wen he was 19
shadyjimbo 3 years ago 2
wrong
conarym9 3 years ago
will probably be bashed for this, but i find blues guitar really, really unexciting. at least modern blues guitar. it began over a century ago, and had been perfected by the '60s/'70s. now it's generally just a bunch of derivative tripe. Frusciante wasn't really able to show what he could do here (as he's not much of a blues guitarist), but as far as i'm concerned, he's the only one of the three doing anything musically innovative/interesting.
StoneMagnet 4 years ago 2
I love both Johns dearly, and admire their work, but I must say that Derek is my personal favourite. Lyrically I'd say Mayer, but as far as the music itself, Derek: hands down. I saw Trucks perform live last summer and it was absolutely amazing. He did a blues-style version of 'Favourite Things' from 'The Sound of Music'. Now, I know what you're thinking, but he dropped the lyrics and just used the melody from the chorus. It was breathtaking, everybody there was floored. I recommend Trucks :)
artistpie2277 4 years ago
how is frusciante a guitar god? And a NEW guitar god at that. Dont get me wrong i love frusciante and the chili peppers, hes a good guitarist but he not that great.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
1st-the article said in the past 20 yrs. Second, he's a guitar god because he has unbelievable skills. Mayer and Trucks have a lot of talent, but they try to much to preserve, almost mimic, the old players to an extent where they're just good, but nothing new. Frusciante puts music in a perspetive where the past is the past and you must always move forward.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
I think that's why people degrade Frusciante's playing. Most people aren't looking for a new Guitar God,they're looking for a new guitar player that plays like the old Guitar Gods. Of the three here, Frusciante has, arguably, the most personally expressive style. He uses his influences more indirectly, like their approach to music, rather than directly like learning a lick and putting it in a solo. This has created for him stylistic originality and unprecedented versatility that most don't have.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
Im not pickin on john frusciante, i love all his work, and makes great songs, but hes not a better guitarist as the others or a lot more for that matter...and of course they mimic other people, its who they listend to and are influenced by, everyone has done it, angus young emulated chuck berry, derek trucks & duane allman, stevie ray and jimi hendrix but they all kept it new....NOW If you wanna go ahead an base this on the # of hits someone has had then i guess he would make the list.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
I'm not stupid enough to pick who's "better" because that's impossible. And I don't think you understood what my post meant at all. You seem like you have a surface level thought process that's not keen on philosophical depth but rather a superficial blatancy that most people use to discuss. That's not to be insulting but I do think you really need to look at it on a deeper level.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
I get that he approached music a totally different way and thats great and it made him unique...but from a technical standpoint hes not as good.(thats taking into account, Knowledge of music and theory,and just plain ability)...and all of them would tell you that they are humbeled to be consider this but, should not be there, because the fact is that there is always someone better than you.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
What do you know about Frusciante's technical or theoretical ability? Do you know him personally? Sounds like you're trying to take a shot in the dark on what you think you know about him. Multiple magazines, interviewers, musicians, etc...have referred to him as a virtuoso and a prodigy. Even Rolling Stone comments that he's one of the most technically advanced rock guitarists which would put him up with Slash, Dave Navarro, Tom Morello, and other rock virtuosos still playing today.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
ROLLING STONES....THE SAME ROLLING STONES that put KURT COBAIN in the top 12 guitarists of all time...or the same that had JOAN JETT above ANGUS YOUNG....what do they know?
guitarblazin 4 years ago
Sounds like someone's got some sand in their vagina.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
OH GOOD one.... IM Just stating the facts here buddy, like it or not.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
No, that was just me giving up on countering the emptiness of your thought process. And Rolling Stone may not be the best magazine to quote, it's still more credible than you. Because you chose not to recognize Frusciante's is your own problem. You will never have any idea of the full capabilities of these three guitar players. However, Frusciante has done far more musically and in more directions than Trucks or Mayer put together.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
Ok, first off i did recognize him as a really good guitarist....And more directions?What Funk-Rock and Pop-Rock?thats it...Trucks Spands from blues, rock, middle eastern, carribean, etc...Now if u wanna say he's done a lot for music he has...(hes been around for 20 years, he better have done something)....And empty thought process...couldnt have been too empty if i was quoting something that you had.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
Actually John Frusciante has ventured through alternative rock, funk rock, funk metal, experimental rock, ambient music, New Wave, electronica, lo-fi, avant-garde, psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, Progressive rock, punk, blues, Ska, and reggae just to name a few. Try listening to all of his albums with RHCP plus their B-sides, then listen to his solo albums, his band called Ataxia, his work with The Mars Volta/Omar Rodríguez-López, and all of his live music.
6JCD 4 years ago
Thanks 6JCD!
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
ALRIGHT..if were gonna get all specific with the breaking down of the rock music catagories here of course its gonna look like a lot of directions...hell i can break down blues all day...Delta-blues, chicago-blues, jazz, acid-blues, blues-rock, westcoast-blues,soul-blues,funk-blues,jump-blues,gospel-blues,swamp-blues...i can do this all day and in every catagory..so dont throw a bunch of sub-catagories in there tryin to impress me.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
Yet, ironically, you named two subcategories as the only things that Frusciante has done. But when you compare it to who they've worked with, Trucks has generally only worked with Blues musicians. Where Frusciante is pretty much all over the board with Brian Eno, Snoop Dogg, Johnny Cash, The Mars Volta, Bob Forrest, Tricky, Joe Lally, Dave Gahan...Not to mention the places he's explored in his solo music. People like Frusciante are the future and people like Trucks keep the past alive.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
Frusciante was inspired by hip-hop,funk,and rock so it makes sense that he has worked with them just like Trucks was influenced by blues and rock(hence the Allman Brothers, Eric Clapton, etc.)John just doesnt do anything that WOWS me, granted he has lots of really good,catchy riffs, but nothing that makes me go "i wonder how hes's doing that" I've heard a lot of his improv. and its not that great...Yes hes a very underrated guitarist to some point, and im not trashing him. But others
guitarblazin 4 years ago
"Frusciante was inspired by hip-hop,funk,and rock"
John was not influenced by Hip hop. I also should say that he was influenced by so many different artists throughout his life, some being Frank Zappa & Co. and Black Flag/Circle Jerks as well as Jimi Hendrix. There are so many others. You've obviously only been exposed to his popular singles with RHCP.
135789 4 years ago
Sorry. Blues is blues. Trying to differentiate between those labels is complete bullshit. Alternative rock, funk rock, funk metal, experimental rock, ambient music, New Wave, electronica, lo-fi, avant-garde, psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, Hip hop Progressive rock, jazz, punk, blues, Ska, reggae, Etc. are all different genres of music. As for specifics, I'm not being specific at all.
The only thing you know about Frusciante is his name.
135789 4 years ago
Sorry..but there is a huge difference between delta blues and blues rock...listen to them sometime...the point is that its all under the blues category and all that stuff^^^^^ is under the rock category(excluding the obvious)
guitarblazin 4 years ago
Variety within the blues opposes any profound notion. Alternative rock, funk rock, funk metal, experimental rock, ambient music, New Wave, electronica, lo-fi, avant-garde, psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, Hip hop Progressive rock, jazz, punk, blues, Ska, reggae, Etc. are all different genres of music. Unlike the blues, rock music can be used to label a vast amount of different music. Even while saying that, all of the styles I've listed are quite different and are not Subcategories of the music.
135789 4 years ago
CORRECTION ...are not Subcategories of the same* music.
135789 4 years ago
psychedelic rock, acoustic rock, hip hop progressive rock, punk, funk-metal,experimental rock, alternative rock, and funk rock are ALL SUBCATAGORIES OF ROCK...Hence the word ROCK at the end...And the differnt types of blues are very differnt from one another you just have to listen for it and it can label anything too!!...Anything from Robert Johnson to Stevie Ray Vaughn- to Led Zeppelin to AC/DC
guitarblazin 4 years ago
and by the way, when i say he was influenced by rock.....THAT INCLUDES the likes of jimi hendrix and frank zappa..that should have been a NO BRAINER for ya there!
guitarblazin 4 years ago
Did I say that he wasn't influenced by Hendrix or Zappa? Did I say that they were not rock artists? You said that he was inspired by Hip hop which wasn't true.
135789 4 years ago
Hip hop is not a subcategory of rock and neither are funk, Ska, reggae, electronica, ambient music, jazz, avant-garde. Not to mention that Metal and Progressive music have developed into their own genres. Punk has also spawned distinctive genres such as new wave and lo-fi.
135789 4 years ago
Blues is not broad at all. If music is based in blues, you will not get much to work with from that. All of those blues players were influenced by many of the same people and there isn't much of a spectrum to choose from. I can match AC/DC to Zeppelin easily and Robert Johnson has had influence leading all the way up to that point. There's no comparison. It's not like Dream Theater is nearly similar to the Ramones, Depeche Mode or bands like Third World and Steel Pulse.
135789 4 years ago
The main difference if you're arguing the broadness or variation of the two categories is that any sub-genre of Blues still has to remain fundamentally bluesy. Rock doesn't have to stick to any fundamental sound. A lot of times music gets put under the rock category because 'labelers' don't know what else to call it. Arguably, that makes it the broadest and most variated genre compared to any.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
What??...Led Zeppelin blues are way different than the blues of say oh...Stevie Ray Vaughan, and the Robert Johnson delta blues are a lot different than people like Joe bonamassa and walter trout...Yes Rock is a very broad genre but the blues is too..its just not widely popular so many people dont know it.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
You may see them as "a lot different", but Bonamassa was influenced by Page and "SRV", as well as Clapton(who was influenced by Robert Johnson). Not to mention that Page, Bonamassa, "SRV" and Clapton were all influenced by Buddy Guy. Every guitarist obviously has their own phrasing, but in the blues they just use the habit that have been handed down. They can all be linked.
135789 4 years ago
Whether you hear Since I've Been Loving You, Texas Flood, Sweet Home Chicago, Crossroads, Killing Floor or even Red House, you can tell that they're blues because they all have the characteristics and format that have to link. Could you link The Ramones to Rush? Or either of those bands to The Police?
135789 4 years ago
It doesn't have to be 12 bar blues like those^^^^ to be considered blues or blues influence, it can also be just in your phrasing, thats why blues spands so much...yes rock is a broader genre but blues is not small...anyways this is getting off the topic, i dont care how many genres your considered to be in...it doesn't make you a great guitarist. Hell Angus Young and Stevie Ray Vaughan were only in one genre and they are phenomenal guitarists
guitarblazin 4 years ago
Tell me something I don't know. Eddie Van Halen and Kirk Hammett are blues based guitarists but those bands are not blues. Angus Young is not, never was and never will be a phenomenal guitarist. Guthrie Govan is a phenomenal guitarist.
135789 4 years ago
Yea but eddie and kirk also used a lot of harmonic minor scales witch is NOT considered blues...Angus and SRV used usually only minor pentatonic and dorian scales witch is very blues based...and yes i was a little hasty saying angus is a phenomenal guitarist but hes a great blues guitarist and i would go far enough to say better than john f., just cuz his music wasn't different doesnt mean it wasnt good.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
"Yea but eddie and kirk also used a lot of harmonic minor scales witch is NOT considered blues". I'm not sure how "witch" got involved in this conversation unless we're typing about Halloween or something. I also didn't notice Hammett and Van Halen using Harminc Minor. Provide examples.
135789 4 years ago
By the way, youtubeDOTcom/watch?v=QAHFvhmHu30 shows me his typically very Cliché licks. I also add that his studio solos all sound far too similar. He also hasn't done much to those solos when he plays them live either. Looking like a leprechaun going around the stage hasn't done anything for his playing.
135789 4 years ago
Of course they're ur normal licks he's a blue/rock gutiarist and he doesnt stray from that...and when he plays them live he does a whole bunch of breakdowns so he can show his ability...and running around on stage is not suppose to improve his playing its for show...but shooting up with heroin hasn't helped John any though.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
"he does a whole bunch of breakdowns so he can show his ability" From all that I've seen he sticks to playing them basically the same cliche way. The funniest thing is that he's only ever used licks that me and every other electric guitarist has ever used. The only thing is that I was using them as somwhat of a beginner after maybe 2 years of playing.
135789 4 years ago
Yes, but Angus Young and SRV at least had something new to say at their time. Trucks and Mayer are really not much more than re-creationists with a modern spin. Imagine if someone recreated the Mona Lisa and put modern day New York City in the background...Would you hail them as the modern painting genius of our time? I don't mean to downplay Truck's or Mayer's skills but if your life's work is recreating old styles, that's not really an accomplishment to me...
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
Im not saying that just trucks or mayer should be up there...but if this article is for guitar legends in the past 20 years where are people like Slash and kirk or joe satriani....w/out Eddie V. there could be no van halen, w/out slash there wuz no Guns n roses, w/out angus young there is no ac/dc, but w/out John f. Chili peppers did just fine.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
That's a really stupid argument. First of all, Slash, Satriani, and Kirk Hammett have all been on the circuit longer than 20 years. John started in 88'. Second, just because RHCP did ok without Frusciante doesn't mean he can't be considered a great guitar player. You just can't except the fact that John Frusciante has more to offer than most guitar players.
GermanJohnFru 4 years ago
Umm Appetite for destruction was 1987, satriani's Not of this earth wus in 1986..Wow a 1-2 year difference...What does he have to offer more than other guitarists...playing in a bunch of genres or having a bunch of hit songs doesnt make you a great guitar player..it might make the band he played in great but not him.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
At this point, I'm just going to believe that you're stupid. You attempts to discredit Frusciante are pathetic. What makes someone great musically is their influence over the current music scene. Plenty of people around the world have picked up the guitar because of his guitar work both in RHCP and solo. Plenty of musical figures have stated his guitar vituosity and musicianship.
GermanJohnFru 3 years ago 2
"but w/out John f. Chili peppers did just fine." Wow, you know your stuff. Mother's Milk and BSSM were their breakthrough records both with John. When he left they released One Hot Minute but it was poorly received by all. Then he came back to make Californication, By The Way and Stadium Arcadium which were all very successful. Without John the results
135789 4 years ago
"but w/out John f. Chili peppers did just fine" Are you purposely saying such funny things? John earned them their first two breakthrough albums and when he left they were poorly received. Since he has returned they have enjoyed three of their most successful albums. I also want to say that Michael Akerfeldt, Marty Friedman and Mike Einziger are all better choices than most of those mentioned here.
135789 4 years ago 3
btw...early police was a PUNK band.
guitarblazin 4 years ago
"btw...early police was a PUNK band." I don't know what you attempt to signify by saying that. Early Police were trying to play reggae. Andy Summers also has certain influences on his guitar playing.
135789 4 years ago
I went to Junior High with Frusciante and he brought in his guitar for show and tell in our homeroom class. It is great to hear his story about when he got his strat. I'm guessing that is what he had brought to class.
johncoltrain1 4 years ago
thats amazing lol i want to meet him sooo bad all of the chili peppers
soxsfanmyman14 4 years ago
haha mayer and trucks smoked frusciante
guitarist213 4 years ago
if they are going to put an old guy like John Frusciante on this cover then...WHERE THE FUCK IS TREY ANASTASIO!!!....I just can not believe that Trey is not on this cover....The Chili Peppers and Phish are both started around the same time....yet John is on the cover but not trey...Trey is known for his godly guitar....god damn....And FUCKING JOHN MAYER! over TREY!...MAyer is good, but he is an SRV rip off.
wharfrat89 4 years ago
that cas john frusciante is 1000000 times better then trey anastasio and alot more popular and so is john mayer hes an amazing guitarest
soxsfanmyman14 4 years ago
Trey is one of the greatest guitarist of all time..He has an original sound and "TONE" something many guitarist would die for. His technicality often baffles many guitarists..Just listen to any live phish album, However i also love Johns playing. I think John F also has that "tone". But trey should be on this cover too, thats all im saying.
wharfrat89 4 years ago
i agree 100% but he's not as popular as john f or the chili peppers
soxsfanmyman14 4 years ago
fetpipan... your ignorance is disappointing.
Kidz4556 4 years ago
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this is not blues...none of this is blues
blues comes from pain and it's black mans music..of all the people stevie ray is the only white guitarist that could do the blues..it's just embarrising to see john mayer and the other dude try to play the blues when they are just spoiled brants..
blues belongs on the street not in some silly magazine...
fetpipan77 4 years ago
tell that to eric clapton and doctor john.
felipecapulong 4 years ago 3
sorry I forgot clapton
fetpipan77 4 years ago
everyone goes through pain.
tinkerbellfreak 4 years ago 2
of course but still, blues is black mans music..
fetpipan77 4 years ago
thats the dumbist shit ive ever heard
soxsfanmyman14 4 years ago
education my friend, education
fetpipan77 4 years ago
you are talking about education??? OMG....u don't even realise what u said.......I'm amazed!
nonnonee 4 years ago
yA first comment!. great guitarist!. the next guitar god for sure!. thank god the blues will live on. not that it wont, but now we are sure it will. funny guys too, the NEXT GENERATION!!
Rockasist 4 years ago