I'm 23 years old trying to pay my way through school and I have to live with my parents still and work part time, while all the while a guy i went to high school with has no job and has 3 kids sits at home all day playing Xbox and goes out and buys new vehicles and has a nice house, brand new 3D LED tv's 3000 dollar PC's and all of this junk he didn't even have to work for as we the taxpayers hand him to the money to do it with. Lazy people in this country are going to have a rude wake up call.
Piss on em. This is what the people want now so this is what they get . Here's your big government and your Unions and your "cry me a river I'm a lazy piece of shit hooked on dope with 8 illegitimate kids" social welfare in action...Happy? Want some more? Apparently some of you do, you most likely voted for it. "The best arguement against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter." - Churchill Grrrr ...
@xUbastardx You are emotion-driven, not brain-driven, which is great in a lover but deadly in a social scientist. You think a dictator makes better decisions that the People? From all of history, I challange you to find 6. Take 100 voters: 30% are fascist idiots; 45% are wise and good; the rest float somewhere in between. That leaves 6% to be won over by the latter. I prefer those odds to the all or nothing mind-set of a Hitler or a Stalin.
@mc0558 Yea, perhaps I was a bit "emotional" when I posted that comment. I don't quite follow how you assume I prefer a dictator over a democratic republic though.. My Churchill quote at the end possibly? I certainly wouldn't tolerate a dictator man. As far as Im concerned though big governments can be nearly as opressive though. They are wasteful and shortsighted. Here another quote for ya. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions." Liberal folly.
@xUbastardx I believe that "government" is the highest form of rational human organization and that there is no reason why it cannot promote the general welfare efficiently and well. It's a matter of the People voting in honest and able representatives, and those representatives motivating public servants to do a good job. To abandon government in despair is to throw away a powerful tool for good.
@mc0558 In theroy your right I suppose. Theres alot of little wheels that need to turn in unison for it to function. Like a clock. I am not saying abandon government. A am saying minimize it. Keep a stong millitary, make sure states abide by the laws of the land and leave the rest to your citizens. Sure make some allowances for social welfare assistance programs but keep them small and fundamental. Capitalism breeds prosperity and charity. We'll be ok. We don't need a fat bully government.
@rtshchand Protectionism is a vital remedy for a certain period of time, but it is only very short-term. Otherwise it becomes the short route to monopoly, artificial prosperity, stagnation and decline. The only real remedy is to use technology to reduce per unit labour cost and to develop new products people want and are able to buy. The big problem is the excessive profit retailer middle men like Walmart are demanding from every item they import and sell at 3-400% profit.
i want my boss to pay me in .9999 gold coins for my labor 40 hour work week , not worthless paper dollars. i want to be free. this is a sign of decline of a weathy nation.
We need to change the food stamp program. People shouldn't be able to buy shopping carts full of junk food with the taxpayers' dollars, then end up with diabetes and other chronic, life shortening diseases.
We need to redistribute income in every way that we can. The more people who have the means to buy even the basics, the better the economy will be for everyone, especially the rich. The more we cut back on welfare of every kind, the more curtail mass consumption. It may seem right to you to cut food stamps, unemployment conpensation (the dole), etc. but you are being short-sighted.
Income redistribution is in everyone's best interest.
A helping hand, but not endless handouts. People should not live on redistributed money for generations. You don't want to dampen motivation on getting ahead. In fact, I believe the (US) welfare programs of the past had trapped blacks into endless poverty. It kept them down. They had food and shelter, but no job to gain clout and get ahead.
I get your point, but it is good to remember also that though individuals may suffer as a result of assistance being too available for their own good, the economy as a whole does not suffer. Moreover, what we have today is endless corporate hand outs. It makes you wonder, doesn't it? A lot of those who had "get up and go" stole the family silverware, doing for more harm to us all than the poor sods who stayed home and lived off food stamps.
The problem is that a helping hand inevitably turns into endless handouts. Its Human Nature for the people to look at one helping hand type of policy and ask, "Thats not fair, Why are'nt I getting that?" Then they become a Union or a large faction who the Government, who does'nt want to speak the truth and hold people accountable for there own lives while trying to get as much power as they can for the short term, will inevitably cave in to most demands for assistance. It wont work here!!!!!!!
@roofer10 By far the most numerous and biggest recipients of helping handouts from the government are the super-duper champions of hee-man capitalism, the corporate executives and Wall Street bankers. It's every man for himself, provided he makes under $200 thou a year. Above that, the government must rescue because without them capitalism won't work. Wink Wink!
@yogeedogee Many people just don't have the ability or temperment for constant employment or to earn a decent wage when they do work. You would be surprised at just how many are inarticulate, know nothing and lack marketable skills. Yet they have children. We can't sterilize them or let the children starve in the streets just because their parents are inadequate.
@mc0558 Most of it is drugs, alcohol and other vices. Giving people everything they need doesn't work. We had changed the old welfare program in the late 1990s, because it made too many people dependent on the government. The program had become so twisted that 12 year old girls thought that having a baby and getting the free taxpayer apartment, food stamps, etc. was independence.
I know it is a hard problem to solve, but keeping people comfortable at the taxpayers' expense is not the answer.
@yogeedogee Purchasing power in the hands even of those who don't deserve it sustains those who work hard and do deserve. Economics isn't a morality play. It's a drama of supply and demand. Without the latter, there isn't the former.
@mc0558 Unearned purchasing power is a BIG drag on the economy. I don't mind a helping hand, but not a hand out, especially going on for years. It is morally and ethically WRONG. It sends the wrong message. THEY NEED TO WORK FOR IT, IF THEY WANT IT!!!
@yogeedogee Handouts! Would you exchange that for a career in a job you love? No! They are not gaining anything!! Forget about "them". Their kids need to be helped not to suffer because of their parents. Moreover, these losers serve a useful purpose as agents of demand. Demand stimulates supply; supply stimulates jobs and economic growth PROVIDED it COMES FROM THE COUNTRY IN WHICH THE DEMAND ORIGINATES. That is your problem--the trillions moving to China, India and the rest of Asia.
Oh really. Income redistribution not only does'nt make sense because it defy's reason but it is immoral. It is not right to take from one person and give to another by force. Secondly, know your history and wake up. This type of Economic forceful Government that you want so badly ends up enslaving the very people it says it is there to help. Over regulating the Business' everywhere, esp. Detroit, creates them climate for them to go under. Then you have what we have here. Mass Unemployment.
@roofer10, I agree! Also, Michigan didn't diversify business, because they thought ALL their employment needs for the people were met (Auto Unions). Now, that state is in big trouble. Even the citizens of Michigan became complacent and didn't acquire new skills, because the unions kept them fat and happy. Many are paying for it now.
@roofer10 No! It's income redistribution for the rich. F--k the poor and the needy! Those he have the most need the most--it's a well known rule of the market economy..
@roofer10 It does make sense and whether or not it's moral is irrelevant. Hard working manufacturers and merchantsis are happy to have a customers.
But America's real problem is that is wealth is flying abroad in vast quantity, because the American consumer prefers paying coolie workers $2. a day rather than a unionised, well paid American worker $200. a day. And American politicians find it politically smart to allow this to proceed. So Shanghai booms and New York stagnates.
You don't have to go to the slums. Go anywhere in America and all you see is stagnation. Most of the infrastructure is at at least 40 years old. We produce services; others produce things. Americans industry is on its knees because Americans are contented to buy their products from abroad. China's economy grows 10-15%, and its all industry. The capital flow is from us to them.
Wall Street is not the problem. The productive base of the economy is dying and people are getting poorer.
kierong - I'm American and feel overall the British are far better off. You have the NHS. Our medical system is the worst in the world. The British system at least takes care of its citizens. Americans are dying because of greedy insurance companies refusing medical coverage.
To me it is as if the entire business and political leadership of the US are traitors. And indeed, what percentage of the executives that work on Wall Street are Americans? I know several--all European. We saw those Wall Street bosses being examined by Congress. The were 3 rate dolts. Incredibly dull and stupid!
American is being sold down the river, and it deserves to be sold down the river. For 50 years now, the American people have preferred TV to reality, but reality will not be denied.
I hear you. I have worked with other cultures and the difference is major. America needs good Leadership and good labor. We also do not need an influx of fanatics living here, that will not help either. The Asian culture is quite impressive, the rest can stay home, (no offense).
I have just returned from Beijing. We went with two suitcases and came back with 6. I am not a shopaholic, but everything there cost a tenth of what it does in America and Europe. I took 14 people to dinner. It was a banquet. We consumed 6 Beijing ducks and, and, and. A beautiful restaurant. The cost was 920 RMB, or 92 Euros. We bought cashmere pull overs for 40 RMB each, leather purses for 120 RMB. A taxi ride from the East to the West of this enormous city costs 59 RMB.
They make a lot less in China, so it isn't surprising the items that you bought were cheaper. I also heard that they don't have universal health care. You pay as you go. Although, the government takes care of the citizens' housing, I don't think they have property rights there.
I was in Beijing and cannot speak for the whole country, especially for the peasantry (75% of the population) whose condition I understand is much worse than that of people in the cities. However, there IS universal health care. It is not everywhere of equal quality, but it is there. A lot of the housing in the cities is privately owned but the land it's built on belongs to the state. Owners only have a right to use it. People's whose land is confiscated are compensated. It isn't so different!
My info is from a Chinese citizen, who works here professionally (USA). He has not been here that long and his father is a doctor in China. It makes me wonder why he doesn't return to China, perhaps I'll ask him sometime. On the property rights, I do see your point, but you can't fight it in China, but here you have the right to fight it.
No, in China there is no fighting the government. It blocks YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and much, including all porn. I accidentally found through Google a way around the block to YouTube; next day it was blocked. The state looms large. But people believe that because the President is elected (by the Parliament) China's a democracy. People are very patriotic. Soldiers are smartly dressed, disciplined and well-drilled are very proud of themselves. KFC and Macdonalds are full. So life is not dull..
Too many Americans are fat, therefore they die early. This is a recent problem. Smoking was the issue in the 1980s and earlier.
12% in poverty isn't too bad actually. That means 88% aren't living in poverty.
Why did people buy those homes at such high prices? Not too bright. I warned a few people at the time, but they didn't listen. Now, we all pay for their stupidity.
People who let their apetites runs wild--gorge themselves, physical and intellectual lassitude, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, sex--are pigs and should be treated like pigs.
Which hell are you talking about? It is hell watching the U.S. in decline, but most of life there isn't hell yet. You've got a decent President, if only you'd support him, instead of carping away. And you have an ingenious population capable of coming up with the technologies and services that will revolutionize your economic circumstances over night. So there is always hope!
I'm 23 years old trying to pay my way through school and I have to live with my parents still and work part time, while all the while a guy i went to high school with has no job and has 3 kids sits at home all day playing Xbox and goes out and buys new vehicles and has a nice house, brand new 3D LED tv's 3000 dollar PC's and all of this junk he didn't even have to work for as we the taxpayers hand him to the money to do it with. Lazy people in this country are going to have a rude wake up call.
DAY0FDOOM 9 months ago
ah, now i see, you are a communist. well, people like you shouldn't even live in the us
tubbyboy1985 1 year ago
Looks like a typical negro neighborhood. What's your point? haha!
browneyes4 1 year ago
i understand your view, i mean, we can use eggs, bread, nuts for money at least we can eat it. but they go bad, gold is the only real money.
Rico8458 1 year ago
Piss on em. This is what the people want now so this is what they get . Here's your big government and your Unions and your "cry me a river I'm a lazy piece of shit hooked on dope with 8 illegitimate kids" social welfare in action...Happy? Want some more? Apparently some of you do, you most likely voted for it. "The best arguement against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter." - Churchill Grrrr ...
xUbastardx 1 year ago
@xUbastardx You are emotion-driven, not brain-driven, which is great in a lover but deadly in a social scientist. You think a dictator makes better decisions that the People? From all of history, I challange you to find 6. Take 100 voters: 30% are fascist idiots; 45% are wise and good; the rest float somewhere in between. That leaves 6% to be won over by the latter. I prefer those odds to the all or nothing mind-set of a Hitler or a Stalin.
mc0558 1 year ago
@mc0558 So I take it that you are in the 30 percentile.
roofer10 1 year ago
@mc0558 Yea, perhaps I was a bit "emotional" when I posted that comment. I don't quite follow how you assume I prefer a dictator over a democratic republic though.. My Churchill quote at the end possibly? I certainly wouldn't tolerate a dictator man. As far as Im concerned though big governments can be nearly as opressive though. They are wasteful and shortsighted. Here another quote for ya. "The road to Hell is paved with good intentions." Liberal folly.
xUbastardx 1 year ago
@xUbastardx I believe that "government" is the highest form of rational human organization and that there is no reason why it cannot promote the general welfare efficiently and well. It's a matter of the People voting in honest and able representatives, and those representatives motivating public servants to do a good job. To abandon government in despair is to throw away a powerful tool for good.
mc0558 1 year ago
@mc0558 In theroy your right I suppose. Theres alot of little wheels that need to turn in unison for it to function. Like a clock. I am not saying abandon government. A am saying minimize it. Keep a stong millitary, make sure states abide by the laws of the land and leave the rest to your citizens. Sure make some allowances for social welfare assistance programs but keep them small and fundamental. Capitalism breeds prosperity and charity. We'll be ok. We don't need a fat bully government.
xUbastardx 1 year ago
God the solution is so simple, charge large tax on companies that import from china.
rtshchand 1 year ago
@rtshchand Protectionism is a vital remedy for a certain period of time, but it is only very short-term. Otherwise it becomes the short route to monopoly, artificial prosperity, stagnation and decline. The only real remedy is to use technology to reduce per unit labour cost and to develop new products people want and are able to buy. The big problem is the excessive profit retailer middle men like Walmart are demanding from every item they import and sell at 3-400% profit.
mc0558 1 year ago
i want my boss to pay me in .9999 gold coins for my labor 40 hour work week , not worthless paper dollars. i want to be free. this is a sign of decline of a weathy nation.
Rico8458 1 year ago
@Rico8458 Gold has somekind of inherent value, does it? To me it is only a fetish.
mc0558 1 year ago
We need to change the food stamp program. People shouldn't be able to buy shopping carts full of junk food with the taxpayers' dollars, then end up with diabetes and other chronic, life shortening diseases.
yogeedogee 2 years ago
We need to redistribute income in every way that we can. The more people who have the means to buy even the basics, the better the economy will be for everyone, especially the rich. The more we cut back on welfare of every kind, the more curtail mass consumption. It may seem right to you to cut food stamps, unemployment conpensation (the dole), etc. but you are being short-sighted.
Income redistribution is in everyone's best interest.
mc0558 2 years ago
A helping hand, but not endless handouts. People should not live on redistributed money for generations. You don't want to dampen motivation on getting ahead. In fact, I believe the (US) welfare programs of the past had trapped blacks into endless poverty. It kept them down. They had food and shelter, but no job to gain clout and get ahead.
yogeedogee 2 years ago
I get your point, but it is good to remember also that though individuals may suffer as a result of assistance being too available for their own good, the economy as a whole does not suffer. Moreover, what we have today is endless corporate hand outs. It makes you wonder, doesn't it? A lot of those who had "get up and go" stole the family silverware, doing for more harm to us all than the poor sods who stayed home and lived off food stamps.
mc0558 2 years ago
The problem is that a helping hand inevitably turns into endless handouts. Its Human Nature for the people to look at one helping hand type of policy and ask, "Thats not fair, Why are'nt I getting that?" Then they become a Union or a large faction who the Government, who does'nt want to speak the truth and hold people accountable for there own lives while trying to get as much power as they can for the short term, will inevitably cave in to most demands for assistance. It wont work here!!!!!!!
roofer10 2 years ago
@roofer10 By far the most numerous and biggest recipients of helping handouts from the government are the super-duper champions of hee-man capitalism, the corporate executives and Wall Street bankers. It's every man for himself, provided he makes under $200 thou a year. Above that, the government must rescue because without them capitalism won't work. Wink Wink!
mc0558 1 year ago
@yogeedogee Many people just don't have the ability or temperment for constant employment or to earn a decent wage when they do work. You would be surprised at just how many are inarticulate, know nothing and lack marketable skills. Yet they have children. We can't sterilize them or let the children starve in the streets just because their parents are inadequate.
mc0558 1 year ago
@mc0558 Most of it is drugs, alcohol and other vices. Giving people everything they need doesn't work. We had changed the old welfare program in the late 1990s, because it made too many people dependent on the government. The program had become so twisted that 12 year old girls thought that having a baby and getting the free taxpayer apartment, food stamps, etc. was independence.
I know it is a hard problem to solve, but keeping people comfortable at the taxpayers' expense is not the answer.
yogeedogee 1 year ago
@yogeedogee Purchasing power in the hands even of those who don't deserve it sustains those who work hard and do deserve. Economics isn't a morality play. It's a drama of supply and demand. Without the latter, there isn't the former.
mc0558 1 year ago
@mc0558 Unearned purchasing power is a BIG drag on the economy. I don't mind a helping hand, but not a hand out, especially going on for years. It is morally and ethically WRONG. It sends the wrong message. THEY NEED TO WORK FOR IT, IF THEY WANT IT!!!
yogeedogee 1 year ago
@yogeedogee Handouts! Would you exchange that for a career in a job you love? No! They are not gaining anything!! Forget about "them". Their kids need to be helped not to suffer because of their parents. Moreover, these losers serve a useful purpose as agents of demand. Demand stimulates supply; supply stimulates jobs and economic growth PROVIDED it COMES FROM THE COUNTRY IN WHICH THE DEMAND ORIGINATES. That is your problem--the trillions moving to China, India and the rest of Asia.
mc0558 1 year ago
Oh really. Income redistribution not only does'nt make sense because it defy's reason but it is immoral. It is not right to take from one person and give to another by force. Secondly, know your history and wake up. This type of Economic forceful Government that you want so badly ends up enslaving the very people it says it is there to help. Over regulating the Business' everywhere, esp. Detroit, creates them climate for them to go under. Then you have what we have here. Mass Unemployment.
roofer10 2 years ago
@roofer10, I agree! Also, Michigan didn't diversify business, because they thought ALL their employment needs for the people were met (Auto Unions). Now, that state is in big trouble. Even the citizens of Michigan became complacent and didn't acquire new skills, because the unions kept them fat and happy. Many are paying for it now.
yogeedogee 2 years ago
@roofer10 No! It's income redistribution for the rich. F--k the poor and the needy! Those he have the most need the most--it's a well known rule of the market economy..
mc0558 1 year ago
@roofer10 It does make sense and whether or not it's moral is irrelevant. Hard working manufacturers and merchantsis are happy to have a customers.
But America's real problem is that is wealth is flying abroad in vast quantity, because the American consumer prefers paying coolie workers $2. a day rather than a unionised, well paid American worker $200. a day. And American politicians find it politically smart to allow this to proceed. So Shanghai booms and New York stagnates.
mc0558 1 year ago
song ruins video
mcnabj 2 years ago
46th in life expectancies. That because us Americans are fat, ugly, stupid and mean.
masturbate2much 3 years ago
jealous
RoyaleMcChicken 2 years ago 2
Aw go play with your _____.
AmericanMale1953 2 years ago
Lack of education, cultural decline, immorality, feminism = Decline of west
kieronj 3 years ago 7
killing people for resource, exploiting third world countries, imperialism
cyanide533 3 years ago 3
imperialism??? Smoking again?
yogeedogee 2 years ago
OK! Keep it coming! More struggle from your neck of the woods. Let people see what they can do.
PeoplesVideo 3 years ago
You don't have to go to the slums. Go anywhere in America and all you see is stagnation. Most of the infrastructure is at at least 40 years old. We produce services; others produce things. Americans industry is on its knees because Americans are contented to buy their products from abroad. China's economy grows 10-15%, and its all industry. The capital flow is from us to them.
Wall Street is not the problem. The productive base of the economy is dying and people are getting poorer.
mc0558 3 years ago
So true dude and I'm British! Japan kicked US ass by the 90s and had took over everything and now China will do the same. UK is fucked also!
kieronj 3 years ago 6
kierong - I'm American and feel overall the British are far better off. You have the NHS. Our medical system is the worst in the world. The British system at least takes care of its citizens. Americans are dying because of greedy insurance companies refusing medical coverage.
meg3325 2 years ago
To me it is as if the entire business and political leadership of the US are traitors. And indeed, what percentage of the executives that work on Wall Street are Americans? I know several--all European. We saw those Wall Street bosses being examined by Congress. The were 3 rate dolts. Incredibly dull and stupid!
American is being sold down the river, and it deserves to be sold down the river. For 50 years now, the American people have preferred TV to reality, but reality will not be denied.
mc0558 2 years ago
I hear you. I have worked with other cultures and the difference is major. America needs good Leadership and good labor. We also do not need an influx of fanatics living here, that will not help either. The Asian culture is quite impressive, the rest can stay home, (no offense).
AmericanMale1953 2 years ago
@kieronj no wonder the UK is fucked. take a look at how dumb you are. but don't worry, we-ll help the us
tubbyboy1985 1 year ago
The CULTURE is the issue.
Too much emphasis on things that are meaningless.
OJ Simpson is a good example.
Education is not first.
Partying and "Fun" is more important...
AmericanMale1953 2 years ago
I have just returned from Beijing. We went with two suitcases and came back with 6. I am not a shopaholic, but everything there cost a tenth of what it does in America and Europe. I took 14 people to dinner. It was a banquet. We consumed 6 Beijing ducks and, and, and. A beautiful restaurant. The cost was 920 RMB, or 92 Euros. We bought cashmere pull overs for 40 RMB each, leather purses for 120 RMB. A taxi ride from the East to the West of this enormous city costs 59 RMB.
mc0558 2 years ago
They make a lot less in China, so it isn't surprising the items that you bought were cheaper. I also heard that they don't have universal health care. You pay as you go. Although, the government takes care of the citizens' housing, I don't think they have property rights there.
yogeedogee 2 years ago
I was in Beijing and cannot speak for the whole country, especially for the peasantry (75% of the population) whose condition I understand is much worse than that of people in the cities. However, there IS universal health care. It is not everywhere of equal quality, but it is there. A lot of the housing in the cities is privately owned but the land it's built on belongs to the state. Owners only have a right to use it. People's whose land is confiscated are compensated. It isn't so different!
mc0558 2 years ago
My info is from a Chinese citizen, who works here professionally (USA). He has not been here that long and his father is a doctor in China. It makes me wonder why he doesn't return to China, perhaps I'll ask him sometime. On the property rights, I do see your point, but you can't fight it in China, but here you have the right to fight it.
yogeedogee 2 years ago
No, in China there is no fighting the government. It blocks YouTube, Twitter, Facebook and much, including all porn. I accidentally found through Google a way around the block to YouTube; next day it was blocked. The state looms large. But people believe that because the President is elected (by the Parliament) China's a democracy. People are very patriotic. Soldiers are smartly dressed, disciplined and well-drilled are very proud of themselves. KFC and Macdonalds are full. So life is not dull..
mc0558 2 years ago
AmericanMale1953, Right on!
yogeedogee 2 years ago
Too many Americans are fat, therefore they die early. This is a recent problem. Smoking was the issue in the 1980s and earlier.
12% in poverty isn't too bad actually. That means 88% aren't living in poverty.
Why did people buy those homes at such high prices? Not too bright. I warned a few people at the time, but they didn't listen. Now, we all pay for their stupidity.
yogeedogee 3 years ago
People who let their apetites runs wild--gorge themselves, physical and intellectual lassitude, cigarettes, alcohol, drugs, sex--are pigs and should be treated like pigs.
mc0558 2 years ago
Welcome to hell! Enjoy your stay.
mogilny89p 3 years ago
Which hell are you talking about? It is hell watching the U.S. in decline, but most of life there isn't hell yet. You've got a decent President, if only you'd support him, instead of carping away. And you have an ingenious population capable of coming up with the technologies and services that will revolutionize your economic circumstances over night. So there is always hope!
mc0558 2 years ago
@mc0558 He's here to support me, im the one paying the bills.
mogilny89p 1 year ago