How to Spray a Bike with Rattle Cans Part 2 - Riparato Fixed Gear

[tomdmcpwn]

hey man. My dad and me are making a fixie for me and were going with a black paint with white lugs.

were having some trouble with painting the frame without hitting the lugs. should we just paint it and hand paint the lugs? sorry if its an unclear question, i tried to word it the best i can!

[riparato]

@tomdmcpwn i think if it were mine, i would spray the frame black first. You could then try white enamel paint, and a nice new small brush, with good quality bristles.

Other wise its a case of trying to mask off the frame with masking tape and a sharp scalpel, and then spraying white. A fiddly job. It depends on how ornate the lugs are i guess. Let me know how you get on!

Paul

riparato

[ukdodger]

Hi. Impressive demo. Best I've seen on the net. I've built my own frame and would like to go all the way and spray it as well. I dont though have any extraction facilities. How about doing it in the open air say the garden? Thanks

[riparato]

@ukdodger maybe not the garden!!!

Get a decent mask, like a p2 or even p3 rated dust vapor mask, and go to the shed?

[dankeroner]

why would u paint the seat post?are u painting the bottom bracket too? whats going on here buddy?

[riparato]

@dankeroner . Well, it's the old seat post. I drilled a hole in it so i could hang it up, and get access to the entire bike all at once. This makes spraying easier.

As for the bottom bracket, it was masked off right up to this coat, but i decided to hit it with another coat of color and forgot to put the bungs back in. No matter though, it can be carefully scraped out after it's dry, so it's aaaaalllllll goooooooooood buddy.

[riparato]

no need to use clear coat with montana cans. I never bother, and my bikes been wet PLENTY!!!

[youwitdaface69]

was the original colour red? and what would be a good tip to keep the coat even?

[riparato]

@youwitdaface69 no it wasn't red! It was white and blue. Even coats can be achieved by keeping the can moving at all times at a smooth steady pace. dont ever stop moving the can whilst spraying cos you missed a bit. This will just cause a drip or run, and that is a bugger. Just keep moving and get it on the next pass.

[riparato]

@goeharder about 15 to 20 mins between coats. No more, no less.

[riparato]

hi all.

The frame is a raleigh equipe for those who were asking.

Yes it matters if there is rust on your frame. IT WILL COME THROUGH EVENTUALLY

20 mins between each coat. The paint will be tacky, if you try to sand it, you'll ruin it!!

Light sand or wire wool before you shoot color.

i sand the frame once all the paints off. Just enough to give the paint something to key too.

yes, we do customs. just mail us.

Assembly vid on the way

nice one

paul, riparato

[Vascillate]

Do you have any instructional vids on how you put together your fixed gear conversions? I'd be interested to see how you guys do it with frames like the Raleigh Equipe in this vid.

[Vascillate]

This vid was really helpful to me. I used it for inspiration and advice during the restoration of my old bike.

I'm really pleased with how it turned out. I was apprehensive before I started about getting it right but it was much easier than I thought. Using lots of thin coats is def the way to go. Cheers man.

[riparato]

@Vascillate glad to help. Please send some pics to us, we can put them on our main site if you want.

[adammatsui]

will it matter if i have rust marks on my bike?

[riparato]

@adammatsui yes, the rust will come through, either sand it right out of wire brush it out. DOMT LEAVE IT!!

[orangefish10]

do you need to sand it first? if so how much

[riparato]

@orangefish10 i sand before priming. 120 grit just to give a nice key for the paint to bond too. Dont go mad.

[riparato]

Hi, doesn't really matter how old your bike is to be honest. Obviously, if it's rare and worth a load of dosh, then you might want to be sympathetic to the original and restore it to something like it's former glory. Fear isn't really something you need to have on your mind when spraying a bike. It's not scary! Just take your time, prepare the frame properly. Go for many light coats for your first bike and you will do fine. The more coats you do, the more confident you will feel. DO IT!!!!

[bacholerno2]

Hey, my bike is like 30-40 years old (a shopper bike) and I want to repaint it. I'm really scared about doing it! Do you think there will be problems with spraying an older bike?

[riparato]

@bacholerno2 did you respray yet. I want to see this shopper, want to do one myself one day!

[1sn00py2]

wt kind of frame is that

[riparato]

@1sn00py2 its a 70's raleigh equipe!

[marlo916]

your coats look pretty heavy... you said this was graffiti paint?

[riparato]

@marlo916 yes it's the final color coat. I laid it up heavy, so i could polish it up nice once it had cured.

[iqy]

how do you dry em off? how long does it take with a spray can? and wat kind of environment it shud be placed to leave it to dry? i tried mine..it doesnt go smooth.. need advice :D good vid! thanks.

[riparato]

@iqy dry it in your house, in a room that gets the least use so no ones tripping over it. one coat takes as long as the vid!

[riparato]

and if you do a crappy job, it seems the rat look is in, so nothing lost!

[riparato]

Apologies to those who feel we wasted their time with this video. It's not high speed action, it's how we to apply one coat of paint to a bike from start to finish. There isn't much instruction as such, but you can get the rough idea of where to start and finish. Using long smooth straight strokes will give good coverage and a nice build up of paint throughout the coats. Good luck!

[riparato]

The key reason for using rattle cans here, is mainly about just getting stuck in, preparing and spraying your own frames. I find it very rewarding to get such a good finish from a rattle can. You can probably get it done professionally for a little more money and far less work. Spraying your own bikes with rattle cans isn't everyones cup of tea, but we like doing it. It gives the whole thing a slightly ghetto air, which sits nicely with fixed gear bikes we think.

[riparato]

I dont use clear coat. I have found that the original riparato bike's paint is so tough now. It has one chip in nearly two years, and that was where i smashed it hard accidently with a d-lock. It's tough paint if you let it set well before abusing it.

[riparato]

It's very true that this type of paint is designed to cure hard and fast. This is fine for grafitti, as it's generally very few layers of paint. When you lay up six good coats of paint, you have to wait quite a while for the paint to gas off. When you can no longer smell the fumes from the paint, it's basically dry. I've sprayed bikes mid winter, and when tested with a thumb nail, it's left a depression after 1 week. I leave it two, as assembly is far less strssful. Tacky paint will get ruined!

[riparato]

Spraying outside isn't the best of ideas, It keeps the fumes away, but the slightest breeze can throw up dust and your next job will be cutting the paint back to remove this.

[riparato]

Hi guys, just reading over and approving a few comments. Thanks for watching. This video was shot purely as an exercise for a more in depth video. I was going to explain what i was doing as i went along, but it's quite loud in the spray booth. I wasn't wearing a mask, as i wanted to talk whilst spraying. I normally wear a vapour mask, which cuts out all the bad fumes. So you should really wear a mask for spraying.

[riparato]

it's a raleigh equipe

[SuperStefano1995]

is this a cilo? 

[mrvanilla100]

Thanks but my tekneak is to slap on primer 2 coats 4 coats of colour and 1lacker

[riparato]

@mrvanilla100 nice one. whatever works for you is fine by me!! Thanks

[riparato]

You can get them from the london graphics company. If you're in the uk, anywhere else just look online, plenty of places stock it.

[TRIZZY96]

um were can I get that kind of spray cans ?

[Vascillate]

@TRIZZY96 - I just got some from here Artifolk. Cheap and quick delivery. HTH

[riparato]

hi, if the frame is already good, you could cut down the number of primer coats to maybe 2. As for color coats you could get away with four. It's up to you. I'm pretty set on laying down lots of color coats because it resists chips better that way i find. you've done the right thing to key the rest of the frame. If you're ok at spraying try to lay up the primer nice and thick. Halfords is ok, i prefer the plasticote metal primer, but thats just personal taste. Montana is great paint though.

[Vascillate]

@riparato - nice one, I havn't got the primer yet so maybe I will go for the plasticote (should I get a white primer to go under B. Blue or doesn't it matter?). Also should I sand with wet/dry after priming, in between top coats and before I put the varnish/gloss finish on? Thanks alot.

[Vascillate]

Hello mate, I'm just about to do my first paint job on an old MTB frame.The frame already had a pretty good paint job (just a few chips) so all I've done is sand out the chips and put a key on the rest of the paint surface. It's now ready to prime/paint so do you still think I need 4 coats primer and 6 top coats? I'm also gonna be using Montana Gold (baby blue) and a varnish gloss finish. For primer I was just gonna get a 500ml can of Halfords metal primer. Any advice would b appreciated. cheers

[rsjd11]

hey man! beautiful job! what are your recommendations on sanding the paint? would it be best to sand in between coats or at the end when everything is finished?

keep up the good work!

[DC0nsie]

I have to sand all da old colour off first den spray it ......wud I need priner

[SoobaaSteve]

do you make people fixed gears

[iAaronEFG]

not my choice of color on a fix. :/

[c3lticmatt]

Thanks for these videos, very useful as I am just about to try repainting an old road bike frame as part of my fixie build.

Do you use any type of clear coat on top?

[snerfsnerfman]

u should do i vid on making desines on it

[aelitasweet]

MONTANA???

[bikegirl2]

fixed gear = broken cock!

[davidbmx512]

where did you get that paint????

[xXUK1]

Wow at 5:45 is when the fun part begging s!!!!

[SuperTunaface]

hey, did you put clear coat, should I put some, just for protection?

[KAJ1114]

Great video! Before you began repainting, what did you first use to strip the old paint from the frame and forks? Thanks mate. The baby blue looks very clean, I'm liking it.

[GoWxAddict781]

whats coats mean?

[ceusernamesamipun]

nice work,i will respray my bike and i find this vid helpful:)

[liamtennick123]

boring yawn

[BallisticTristan]

Yay. A video of watching paint dry

[rippinlt]

oh i forgot!? what song/beat is this..sick

[rippinlt]

is the paint strong and hold well to chipping once complete?

[theeroom]

great video.

What if i want to paint over existing glossed paint>>? would i need to sand it down to make it rough? or would i be able to paint straight onto the exsiting varnished paint?

thx :P

[joriel360]

lol montanas lol Graffitti paint lol definetly a good choice they always have great colors lol

[didyadoya]

did you clear coat it at the end

[didyadoya]

did you put any clear coat etc.... on last or did you just stick with the montana gold?

[dav1disradical]

I noticed that you take a while to let the paint dry, you said at least one month in your last video I believe? That paint is designed to stick and dry very fast, I'd say only a week or two.

[NeilPiersRobinson]

Thanks for the vid - Very useful as I'm currently stripping and respraying a mixte frame as a restoration / fun project.

I get what the other person said about it being a 'boring video' but for me it was very useful! I was looking for instruction rather than entertainment and this vid was very helpful :)

[chrispsl]

riparato, i take it thats one coat you've put on there, it seems like a big one; but then maybe i should stop watching videos by people who aren't professionals!! Can i ask do you advise spraying outside (provided its not windy) because i have no where else i can do it?

[Guglielmo152]

Is there any techniques or can you just spray from top to bottom?

[theplaidmonkey]

this doesn't explain much

[jaytjuh575]

montana gold graffiti can!

[iBrianPurple]

i have a brand new frame that i got from my friend for only 50 bucks so i wanna paint it but do i have to sand it down or can i just put the primer and star painting, because i want to know if the quality of the paint job will look the same?

[partyongarth420]

expecially since your spraying inside.. you should be using a mask.. i imagine some light spray paint fumes is worst than smoking a pack of cigarettes

[mrpeepe]

How much did u sand it down before hand? I am thinking about re building by old bike as it is probs cheaper then buying a new one, but i don't have a clue about spraying =P

[elfasa]

hi, im going to do a restoration on an old road bike i have, making it into a nice fun single speed run around. im going to make it all white, with bblack forks, thats irrelivant though. my question is, ive tried sanding bike frames before, its very hard, very long and very boring. is there a better way to prepare the frame and forks?

[Rawr454]

Was that a Centurion?

[Rawr454]

Was that a Centurion?

[riparato]

I use 4 coats primer and 6 coats minimum of top coat (color)

[hookahlords]

How many coats of primer do you use????

[majicmankevin]

try a belton/molotow paint its good shit

[riparato]

Using these cans, i find i get a better finish spraying in close like that thanks. It depends on what your using and how good your technique is. The final finish on this bike was very flat, so i don't have a problem with my can distances.

[SteathAirsoftCrew]

ur spraying 2 close

[riparato]

Thanks leeeeeeni, glad you like the color. Spraying is pretty boring to watch, but i wanted to show the complete process, to try and help people see how I spray from start to finish.

[leeeeni]

nice color, but the vid is very boring...

[riparato]

absolutely right shadow3lement!!!!! it is a great paint! Have you used any other paints that are better than montana?

Paul

riparato fixed gear

[mejjop]

yeah im in the graffiti world and montana is good qaulity.. but theres always been this kinda argument in the graffiti world on which can is better, Montana(the one ur using in the video) and another company also called Montana(a spain company)

[shadow3lement]

If your gonna use can's might aswell go with the best. Montana has ALOT of pigments on their paint you really have to shake it well to get the full effect. It does not drip and can be used in like 20* weather and up to 104* this is a true tagging company that has amazing paint that can be used on anything. Any montana on a car/bike with some clear coat would look amazing.

[riparato]

thanks brainfood. Yeah i have two bikes painted with MONTANA and it really just gets tougher and tougher. The original fixed, in green, is so tough, most people dont believe it is rattle can spray paint. I can totally recommend this paint. Check the color chart options too, HUGE!!

[riparato]

Thanks luvandsound! I'm sure if you take your time with the prep and spraying stages it will look amazing. It's just about be focused on what your doing and most of all enjoying it.

A lot of people think it is a waste of time when bead blasting and powder coating is available, but the satisfaction doing it yourself is far higher, and also very addictive!

Good luck, and mail me if you need any pointers not mentioned in the vid, i always reply within a day or so.

Paul

riparato fixed gear

[luvandsound]

i really hope mine turns out like yours! i see that you really paid attention to detail there!

[riparato]

kadeec send us some pics if you have time!! We can feature them on our main site.

[kadeec123]

Ive just painted my bike lotus yellow/fiat black i used car paint it looks good though

[Jiggahata1]

Just got a bike it's super rusty. This will be my first attempt on spray painting the bike and wanted to know if I should use anti rust products before spraying the paint?

[riparato]

shiney96, i'm not sure if you're joking. It's there for a reason, and probably done with a gigantic hammer by thor himself.

[riparato]

Well, spray paint is too broad a term for this video. This footage shows the use of a rattle can, which has a mixing ball which rattles, hence the name rattlecan. Yes, it is spray paint, but a lot of people want to know how to spray from a can as it is more accessible for them. So a specific title helps narrow the search. But you are most definatley right, it is spray paint which comes from the nozzle. Well pointed out.

[madnees4]

rattle cans? spray paint you mean

[riparato]

todagreen, nice one, thanks for the comments. It really means alot to us when people are inspired by what we do, and we wish you all the best when you hit the motobecane with some juicy paint!!

[madnees4]

montana spray paint FTW!

[todagreen]

such a nice paint job! congrats man, it's been a pleasure watching you work...I have a motobecane mirage waiting for paint, this vid has been an inspiration. Takeing your time to paint does pay off!

[riparato]

yeah it does magnum! It certainly pays to spend a little more on a rattle can if your going to go that route. Montana Cans are my favorite at the moment. I've used Halfords, but it just aint the same. No where near as tough. Also, it pays to leave a little bit at the end of the can as the pressure drops, and this leaves spatters on your frame, and that looks cack.

[magnum2417]

that spray can has a nice even spray

[riparato]

tkillersss, you're absolutely right! Make sure you wear all personal protection equipment. GOGGLES and GLOVES when stripping paint. CORRECTLY RATED MASK when spraying. I didnt wear a mask for this particular bike. I was going to talk about what i was doing in the vid, but the extraction was so loud. It is a very efficient booth, and the vapours get sucked away very well. But if you're in a garage, make sure it's well ventilated and PUT ON A MASK FOR YOUR OWN HEALTH! Thanks tkillersss

[tkillersss]

remeber safety first

[riparato]

I made some bungs out of paper towel and masking tape. Jam this into the bottom bracket and headtube. This protects the thread from paint, which can make refitting of the bottom bracket a nightmare. Also, it makes headcup fitting easier. Its surprising how thick 4 coats of primer and 6 coats of colour is!

[riparato]

Ive also removed all other braze ons. I use a grinderette, and cut close but not tight to the frame. Always leave some metal there to file down to the frame. If you try to get flush to your frame with a grinder, and your not steady or practiced, it could be really bad! WEAR EYE PROTECTION TOO. Good luck

[riparato]

Hi KILLERPOLECAT!

There were no bottle cage bosses on this frame. But, the peugeot I am working on had them. Basically, buy a really good file, so its nice and sharp and doesn't skid over your frame. Then file away at the bosses. Make sure you don't hit the frame. When you get close, be very careful. One stroke at a time till you are nice and flush. I filled the holes with JB WELD metal epoxy. Then you can file that down and clean up with emery. I've primed since with great results.

[riparato]

I would say one can is enough, just get it on evenly and let it set fully before a light sand with 800grit emery. You'll need at least two cans of 400ml, but i'd go for three for a bmx. The color is MONTANA CANS BABY BLUE. Aim to get at least two coats per can, with a little left over. DONT USE THE WHOLE CAN. The pressure will drop by the end, and will spatter the paint onto your frame which will look a bit pants. Good luck. Any probs give me a shout mate.

[available2477]

What colour did you use there im after painting my bmx i have 1 tin of white plastikote primer is that enough and i would like that colour you have there what is it and how many cans do i need

Thank's in advance.

[riparato]

WeThePked, two cans of good quality primer (plastikote), and 3 cans of colour coat. You should get 4 coats at least with the primers, and up to six or even eight coats of colour. Make sure you let it cure for a week before you assemble it, because it will be soft withouth question. It will take a while to cure and become hard enough not to chip easily so be patient.

[WeThePked]

How many cans of paint (reg size) will it take to paint a BMX frame and forks? thanks.

[riparato]

after you've prepped and filled the scratch that is!!

[riparato]

aliencannon, establish what the colour of the bike is, then try to either get some paint mixed by a body shop (expensive) for try to find an existing colour already in a spray can. Other options I've heard are people using the small tins of modelling paint, which are enamel. Carefully touch the scratch in with a fine paint brush. To do it properly though, would be to mask the whole bike except for the tube with the offending scratch , and respray that sucker with properly colour matched paint.

[aliencannon]

i have a DB with a huge scratch down the middle and im asking is the a way to repaint it without having to sand it and prime it and then spray it.

[riparato]

If left to cure properly, the paint is very durable. I'm also pretty careful with my bikes, so just being careful how you lean it on things and what you lock it too. I've got one chip in the original riparato bike, from my d-lock, and it chipped the same way as any other paint would. Powder coat is far harder for sure, but i have no worries in using the montana paints with a good primer. If you learn to spray this way, you just touch it back in yourself!!!

[riparato]

Spray as follows: You want to get your hand moving before you get to the bike. Just before you reach the start of a pass, press the cap down to release paint. Keep the smooth motion going right until the end and keep moving the hand, and keep spraying even when you are off of the frame. Take your finger off and you should have a nice even layer. Be methodical. Spraying randomly tends to lead to missed patches and uneven areas or build up in certain areas.

[riparato]

Hi Skaterjam1, must a be the angle, nothing is bent on this frame, its in great shape!!

The finish you get out of the can is totally dependant on your skill when you spray. Anyone can blast a frame with a can, but the finish might not be great. The most inportant things are as follows. Keep the angle of the spray at right angles to the frame. Keep the movement smooth. Watch the distance you are spraying, close works well with montana paints, but others with higher pressures will vary.

[skaterjam1]

nice job, a couple of questions though, firstly is the rear left drop out bent? or just the camera angle? Also does it come out with a nice glossy finish? and reletavly durable? Also how do you raw your frames? i was considering nitromorse someone reccomended it to me.

[riparato]

Not a fan of hamerite personally, but im sure it is fine to use. I just like the colour options for montana, and know it is very durable.

[riparato]

Its all in the preparation. A well prepared frame, with good primer coats, and well built up colour, is very durable over time.

No clear coat on this bike or the Riparato Original and no chips yet! It is a lot tougher than people make out, but all paint will chip if abused, even powder coat.

If you paint a bike, leave it for at least two weeks really before building up and riding. Patience will pay off. The paints i used are suitable for metal, and i rate them very highly. Great colours.

[ruhitchcock]

Does that blue paint which I thought was used for graphics hold up to chipping etc as much as something like Hammerite? Is there a protective clear coat you can use on top? If so which do you advise! Cheers!

[riparato]

You can also visit the website riparatofixedgear for photo updates of all of our project!

[riparato]

Hi, this is Paul from Riparato. I'm lucky enough to have use of a proper spray booth. It draws fresh air through the booth from the ceiling, drawing out the toxic fumes, and then is extracted out through a filter system back into the atmosphere. I'm not wearing a mask in this vid as i was originally going to be talking about the spraying process, but it was too noisy! You should always wear the proper filtered mask with vapor filters. We are doing voiceover on this video with full explaination!

[ARLOXD]

where are you spray painting it? what is that ventilation thiong?

[iAaronEFG]

The ventilation i for he smell from the Spray wont mess with you

[alan5986]

Nice, almost the same colour as mine. I've added this to my playlist as i had quite a few people saying they wanted to see the spraying process which i forgot to include in my vid.