I study under one of Eddie Chong's senior students which in our lineage it goes
Leung Sheung, Kenneth Chung, then Eddie Chong. Our form is totally different but that's because we emphasize alot of Pan Nam and White Eyebrow in our sets.
I also understand why yall only lock elbows in the form and not in application.
There's movements all in the forms that are different from the form and actually applying it. :)
Really good video from K. Chung's lineage. The execution of the player here is of good quality and as far as I know, corresponds to the criteria in that school and as of writing. Purists will always find details or point out "mistakes" (which might be mistakes in their teaching but not in the optic of the school pictured), but this is nonetheless a video of high quality in form AND substance, which is rare enough to be commended...
Locking joints or not, I think the most important thing would be to understand the benefits and weaknesses of what happens in the form.
For instance, it seems to me that going through the full range encourages the fighter to throw a strike with the most force instead of stopping his arm short, but also locking the elbow in a fight gives an opponent a stiff rudder to steer the fighter. Just a thought . . .
I study under one of Sifu Kenneth Chung's senior students, and we have always been told that practicing the form correctly and comfortably in the set will allow you to apply it in action. I don't see how locking the elbows will help though, if you overextend like that in a fight your arm is gone O_O! I was just curious
@amkdeath We extend till locking during the set, but not during sparring. I'm not sure how this squares with what your teacher says, but I think we agree that locking joints in fighting is bad.
@creamyhorror Yes, locking the elbows during forms helps strengthen the joint capsule and connective tissue of the elbow, SNT is attribute training, not fight training. However, a good practice every once in a while is to visualize all the movements in SNT as practical fighting techniques and let them take the shape and energy within that context. Everyone will look different but it is interesting to see how the form can change during this type of training.
@amkdeath actually the emphasis is not really on locking the elbows, but rather full extension of the fist/palm. The idea is to train ourselves to "let the energy go" and not to hold anything back. Naturally in chi sao or sparring you would not leave your arm out like that.
Thank you for sharing this. It is difficult to find videos on the Leung Sheung method under Kenneth Chung. Thanks for such a simple yet professional looking video.
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kendallgr 4 months ago
kenneth i'm really disapointed and i defo think i could have you in a fight. i'll turn you baked beans you unbelieving kuffar twats.
RepubofMancunia 5 months ago
i hate you!
RepubofMancunia 5 months ago
this guy looks weak but he will blow a hole in your chest!!
devilzmantis 7 months ago
Thank you for putting a good Siu Nim Tao video up Wesley
theplunkinator 7 months ago
Can you teach me chi sao
undertaker461 7 months ago
Isn't there supposed to be a Gan Sau part between before the Bong Sau part?
kfliden 7 months ago
Nice video! I'm also in the same linage. my SiGoon is Kenneth Chung.
riceyfool 8 months ago
thank you for sharing this. I learned this form too...
DungHo51 9 months ago
very good siu lim toa =] that´s the way i consider it to be the "right way"
- static stance ( not the floppy WT way)
- very good structure
schulleee 10 months ago
I study under one of Eddie Chong's senior students which in our lineage it goes
Leung Sheung, Kenneth Chung, then Eddie Chong. Our form is totally different but that's because we emphasize alot of Pan Nam and White Eyebrow in our sets.
I also understand why yall only lock elbows in the form and not in application.
There's movements all in the forms that are different from the form and actually applying it. :)
wingchun9539 1 year ago
@wingchun9539 stop making up names.
RepubofMancunia 5 months ago
wow, very similar to the form i practice. my teacher is alson yuen, kenneth chung's student
ForwardIntent 1 year ago
This is good
Musashiblade 1 year ago
Really good video from K. Chung's lineage. The execution of the player here is of good quality and as far as I know, corresponds to the criteria in that school and as of writing. Purists will always find details or point out "mistakes" (which might be mistakes in their teaching but not in the optic of the school pictured), but this is nonetheless a video of high quality in form AND substance, which is rare enough to be commended...
GanimiKava 1 year ago
Locking joints or not, I think the most important thing would be to understand the benefits and weaknesses of what happens in the form.
For instance, it seems to me that going through the full range encourages the fighter to throw a strike with the most force instead of stopping his arm short, but also locking the elbow in a fight gives an opponent a stiff rudder to steer the fighter. Just a thought . . .
Vitki9 1 year ago
I study under one of Sifu Kenneth Chung's senior students, and we have always been told that practicing the form correctly and comfortably in the set will allow you to apply it in action. I don't see how locking the elbows will help though, if you overextend like that in a fight your arm is gone O_O! I was just curious
amkdeath 1 year ago
@amkdeath We extend till locking during the set, but not during sparring. I'm not sure how this squares with what your teacher says, but I think we agree that locking joints in fighting is bad.
creamyhorror 1 year ago
@creamyhorror Yes, locking the elbows during forms helps strengthen the joint capsule and connective tissue of the elbow, SNT is attribute training, not fight training. However, a good practice every once in a while is to visualize all the movements in SNT as practical fighting techniques and let them take the shape and energy within that context. Everyone will look different but it is interesting to see how the form can change during this type of training.
vyvial 4 months ago
@amkdeath actually the emphasis is not really on locking the elbows, but rather full extension of the fist/palm. The idea is to train ourselves to "let the energy go" and not to hold anything back. Naturally in chi sao or sparring you would not leave your arm out like that.
alanngai123 5 months ago 2
Just to clarify, the intent is not to lock joints, but to go through the full range of motion.
peapilot 1 year ago
Thank you for sharing this. It is difficult to find videos on the Leung Sheung method under Kenneth Chung. Thanks for such a simple yet professional looking video.
AdamWilliss 1 year ago
@AdamWilliss Thanks. We thought it'd be good to have a video beginning students could refer to.
Frogular 1 year ago
he's overextending his arms and locking his elbows. Bad habit.
amkdeath 1 year ago
@amkdeath It's the practice in our style to lock joints while doing the set. This may of course be different from other schools.
creamyhorror 1 year ago