Ghost Mall Update

[Puzzoozoo]

The only thing I shop for now is food.

[chuc555]

plenty of parking

[guppyfishdaniel]

what are you doing?

[cshargeit]

funny how james cash penney ( a russian jew) survives all calamity... macy is worst. most people should agree the free market is bullshit. they say.. people stopped buying....until they get a republican capitalist screwer in there, they will make one not want to buy. so at least 2 more years... suckers!!!! 2 more years you slaves.

[PortlandEye503]

Looks like the Mall at Jantzen Beach in Portland, Oregon.

Economy is fucked.

[HollywoodSheen]

what city is this in?

[thenerdsgetchicks]

Is there a Wal-Mart near that? Contact the owner and find out what he is charging for the rent. I have seen this before.

[jvolstad]

He can count. LOL.

[monkeyjoe9]

that would make a nice consentaration camp or gas chamber since army and police officals have been training and practicing in afgahn and iraq to go door to door to take your gun also how to make unessicary check points to search you cant wait till they test ther new training in america

[wiandiii]

there are 2 malls around the city i live, one is ghost mall status, the other is newer and mainly full, however there are less chain stores in it and more local shops, the downtown shopping is worse than the malls, in what used to be a tourist driven area now over half the storefronts are empty, there were alot of local small business going in but they mostly closed up after a couple months. months

[TrueIndie88]

We will enjoy another year. Enjoy all that is.

1 more big crash coming soon, one more super injection of stimulus.

Then, game over.

Road.

[magprob]

Capitalism is not free enterprise. Free enterprise is being crushed to death. Soon, the only ones that will have the right to sell you worthless shit will be the super corporations that are selling you worthless shit today. Anything over $600.00 must be reported now. If not, they crush you. America is being buggered by bastards.

[Maat922]

Damn, I bet that mall would make an excellent FEMA camp!

[bublycat]

Heck, the mall by me has looked like this for years. There are 3 small chain stores left and the rest is either vacant of occupied by local craft dealers. The roof leaks so bad that many stores spaces are unusable now.

[slsmit2]

Thanks Charlie...that was an eye opener for real....this message speaks louder than words...

[electronfun]

It's Dawn of the Dead!

[1776SonofLiberty]

@crabbydogtrix - I know you probably don't want to give too much info out, but can you give us a general type area of the location of the mall? Thanks

[KnowledgeDriven]

@1776SonofLiberty

Capital Hill Mall

1600 11th Avenue

Helena, MT 59601-9733, United States

(406) 442-0183

[lindabebe835]

sad, tougher times coming our way people. prepare, prepare, prepare.

[GoddaM777]

you could probably get away with murder at that mall...or not

[seamstobe]

Wow what general area is this mall in??

[LadySePe]

some malls in our area have stores that have closed;then in one area of town a mall filed bankruptcy a yr ago n they r open but it aint no where near what it was 5 yrs ago...many lookers,no buyers

[concen]

thanks for the update!

love that you followed up

=)

[SteelSkullX]

Malls shutting down across the world is normal. Malls are obsolete. Most people shop online. I buy all my stuff online.

[Karmiangod]

Now, this is in the middle of the Summer when the teenagers are shopping at the mall, hanging out at the movies, and best of all, enjoying a ghost town summer.

[FutureVideos2013]

thats weird, malls by my house we got 3 within 30 miles and there always jam packed 

[frgtmygld]

Downtown Helena and downtown Elkhorn. Good video.

[centervilletn]

no one seems to be shopping for back to school supplies and clothing...same thing going on here too......the ghost town pics were cool...

[homeandstable]

WOW That is incredible! Our mall has closings in it but not that bad. There still are quite a few shoppers. However, I guess not enough due to there are stores that have closed.

[jimbobubbadj]

@homeandstable I wonder how many are just browsing and hanging out vs actually buying!

[1samothrace77]

@jimbobubbadj banks own more residential property than all individuals put together

[hefeltbad]

we have one that just got completly shut down here in charlotte nc and i went in before it was closed..and it was mighty odd

[thaboomer53]

if you think it looks desolate now--give it 6 months

[workwillfreeyou]

Thanks Charlie, This should come to everybody as a big surprise. The federal governments policies ship every possible job out of the nation. And then the unemployed are supposed to flock to these retail stores and buy the Chinese made crap. Consumer Confidence is down? This imploding ghost town reminds me of a industrial plant that I worked at. It started with 10,000 Jobs! Now maybe there's 75. All because of U.S. trade policies.

[tabcan]

How sad. At one point a woman laughs and you can hear the echo. No shoppers on a Saturday? I'm not sure if that's a good thing or a bad thing. I'm guessing we all have enough junk in our lives already. Maybe it's time we give the credit cards a well deserved break.

[cabaretbalkan]

dude , that mall must have been in BFE. Helena Montana Population in July 2008: 29,351 per citydata WTF. Been in the mall this weekend (Strongsville Ohio), it was packed , could not find parking spot for car , needed shuttle bus to get me there:)) ,no empty stores neither .

[BTW31594]

lol everyone has ghost towns....

[Airave]

I can dig it, owning a Photo & Design

studio in a German village,

We's going down. :( Not just me,

not just you, he or she,

we's going down.

Peace & Love to All!

[meikagirl]

Time for the demolition ball.

[Talexa66]

Ouch

[1samothrace77]

could you be more detalied about the number of malls and stores in your town. it would us more context.

[MayanResearcher]

A real eye opener was when I took a 2 hour train ride.....all the industrial ie: lumber,steel,chemical businesses that sit along side railroad tracks are so long empty,r.e. signs gone, now just grafitti,and evidence of small campfires inside them.You only see this area from a train....ghost town,indeed!

[88arau]

What city do you live in?

[DonteIsDaMan]

Damn. the malls used to packed on saturdays.

[Travinyle1]

I gotta say in Greenville SC only certain places are like this. Downtown is packed just dont think people are hurting here.

[plasticglassonion222]

this is very sad indeed...

[mja2035]

Nice on the ground reporting Charlie !

[ED209ISBACK]

In new york and new jersey, you'd never know there was an ongoing economic problem in this nation. The malls are still packed and expanding.

[1samothrace77]

@ED209ISBACK wall street and other unrepresentative industries are still located in new york

[MrArizonaGuy]

About 25% of the businesses in Prescott Valley AZ are now closed and vacant , For Rent , Lease , Sale signs everywhere

In addition to the redflex speed and red light camers , There is now govt spy cameras mounted atop all of the light poles at most of the intersections pointing in all 4 directions , Angled to read license plate numbers

[1samothrace77]

@MrArizonaGuy could you upload a vidoe of the malls and business

[MrArizonaGuy]

@1samothrace77 - I do not own a video camera .

[BMWg84]

JC Penny will go bankrupt.

[CTOL1]

Food stores are the last bastion of retail sales in all but the most upscale neighborhoods.

Went to the hardware store, locally owned "Ace" Hardware, looking to get a tail lamp, they were behind the checkout counter in a drawer, not your typical carded pack on a hook. I got two, "Made in China" for the Ford...

[Microage97]

Where were the ghost houses from. Those were so cool!

[ducklamb1]

back to school sales r supposed to set records this year.ha!maybe wall mart sales.nobody i know can afford back to school anything.even the one person in my 6 sibling family thats still working( at 3/4 less than he used to make.)im the only one in the family without a college degree,at least i get side work.

[DrGreenBud]

its the same here in scotland

[odddreams]

I don't want to down play the seriousness of the current recession. The economy is the worst I have ever seen and I am 58 years old. However, in the last decade (or two) they simply built too many malls and mini-malls. Even when the economy picks up many of these malls will be vacant.

[june201955]

This has been happening everywhere Charlie. The only plus side to this is that it may encourage some local Mom & Pop's to open. Personally, I could give a rat's pattootie about corporate owned stores surviving, All they sell is China made crap anyway. it's the "U.S.A." Mom & Pop stores that need to thrive.

[killswitch489]

thats sad to see man theres a mall about 45 mintues away from me and the same thing is happening to it jcpennys, sam goodies etc etc all dissapearing its quickly becoming the normal trend love your videos though keep up the great work :)

[mookixox]

Look at all that recovery literally bursting at the seams...5+

[zgreg427]

dude its montana.....come to the east coast, malls are packed...

[netwerkthis]

I feel we are looking at the furture of mass housing for gulf transplants.

[NewAmericaNow]

Didn't you hear things are improving? LOL! Our mall has about 6 empty stores but you see more employees than customers per store and the food court is open but empty. I don't know how much longer this can last? Mrs.NAN

[homertalk]

These will be great future gang hold-outs.

[tenagliac]

I saw one like that in Denver. We had a couple here in Milwaukee. 2 became Walmarts. One stands empty and deserted for nearly 10 years. A gorgeous 2 level with 100 store potential. It last sold for $100 and there it sits.

[michael174]

damn, reminds me of a recent zomie movie... walking around that mall.... Very sad tho

[Boomer1949]

This Mall may have been a bad investment. Over building didn't just happen in California, it happened all over the place.

[lizadfuel]

Is this the only mall in your town?

[Repomex01]

it will close soon

[Boomer1949]

I don't remember what state your in. Is this in California?

[TracyM1974]

@Boomer1949 It's Montana

[1776Reborn]

Ghost malls are perfect to play paintball on go-karts.

[btigtime2]

I have walked our mall in Baton Rouge, There are lots of stores lots of people, just nothing I'd want to buy

[praeeo]

The Riverside mall (Galleria at Tyler) is still pretty packed with shoppers... I guess they aren't aware of what's coming their way (I had to take my daughter there before graduation and I was amazed watching the people - they're so clueless). We did learn that our water here in Riverside is one of the worst in the country (nice), maybe the chems are working like clock work.

Thanks Charlie! The ghost town looks cool in a haunting way, yet, gives us a little something to think about!

[JP5466]

A few months ago I tried to make a video inside the nearest mall in my neighborhood. Security stopped me and said no videos were allowed because I could be a terrorist... nice huh?

[Modacolorist]

That looks like something out of a horror movie... All of the people are gone :-O

[Shameonfed]

We have one of those "malls" in my town in upstate New York too. Doctor's offices have opened in their place. The local community college has taken over some floor space too to offer classes there for people with transportation problems. Even a US Congressmen, Paulie Tonko and a State Rep have opened offices there, but gone are the stores.

[hombre38]

Over here in the uk i was in the local shopping center yesterday and it was heaving with people, it has about 100 shops approx, i think america has to many malls and so the downturn is more noticable there

@GUILDF40, Enjoy watchin your vids bro keep them up.

[charlesfuchs]

Thats a good thing because people need to stop buying crap they dont need.

[GuildF40]

Could have had a buddy in the spooky house at the end yellin BOOOOOOOO !

[0PsycoDad0]

The one thing that realy pisses me off about this ghost story is that americans don´t seem to clean up when they leave. I mean these shacks from the last century might be an attraction but the malls ´ll need centuries to wither away but my guess is simply shut up and leave.

True prices´d reflect this deconstruction too, but we´re evil socialist dictators over here.....

[AlusaBird2]

Merced CA was supposed to be one of the second worse city in the nation for jobs in spring of last year, I went to the mall less than a month ago and only saw like 2 empty stores, before it was like 40% empty- it has gotten a lot better. I wonder where your at.

[mrmike803]

i allways love your vid thnx

[kmuthart]

you must live in the middle of nowhere.

It's busy as hell here in Daytona.

[PRprince305]

high taxes = middle class unemployed

[portantwas]

There's a customer threshold that once you fall beneath it then other customers start to avoid the shop because they think there is something wrong (bad product or too expensive). Shoppers are attracted to busy places - it's a catch-22.

[drutter]

Eerie, bigtime.

[thor9754]

where exactly is this?

like what state are you in?

cus i'm in New Jersey, and none of our malls are like this at all...

[huntingun1]

Alot more are coming. We ain't seen nothin' yet.

[stellaconcepts]

scary stuff

[smasila]

holy smokes!

[niffer58]

WOW!!

[BentBuddha]

Our malls in Australia are booming. Full occupancy and large crouds. I'm curious as to why it's happening there and not here?

[canarsiemarsie]

Where is this?????? I am in Glendale CA. The Glendale galleria is frantically busy. Very difficult to get a parking space. A few years ago they expanded . Looks like Disneyland. Bought a book at Barnes & Noble, had to fight the crowds... Target Stores also very busy.. Last year I was in PA. went to a ghost Mall. Very creepy , SO empty. my footsteps echoed. One anchor store and that was it. Rumor has it, they are going to turn these Malls into surgery centers...

[yonny1954]

@canarsiemarsie Surgery center? Health care is taking an absolute beating. Thousands of new nursing grads no jobs. Cut backs everywhere. Not a chance.

[canarsiemarsie]

@yonny1954 .... Are you certain? From what I hear there is a shortage. The Nurse's I know have 2 jobs. Full time at one hospital.  Part-time at another. They make good money. I worked at a hospital made many friends.

[ColdRainyNights]

@canarsiemarsie

I think some places are different than others.

youtube com/watch?v=ealPpxAV9zA

The girl in that video is a nurse.

[canarsiemarsie]

@ColdRainyNights ....watched the video. very surprised. 

[yonny1954]

@canarsiemarsie I have been in NSG. FOR 35 YEARS NEVER SEEN IT 1/2 THIS BAD. Boston colleges graduate thousands of BSN's no jobs, same in Maine nobody is hiring except in rare instances must have experience. Friends in Fla. 20% layoffs at several hosp., a Tampa hosp fired its lab. staff and rehired them at 50% pay cut right to work state), in our O.R. HERE HOURS CUT 20-30% and some layoffs, Ya I am sure, maybe it is a local thing for you cuz I know people all over the country saying the same

[YourBrainOnReligion]

Damn, I should send you some footage of my town. Might be even be an idea for a movie... a compilation of different areas of America..

[crabbydogtrix]

@YourBrainOnReligion- please do

[KASPLARFO]

@YourBrainOnReligion Yeah, a Zombie Movie!

[ruleof3]

I guess parking is not an issue

[Lekozza]

That looks depressing.

What kinds of business do you see closing and which ones are surviving?

[RCHARDLUU]

@Lekozza Most likely those really annoying fashion stores that are tiny. Those kind of stores that only have one size and one size only.

[hilololomoa]

Bush has piled up more debt than all the other presidents combined. His tax cuts have fattened the bankrolls of his constituents but they’ve put the dollar on a downward slide. Since he took office the once-mighty greenback has plummeted a whopping 35%.

[yonny1954]

@hilololomoa Bush tax cuts expire soon, already the"rich" have begun to curtail spending secondary to the economy, do u think raising taxes on them or anyone else helps. PS the dollar has been on a downward slide since the creation of the Fed. Reserve. Try a longer view, and if u thing Obama is somehow responsible for the rise in the dollar think again, it is simply Europe is in worse shape. Chinese are dumping US bonds and buying gold and the dollar been lower under Obama than Bush, wake up!

[lindabebe835]

@yonny1954 You are so right.

[MayonR]

@hilololomoa Obama has done nothing to curtail this also. He has terrible advisers and talk is already in the works for a new stimulus which will further dilute our value. He has cut unemployment extensions yet he has enough for the endless wars. His approval ratings have dropped even below Sarah Palin and Mitt Romney. Now if that isn't scary I don't know what is. this has been a group effort and the last 3 Presidents seemed to have worked together in this since Clinton removed Glas Stgl.

[JP5466]

@hilololomoa Is that a typo? Obama's spending makes Bush look like a piker. Makes me laugh how many ignorant Dems are still blaming Bush for everything. Yes, Bush was an awful president, but Hopey is 100x worse. They're really all puppets anyway. The central bankers pull all the strings. The last real president was probably JFK... and look what happened to him.

[vention4wh]

@JP5466

Good, the more people who realize that the whole democrat/republican thing is just another way for the elite to divide and conquer the population, the better. JP5466, you've just graduated. Class dismissed.

[jmjfanss]

@vention4wh

Got that right/

[SteelSkullX]

@JP5466

Enlightning comment.

[vangalex]

its busier at Walden Galleria in Buffalo ny, residual traffic comes from Ontario

[rentonsentinel]

I always thought the premise of building a multi-million dollar commercial property based on a demographic that derives its income from begging its parents was a faulty one. Guess the mall rats of America really aren't calling the shots in this economy. Maybe someone will start a business that caters to middle age engineers or something.

[hilololomoa]

I see dead people.

[dgmoocher]

Must be spotty. In Sac many brand new stucco strip malls sit empty with "live" Starbucks on the corner. Across town mega malls are overflowing with permanent Christmas shoppers. The older malls here are getting deserted like yours.

[YourBrainOnReligion]

@dgmoocher Yeah I'm up the hill from you and it's gross here too.

[mohammedabshaun]

This is not a bad thing guys to see mall stores close. Things change black and white television upgraded to color, so the same thing will happen with the mall. We are living in a technical world shopping will be done with major chains going to the solo store model or it will move to online all together. Things don't stay the same that's life.

[dancingforrain2012]

@mohammedabshaun the cycle is a bit more vicious than that.....

[mohammedabshaun]

@dancingforrain2012 My friend I have worked in the mall business for 7 years. The only time any store makes money is on Black Friday, this is when major store start showing property. The only time malls make money is Christmas. Throughout the year you are just sucking your thumb. It doesn't make since to be in the mall anytime other than Christmas. So the world is not ending, It justs mean entrepreneurs have to do something with less overhead.

[jhardknox]

Very interesting. Makes me wonder if there is another shopping meca near by...?

[dshedder1]

@jhardknox my thoughts exactly. it's easy to paint a mall a ghost mall wen you have a brand spanking new mall across town thats booming with activity. the small city i live in has a major mall and six or seven strip mall and they are busy. i'll paint this as fearmongering.

[LivingHistorySchool]

At our mall they put up the fasad or false store front to give the illusion that there are still plenty of stores, kind of like the stimulus gives the fasad that we are in recovery

[jimbobubbadj]

@LivingHistorySchool Good point Scott, that sums it all up a facade, a Potemkin Village.

[newkie2008]

Things are changing fast man, be prepared july 23 might be important people!

[WildBillVT74]

@newkie2008 why July 23?

[newkie2008]

@WildBillVT74 I found an article about a tsunami alert for that date, in google put july 23 2010 tsunami alert

[lindabebe835]

@WildBillVT74 yeah, what is up with july 23??

[WildBillVT74]

@newkie2008 Hey thanks for the info dude, I'll check it out.

[GlockAnimal]

Wow thats nuts !

[eliden]

u can take the people away from dallas please! i couldn't even watch a movie because the line was so long!

[jimbobubbadj]

@eliden There are still pocket of activity. In my area the Mall is busy yet I personally know people that are struggling in my area. I manage rental properties. I plan on doing a video in a few months in the mall near me. I don't see how these pockets can continue to flourish for much longer. For my sake, I am glad, but it still perplexes me as to the how and why.

[SteelSkullX]

@jimbobubbadj

Pockets will become the norm. That's how it is in third world countries and yes, Americans will tolerate like everything else.

Land of the brave??

LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jimbobubbadj]

@SteelSkullX I wish that I could disagree with ya.

[deke76]

That mall looks completely untouched since the 70's.

[MamaOkie]

In OKC we have brand new strip malls that the enire property has sat empty for going over a year. Prime real estate. Store owners of other malls are not renewing thier leases.

[FrenchConcrete]

In my town when a mall store front is vacant they put up an elaborate wall that completely hides the emptiness. It almost seems like a wall with no store space behind it.

[nikto2000]

Its a vicious cycle. As good paying jobs are outsourced, the workers have to take lower paying jobs. As a result they have less money to spend or pay taxes with. So, the businesses that still survive have to cut jobs...lather, rinse repeat. The whores in congress, took money from lobbyists, to pass the legislation to facilitate outsourcing. In their short sightedness, they failed to see that this would cause tax revenues to fall. So next...massive tax increases on the average American.

[aceyorba]

ouch

[ChadLand011]

they still got tunes playin, why ?

[fortherichbytherich]

the party is just getting started everyone is invited

[TubeAwarder]

Just sent your video to Drudge.

[delicflower]

>.< As hard as that is to see, I am glad you posted it. Not only were the stores closed but there were no people. It is spooky

[mrbunnylamakins]

Our Ghost mall turned into Walmart and Menards < Home Repair Store

[codose]

eerie...i should go do this for my towwn, our 1 mall is near gone

[zenmeister451]

The same thing is happening here in Burlingame, CA. The biggest cause is greed! The greed of landlords who simply continue raising store-front rents regardless of the flagging economy. Businesses can't afford to stay open. Once busy streets are now essentially dead by comparison. The rich landlords don't care. They can just write their 'losses' off on their taxes. There's something very seriously wrong with the world these days. Greed and corruption have become the norms of the day.

[Dajuhan2u]

@zenmeister451 yes and how long can they continue this?

[zenmeister451]

@Dajuhan2u

I'm convinced that greed is a sickness and that corruption is the raison'd'etre of criminals. Consequently, they'll keep it up until the last breaths they take.

For the greedy, their coffers can never be filled enough. For the corrupt, they know nothing else. And in the end, they're both one in the same. There are some very sad times ahead.

[SteelSkullX]

@zenmeister451

This crap have been goin on for thousands of years. These greedy motherfuckers didn't just come out of the woodwork. There will always be greedy people in the population. That is not a problem. The problem starts when righteous men become cowardly.

[mutexnet]

As you know, when the retail malls start filing for bankruptcy it will make the residential bankruptcy we are experiencing now look quaint.

[bloggysmurf]

what city is that

[DEMCAD]

Last person out turn off the light!

[lindabebe835]

@DEMCAD lol

[sawacheroke]

i venture to say you havent seen anything yet