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  • It is weird why do people focus on the dying words. At that time the person is disoriented they are DYING I would think what they said while they were alive was more significant. It is just a Christian's wet dream oh in his dying breath he converted. What a bunch of disgusting vultures.

  • Atheists support the Illuminati because they hate America.

  • Did you watch the video? Most of them were not really repenting and asking for forgiveness. Actually I didnt really see one that did ask for forgiveness. I think the purpose of the video was more of a comparison: Thomas Hobbes (Atheist) "I am about to take a very fearful leap into the dark" VS. King David (Christian) "Though I walk through the valley of the shadow of death thou art with me."

  • There is a huge discussion in here regarding evolution. Gotta question for all of you. Can't evolution and creation go hand in hand? Why is there such a dividing line when it comes to this subject? I am a Chrisitan and I really don't know much about the subject I admit that. I just would like the opinon on both sides. My belief and this is just my opinon but if there was a creation such as a tree then there was a creator. Intelligent responses only. Hateful ones will be deleted and ignored.

  • blarney and bullshit all rolled into one...atheists never make any sense

  • @mswinditup that's quite a relization. i think the same about creationists.

  • metal gouged lips look absolutely ridiculously painfully ugly....

    desecration of the human body...another of satan's deceptive moves

  • There was a monster under the bed and it was a Reptilian that you summoned by reading and learning from Atheists that side with demon reptilian half breeds.

  • @SuperBenjamin900 Our pleidian half breeds that want nothing more then see you stupid and spreading lies so you can eventually suffer and die from your atheist nonsense.

  • WHY HAVE THE TURTLES STOPPED EVOLVING 150 MILLION YEARS AGO!?!?

  • according to dawkins, SHARKS SHOULD'VE EVOLVED INTO HUMANS BY NOW!!!!!!

  • wango tootie frutiee ckicken bootie. i bet this guy LOOOOOOOVVVVVEEEESSSS god. i know i do.

  • @theelderscrollsfreak possibly the most cogent response from a theist I've had. Thanks dude.

  • @talkymeat uhhh dude srry but i am a christian, wasnt being sarcastic in that way. dont worry though im not the kind that shuvs cross up ur butt and tells you to go to hell.

  • poop head man

  • chicken sausage!!!!

  • how does evolution end? the last 1000 years nothing has changed or evolved.

    who can say that evolution is true when there is no evidence of it today.

  • @chadwick1037 Evolution doesn't end, it's still going on, and there is a ton of evidence for it. Consider HIV, which, by its high mutation rate, has frustrated vaccine development, or the evolution of antibiotic-resistant bacteria, like MRSA. Under poaching pressure, the african elephant has, in the last century, evolved to have shorter tusks, & speciation has been observed in the wild in the Apple Maggot Fly (R. pomonella). Google "Belyaev's foxes". & that's just what I could fit in 500 chars.

  • @talkymeat evolution has a lot of definitions. your logic and reason(left brain) has to understand where my abstract(right brain) is coming from. My point is this, adaptation of bacteria is is a very different definition of evolution. The "theory" of evolution, an educated person could come to the conclusion, is unprovable and is still pending its approvable.

    The "theory" of evolution is a fairy tale with imaginary animals transforming from species to species.

  • @chadwick1037 No. The definition as understood by most biologists is that evolution is the change over time of gene-frequencies, as modulated by differential rates of replication. It is the same process in bacteria as in plants and animals. I'd cite some notable evolutionary transitions that have appeared in the fossil record; Homo habilis, tiktaalik or archaeopteryx, but really, if we didn't have a single fossil, the theory would be proven a thousand times over by the genomic evidence.

  • @chadwick1037 Sorry to interrupt but I find that I agree with you and would like to offer a stark example to the feebleness of the evolutionary concept. I do this not to tear down the ego's associated with this theory but merely to poke holes. It has always astounded me that this theory disproves itself with the gaping yawn of the missing link. Evolution states we have come from apes but fails to illustrate this conclusion. Funny, how so many could be so influenced, considering this omission.

  • @talkymeat "Evolution doesn't end, it's still going on". The thing that makes that statement is untrue is simple.. SHARKS.. Sharks pre date dinosaurs. If evolution was constantly in progress, why have the sharks stopped evolving since pre historic times??

    Evolution is False. When one theory of evolution is debunked, another theory shorty follows afterwards to make up for the debunked theory.

  • evolution? ph, Darwin was a high degree free mason, google iluminati

  • @THEMSASBOYZ I couldn't possibly care less.

  • @talkymeat so why on earth did you possibly watch this? lol

  • I swear to God all atheists have gay double lip piercings. Ha....HAHAHA...HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH­AHAHAH...get it I swore to God.

  • What? get to the point Beuller Beuller Beuller. Okay enough being mean. I just can't sit through this it is terribly boring.

  • I like your response, :)

  • Are you reading this speech from off your computer? People are being bored to death! As smart as you are...why would you poke holes in your face? You are very handsome but how do you kiss? Just saying...

  • Hard to take you seriously because it's so fucking obvious you were more interested in looking at yourself on the computer.

    I could only take ten seconds of this crap.

  • @AstrumSol Shame. You missed the dance routine and the cameo by Zooey Deschanel.

  • Almost every single one of the quotes is wrong, some of the people don't seem to exist.

  • Something tells me that this atheist will be begging God for mercy on his deathbed...lol they all do. If you can't follow atheism to the grave then give us creationists a break and shut up.

  • @ready2escape You want an unbeliever who took it cheerfully to the grave? Fine. Read a load of Hume. His prose is better than mine, too.

  • I don't let it bother me when someone says "I don't believe that" because I know it doesn't matter how many testimonials are given from those who died and returned with knowledge of what went on in the other room, It does not matter how many times an intelligent conversation is recorded on tape with those departed, if some one does not want to believe, they will not until that person experiences it first hand. And maybe not even then.

    But what does bug me?

    People who have not watched Star Wars.

  • @awesomelittlebox i'm a trekkie, but i know what you mean.

  • I come to this video to leave a star wars joke, and get responses like "If you rely on feelings alone, you know nothing" Could you please stop filling my inbox with crap like this? It's depressing.

  • @awesomelittlebox Yeah, I know what you mean. For the first, i dunno, year or so, I replied to all the comments posted to this video, but in the end I got so bored, I just couldn't be bothered. Even the little voice that said "I can't sleep someone is *wrong* on the internet" gave up. But still, two or three times a week I get stuff in my inbox calling me an idiot, telling me to open my heart to God and BLAH BLAH FUCKING BLAH BORING. Maybe you could set up a mail filter...

  • @talkymeat INFORMATION is the problem for atheists! Hydrolysis and homochirality would prevent life from ever starting! and the INFORMATION for a single protein to form by undirected natural processes is chemically and mathematically impossible!!

  • @5tonyvvvv

    Virtual particles and even the quantum level would seem impossible for the majority of the world to wrap their heads around, but it exists.

    Take another look, it isn't as impossible as it would seem.

    Or if you like, give me your degrees in mathematics or the websites to confirm your claim or I will write you of as lacking in anything that would seem even remotely as a thought function.

  • @ryoh01 Intelligence is needed to create software code or assemble a computer! FAR MORE intelligence is needed for the assemblance of the first Cell and thereby DNA. A DNA code is far more complex in design than All the Worlds Softwares COMBINED!! Therefore we can deduce Intelligent DESIGN! Homochirality and hydrolysis would prevent life from ever starting! It is chemically and mathematically impossible for a single protein to form!!

  • @5tonyvvvv Not really. Szostak JW, Bartel DP, Luisi PL, Synthesizing Life, Nature 409:387-390 (2001)

  • @5tonyvvvv

    Really now?

    I don't want to take credit for gaoasiadragon, but if you haven't already, give the information in his response a look.

    I'm curious, so I have a question:

    Do you think there is a such thing as "normal" in our universe?

    Or is the term "normal" just a concept we use to describe things that occur regularly in our daily lives, or things we view as commonplace?

  • Wow. You have a rude awakening coming. I pray it's not too late for you but it will be. Darwinism has been run through with the sword of truth but schools still teach it as fact when it's not. Jesus said seek me and you shall find. I dare you to try and disprove he is who he says he is. Many atheists have converted while attempting to prove he doesn't exist. Open your heart and search. Or are you scared you may just have to answer for your deeds when this life is over?

  • @chadstonestar - as david attenbogough puts it - 'Are you telling me that the God you believe in, who you also say is an all-merciful God, who cares for each one of us individually, are you saying that God created this worm that can live in no other way than in an innocent child's eyeball? Because that doesn't seem to me to coincide with a God who's full of mercy.'

  • Do you have purple eyes??? fuck either way beautiful eyes. Great video.

  • This guy is very smart!.............not

  • Wow, this is a real bunch of meandering gibberish!

    1:32 -- And what about Christians who are constantly browbeaten by today's surrounding culture of greed, corruption, violence, perversion, unbelief, etc., etc., etc.?

  • @JohnnyS001 Surely that would be the culture of Catholics. Look at the pope, greed - How much gold? Corruption - How much Power? Violoence - How many wars in the name of religion? Perversion - priests...need i say more? Uneblief - in scientific theories, yes they are theories, but at least, when a fault is pointed out, the theory is changed. Oh and can i ask...How old is the earth?

  • I hope they tape your deathbed conversion, God will then be using your eternity in hell 2 save others. Yes the brain IS good at fooling itself. As this vid is a perfect example of. I want to hear from the moral atheist. No such thing. Know y? cuz atheisim is all about an excuse to steal, cheat, lie, put money b4 people, dispose of ur mate when u grow bored w them. PS God created the world via evolution.

  • Actually what I have to say in response to that is about arguments from authority. Okay, those people before they die raised questions whether they would burn in hell. So what? Their renown intellect does not guarantee 100% accountability.

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  • The things of God are spiritually discerned. If you dont have the Spirit of God, then the things of God are nonsense. Ask God to reveal Himself to you and He will. Guaranteed.

  • @CWCliborne1 when your bible says, those who see the face of god will be killed becauce no man will see his face. you no why, becauce hes an alien from another world, how would you feel if you found out your god is a little green alien who decieves mankind to blind them from the truth, and make himself look divine and wonderful. what if your god is a very nice ET maybe an andromedan or plaetian, who are human with different features like blue skin, taller or something but your god is an ET

  • @CWCliborne1 I have lived to that and nothing happened he is a fraud!

  • @CWCliborne1 amen!

  • @CWCliborne1 The things of science are physically, chemically and bilologically discerned. If you do not have the knowledge of science, then the things of science are nonsense. Read scientific articles to reveal science to you and it will.

    Guaranteed.

  • Charles darwin himself denounced evolution on his deathbed and said creation is the truth. Research it. Jesus loves you, you are deceived. God Bless you.

  • @smilez42087 actually no, exact opposite. He renounced Christianity. Please research before you type.

  • @technoangina "Jesus said to him,"I am the way, the truuth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through Me." John 14: 6 no one can get to heaven without the blood Jesus shed on the cross for our wicked nature. He loved us enough that He died so that we wouldn't Have to. He has given us a free gift of eternal life. Without it, we all would be eternally seperated from Gods love in hell. Satans biggest disception is making people believe he doesn't even exist. Jesus loves YOU.EVERY1!

  • @technoangina

    "And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world" john 12:47. Jesus loves you and wants to save you. Its your coice to accept His free gift or reject it. God bless you and ur day today. Love and blessings to you.

  • @smilez42087 Thank you for your concern. Were this in fact true, I would have no qualms with changing my position, unfortunately the empirical evidence does not support the existence of any deity. I wish you well in life's journey. Also upon reviewing my comment, it may have appeared to be written with more vitriol than I intended to convey, please accept my apology in that my communication should have been clearer and any intended offense was accidental.

  • @technoangina The only reason I would even bother telling you these things in confidence is that I have experienced God in supernatural ways and have seen Jesus and angels and demons. I have been shown heaven and hell in dreams. I can tell you with 100% certainty that The Bible is truth and is the word of God. I know for a fact that Jesus loves YOU and if you seek Him and ask if He's there with a sincere heart He WILL reveal Himself to you. You just have to sincerely cry out and ask.

  • @technoangina we each have our own journey and choice in life. I am just here to share the love Christ has for me and has put in my heart for others. Its not a religion I have a relationship with a REAL and true loving God. I pray you will seek Him. Today :) He is waiting with open arms. Matthew 7:7 "Ask, and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and it will be opened to you. For everone who asks receives, and he who seeks finds, and to him who knocks, it will be open"Godblessu

  • your pierces are evolution ? right ?

  • Pull those rings out of your lips.

  • i guess when you die you will think athiest or and excuse for not believing,,,you can chat it over in the lake of fire ,,,hope you change your mind,,,man you went from athiest to bed monster,s  and animal,s have you listen to this after you posted it,,,just saying

  • i guess when you die you will think athiest or and excuse for not believing,,,you can chat it over in the lake of fire ,,,hope you change your mind,,,

  • It doesn't matter what they said before they died. What they believed in matters and they are dealing with the consequences right now.

  • If god, being god, were to choose to forsake all mankind for he is god and no justification nor reasoning were to be needed for he is god. What would you devotes do? commit atrocities due knowledge that nothing binds you no more?

    I know at least atheists wouldn't change. They lived their lives on the basis that god never existed.

  • @meincarrot Honestly? I had a looming deadline and needed a half-hour's displacement activity.

  • classic but bad logic from atheist..our "fiear" or prey's defense mechanism evolved into "fear of hell"or the devil being adversary and our natural defense is to have God to protect us..bad logic..we had gained superiority over the animals a very long time ago,and therefore have the LEAST of the defences,since humans ARE THE WORLDS PREDATORS..by that logic,religion would have never developed or died out a long time ago

  • @cykoaudio777 humans have barely been surviving until the last 100 years, when science came to the forefront. Humans are not the world's best predators, we are the worlds best farmers. Also active religion has declined as science education has improved.

  • If there isn't intelligence behind the creation of the universe, how do we humans have intelligence? DNA? It's in a constant flux in ALL beings. Is DNA able to think on it's own? How is there no intelligence behind this very simple, yet infinitely complex phenomena? 4 kinds of DNA molecules account for seemingly infinite combinations that are constantly changing with each RNA copy. This intelligence is WAY beyond our comprehension. WE try to understand the universe by ultimately destroyin

  • @Kostly Humans as we know them have barely been around for a scratch on the timeline of Earth. We've accidentally created vulcanization, microwave ovens, potato chips, beer, fire. The planets magnetic fields create music we can hear, does that prove that they are musicians. Your explanation actually proves how evolution works. Also the computer you're using right now only has 2 positions, yet there are many different uses for computers and even different operating systems!

  • You know, I understnd where you're coming from. It makes sense that our emotions can override our common sense in times of great stress and fear. However, one does not believe in God for the sole purpose of avoiding death. I cannot help feeling that those people who are so quick to deny a higher power have nevr actually given that higher power a fair chance. My belief in Jesus comes not from what I am told, but from what I have experienced.

  • Darwin wasnt even an atheist. He grew up Christian, but became an agnostic. Am I wrong?

  • @aninjru- Darwin, I think was an atheist, he rejected and hated religion. But you would have to do research some of his personal journal on line I think to really know for sure. He was an agnostic when he left the christain faith then maybe became an atheist.

  • @honeyblossom17 He was a believer but his faith died as he developed his scientific theories. He never officially said he was an atheist, but he was by no means a Christian.

  • @mckaysam1 Quran:

    {Surah-109- the unbelievers (kafirun) -vs-1}

    Say: o unbelievers!

    2-i do not serve that which you serve,

    3-nor do you serve him whom I serve:

    4-nor am I going to serve that which you serve,

    5-nor are you going to serve him whom I serve:

    6-you shall have your religion and I shall have my religion.

  • @quranresponse "It does not do to dwell on dreams and forget to live, remember that." - Harry Potter and the Philosophers stone; about as God inspired as the Quran, but so much more wonderfully apt.

  • 1400 years ago

    Quran:

    {Surah-25-the criterion (furqan)-vs-1}

    Blessed is he who sent down the furqan upon his servant that he may be a Warner to the nations;

  • 2-he, whose is the kingdom of the heavens and the earth, and who did not take to himself a son, and who has no associate in the kingdom, and who created everything, then ordained for it a measure.

    3-and they taken besides him gods, who do not create anything while they are themselves created, and they control not for themselves any harm or profit, and they control not death, nor life, nor raising (the dead) to life.

  • 4-and those who disbelieve say: this is nothing but a lie which he has forged, and other people have helped him at it; so indeed they have done injustice and (uttered) a falsehood.

    5-and they say: the stories of the ancients-he has got them written-so these are read out to him morning and evening. 6-say: he has revealed it who knows the secret in the heavens and the earth; surely he is ever forgiving, merciful.

  • I told you I was ill.

  • bla bla bla bla bla bla bla  bal

  • @KoRnmunk00 ......

  • THERE IS NO GOD. Do you agree or not? Why?

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  • what a nonsensicle video

  • what a waste of 5 mins.

    My man, you need to find God :)

  • @gamer2be08 you need to stop lying to yourself.

    there is no god

  • @gamer2be08 You need to read a biology book, educate yourself a bit :)

  • Their is an ultimate "Force" in the Universe.

    Search your feelings, you know it to be true.

  • @awesomelittlebox Your sad devotion to that ancient religion has not helped you conjure up the stolen data tapes or given you clairvoyance enough to find the Rebels' hidden fort...

  • @talkymeat I find your lack of faith ... disturbing ...

  • @talkymeat I find your lack of faith disturbing. lol not really

  • @awesomelittlebox Nope, my feelings don't agree with that neither do the reasoning, so it's 2 to 1

  • @2CSST2 You are part of the rebel alliance and a traitor! Take him away! (In case the Star Wars joke wasn't obvious enough the first time.)

  • @awesomelittlebox yes, Obi-wan never told you what happened to your father

  • @awesomelittlebox feel the force luke! and blow up the deathstar!

  • @awesomelittlebox Gravity?

  • @lyon1535 ...is workin' against me.

  • @awesomelittlebox And that force is thy own mindset, nothing to do with a deity.

  • @awesomelittlebox If you rely on feelings alone, then you know nothing.

  • @awesomelittlebox - yes if you mean gravity

  • The only credibility you could have on the video you just made is to become a very famous skeptic like all the people quoted, then be on your death bed and then say the exact same thing. Of course you will never be famous and your not on your deathbed (yet) so therefore you hold no credibility with this message.

  • i just can not take seriously a man with metal protruding from his lip...

  • It is interesting how atheist is believe in proof.and yet they can provide no strong proof that God does not exist.There foundation is solely based on ignorants and not evidence or lack or evidence,cuz athism is everything religion is without the God in it.

  • @Kingpee03 So, when you watch "Plan 9 From Outer Space" and Criswell says "Can you prove it didn't happen?" at the end, and everyone in the theater laughs, do you ask "What's so funny?"

    Look up the concept of the burden of proof, please. Oh, and learn how to spell while you're at it.

  • What does this video have to do with people, all seeing the same thing, hell before they die! God is real. If you don't believe me ask Him. If you don't want to know Him you won't. If you seek Him He will reveal himself to you. Seek Him before it's to late!

  • You see how good God is, He has drawn alot of atheists to your page so that  everyone who has watched this will be a witness onto those who did not believe for the great and terrible day of JUDGEMENT

  • @89maggies - Here's a quote for you:

    "We must question the story logic of having an all-knowing and all-powerful God who creates faulty humans, and then blames them for his own mistakes." - Gene Roddenberry.

    You religious people claim that God exists, yet you still lack evidence to support your claim, thus there's absolutely no reason to believe in God. You all just use "faith" to bypass having to present evidence. Religion teaches you to be satisfied with not understanding the world.

  • @Critic863 Revelations in the bible came true. Bible has scientific facts scientist in this era just figured out. The world has alot of coincidences with 7s which is numberology which bible used alot. 7 colors, 7 continents, 7 days, 7 is the numbers most average human can remember, 7 oceans. In genesis first sentence there was 7 patterns of number 7s in the sentences, the bible codes showed 27 list of tree types in the same page, every story about real demons is solved by Jesus's name.

  • @flamer41 - The most likely way to describe that is that things were added to the bible once all of those things came into existence for humanity. There are no such things as demons. But, why are you even bringing up the bible in the first place?

  • Type this into YouTube search box,

    Famous Atheist Antony Flew Changes Mind, Believes in God

    When you get a chance watch "Expelled: No Intelligence Allowed"

    pay particular attention to Dawkins's consistent statements throughout the video. Then pay especially partiular attention to his absolute statement at the very end 4 minutes of the video and don't be a know-it-all or a cheat and jump right to the end because you think you know all that Dawkins would say.

  • This guy spent 8:45 to say nothing. God isn't a predator. Lucifer is.

  • The evidence is a personal expierience. Feeling the holy ghost, Seeing auras, hearing his voice, developing a strong conscience, losing interest in bad things, attracting different people and expieriences into your life, having an increased knowledge and understanding instantly, feeling more loving, feeling a presence, feeling content, feeling the hole that seems to consume everything become filled, noticing more coincidences, having strong intuition, seeing the effects of karma. all these.

  • @jasonwkeller76~Amen.

  • There is NO historical record for Jesus of Nazarath. Even if you compile what the authors of the bible say about a man they never met it would compile about 12 pages. Enjoy my video "Religious Fanatic tries to convert Atheist" on my channel. It's getting a lot of attention.

  • You are young. The young are notoriously cocky and the end seems too far off to seriously contemplate. However, should you make it to old age, the time will come when you are staring into the abyss as the old atheists and skeptics before you. We shall see how cocky you are then!

  • @edinvestor1 I'm young too.. and as old age comes I bet I'll not only start taking death seriously, I'll also start remembering the "good old days" of my youth, and complain about youngsters, public transport, the weather and "where society is going". I might also start pissing my pants. Your point? Rubbish. The disabilities of old age contain no excuse for their truthfulness. Would you say that at midlife crisis men realise the truth of needing a Porshe and a mistress?

  • the only thing I hate as an atheist is that after we die, we don't get to laugh at creationists in their face and tell them "hey, We told you so." thats going to be my last words.

  • One funny aspect of the 'last words' video is that is uses a fictional character from an old novel as one of the 'examples' and many of them were believers in god (one was a Cardinal for Christ's sake!).

    Overall not convincing because little of it can be trusted to be true, let alone relevant to atheists.

  • lol You have got to be kidding, talkymeat. In order to avoid hell, I think that you need to repent of your sins and accept Christ as your Savior before it is too late. You're a pompous deluded individual who believes that he can escape the wrath of God. The clock is ticking, talky.Repent now and be saved. And give your children a chance for eternal life. Your sarcasm and pride won't save you--but Jesus can. Ask him into your life.

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 lol You have got to be kidding, MrEdgarsraven9. In order to avoid Tartarus, I think that you need to repent of your sins and accept Amaterasu as your Savior before it is too late. You're a pompous deluded individual who believes that he can escape the wrath of Quetzalcoatl. The clock is ticking, MrEdgarsraven9.Repent now and be saved. And give your children a chance for eternal life. Your sarcasm and pride won't save you--but Nephthys can. Ask her into your life.

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 so if a criminal who killed a lot of people and was about to die and repent before dying he gets to go to heaven when a person who done nothing extreme as that and nothing really wrong and did charity and helped the poor and so forth goes to hell for all eternity just bc he didnt worship some god?

  • @TonPappa Why do you make the assumption that the criminal will be automatically rewarded, and the just man automatically condemned? According to the Christian faith, God sent His Son to die for sinners. For all have fallen short of the glory of God; hence, NO ONE is without sin. God determines who will or will not be saved.Of course, as an atheist, you are free to become a god unto yourself, choosing to be virtuous nor not virtuous whenever it suits you--but I wouldn't recommend it.

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 all i here from Christians is if you dont believe in him you go to hell. if you do you are more likely to be saved. but the bible is filled with so much crap apon crap its like a scary story. i meen have you ever read it? even in the new testament its still prity evil. also with that we all sined so the bible is going to blame me for something my grate grate etc uncle did? what happens if you put that in todays standards. if you commit a crime should your son be punished?

  • @TonPappa I sympathize. It is depressing, but look around you. Human nature is 'fallen.' Have you ever lied? Have you ever looked at a woman with lust in your heart? Have you ever disrespected your mother or father?We can talk about all of the good things that we have done-sure, but the Bible teaches that we have a natural predisposition to do the wrong thing, even when we want to do the right thing. It is a metaphysical, spiritual, moral problem that can't be resolved by atheism.

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 it also says kill witches and stone wizards. also for the lieing thing. if you were in ww2 and hitler came to your house asking if you were hiding jews would you say yes and have them taken away? or would you lie and sin to god? or if my father or mother were yelling at me and hitting me am i still supposed to respect them? or what happen in cases of insest or rape? are you still supposed to respect them? and no thoes didnt happen to me just stating what ifs.

  • @TonPappa Biblical passages can be read literally and metaphorically. The Ten Commandments are guidelines for right conduct. In your first example, to lie is the right thing to do. In the second, to condemn the bad behavior of one's parents is perfectly justifiable. There is no contradiction. Christian believers are expected to exercise moral discernment. God forgives, but God also has absolute sovereignty.Notice how the Apostles struggled to understand Jesus's message. God's ways are not ours.

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 the bible teaches us if you dont accept god and not follow the comadments you go to hell for all eternity. if your an atheist you would say to hitler that you arnt hiding jews and if your mother and father hit you or done other things you dont respect them for that but turn them in. btw the same god that killed over 25 mill people. all numbered accounts on how many people like moses or jhon god commanded to kill. an example first born baby's in Egypt. i have passages if you want?

  • @TonPappa God doesn't want anyone to be lost. He wants you to accept the sacrifice that was made on the cross for your sins. You can accept the gift or reject it. You're free to choose eternal life or the alternative.It's not about Bible passages and churches. It's about developing a relationship with Christ. Some want it; others dont.

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 how do you know its your god? if you believe in the Christan god than you follow the bible. you follow what it says bc your god commanded you to. if you dont like what the bible says than stoop calling yourself and be a freethinker. think. read the bible. if you read it you could see that thoes passages about people stoning other people or how to treat your slaves or other things that christains would ban in books. most dont even read the bible. i didnt. than i did and saw what

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 bs it is. you could believe in a god any god chose there are millions of gods and you have a 0.002% chance of being right but any god that says oh they got a hurricane bc they didnt believe enough or shit like that is a fucking loney. and especially if they sent them solar powered bibles instead of food and medical supplies. look. believe in your personal god. whatever. just if you do have comon sense and read the holy book and see what your christ is really about. dont by into

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 that stuff god is perfect bc it says so or you think it is. just be good for goodness sake. not bc it says so in a book that was written 300 years after Christ died but bc you know it is. if your god tells you to kill your son or daughter you wouldn't do it right? but in storys in the bible they teste people to do that and stopped only at the last minute.i hope that you could actually read the bible before you start saying how your biblical god is perfect in every way bc he isn't

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 Btw, you are presenting a false dichotomy when you write: "[God] .. wants you to accept the sacrifice that was made on the cross for your sins. You can accept the gift or reject it.". These are not the only two valid positions (accepting or rejecting Jesus's sacrifice). The major alternative is just simply not believing that such a sacrifice was made or that Jesus was divine. Such a person might in fact accept such a sacrifice if he began to believe it was real.

  • @8DX You are free to live by your atheist creed, and I am free to practice my religion. Or are you like most atheists, you are really interested in imposing your dogma on the rest of us (as in Stalin's Russia; Mao's China; Fidel's Cuba; Kim Jong Il's people's paradise in North Korea)?

  • @MrEdgarsraven9

    1) As an atheist I have no "creed"

    2) Yes you are free to "practice" religion. Tell me when you've "mastered" it.

    3) I don't have dogmas, I'm only interested in truth, not infallible statements

    4) wtf? What does totalitarianism have to do with my atheism? Should I start equating your beliefs with crusades, inquisition and the religious wars and brutal violence in Europe?

  • @8DX 1) I'm pleased that your brand of atheism is of the non-hateful kind. So far, in chats with atheists, it's clear that they detest theists.2)Christianity is not 'mastered.'It's an expression of belief in Jesus Christ.3)Great. Then you would be open to the proposition that the human personality survives death? Have you seriously investigated any of the evidence for paranormal activity?Or does your anti-theism bias prevent you from entertaining that possibility?

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 Of course I am open to any proposition if there is any reason to believe it. The proposition that human personality survives death seems to me to be highly contradictory to current knowledge. Personality and consciousness are products of the brain and when our brains die, there seems to me to be no process that could somehow transfer our neural configurations elsewhere. Pretty much the same can be said about paranormal activity - it contradicts what we do know about the world.

  • @MrEdgarsraven9 And I find it VERY telling that you completely ignored the gist of my comment - the points I was making concerning an invalid theological dichotomy, by making predjudiced and bigoted ad-hom remarks... you only just avoided Godwin's law.. cheers

  • @8DXAn atheist interested in theology?That is quite delightful. Re: "prejudiced and bigoted ad-hom remarks" I sincerely apologize. Chalk it up to my many chats with other members of your philosophical persuasion who enjoy venting their rage against Christ, Christians in general, the Roman Catholic faith (a favorite!), and so on.

  • "your philosophical persuasion" - And that is another false attribution. How do you know what my philosophical positions are? Yes, I'm an atheist but that says nothing about my general philosphy of life or my worldview. I may be a humanist, a naturalist, a nihilist, a sceptic or some kind of transcendentalist. I could be a communist or a pragmatist.

    Personally I've never seen an atheist "rage against Christ" - most often people get angry at nonsense being taken seriously.

  • @8DX Thank you for referencing Godwin. Coleridge is more to my taste. 

  • very good...but cant with absolute certainty rule out god,hell,heaven the soul with any of this.you could be wrong, you could be fk'd ,your daughters (possible) soul could be fk'd, because your as arrogant and fundamental as any religious nut..leave her to decide herself as i wished my hardliner catholic parents could have.ive come to my decision and hope i can make up for lost time.

  • @clobberknocker You seem to be claiming a great deal more knowledge of me as a person than could strictly be justified on the basis of a 9-minute video in which I debunk a specious argument for the existence of God (and I freely admit that that does not of itself constitute an argument against the existence of God). If you have a moment, have a quick scroll down the comments thread for a couple of remarks on Pascal's Wager (AKA the "but what if you're wrong?" argument).

  • @talkymeat : You're to young and ignorant of life to be able to know the amount of information necessary to be able to understand the information necessary to formulate an opinion based on the scientific eveidence of what science is now starting to refer as "The Grand Designer". You're trying to imitate Dawkins and you're doing a piss poor job of it as a matter of fact you're coming off as an arrogant know-it-all.

  • @StageMan

    Gee, how many scientific papers are published in biology journals with the term "great designer" used in them?

  • @smaakjeks no one! because this situation is out of science .does it mean god doesnt exist for u? no actually it means god is bigger than science

  • @esraretin

    "no one! because this situation is out of science"

    Agreed. God isn't a scientific hypothesis.

    "does it mean god doesnt exist for u? no actually it means god is bigger than science"

    When something is outside of science it means that it's:

    1) not testable.

    2) not distinguishable from non-existence.

    You seem to tout this as being a good thing. Science is the best method for exploring reality. If something is outside of science it means we can't explore it objectively.

  • @smaakjeks the best way is scientific thinking. this could be true !!but u please admit it ; u cant say anything about why we shouldnt kill someone if we re smart enough to hide it or strong etc..? of course if u think we shouldnt kill:D

  • @esraretin

    Let's settle God first, then we can move on to morals if you want.

    "the best way is scientific thinking. this could be true"

    It is demonstrably the case. And since we can't explore God with science (i.e. objectively), then we cannot know if any gods exist. That does not make God superior to science any more than every other non-scientific idea. God is supernatural, and so you either have to believe on faith, or ignore him since he is not distinguishable from non-existence.

  • @smaakjeks i just can feel god or supernatural things sometimes.especially when im stoned:D but this is true.u know people call it being high. wht if being able to feel god is contained with a kind of thinking ability that i dont have in normally ? isnt it a positivistic question?

  • @esraretin

    "i just can feel god or supernatural things sometimes"

    But, the trouble with feeling stuff is that there is an overlap of things you feel that do exist (independent of you), and things you feel that only exist in your mind or experience. So, we have to use science to distinguish between things that do and do not exist.

    I've discussed with someone else who speculated about experiences on drugs being real. Again, the problem is with distinction of real and subjective.

  • @smaakjeks we can observe which part of brain is about that idea.just like experiments on schizophreania (spelling!!) or some mental illnesses.how can u prove that they see things in their mind? i think same question.

  • @esraretin

    The brain is affected by drugs, there is no argument there.

    "how can u prove that they see things in their mind?"

    When people experience altered reality, only they experience it, and it can be explained by brain chemistry. If one is to suggest that actual reality changes when one takes drugs, then the burden of proof rests on them, right?

  • @smaakjeks yes. i just cant understand how can someone say -i dont believe god or supernatural things(they rent scintific ok ) i really wonder their thougths but they cant explain or i cant get it.our sentences dont have to be like scientific articles always.why dont they explain wht they think. u know einstein said -the idea of god seems to me childish. when he was old. but most of atheists always talk about -this is scientific ,this is not.. even einstein think about god if u see wht he said?