Is it true that a solar storm in magnitude such as the one that occurred in 1859 could cripple the electrical grid of the US?
As far as I know the electrical grid is comprised of multi-million dollar transformers that take years to fabricate and when a solar storm hits the large land masses on earth the "energy" effectively has to go somewhere. Because the transformers are grounded, they will absorb some of this energy which could potentially fry them.
Scientists are saying the solar storms headed our way in 2012-2013 could fry satellite solar panels,power lines & transformers.This is no Hollywood movie.This is what scientists are saying. NOVA also presented that the earth's magnetic field is & has been rapidly weakening. This field protects earth from solar debris & radiation so when these solar storms hit our shields will be down.Presently magnetic North is moving toward Russia at 40 miles per year.It seems the pole shift has begun
First, the 30kw you stated for the scaled version is that a monthly figure?
Second, its seems you are saying it operates around 50% efficiency (whats the exact figure?).
Third, would that efficiency increase or decrease when you scale it up?
Fourth, what is the operational life of the system and what kind of maintenance is needed? Its seems that that kind of temperature continuously focused on the cylinder would weaken the metal over time.
There's been a lot of news recently about sunspots and solar flares. I was wondering if these have any effect on solar power systems? Do they create more electricity than normal during solar activity?
Interestingly enough even though solar panels are designed to operate off of solar protons, those very protons damage solar panels especially in excess. Satellites which function off of solar are the most vulnerable in space.
solar panels will degrade by about 20-25% during the 10 to 15-year lifetimes of modern GEO satellites. solar flares and proton storms can cause a satellite to end its service several years earlier.
News always focuses on events related to the public grid system which does fry circuits, as well as power lines so it would seem not just the solar panel itself could be overloaded & that is the key word, overloaded. What is the max rating of the solar panel? then follow all the circuits from the solar panel, throughout the converter box. Anyone of those circuits could be fried.
It seems that electronics should be shielded. I learned this in studying EMP blasts from above air nuclear blasts. The EMP wave fries all electronics within it's range. The military has developed specifically an EMP weapon avoiding the actual nuclear blast. Something very similar are homemade microwave weapons made from microwave ovens, when aimed at electronics the electronic device fails just like with EMP blasts but focused only on specific items.
Not all military vehicles are shielded against an EMP blast or against a microwave weapon but I suppose the most crucial vehicles are protected, so this is the secret to protecting circuitry against such a pulse of energy. At this point I am not sure what material to use but in an experiment I wanted to see why people joke about wearing an aluminum foil hat. What purpose would that serve?
So I took my tri-field meter, set it to the radio/microwave setting, turned on the household microwave and the signal reads 20 ft from the microwave. I then encased the entire microwave minus the vent in aluminum foil & no matter how close I got to the microwave there was not a single reading coming from the microwave. Aluminum foil blocks microwaves, communications & weapons use microwaves. Maybe aluminum foil protects circuits from similar energy pulses.
The solar panel itself is the most vulnerable as it must remain exposed to the sun but I do believe you can protect all the other circuitry. It all depends upon the intensity of the proton blast from the sun as to what it will penetrate such as the steel hood on your car, inside the metal or plastic box that contains the electronic brain of your car. Most cars prior to1970s would be less vulnerable but today's cars are extremely vulnerable depending upon blast intensity.
To answer your final question do solar flares create more electrical energy than normal solar activity.
Yes, normal solar activity is about 4 x 1018 Joules per year.
solar flares can release as much as 6 × 1025 joules of energy. Many electronics absorb this energy which is what overloads them. Electronics can be designed to shield from that but everything is based upon cost of production.
why is it ALWAYS about oney...who gives a fk about how many millionaires it can make....how about not making millionares from something that falls free on ur head...how about we just work on improving this fkd up planet and the greedy ideals that have been accepted
When it comes right down to the nitty gritty, money is the most important thing in your life. You don't think much about it if you have plenty but money means food in your stomach, a roof over your head & that car in the driveway. Money is necessary unless you live as a naked nomad in the jungle but for some they never have enough money & always strive for more. What happens when people have no jobs? They scream to the government, make jobs for us & the corporations do just that.
All of our livelihoods are linked together. When there is an oil rush it creates jobs in that region. All of the heavy equipment purchased & labor required allows people to make a living & that all has a trickle effect all the way down to the restaurant worker or the lawn care workers. Big industry is the necessary evil, Government is the necessary evil as since Roosevelt they do manipulate the job market so that all of us stay working, the fact is stability requires management.
Managing the slow introduction of new technologies is crucial to the stability of jobs when 1 single invention will wipe out the entire oil industry & the millions of oil byproducts we rely so heavily on.That same invention can wipe out all coal & uranium mining,hydrogen,natural gas etc etc etc.The impact to society although good for the planet would destroy our lives the same as a world wide catastrophic meteor impact. This is why we are only allowed slow changes to a better planet
@FreeGlobalEnergy i dont really think i can accept that...i think that moving into new technologies would create jobs.. from construction and engineers for the buildings to the facotry workers to make the stuff... i dont see why so many people strive to be millionaires.. sure their needs to be some form of exchange for goods and services but why people are so obsessed with making more then they need idk.. enough to support a family and a vacation once a year should be enough
That's highly debatable. I move appliances for a living. Paid 2 guys to assist me. I bought a lift gate on my truck & an electric stair climbing hand cart & laid off the 2 employees. The lift gate should be in service for 30yrs. The hand cart should be in service for 20yrs before changing out chains & sprockets. I don't think there is enough man hours in the machines to make up for the 2 guys I laid off for 30yrs replaced by machines
Have you seen the automobile manufacturing plants today? Robots build & paint our cars & a low paid tech simply watches the computers to make sure they function but the computers are ever growing smarter. Nuclear power plants are smarter because the technology gets smarter. Someday the smart Japanese robot ASIMO will walk the beat & maybe even repair the other computers & machines. Smart robots doing your job, robots building robots, what will you do when that day comes?
When I was a boy I watched the transition from a service station attendant go to self serve, you could actually save money at the self serve pumps but with the machines that take credit cards eliminated the need for an attendant, in fact the station could close for the night yet still serve customers, that was amazing. That's good for the owner but not the kid who needed a job as an attendant. So where did that job go? ...to the Japanese circuit board designers.
Everybody has their obsessions & their addictions, some are addicted to money. It feels good when I am rolling in used appliances & people are loading me up with cash... feels really good & motivates a person to want to not only keep that going or want to corner the market. There are those who become territorial & will beat the shit out of anyone in their territory. Rich people use the courts & false imprisonment to attack their competitors.
Let's say hypothetically you own oil stock & it supports your lavish lifestyle then one man threatens all that you have. If his invention will force you to be a bum on the streets, your children have no home & the state will take them away to live in a foster home & your wife has left you for a wealthy man like you once were, just exactly what would you do to stop this invention from getting to market?
This is reality & people do protect their stocks & their corporations at all cost
Your still young but what if you spent 10-20 yrs going to college for a career, you have loans to pay off & at 48yrs old your life is just starting to get real good, loans paid off, house paid off, money in the bank for your kids college then I come along & I have something that will remove the way you & many others make a living & you can never recover nor have enough life energy to spend another 10-20yrs learning a new trade & all you have to do is take me out. What do you do?
@FreeGlobalEnergy well thats really the problem right there isnt it...too many rich fks worried only about themselves..why do the curciut board designers have to be japanese..why not american??to think everything will one day be automated is unlikely..even where we stand now it would only take a few big emps to down the whole country, so not only is it unlikely, its dangerous... and if it ever did go there it would cost far less to produce anything we need to live and people could....cont
@FreeGlobalEnergy ..focus on learning about tech and work on futher improving that tech and designing new tech....maybe these ideas are impossible,childishly optimistic or just plain naive...but in a pefect world it could and should deff work......but again, sadly, we dont live in a perfect world... but if ur right then no new energy tech will ever see production unless its made to be public knowledge..imagine if tessa had printed his designs and handed them out in mass.may be the only choice
@Ramshobraja are you kinding...most people have already forgotten BPs disaster.... they still have gas stations open right...there was no boycott..... everyone went back to thier stupid useless pointless lives and forgot all about the rest of the world
The planet is quite resilient in many ways but it can't filter quick enough what we pump into it, but we all contribute every time we start a car or even use public transit, turn on a light which either uses coal or nuclear energy or every time we buy consumer products that contain oil byproducts or anything made in a factory. We all contribute to the poisoning of this planet, as a result the oceans have gone from a high PH to acid making all ocean life weaker, making humans weaker.
Nobody will boycott oil, perhaps temporarily but I have to use my truck to haul appliances. If I used horse & buggy a 30 minute pick up could take me most of the day just to get there & back, besides, it's against the law to ride horses on the streets, I checked. Police do it but they are above the law.
We are stuck, we cannot go back, we can only move forward & much of the futuristic advanced technology is being suppressed because the planet still has plenty of Black Gold to sell
you had to buy the materials from someone to make the sterling engine. you will need batteries to store it, land to put it on, etc. etc. how is it free? I think you mean renewable resource.
@WarGamezzz the word "Free Energy" applies to the device after it is built. If you bought a replacement engine for your car for $5000 & never had to refuel it for your entire life & you installed another engine on your home never paying an energy bill saving you many hundreds of thousands of dollars you wouldn't call that Free Energy but then complain decades from now that you had to buy the damn thing?
@WarGamezzz Renewable resource has a very broad meaning. You could burn wood, plant, hemp alcohol etc but it all needs to be continuously planted, grown, cut with machines that presently burn Diesel, put on Semi-trucks that presently burn Diesel, processed which consumes electricity from coal or nuclear plants etc but Energy that is Free is that which does not require any labor or expenditure to receive the fuel. The Sun runs on it's own for now & it's Free to use.
@WarGamezzz A solar panel is a Free Energy device in that once built you will never have to pay for the fuel input. That is the concept of a free energy device. Solar panels have been extremely expensive in the past but the regular size of one array has now been reduced to a size that fits in the palm of your hand yet produces the same amount of current as the larger array because now they utilize ultraviolet rays along with actual light, they work on cloudy days & after dawn.
@WarGamezzz Solar advancements never stop, someday they will be sensitive enough to run off of Moon & starlight. They don't have to be as expensive as they are but corporate control & demand may skyrocket the price just like some prescription drugs only cost a penny per tablet yet may sell for $20 per tablet so that is the frustrating situation & since everything must compete with oil then this palm held free energy device will be cheap to manufacture but extremely expensive to buy.
@WarGamezzz Often times there are different comprehensions of the term Free Energy. Some think the energy is coming from nowhere, creating itself like in overunity, that defies the present understanding of the laws of physics. The energy does have to come from somewhere. Some devices use the sun, magnets or perhaps various energies that surround all of us that most may not comprehend how or what is being tapped into, then there are the fraudsters.
@WarGamezzz We trace solar energy to the sun but how did the sun get filled with so much fuel to burn so long? How lucky we are to have at least one of them. In space there are constant energy explosions. Our solar system is full of energy but where does all of that come from, is the energy created? Do the same laws of physics on earth also apply to space?
Let me get this right... 30 ft diameter is about 68 M^ 2. 30kw/67 m^2= 0.44 kw/m^2, or 440 watts/m^2. Sun is about 1000-1200 w/m^2, so he is claiming 36-44% efficiency. If it is true that is a world record...
But I have seen stirlings, and NONE get this kind of efficiency. The cycle is not good enough. Hmmm.
Why aren't we exploiting this? Would it not convert excess heat into work? We could cool the planet down if we had enough of these things running and get energy too :) I'm gonna build a big one I know how to get around the lubricating problem but I am not telling lol
where can you find plans for making something like this? the only plans i've found so far are for making them out of old cans and other junk. i want to actually machine the parts, but have no idea of what dimensions to use....
but a weighted flywheel would turn longer even when the piston wasn't powering it if a simply coaster type system were used. Something like the coaster on a bicycle that allows the rear wheel to spin even when it isn't being powered by the chain.
I guess having that in egypt would get full of sand? Well if you guys are interested I would like to do something like it in Mexico, just sun, no sand millons of homes!
iam with you all the way,iam un egypt at the moment,maybe we could make a huge 40 feet prototype making 40KW to use as desalination unit,maybe turn the desert back into forests.
yes you do , which is the reason that the orginal stirling engines used air at 1 atm. Building hermedically sealed systems makes it possible for the newest versions to use high pressure hydrogen but even then they need peroidic refilling. High pressure hydrogen gives a lot higher efficiency and pays for itself very quickly .
nuclear fusion can be turned on and off like natural gas or oil. you can turn the sun on and off when you need it. you would simply need to re-vamp the current power plants to run with nuclear fusion. there would be no new infrastructure required and hydrrogen is the most abundant element in the universe so runing out isnt going to be a problm. it may not be re-new able per say, but you certainly wouldnt need 50 acrs of these to powr the u.s. and it will work when ever and where ever you need it
this is a cool little thing and the huge version of it can run entire cities (about 50 acres of these could sustain the us indeffinatly) but its not practical. although it is theoretically possible, you would need to build so much new infrastructure, boatloads of massive battaries and new power lines that would be to expensive to maintain. besides, the average lithium ion battery can only be charged and discharged about 100 times before its total garbage. the future is nuclear fusion
They need to fix the waste problem with nuclear power. Nuclear power carries a scare factor, dating back to the 1960's. No matter how effective nuclear power is, until they can get around the waste and upfront costs problem, it'll be a dead duck.
eeeeeehhhhhh.......good point but your also wrong. nuclear power is actually not effitiant at all, it just got so much government funding that that money soaked up (and is still soaking up) the losses. nuclear power obviously needs uranium, but that needs to be enriched for it to be any good. its only about 0.5 percent radioactive and that needs to be brought up to atleast 3% for nuclear power to be taken from it. the problm is that the enrichng process uses so much energy you actually lose som
I really hope this get onto the market! i think that solar is where it is, because people simply don't like wind turbines enough (i like them). they think they're intrusive and what not. this sterling engine idea is awesome though!
I know very little about engineering, but it was interesting when he mentioned that he needs a 30-foot diameter dish to produce 30kW. How is this calculated?
but why would you need 30 kw? for one household you need only 1 k w ,,, i dont know if this value is true but every square meter gives you about 1 KW then you have to subtract all the ineffeicincies , 2-3% to the mirror, about 60-70 % for the sterling, maybe 50% to the generator and i dont know how much percentage to the storage battries before oyu could use it as useful electrical.
Yea but you also store energy in batteries, and most homes do not use 5-10kW ALL the time. All though I know we are talking averages, you don't go running your microwave and stove all day long?
i have the older twin flywheel version of this exact engine. i used to belt a small dc motor to it to run a fan. but now my engine no longer runs the cylender got all gunked up i think during storage do you know how i could fix this. could i take apart the engine without harming it to thoughly clean it? and is the cyl gas filled? i bought it off a neighbor for $1. so i dont know anything about it. but i think its from the 60's.
The only problem with this technology is that it would require more than just the device shown here. You need a heliostat to make the device follow the sun in order for it to operate properly, that's where you main equipment and maintenance costs are going to lie. The sterling engine itself requires very little maintenance at all and often don't even need lubricants. They just do their thing.
Yes, but without some type of lubricant you run into one of the main foes of efficiency, friction. which in theory might help the hot side of the engine but is still going to lower the efficiency of the power piston.
Solar is free energy. Build the device then it produces free energy after that. Everything costs money to build but what makes it free is that you are not buying fuel then burning it inside the device.
When I refer to free I mean monetarily free, people try to get too deep on that subject like the sun is not free it uses gasses, well thats so stupid because nobody ever sent me a bill in the mail for using the sun to grow my vegetables,all that matters is I dont have to buy fuel for a solar panel
me and my friend where argueing over which one was more efficient a solar cell or a sterling engine hooked up with a concave or parabolic mirror. Now I am just going to through this out their. I don't care how I get the energy I only care about whether or not it is a fossil fuel base and if so I won't use it. I just don't care what it is. So this idea works for me. Same as a solar cell. Doesn't matter how you get the energy just so long as it doesn't pollute.
That's a no brainer. He said a 30 foot diameter dish would produce 30 kw power. A 30 kw pv array using 200 watt panels will cover over 1800 square feet.
So, like you said, you still have to pay for the equipment to harvest the energy, plus maintenance on that equipment, plus you'll have to replace it every so often, not to mention cost and maintenance of the equipment you're powering. So really, it isn't free at all, it's just "low-cost" energy.
Still a matter of perspective. If I buy a gasoline generator I have all that maintenance plus the cost of fuel.
Lets say you had a magnetic engine in your car, you paid $2000 for, you drove 80 miles per day for 10yrs before it needed replacement parts. If someone asked, ´Hey is that free energy as you never put fuel in it?´ Would you say ´Nope, I had to pay $2000, its not free at all?´ The term free energy does not apply to the cost of the device but if it requires fuels you pay for
hi sir: where can i buy those engines? i need one in the range of 5- 1000 watts , this is because i am doing experiemnts on solar energy and i need it can you guide me where you obtained that hydrogen sterling engine? All the manufacturreres i contacted didnt answer and the others only seell small sterlings which are not optimized any way but just for show. thank you
It will never be available, as long as there is oil in the ground or water to convert to hydrogen to sell to the public it will never be allowed on the market. If you watch my Free Global Energy Playlist you will know why from the first 3-4 videos
30 foot diameter stirling holds the record at 30% conversion efficiency but since size is related to efficiency that little thing he was holding is likley 2% effiicent on a hot day.
@WarGamezzz instead of batteries there is the possibility of solar panels running a compressor to fill large underground tanks which then at night run a compressed air engine which runs a generator. I have seen the air powered cars & they are very noisy but for a house I suppose the air out from the engine could be piped underground as a suppressor or muffler. I have no specs on this & no idea of the efficiency but it is an interesting idea.
@WarGamezzz Other energy storage are capacitors. Capacitors store their energy in an electrostatic field rather than in chemical form. Japanese have been trying to use capacitors in EV's rather than the well known battery types but I haven't checked lately to see if they have accomplished this. Ideally battery storage should be maintenance free, inexpensive & have a very long life. All in good time. All forms of energy technology continue to improve
Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators are nuclear powered heat gen using energy emitted by decay of radioactive isotopes of Plutonium to provide the heat which in turn is used to generate electric power in a thermoelectric generator. the energy is created using the intermediate thermoelectric process the conversion efficiency is only 4%, but the energy density of the radioactive source is 1000s of times greater than Lithium Ion batteries which provides batteries that never need recharging.
@WarGamezzz depending on which energy supersedes the other may decide which energy powers the world. Keep in mind that wasteful energy sources creates jobs for the masses & generates more tax $ for Gov. Efficiency cuts jobs, cuts purchasing, cuts tax revenue. With Governments that control these are factors but Toshiba has built a small self contained Breeder Reactor that will run a small city for 40yrs without refueling. Efficient nuclear energy is very likely our future
@WarGamezzz If you study The Breeder Reactor it has an interesting history. Present nuclear plants only utilize 1% of the energy contained in plutonium, but the Breeder reactor utilizes approx 95% & the radioactive waste is only alive for 40-50yrs rather than 1000s of yrs with todays reactors. If all countries used breeder reactors we could power the entire planet for 100yrs re burning all of the past waste without ever having to mine 1 spec of uranium.
@WarGamezzz I have listened to physicists who worked on reactors for decades. At certain moments some projects became secret to avoid competitors getting a leg up but once patents were secure the information was published. It's really difficult to do but there are reactors that you can be shut down immediately & there is no radioactivity. That's why I think there could eventually be such a thing as nuclear powered cars some century
Key, you are being ignorant.How can you have the internet at your disposal yet still think such moronic crap.Research Sterling energy systems before throwing out your obviously unintelligent opinions. :P
Why do ignorant people insist on being right.Just go back to your cave.
No its not were do you get you info from a crackerjack box? Man youtube realy brings out alot of loosers! Do some reaserch before you post next time they are building these in mass scale for 2009 for cali as we speek. This is the most eficent way of catching solar power we have so far and it is 100% clean not like nuclear that has waste that has a toxic shelf life of 40 000 or more years!
Considering Obama pledged not to invest in Nuclear technologies and it would take more than a year to build up that kind of infrastructure were he voted out... I highly doubt that nuclear fission is going to play a role in our energy future. Now fusion on the other hand...
I remember him saying in a debate that nuclear energy would play a role in his plan, but he could've just been saying that to get votes. Fusion is impractical because we cannot sustain the reaction in a controlled manner. Eventually, I'm sure, we'll figure out a way, but until then nuclear power is the best and most efficient option for energy production.
yeah, could we get an update on this thing, I mean its just a prototype, and I haven't heard anything about it since it was posted here in this video...
Is there a formula to gauge HP or Torque that can be produce from a sterling engine? Example: Solar collector size to diameter of engine, length of piston chamber, gears, pulleys, and so on....? I'm not an engineer; Just a curious person? Does anyone know of a message board or group that discusses their do's and don'ts in building these machines?
The million-dollar question is, does it produce enough torque to turn a generator motor? I'm not doubting the technology, it's just that I have yet to see one of these videos actually show one producing usable electricity. I hope they do, because it's a brilliant idea!
Now THIS is good. Sterling Energy Systems (SES) and Infina are actually manufacturing these. SES is working with Southern Cal utlities to develop large scale plants. Infinia is after the residential/commercial buidling market.
This technology has been around since the early 70's , and made the cover of popular science magazine. It has been suppressed all these years by big oil. This invention has merit, but like all other great inventions for free energy, they get bought up and snuffed out by the fossil fuel industry. The movie "Who killed the electric car" is a prime example!
i have a window AC, when it runs, it blows hot air out the back straight into the atmosphere. for a long time i have been thinking if you can capture that heat and convert it back to useable energy. maybe the sterling engin can be powered by the hot air of a AC unit, which can then power a generator, and feed the AC unit partially, where making the whole cooling system more efficient, and reduce the amout of heat released into the atmosphere.
There's a German company that uses the waste heat from furnaces to run sterling engines to power generators. The electricity produced is sold back to the electric company.
I don't think the hot air exhaust of an AC unit would contain enough energy to do any useful work though.
what i don't understand, is that, does the sterling engine not nessesarly run off of heat, but it runs off of "heat differential"? so if you put the whole unit in the oven, would it work?
I'm seeing all kinds of "green/free energy" ideas but I have never seen anyone hook one of there contraptions up to a generator and do some real work. It's like UFOs, I've never seen one.
That's because you haven't been looking. Look up SES Stirling Energy Systems. They are building two huge 300MW - 500 MW solar fields for Southern California Edison using the exact same technology described in the video. President Bush even paid a visit. Concentrated Solar power and the Sterling Engine seem to be really under reported even though its more efficient than solar panels.
Free after set up. Theres no such thing as free energy, if you consider the startup cost. The point is to produce energy that surpasses the startup cost in value.
1 unit can power 10 homes for 25 k,so you figure thats 10 Americans with 1 years worth of a average tax return then there energy free, off the grid.This will only work if we all contribute information and awareness,truly left up to each and every one of us.See but we are all to quick to discount out own impact,this whole concept can move as fast as a thought,so whats your thought, beneficial or non-beneficial? PAIN
Why not? Its just tin foil a dish and a small motor. The start up cost (manufacturing) will be exceeded by the energy produced (actually, refined would be the better term) over its lifespan.
The sun is giving it away for free. Whats the problem?
1 unit can power 10 homes for 25 k,so you figure thats 10 Americans with 1 years worth of a average tax return then there energy free, off the grid.This will only work if we all contribute information and awareness,truly left up to each and every one of us.See but we are all to quick to discount out own impact,this whole concept can move as fast as a thought,so whats your thought, beneficial or non-beneficial? PAIN
I'm guessing your talking about a larger version... didn't he say that this produces 30kw a day which is the same as the average use of an American home? I think that lots of smaller units would be safer and more efficient... no energy transport, no loss, no dependency on a central system...
I wonder if that "Tiny, but mighty" engine from Angel Labs could be adapted. They are claiming a 60% efficiency compared to 20% of most engines. The eight pistons travel in a donut shaped piston. They are also developing pumps and compressors.
It's been said that a Stirling engine is impractical as you can't really control power output as you can with a combustion engine--stepping on the gas increases power output, where the power output of a Sterling engine is variable. The way around that is simple. You don't use the Sterling engine as your primary power source, you use it to charge your primary power source, one where power output CAN be controlled--by hooking it up to a battery. Endless electrical power, for next to nothing.
If I wanted to read I would be setting in my easy chair with a book ! I'm watching videos so I can learn how to do stuff: so how do I build this dish thing and save the earth from all my pollution ?!?!?!?!?!?!? Who gave it a world record? Where is their web site and instruction video ????????
I have one more place you can check; It is the web site of the producer of the SEGWAY (try SEGWAY on any search engine or the inventor DEAN KAMEN). He uses one of those STIRLING engine to run is house/complex somewhere in the states (I think). He is one of many!
Yes! this principle really works out pretty good! You can find some of them machines on e-bay that work with minimal temp. difference (from your hand!; gadgets). They do use many different gasses (like air). It comes from the 19th century and it can really produce good (almost free) energy output. The biggest working machine I saw (only in picture) dated back from the 1843 and produced 3 kw of energy and that was from 3 degree diff. in temp. but the machine was huge (Size of a modern bus. ).
I just noticed the heading of the vid; it should be STIRLING ENGINE (try this in any surch engine): there are so many sites you will be reading/watching for days. The latest I have seen was 3-5 days ago from DISCOVERY chanel from a company named SES, It uses big mirors with huge stirling engines, 6 apparatus to run a military base in south usa. Just type it in Youtube. STIRLING ENGINE.
Wow I can't believe I've never thought of a solar-powered sterling! That's a great idea. The world's record for most efficient solar system? I certainly hope that gets fully developed.
Great concept, but at present, very impractical; how much torque do you think that thing generates... hardly any. I can only imagine the size of the parabola that would be needed to generate enough torque to power something like a refrigerator.
jkcwebs, Starting at 3:03 he says 30 foot diameter dish (9 meter) can produce 30 KW of electric power on sunny day.
I'm the guy who likes to shoot down the crackpots and scammers with their perpetual motion machines and voodoo physics. But this is real, and it could be practical. Hydrogen under pressure has problems, but those are technical hurdles. Helium works too as do other gases. It's just that from a thermodynamic viewpoint hydrogen is really good.
This is true. I did the math. 30' diameter = 760 square feet. The power from the sun is 130 watts per square foot in a sunny area. That gives you about 100 KW for that diameter. Sterling engine efficiencies are limited to about 30% so that's 30 KW.
wow, this is awesome, keep us informed guys, also could you clarify the efficiency here? some numbers or spreadsheet would be much appreciated and link to your website pls..
Monocrystaline Si solar cells run about 15 to 20% efficient. Stirling engine uses the Carnot cycle to convert heat to mechanical energy. The theoretical max efficiency of Carnot cycle for 1300 Kelvins hot & 300 Kelvins cold would be 77%. Of course the mechanics of the Stirling engine, inefficiencies of heat transfer, working gas, and other losses would drag that down. I don't know how to calculate those, but if we guess 60% then the figure of 3 or 4 times better fits.
actually Sterling engines run on any difference in temperature (as long as its big enough) so you might be able to use it at night, but you would have to stick one heat source in the ground (cause it's always a certain temperature; i think like, 50 something degrees) and the other cold source in the air (cause it gets cold at night.
I will get back to you on that once viewed.Whole thing is over 7 hours.plus the demonstration DVD. The metro in the background has a carbon fiber 5k psi tank for "H" and runs on that or 5-7% 'H' to gasoline or anything else that burns.Also runs on Turpines,which are waste matter mainly of citrus turned into a fuel via destructive distillation.The car can run on very poor octane gasoline,or moonshine with the 5-7% 'H'!
By the way Roid, I wasn't trying to sound like an ass,I am just wanting to learn more as I hope everyone else here is.I dont expect anyone to take the word of someone they know nothing about,but I encourage you to look at some of his research.I have the DVD with this on it,andit is only a fragment of what is mentioned as the topic is converting ICEs to run on "H" cheap,also multifuels.Like,$25 cheap.
not an ass at all, i greatly appreciate the discussion. Don't get me wrong, i think Stirlings are AWESOME (for the same reasons chaoszen said above). But they don't produce the efficiencies that Roy here is claiming - i'd like someone to prove me wrong i really would.
Yes, it is Roy McCallaster and you can find him at knowledgepublications dotcom.That is assuming he is still alive, the guy in fiming is pretty damn smart as well,was an engineer for chrysler for 10 yrs.I agree with you,I look into as many types of energy I can.The DVDs are a touch expensive,bbut well laid out..I have the 3 that came with the MultiFueled engine pack.2 are classroom electrochemistry I havent watched yet,but it says on the contents myths and truths of H2 stirlings.
I cant seem to pull up my favorites or send a message to you directly on this pc, mabee I need IE 6 or something, but Im on dialup..I could copy..when I get the blank disks if interested.Unemployed at the moment so not at the top of the list,but glad to share.I bought them for like $100,which seemed absurd,but I was ignorant and wanted more truth before building something that would cost more and end up a paperweight..glad I did.
nah it's ok. given the bad first impression i'm not particularly confident he knows what he's talking about unfortunately, i wouldn't pay for the dvd or want you to goto any trouble.
when/if you end up watching that chapter, i'm interested if you want to tell me about it (hope your PC can send messages by then)
haven't seen the whole dvd set, but the hydrogen engine fundamentals vid is on youtube in 10 bits. very worthwhile. the series is in my favourites and playlists. watch it if you have any interest in hydrogen as a fuel.
The photovoltaic vs solar-sterling debate has more to do with cost of production in making each and what can be done with a given amount of surface area. In this regaurd, the advancement of photovoltaic materials keeps it a close race, but I still prefer the sterling method as it's ease of construction and availability of materials is still far more easily available to the average person.
Open source the project!
xamox 4 months ago
If you don't get the funding you should open source the project.
xamox 4 months ago
Is it true that a solar storm in magnitude such as the one that occurred in 1859 could cripple the electrical grid of the US?
As far as I know the electrical grid is comprised of multi-million dollar transformers that take years to fabricate and when a solar storm hits the large land masses on earth the "energy" effectively has to go somewhere. Because the transformers are grounded, they will absorb some of this energy which could potentially fry them.
megalo 5 months ago
@megalo
Scientists are saying the solar storms headed our way in 2012-2013 could fry satellite solar panels,power lines & transformers.This is no Hollywood movie.This is what scientists are saying. NOVA also presented that the earth's magnetic field is & has been rapidly weakening. This field protects earth from solar debris & radiation so when these solar storms hit our shields will be down.Presently magnetic North is moving toward Russia at 40 miles per year.It seems the pole shift has begun
GlobalAwareness2525 5 months ago
I have a couple questions.
First, the 30kw you stated for the scaled version is that a monthly figure?
Second, its seems you are saying it operates around 50% efficiency (whats the exact figure?).
Third, would that efficiency increase or decrease when you scale it up?
Fourth, what is the operational life of the system and what kind of maintenance is needed? Its seems that that kind of temperature continuously focused on the cylinder would weaken the metal over time.
brockunc 5 months ago
nice metro in the background! if it was the xfi model you could be gettin 72 mpg! :D
ethanstephenson 8 months ago
There's been a lot of news recently about sunspots and solar flares. I was wondering if these have any effect on solar power systems? Do they create more electricity than normal during solar activity?
SunGreenSolarEnergy 11 months ago
@SunGreenSolarEnergy
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Interestingly enough even though solar panels are designed to operate off of solar protons, those very protons damage solar panels especially in excess. Satellites which function off of solar are the most vulnerable in space.
solar panels will degrade by about 20-25% during the 10 to 15-year lifetimes of modern GEO satellites. solar flares and proton storms can cause a satellite to end its service several years earlier.
FreeGlobalEnergy 11 months ago
@SunGreenSolarEnergy
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News always focuses on events related to the public grid system which does fry circuits, as well as power lines so it would seem not just the solar panel itself could be overloaded & that is the key word, overloaded. What is the max rating of the solar panel? then follow all the circuits from the solar panel, throughout the converter box. Anyone of those circuits could be fried.
FreeGlobalEnergy 11 months ago
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It seems that electronics should be shielded. I learned this in studying EMP blasts from above air nuclear blasts. The EMP wave fries all electronics within it's range. The military has developed specifically an EMP weapon avoiding the actual nuclear blast. Something very similar are homemade microwave weapons made from microwave ovens, when aimed at electronics the electronic device fails just like with EMP blasts but focused only on specific items.
FreeGlobalEnergy 11 months ago
@SunGreenSolarEnergy
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Not all military vehicles are shielded against an EMP blast or against a microwave weapon but I suppose the most crucial vehicles are protected, so this is the secret to protecting circuitry against such a pulse of energy. At this point I am not sure what material to use but in an experiment I wanted to see why people joke about wearing an aluminum foil hat. What purpose would that serve?
FreeGlobalEnergy 11 months ago
@SunGreenSolarEnergy
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So I took my tri-field meter, set it to the radio/microwave setting, turned on the household microwave and the signal reads 20 ft from the microwave. I then encased the entire microwave minus the vent in aluminum foil & no matter how close I got to the microwave there was not a single reading coming from the microwave. Aluminum foil blocks microwaves, communications & weapons use microwaves. Maybe aluminum foil protects circuits from similar energy pulses.
FreeGlobalEnergy 11 months ago
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The solar panel itself is the most vulnerable as it must remain exposed to the sun but I do believe you can protect all the other circuitry. It all depends upon the intensity of the proton blast from the sun as to what it will penetrate such as the steel hood on your car, inside the metal or plastic box that contains the electronic brain of your car. Most cars prior to1970s would be less vulnerable but today's cars are extremely vulnerable depending upon blast intensity.
FreeGlobalEnergy 11 months ago
@SunGreenSolarEnergy
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To answer your final question do solar flares create more electrical energy than normal solar activity.
Yes, normal solar activity is about 4 x 1018 Joules per year.
solar flares can release as much as 6 × 1025 joules of energy. Many electronics absorb this energy which is what overloads them. Electronics can be designed to shield from that but everything is based upon cost of production.
FreeGlobalEnergy 11 months ago
@SunGreenSolarEnergy Not that I have measured
KesslersCross 7 months ago
why is it ALWAYS about oney...who gives a fk about how many millionaires it can make....how about not making millionares from something that falls free on ur head...how about we just work on improving this fkd up planet and the greedy ideals that have been accepted
hardhatg69 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
When it comes right down to the nitty gritty, money is the most important thing in your life. You don't think much about it if you have plenty but money means food in your stomach, a roof over your head & that car in the driveway. Money is necessary unless you live as a naked nomad in the jungle but for some they never have enough money & always strive for more. What happens when people have no jobs? They scream to the government, make jobs for us & the corporations do just that.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
All of our livelihoods are linked together. When there is an oil rush it creates jobs in that region. All of the heavy equipment purchased & labor required allows people to make a living & that all has a trickle effect all the way down to the restaurant worker or the lawn care workers. Big industry is the necessary evil, Government is the necessary evil as since Roosevelt they do manipulate the job market so that all of us stay working, the fact is stability requires management.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
Managing the slow introduction of new technologies is crucial to the stability of jobs when 1 single invention will wipe out the entire oil industry & the millions of oil byproducts we rely so heavily on.That same invention can wipe out all coal & uranium mining,hydrogen,natural gas etc etc etc.The impact to society although good for the planet would destroy our lives the same as a world wide catastrophic meteor impact. This is why we are only allowed slow changes to a better planet
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy i dont really think i can accept that...i think that moving into new technologies would create jobs.. from construction and engineers for the buildings to the facotry workers to make the stuff... i dont see why so many people strive to be millionaires.. sure their needs to be some form of exchange for goods and services but why people are so obsessed with making more then they need idk.. enough to support a family and a vacation once a year should be enough
hardhatg69 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
"moving into new technologies would create jobs"
That's highly debatable. I move appliances for a living. Paid 2 guys to assist me. I bought a lift gate on my truck & an electric stair climbing hand cart & laid off the 2 employees. The lift gate should be in service for 30yrs. The hand cart should be in service for 20yrs before changing out chains & sprockets. I don't think there is enough man hours in the machines to make up for the 2 guys I laid off for 30yrs replaced by machines
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
Have you seen the automobile manufacturing plants today? Robots build & paint our cars & a low paid tech simply watches the computers to make sure they function but the computers are ever growing smarter. Nuclear power plants are smarter because the technology gets smarter. Someday the smart Japanese robot ASIMO will walk the beat & maybe even repair the other computers & machines. Smart robots doing your job, robots building robots, what will you do when that day comes?
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
When I was a boy I watched the transition from a service station attendant go to self serve, you could actually save money at the self serve pumps but with the machines that take credit cards eliminated the need for an attendant, in fact the station could close for the night yet still serve customers, that was amazing. That's good for the owner but not the kid who needed a job as an attendant. So where did that job go? ...to the Japanese circuit board designers.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
Everybody has their obsessions & their addictions, some are addicted to money. It feels good when I am rolling in used appliances & people are loading me up with cash... feels really good & motivates a person to want to not only keep that going or want to corner the market. There are those who become territorial & will beat the shit out of anyone in their territory. Rich people use the courts & false imprisonment to attack their competitors.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
Let's say hypothetically you own oil stock & it supports your lavish lifestyle then one man threatens all that you have. If his invention will force you to be a bum on the streets, your children have no home & the state will take them away to live in a foster home & your wife has left you for a wealthy man like you once were, just exactly what would you do to stop this invention from getting to market?
This is reality & people do protect their stocks & their corporations at all cost
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
Your still young but what if you spent 10-20 yrs going to college for a career, you have loans to pay off & at 48yrs old your life is just starting to get real good, loans paid off, house paid off, money in the bank for your kids college then I come along & I have something that will remove the way you & many others make a living & you can never recover nor have enough life energy to spend another 10-20yrs learning a new trade & all you have to do is take me out. What do you do?
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy well thats really the problem right there isnt it...too many rich fks worried only about themselves..why do the curciut board designers have to be japanese..why not american??to think everything will one day be automated is unlikely..even where we stand now it would only take a few big emps to down the whole country, so not only is it unlikely, its dangerous... and if it ever did go there it would cost far less to produce anything we need to live and people could....cont
hardhatg69 1 year ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy ..focus on learning about tech and work on futher improving that tech and designing new tech....maybe these ideas are impossible,childishly optimistic or just plain naive...but in a pefect world it could and should deff work......but again, sadly, we dont live in a perfect world... but if ur right then no new energy tech will ever see production unless its made to be public knowledge..imagine if tessa had printed his designs and handed them out in mass.may be the only choice
hardhatg69 1 year ago
I would love to get one in my backyard. I do hope people have learned the value of solar after the bp disaster.
Ramshobraja 1 year ago
@Ramshobraja are you kinding...most people have already forgotten BPs disaster.... they still have gas stations open right...there was no boycott..... everyone went back to thier stupid useless pointless lives and forgot all about the rest of the world
hardhatg69 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
The planet is quite resilient in many ways but it can't filter quick enough what we pump into it, but we all contribute every time we start a car or even use public transit, turn on a light which either uses coal or nuclear energy or every time we buy consumer products that contain oil byproducts or anything made in a factory. We all contribute to the poisoning of this planet, as a result the oceans have gone from a high PH to acid making all ocean life weaker, making humans weaker.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@hardhatg69
Nobody will boycott oil, perhaps temporarily but I have to use my truck to haul appliances. If I used horse & buggy a 30 minute pick up could take me most of the day just to get there & back, besides, it's against the law to ride horses on the streets, I checked. Police do it but they are above the law.
We are stuck, we cannot go back, we can only move forward & much of the futuristic advanced technology is being suppressed because the planet still has plenty of Black Gold to sell
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
Cool Really cool !
Multimentalisti 1 year ago
Free Energy???
you had to buy the materials from someone to make the sterling engine. you will need batteries to store it, land to put it on, etc. etc. how is it free? I think you mean renewable resource.
WarGamezzz 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz the word "Free Energy" applies to the device after it is built. If you bought a replacement engine for your car for $5000 & never had to refuel it for your entire life & you installed another engine on your home never paying an energy bill saving you many hundreds of thousands of dollars you wouldn't call that Free Energy but then complain decades from now that you had to buy the damn thing?
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz Renewable resource has a very broad meaning. You could burn wood, plant, hemp alcohol etc but it all needs to be continuously planted, grown, cut with machines that presently burn Diesel, put on Semi-trucks that presently burn Diesel, processed which consumes electricity from coal or nuclear plants etc but Energy that is Free is that which does not require any labor or expenditure to receive the fuel. The Sun runs on it's own for now & it's Free to use.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz A solar panel is a Free Energy device in that once built you will never have to pay for the fuel input. That is the concept of a free energy device. Solar panels have been extremely expensive in the past but the regular size of one array has now been reduced to a size that fits in the palm of your hand yet produces the same amount of current as the larger array because now they utilize ultraviolet rays along with actual light, they work on cloudy days & after dawn.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz Solar advancements never stop, someday they will be sensitive enough to run off of Moon & starlight. They don't have to be as expensive as they are but corporate control & demand may skyrocket the price just like some prescription drugs only cost a penny per tablet yet may sell for $20 per tablet so that is the frustrating situation & since everything must compete with oil then this palm held free energy device will be cheap to manufacture but extremely expensive to buy.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
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@WarGamezzz Often times there are different comprehensions of the term Free Energy. Some think the energy is coming from nowhere, creating itself like in overunity, that defies the present understanding of the laws of physics. The energy does have to come from somewhere. Some devices use the sun, magnets or perhaps various energies that surround all of us that most may not comprehend how or what is being tapped into, then there are the fraudsters.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
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@WarGamezzz We trace solar energy to the sun but how did the sun get filled with so much fuel to burn so long? How lucky we are to have at least one of them. In space there are constant energy explosions. Our solar system is full of energy but where does all of that come from, is the energy created? Do the same laws of physics on earth also apply to space?
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
Hi,
Michael Armani,
Yes, these conversion efficiencies are indeed near world records for converting solar power to do actual work.
mikearmani2 1 year ago
Let me get this right... 30 ft diameter is about 68 M^ 2. 30kw/67 m^2= 0.44 kw/m^2, or 440 watts/m^2. Sun is about 1000-1200 w/m^2, so he is claiming 36-44% efficiency. If it is true that is a world record...
But I have seen stirlings, and NONE get this kind of efficiency. The cycle is not good enough. Hmmm.
seaplaneguy1 2 years ago
correct :D
and folks dont be daunted by this math
its actually quite simple
firedude201234 1 year ago
Where can I buy a stirling engine???
qrrak 2 years ago
Why aren't we exploiting this? Would it not convert excess heat into work? We could cool the planet down if we had enough of these things running and get energy too :) I'm gonna build a big one I know how to get around the lubricating problem but I am not telling lol
Mrpantymelt 2 years ago 2
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hydrogen? why doesn't it explode?
krazeekooladam 2 years ago
Because to get an explosion you need oxygen, hydrogen alone can't burn as like any fuel, and when it burns with oxygen they are transformed in water.
deliquenme 2 years ago 4
good point
krazeekooladam 2 years ago
@deliquenme it can fuse thoough ;)
beastinblack 1 year ago
WOW....
rabidfish02 2 years ago
where can you find plans for making something like this? the only plans i've found so far are for making them out of old cans and other junk. i want to actually machine the parts, but have no idea of what dimensions to use....
NickBK007 2 years ago
this needs to come pu on the market fast and prefurd cheap :) up yours govermant and high cost electricity ^^ this cood save lots of mony
AnobisBloodwing 2 years ago
Google PAINSCOURT about this. This can be up on the radio via Xbox 360 Live.
doctorofghetto 2 years ago
Instead of having the engine turn a flywheel, have it turn a small magnetic generator.
clayjefferson 2 years ago
but a weighted flywheel would turn longer even when the piston wasn't powering it if a simply coaster type system were used. Something like the coaster on a bicycle that allows the rear wheel to spin even when it isn't being powered by the chain.
anooseholay 2 years ago
30kW for the big dish is about 45.7% efficiency.
Calculation:
30 feet diameter is appr. 65.7 m2 (square meters).
That is approximately 65kW solar energy on a clear day (depending on lots of factors, but this is a good starting point).
Efficiency above 30% is extremely good for simple devices. 40..50% is usually achieved with combined cycle, that is gasturbine + steamturbine with
steam generated using wasteheat.
landingmodule 2 years ago
very very good ...would like to get more info on ur projets and see if we could start something in egypt
zeinfeld01 2 years ago 3
if you are doing something in egypt, i would be very interested in participating.
alkholi 2 years ago 2
I guess having that in egypt would get full of sand? Well if you guys are interested I would like to do something like it in Mexico, just sun, no sand millons of homes!
dattoli101 2 years ago
iam with you all the way,iam un egypt at the moment,maybe we could make a huge 40 feet prototype making 40KW to use as desalination unit,maybe turn the desert back into forests.
maxhassouna 2 years ago 6
would u eventually lose some hydrogen from the inside of the sterling engine?
Juands10 2 years ago
yes you do , which is the reason that the orginal stirling engines used air at 1 atm. Building hermedically sealed systems makes it possible for the newest versions to use high pressure hydrogen but even then they need peroidic refilling. High pressure hydrogen gives a lot higher efficiency and pays for itself very quickly .
brown1173 2 years ago
nuclear fusion can be turned on and off like natural gas or oil. you can turn the sun on and off when you need it. you would simply need to re-vamp the current power plants to run with nuclear fusion. there would be no new infrastructure required and hydrrogen is the most abundant element in the universe so runing out isnt going to be a problm. it may not be re-new able per say, but you certainly wouldnt need 50 acrs of these to powr the u.s. and it will work when ever and where ever you need it
defygravity212 2 years ago
this is a cool little thing and the huge version of it can run entire cities (about 50 acres of these could sustain the us indeffinatly) but its not practical. although it is theoretically possible, you would need to build so much new infrastructure, boatloads of massive battaries and new power lines that would be to expensive to maintain. besides, the average lithium ion battery can only be charged and discharged about 100 times before its total garbage. the future is nuclear fusion
defygravity212 2 years ago
could u tell me how that works the instant cooling part.
dadyAplaya 2 years ago
wow
drmassone 2 years ago
They need to fix the waste problem with nuclear power. Nuclear power carries a scare factor, dating back to the 1960's. No matter how effective nuclear power is, until they can get around the waste and upfront costs problem, it'll be a dead duck.
johan28 3 years ago 2
eeeeeehhhhhh.......good point but your also wrong. nuclear power is actually not effitiant at all, it just got so much government funding that that money soaked up (and is still soaking up) the losses. nuclear power obviously needs uranium, but that needs to be enriched for it to be any good. its only about 0.5 percent radioactive and that needs to be brought up to atleast 3% for nuclear power to be taken from it. the problm is that the enrichng process uses so much energy you actually lose som
defygravity212 2 years ago
I really hope this get onto the market! i think that solar is where it is, because people simply don't like wind turbines enough (i like them). they think they're intrusive and what not. this sterling engine idea is awesome though!
commiebobo 3 years ago
"why I named my book" says the person who holds the camera in a interview?
teemuruskeepaa 3 years ago
I know very little about engineering, but it was interesting when he mentioned that he needs a 30-foot diameter dish to produce 30kW. How is this calculated?
kakapu4u 3 years ago
but why would you need 30 kw? for one household you need only 1 k w ,,, i dont know if this value is true but every square meter gives you about 1 KW then you have to subtract all the ineffeicincies , 2-3% to the mirror, about 60-70 % for the sterling, maybe 50% to the generator and i dont know how much percentage to the storage battries before oyu could use it as useful electrical.
shorty40merza 3 years ago
most microwaves need upwards of 1kw, most homes would do with 3-5kw but i would say most homes nowadays need upwards of 5kw
fromtheswan 3 years ago
Yea but you also store energy in batteries, and most homes do not use 5-10kW ALL the time. All though I know we are talking averages, you don't go running your microwave and stove all day long?
MasterTxJ 2 years ago
i have the older twin flywheel version of this exact engine. i used to belt a small dc motor to it to run a fan. but now my engine no longer runs the cylender got all gunked up i think during storage do you know how i could fix this. could i take apart the engine without harming it to thoughly clean it? and is the cyl gas filled? i bought it off a neighbor for $1. so i dont know anything about it. but i think its from the 60's.
1944johndeerel 3 years ago
Most likely not it most like just has air at atmospheric pressure. (14.7 psi at sea level)
The reason the video makes mention of hydrogen is because gases like hydrogen and helium have phenomenal heat exchange qualitys.
Cleaning you engine by taking it apart should not hinder it in any way
jamesbond252525 2 years ago
The only problem with this technology is that it would require more than just the device shown here. You need a heliostat to make the device follow the sun in order for it to operate properly, that's where you main equipment and maintenance costs are going to lie. The sterling engine itself requires very little maintenance at all and often don't even need lubricants. They just do their thing.
nthnlsmmrs 3 years ago
Yes, but without some type of lubricant you run into one of the main foes of efficiency, friction. which in theory might help the hot side of the engine but is still going to lower the efficiency of the power piston.
jamesbond252525 2 years ago
Umm, add lubricant?
Frostlander 2 years ago
so that crude thing, which could be improved to a commercial quality design is about 40% efficient, a leap ahead of any other non electric engine.
raulitech 3 years ago
You're at about double the actual number - 20%. Which would still be 4x what photovoltaic cells are.
razorx71 3 years ago
what a great explanation! we would like to invite you to call in to one of our shows at BTR called energytalk.
Now what if we hooked this up to an air compressor and used the air to power a generator?
vhbeazel 3 years ago
Thats just a advanced solar-cell, not free energy.
B777LR 3 years ago
Solar is free energy. Build the device then it produces free energy after that. Everything costs money to build but what makes it free is that you are not buying fuel then burning it inside the device.
When I refer to free I mean monetarily free, people try to get too deep on that subject like the sun is not free it uses gasses, well thats so stupid because nobody ever sent me a bill in the mail for using the sun to grow my vegetables,all that matters is I dont have to buy fuel for a solar panel
FreeGlobalEnergy 3 years ago
right on.
stoichiometric 3 years ago
me and my friend where argueing over which one was more efficient a solar cell or a sterling engine hooked up with a concave or parabolic mirror. Now I am just going to through this out their. I don't care how I get the energy I only care about whether or not it is a fossil fuel base and if so I won't use it. I just don't care what it is. So this idea works for me. Same as a solar cell. Doesn't matter how you get the energy just so long as it doesn't pollute.
0vrqq 3 years ago
That's a no brainer. He said a 30 foot diameter dish would produce 30 kw power. A 30 kw pv array using 200 watt panels will cover over 1800 square feet.
There's no arguing the facts.
TwowheelinTim 3 years ago
So, like you said, you still have to pay for the equipment to harvest the energy, plus maintenance on that equipment, plus you'll have to replace it every so often, not to mention cost and maintenance of the equipment you're powering. So really, it isn't free at all, it's just "low-cost" energy.
jasontimmer 3 years ago
Still a matter of perspective. If I buy a gasoline generator I have all that maintenance plus the cost of fuel.
Lets say you had a magnetic engine in your car, you paid $2000 for, you drove 80 miles per day for 10yrs before it needed replacement parts. If someone asked, ´Hey is that free energy as you never put fuel in it?´ Would you say ´Nope, I had to pay $2000, its not free at all?´ The term free energy does not apply to the cost of the device but if it requires fuels you pay for
FreeGlobalEnergy 3 years ago
hi sir: where can i buy those engines? i need one in the range of 5- 1000 watts , this is because i am doing experiemnts on solar energy and i need it can you guide me where you obtained that hydrogen sterling engine? All the manufacturreres i contacted didnt answer and the others only seell small sterlings which are not optimized any way but just for show. thank you
shorty40merza 3 years ago
It will never be available, as long as there is oil in the ground or water to convert to hydrogen to sell to the public it will never be allowed on the market. If you watch my Free Global Energy Playlist you will know why from the first 3-4 videos
FreeGlobalEnergy 3 years ago
how many atmospheres is that hydrogen?Id heard the efficient Stirlings had it around 40.What is the efficiency of your Stirling engine?
tomterahedrob 3 years ago
30 foot diameter stirling holds the record at 30% conversion efficiency but since size is related to efficiency that little thing he was holding is likley 2% effiicent on a hot day.
brown1173 2 years ago
You'll have to build your own. That's why people make these videos.
zecnobot 2 years ago
@FreeGlobalEnergy
Okay I am glad you are correcting this statement. Its kind of deceiving to the naive.
Didn't mean to be harsh, just get annoyed at people on youtube making false claims.
I think the biggest challenge here is the storage of the energy for heavy load hours at night.
WarGamezzz 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz instead of batteries there is the possibility of solar panels running a compressor to fill large underground tanks which then at night run a compressed air engine which runs a generator. I have seen the air powered cars & they are very noisy but for a house I suppose the air out from the engine could be piped underground as a suppressor or muffler. I have no specs on this & no idea of the efficiency but it is an interesting idea.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz Other energy storage are capacitors. Capacitors store their energy in an electrostatic field rather than in chemical form. Japanese have been trying to use capacitors in EV's rather than the well known battery types but I haven't checked lately to see if they have accomplished this. Ideally battery storage should be maintenance free, inexpensive & have a very long life. All in good time. All forms of energy technology continue to improve
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
Radioisotope Thermoelectric Generators are nuclear powered heat gen using energy emitted by decay of radioactive isotopes of Plutonium to provide the heat which in turn is used to generate electric power in a thermoelectric generator. the energy is created using the intermediate thermoelectric process the conversion efficiency is only 4%, but the energy density of the radioactive source is 1000s of times greater than Lithium Ion batteries which provides batteries that never need recharging.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz depending on which energy supersedes the other may decide which energy powers the world. Keep in mind that wasteful energy sources creates jobs for the masses & generates more tax $ for Gov. Efficiency cuts jobs, cuts purchasing, cuts tax revenue. With Governments that control these are factors but Toshiba has built a small self contained Breeder Reactor that will run a small city for 40yrs without refueling. Efficient nuclear energy is very likely our future
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz If you study The Breeder Reactor it has an interesting history. Present nuclear plants only utilize 1% of the energy contained in plutonium, but the Breeder reactor utilizes approx 95% & the radioactive waste is only alive for 40-50yrs rather than 1000s of yrs with todays reactors. If all countries used breeder reactors we could power the entire planet for 100yrs re burning all of the past waste without ever having to mine 1 spec of uranium.
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
@WarGamezzz I have listened to physicists who worked on reactors for decades. At certain moments some projects became secret to avoid competitors getting a leg up but once patents were secure the information was published. It's really difficult to do but there are reactors that you can be shut down immediately & there is no radioactivity. That's why I think there could eventually be such a thing as nuclear powered cars some century
FreeGlobalEnergy 1 year ago
Key, you are being ignorant.How can you have the internet at your disposal yet still think such moronic crap.Research Sterling energy systems before throwing out your obviously unintelligent opinions. :P
Why do ignorant people insist on being right.Just go back to your cave.
gs8777 3 years ago
This all sounds great, but in the end it is completely impractical nonsense. None of this will ever actually be applied/see the mass market.
keysersozae 3 years ago
You must be hiding under a rock hu? They are practical and are starting to be used as we speak. Do us all a favor and quit being such a pessimist!
garbizwal 3 years ago
It's the truth. To be honest, our best bet would be a switch to nuclear power plants across the board along with electric cars.
keysersozae 3 years ago
No its not were do you get you info from a crackerjack box? Man youtube realy brings out alot of loosers! Do some reaserch before you post next time they are building these in mass scale for 2009 for cali as we speek. This is the most eficent way of catching solar power we have so far and it is 100% clean not like nuclear that has waste that has a toxic shelf life of 40 000 or more years!
garbizwal 3 years ago
lol...keep fantasizing about your solar pipe dream; we'll see where we are in 5 years.
keysersozae 3 years ago
Considering Obama pledged not to invest in Nuclear technologies and it would take more than a year to build up that kind of infrastructure were he voted out... I highly doubt that nuclear fission is going to play a role in our energy future. Now fusion on the other hand...
alchemistsgarden 3 years ago
I remember him saying in a debate that nuclear energy would play a role in his plan, but he could've just been saying that to get votes. Fusion is impractical because we cannot sustain the reaction in a controlled manner. Eventually, I'm sure, we'll figure out a way, but until then nuclear power is the best and most efficient option for energy production.
keysersozae 3 years ago
google stirling energy systems
owenander 3 years ago
is that engine for sale yet?
enyawix 3 years ago
yeah, could we get an update on this thing, I mean its just a prototype, and I haven't heard anything about it since it was posted here in this video...
OptimusGonzoo 3 years ago
Is there a formula to gauge HP or Torque that can be produce from a sterling engine? Example: Solar collector size to diameter of engine, length of piston chamber, gears, pulleys, and so on....? I'm not an engineer; Just a curious person? Does anyone know of a message board or group that discusses their do's and don'ts in building these machines?
rdmedic71 3 years ago
yeah let me know too. i wanna know if its worth the hope
mojokiss 3 years ago
The million-dollar question is, does it produce enough torque to turn a generator motor? I'm not doubting the technology, it's just that I have yet to see one of these videos actually show one producing usable electricity. I hope they do, because it's a brilliant idea!
joesmoe71 3 years ago
Now THIS is good. Sterling Energy Systems (SES) and Infina are actually manufacturing these. SES is working with Southern Cal utlities to develop large scale plants. Infinia is after the residential/commercial buidling market.
MarkFromHawaii 3 years ago
where do I buy one?
iponuall 3 years ago
My friends grandfather invented this. Google: Umarov Sterling Engine
psshhtmr2 3 years ago
This technology has been around since the early 70's , and made the cover of popular science magazine. It has been suppressed all these years by big oil. This invention has merit, but like all other great inventions for free energy, they get bought up and snuffed out by the fossil fuel industry. The movie "Who killed the electric car" is a prime example!
mechtech2004 3 years ago
i have a window AC, when it runs, it blows hot air out the back straight into the atmosphere. for a long time i have been thinking if you can capture that heat and convert it back to useable energy. maybe the sterling engin can be powered by the hot air of a AC unit, which can then power a generator, and feed the AC unit partially, where making the whole cooling system more efficient, and reduce the amout of heat released into the atmosphere.
dinewalton 3 years ago
There's a German company that uses the waste heat from furnaces to run sterling engines to power generators. The electricity produced is sold back to the electric company.
I don't think the hot air exhaust of an AC unit would contain enough energy to do any useful work though.
Mos6502 3 years ago
what i don't understand, is that, does the sterling engine not nessesarly run off of heat, but it runs off of "heat differential"? so if you put the whole unit in the oven, would it work?
dinewalton 3 years ago
I'm seeing all kinds of "green/free energy" ideas but I have never seen anyone hook one of there contraptions up to a generator and do some real work. It's like UFOs, I've never seen one.
jerktrucker 3 years ago
build one.
KenMacMillan 3 years ago
That's because you haven't been looking. Look up SES Stirling Energy Systems. They are building two huge 300MW - 500 MW solar fields for Southern California Edison using the exact same technology described in the video. President Bush even paid a visit. Concentrated Solar power and the Sterling Engine seem to be really under reported even though its more efficient than solar panels.
Acelib 3 years ago
It's not free. If you were alone in the forest ware would you get the solar reflector? You tube logic.
jerktrucker 3 years ago
Free after set up. Theres no such thing as free energy, if you consider the startup cost. The point is to produce energy that surpasses the startup cost in value.
wallonthefly 3 years ago
I don't believe it can be done.
jerktrucker 3 years ago
1 unit can power 10 homes for 25 k,so you figure thats 10 Americans with 1 years worth of a average tax return then there energy free, off the grid.This will only work if we all contribute information and awareness,truly left up to each and every one of us.See but we are all to quick to discount out own impact,this whole concept can move as fast as a thought,so whats your thought, beneficial or non-beneficial? PAIN
PAINSCOURT 3 years ago
Why not? Its just tin foil a dish and a small motor. The start up cost (manufacturing) will be exceeded by the energy produced (actually, refined would be the better term) over its lifespan.
The sun is giving it away for free. Whats the problem?
wallonthefly 2 years ago
You may note, they're claiming free "energy" not free materials or construction.
Obviously it's going to cost money to build and maintain. But you don't have to pay for sunlight - the energy it runs off of.
Mos6502 3 years ago
1 unit can power 10 homes for 25 k,so you figure thats 10 Americans with 1 years worth of a average tax return then there energy free, off the grid.This will only work if we all contribute information and awareness,truly left up to each and every one of us.See but we are all to quick to discount out own impact,this whole concept can move as fast as a thought,so whats your thought, beneficial or non-beneficial? PAIN
PAINSCOURT 3 years ago
I'm guessing your talking about a larger version... didn't he say that this produces 30kw a day which is the same as the average use of an American home? I think that lots of smaller units would be safer and more efficient... no energy transport, no loss, no dependency on a central system...
wallonthefly 3 years ago
search "Concentratore solare da parabola satellitare" an experiment of italian student in 2006.
vqdset 3 years ago
I wonder if that "Tiny, but mighty" engine from Angel Labs could be adapted. They are claiming a 60% efficiency compared to 20% of most engines. The eight pistons travel in a donut shaped piston. They are also developing pumps and compressors.
watch?v=zp-PJXIjCsU
blogologist 3 years ago
My neighbor had one of these (exact same design).
oisiaa 3 years ago
where can I get a set of stirling engine like that? Or the plan to build one? Can anyone tell me please. Thank you.
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nirvanabuilder 3 years ago
If you wanted to catch the heat from the sun wouldent it be better to use a magnafying glass to consetrate it better? just an idea!
joenpamtorres 3 years ago
i am probably wrong, but i thought they were using the idea of a parabola to concentrate the rays.
trumpet12345 3 years ago
It's been said that a Stirling engine is impractical as you can't really control power output as you can with a combustion engine--stepping on the gas increases power output, where the power output of a Sterling engine is variable. The way around that is simple. You don't use the Sterling engine as your primary power source, you use it to charge your primary power source, one where power output CAN be controlled--by hooking it up to a battery. Endless electrical power, for next to nothing.
creepsomber 3 years ago
If I wanted to read I would be setting in my easy chair with a book ! I'm watching videos so I can learn how to do stuff: so how do I build this dish thing and save the earth from all my pollution ?!?!?!?!?!?!? Who gave it a world record? Where is their web site and instruction video ????????
67Cowboy 3 years ago
I have one more place you can check; It is the web site of the producer of the SEGWAY (try SEGWAY on any search engine or the inventor DEAN KAMEN). He uses one of those STIRLING engine to run is house/complex somewhere in the states (I think). He is one of many!
JAKCRIP 3 years ago
Where is the website with the instructions, so I can build it and quit polluting the earth ? Or is that not what your ultimate goal is ?
67Cowboy 3 years ago
Try e-bay with the words; STIRLING ENGINE
JAKCRIP 3 years ago
how much it cost and what you can do wih it how much electricity it can produce and how to store it
share2go 3 years ago
Yes! this principle really works out pretty good! You can find some of them machines on e-bay that work with minimal temp. difference (from your hand!; gadgets). They do use many different gasses (like air). It comes from the 19th century and it can really produce good (almost free) energy output. The biggest working machine I saw (only in picture) dated back from the 1843 and produced 3 kw of energy and that was from 3 degree diff. in temp. but the machine was huge (Size of a modern bus. ).
JAKCRIP 3 years ago
Post a video, where do we see the patent, website, or instructions ?
67Cowboy 3 years ago
I just noticed the heading of the vid; it should be STIRLING ENGINE (try this in any surch engine): there are so many sites you will be reading/watching for days. The latest I have seen was 3-5 days ago from DISCOVERY chanel from a company named SES, It uses big mirors with huge stirling engines, 6 apparatus to run a military base in south usa. Just type it in Youtube. STIRLING ENGINE.
JAKCRIP 3 years ago
Wow I can't believe I've never thought of a solar-powered sterling! That's a great idea. The world's record for most efficient solar system? I certainly hope that gets fully developed.
leitermann 3 years ago
Great concept, but at present, very impractical; how much torque do you think that thing generates... hardly any. I can only imagine the size of the parabola that would be needed to generate enough torque to power something like a refrigerator.
jkcwebs 3 years ago
jkcwebs, Starting at 3:03 he says 30 foot diameter dish (9 meter) can produce 30 KW of electric power on sunny day.
I'm the guy who likes to shoot down the crackpots and scammers with their perpetual motion machines and voodoo physics. But this is real, and it could be practical. Hydrogen under pressure has problems, but those are technical hurdles. Helium works too as do other gases. It's just that from a thermodynamic viewpoint hydrogen is really good.
ScottieDM 3 years ago 2
This is true. I did the math. 30' diameter = 760 square feet. The power from the sun is 130 watts per square foot in a sunny area. That gives you about 100 KW for that diameter. Sterling engine efficiencies are limited to about 30% so that's 30 KW.
isaacopedal 3 years ago
You misspelled "stirling". The inventor of the engine was Rev. Robert Stirling, spelled with an 'i'.
Berkana 4 years ago 3
wow, this is awesome, keep us informed guys, also could you clarify the efficiency here? some numbers or spreadsheet would be much appreciated and link to your website pls..
atlanticus 4 years ago
Monocrystaline Si solar cells run about 15 to 20% efficient. Stirling engine uses the Carnot cycle to convert heat to mechanical energy. The theoretical max efficiency of Carnot cycle for 1300 Kelvins hot & 300 Kelvins cold would be 77%. Of course the mechanics of the Stirling engine, inefficiencies of heat transfer, working gas, and other losses would drag that down. I don't know how to calculate those, but if we guess 60% then the figure of 3 or 4 times better fits.
Wiki Stirling & Carnot
ScottieDM 3 years ago
hygrogen is a good coolant i use it on my high power transformers nice post wow that thing is running!
aflacduky 4 years ago
thats very efficient... but I got a question for you... What about the night ??? jaja the electricity would need to be storaged
edgarinv 4 years ago
actually Sterling engines run on any difference in temperature (as long as its big enough) so you might be able to use it at night, but you would have to stick one heat source in the ground (cause it's always a certain temperature; i think like, 50 something degrees) and the other cold source in the air (cause it gets cold at night.
LeviMan2001 4 years ago
And you could heat water ore some material and heat-isolate it as good as poslible, and then use that heat at night
damiyanvx 3 years ago
how much for one to power a genset to power my house ??
warmfreeze 4 years ago
I will get back to you on that once viewed.Whole thing is over 7 hours.plus the demonstration DVD. The metro in the background has a carbon fiber 5k psi tank for "H" and runs on that or 5-7% 'H' to gasoline or anything else that burns.Also runs on Turpines,which are waste matter mainly of citrus turned into a fuel via destructive distillation.The car can run on very poor octane gasoline,or moonshine with the 5-7% 'H'!
FullspeedorNothin 4 years ago
By the way Roid, I wasn't trying to sound like an ass,I am just wanting to learn more as I hope everyone else here is.I dont expect anyone to take the word of someone they know nothing about,but I encourage you to look at some of his research.I have the DVD with this on it,andit is only a fragment of what is mentioned as the topic is converting ICEs to run on "H" cheap,also multifuels.Like,$25 cheap.
FullspeedorNothin 4 years ago
not an ass at all, i greatly appreciate the discussion. Don't get me wrong, i think Stirlings are AWESOME (for the same reasons chaoszen said above). But they don't produce the efficiencies that Roy here is claiming - i'd like someone to prove me wrong i really would.
Do you know Roy's full name?
roidroid 4 years ago
Yes, it is Roy McCallaster and you can find him at knowledgepublications dotcom.That is assuming he is still alive, the guy in fiming is pretty damn smart as well,was an engineer for chrysler for 10 yrs.I agree with you,I look into as many types of energy I can.The DVDs are a touch expensive,bbut well laid out..I have the 3 that came with the MultiFueled engine pack.2 are classroom electrochemistry I havent watched yet,but it says on the contents myths and truths of H2 stirlings.
FullspeedorNothin 4 years ago
that "myths and truths of H2 stirlings" chapter might be worth uploading ;)
The H2 stirling in this video really caught my eye, i eventually tracked it down to STIRLINGSHOP DOT DE (if anyone's interested)
roidroid 4 years ago
oh wait, on closer inspection i don't think that's the same one
roidroid 4 years ago
I cant seem to pull up my favorites or send a message to you directly on this pc, mabee I need IE 6 or something, but Im on dialup..I could copy..when I get the blank disks if interested.Unemployed at the moment so not at the top of the list,but glad to share.I bought them for like $100,which seemed absurd,but I was ignorant and wanted more truth before building something that would cost more and end up a paperweight..glad I did.
FullspeedorNothin 4 years ago
nah it's ok. given the bad first impression i'm not particularly confident he knows what he's talking about unfortunately, i wouldn't pay for the dvd or want you to goto any trouble.
when/if you end up watching that chapter, i'm interested if you want to tell me about it (hope your PC can send messages by then)
roidroid 4 years ago
haven't seen the whole dvd set, but the hydrogen engine fundamentals vid is on youtube in 10 bits. very worthwhile. the series is in my favourites and playlists. watch it if you have any interest in hydrogen as a fuel.
sceptic33 4 years ago
Looks like a dutch hobby motor I have seen.
441rider 4 years ago
The photovoltaic vs solar-sterling debate has more to do with cost of production in making each and what can be done with a given amount of surface area. In this regaurd, the advancement of photovoltaic materials keeps it a close race, but I still prefer the sterling method as it's ease of construction and availability of materials is still far more easily available to the average person.
chaoszen 4 years ago
i want one please mas produse
PeterPAM7 4 years ago