Is This Really What You Voted For?

[DecepticonLeader]

As long as we nail the republicans i don't care what the democrats do to show the stupidity of this war. Fire for effect.

[MrPatriotic]

Great video. :-D

[yooAdrian]

This Marine is so dam tired of idiots with no minds for themselves. Generals are not to be used by political parties or to push an agenda idiots. My fellow dead marines would have send money to move on because you people in the states are to stupid to see the truth.

[mommynation]

You are atacking a man who is serving his country, a man who is defending America. Shame, Shame, Shame!

[Whoo69]

It was quite awkward being on the mailing list for MoveOn. These people just did not understand the concept of free speech! Everyday I'd get some stupid-ass email about how "this Congressman said something sexist" or "this guy said something racist and homophobic" and they'd say "tell CBS or ABC" or whoever to "apologize" or retract their statements or something. It was insane! I couldn't take their bs anymore so I unsubscribed.

[Rangerx122]

Prove it. Number one prove that the war is a fraud. The war in Iraq serves 2 purposes, 1 created a Battle field that drew all the terrorist groups attentions. 2 served to show others who would house fund and support terrorism that they could be next. How bout this instead of sitting there listening to your liberal media news shows how bout you look at the conservative ones two.

[XTCinmee]

The war on terror is a fraud and is the war on the american peoples rights!

[markslord3]

No, the Democrats arent ALL owned by Moveon any more than the Republicans arent ALL owned by Halliburton. In both cases, these are minorities, though we should be troubled by both extremes, be they corporate stooges or naive isolationists.

[MooseOfReason]

"Is this war making us safer?"

Petraeus: "Sir, I don't know, actually."

The three reasons we went there were lies. And the one reason we're staying (to get Iraq on our side against the idiotic "War on Terror") just got proved false.

MoveOn doesn't own anyone. Petraeus did betray us.

[ReuWil]

What were the "lies"? That Saddam was a sponsor of terrorism? Proven fact. That Saddam's regime was a brutal dictatorship? Proven fact. That Saddam was a threat with weapons of mass destruction?  Also a proven fact by the reports that he had active programs and planned on reconstituting them (but no found stockpiles as indicated). That makes him no less dangerous. Even so, that doesn't mean the war is going well, or that it was worth going in to begin with - those are separate arguments.

[ReuWil]

And Petraeus is risking his own life, and his own son is also fighting over there - so your comment that he "did betray us" is dishonest, completely lacking in reason, and quite frankly, evil.

[joecitizan]

I have been called 'Anti-America' because of my views and beliefs. Ok, so be it then. Here is a list of what has been called Anti-American and what my response to those charges are.

[carlannorma06]

You can say what you say because of the freedoms we have because of what a soldier has done for all of us. If you dont like living here.....move somewhere else!

[joecitizan]

I'm a PROUDLY Anti-America U.S. born Citizen because: I believe in Due Process of the Law.

I'm a PROUDLY Anti-America U.S. born Citizen because: I do not believe in Torture.

I'm a PROUDLY Anti-America U.S. born Citizen because: I believe that like it or not Freedom in the United States of America is an Illusion.

[veriteez]

General Georges Sadas.

[cjboog11]

Is that the best you can do?

[copcorona]

I support the troops!

That is why I support a party that has sent them all to die.

I support a party that has wrecked the armed forces, the economy, and America's reputation around the world.

[joecitizan]

Actually mate it was the Military Industrial Complex and not any 1 person or party that did this to us. JFK and others have been warning us for years but we bought into the media. Believing them to be true and respectful. They sold out as well. This Government is CORRUPT from President down to Mayor. And the Republicant's are as responsible for this country's civil liberty's as is the Defeatocrats.

[ntiondam]

hey the armed forces are better off then they were in the hands of bill clinton who made our military smaller. also our economy is raging right now how can you not see it interest rates are crazy lows and the stock market is hitting new record highs almost every day. why is all this happening? because of the tax cuts! give more money back to the people the more they will spend and the stronger the economy will be.

[ladalang]

Why make this a party thing. General BeTrayUs was exposed, Why do Dems and Republicans have such a problem with truth?

[custerdivision]

right on. Democrats are traitors

[auggerjaws]

Why Do Republicans seem stupid to me. I love America and I hate what they have done to America and the Democrats have just stood by.

[rixmix76]

On October 10, 2002 Hillary Clinton said, "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock,. his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists including Al-Qaeda members. It is clear, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare..."

[openbrains]

10/10/02 -9/11/07- We have learned a lot in 5 years. Some say 1.2 million Iraqis have been killed. We are not at war with Iraq, like we were at war with Germany in WW2. We MUST come up with another strategy. If internal peace in Iraq is our goal, we should help create a government where all sides have a forum to talk, as opposed to the US-Iraqi government.

[fritzritz]

Petraeus DID betray his country....just like Colin Powell.

[jliira]

I think Colin Powell was used...

The infamous WMD "evidence" he presented at the UN destroyed his career. He is ashamed of it.

[montanainsurgeant]

democrat/ Repub..they are the same.... General Betray Us is a TRAITOR and should be hung alongside Bush/Rumsfeld/Cheney and the rest who lied to attack another nation.

WAR CRIMINALS ALL OF THEM.

[3theThird]

General Powell betrayed us. The anthrax he threateningly waved came from our own labs - not terrorists. The cartoons he used were just that - cartoons. The photos of those dangerous bio-chem mobile labs were simply photos of farm equipment. All designed to manipulate you.

Perhaps someone at MoveOn didn't want to see another Powell presentation and dared to ask the question: Is this General going to betray us too?

[geekskurge]

Yes, I did vote for people who support the first amendment.

[toweme]

Let's ask the obvious question. Are you better off today than eight years ago? I can respond with a resounding "NO". Let's talk about what matters. The Republican party has run this country into the ground. Now we need a good Democrat to put it right again.

[rubberbandgirl1]

You sheeple who still or ever did believe the good ol boys' lies are still amazing me. I cannot believe how stupid so many people are. Wake up and smell the coffee burning. You probably still believe that 9-11 had something to do with us going to war even though the idiots in the White House have admitted those lies.

[rixmix76]

On September 27th, 2002 Senator Ted (I can't swim) Kennedy said, "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."

Bill Clinton said on February 17th, 1998, "If Saddam rejects peace, and we have to use force, our purpose is clear: We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."

[openbrains]

Bush has said without question, that Iraq had no WMD's. We thought wrong, and now it has been corrected. Why do people quote 5-10 year old quotes.

And now it is time to re-evaluate how to bring this internal conflict to a successful conclusion. And its not only by BOMBING AND SHOOTING UP.We have devastated Iraq. It reminds me of killing a fly in a kitchen with a repeater rifle. You may kill the fly, but you also destroyed the hosue.

[jemenfiche]

"If you voted Democrat, is this what you voted for?"

Yes. Troops home now. A shill is a shill, whether he's wearing a uniform or not.

Why is congress wasting time condemning its critics, instead of supporting the troops and bringing them home?

[sfodeeps]

Hmmm... love the "Two Seats" graphic at the end. This show us what most of our politicians are really about... not values, not principles, just POWER. If only the Republicans could get their "Two Seats" back, everything would be great. WAKE UP, PEOPLE! Let's vote for some candidates who will bring an end to this ridiculous partisanship and polarization! It's not about winning or losing elections, it's about our lives and our country!!! And things are not going very well right now!!!

[ymmudu]

Wake up! Do you notice that many of our Military leaders(including Petraeus' boss Adm. Fallon) also have differences with the civilian leadership's Iraq policy? Do you know that many of the great Conservative minds, including Pat Buchanan think that invading Iraq may be the USA's worst strategic blunder ever? Don't you understand that President Bush can no longer be given the benefit of the doubt & must be questioned? Hating Move on serves no purpose.

[ajw17]

Democrats shouldn't condemn MoveOn's ad considering they are not technically affiliated with the organization. No matter how the right wingers spin it, the truth is that Petraeus is working in the interests of the Bush Administration.

[medlock01]

What corporate interests are those mango?

You do know Haliburton got no-bids under Clinton during Kosovo? (I don't remember Milosevic having WMDs or a bunch of conspiracy nuts mouthing off this stuff in the 90s. )

You do know we get less than 20% of our oil from the MidEast?

No of course you don't. You are still living in a soap opera which bears no resemblance to reality.

[chasmcrown]

Democrats are snakes!!!

They all wanted to invade Iraq back in the 1990's when Clinton was president. They voted for the Iraq war and now act like it was all the republicans that made it to war alone without them

watch?v=Bu4jjkCmXO8

[rubberbandgirl1]

It started before Clinton. Watch "Why We Fight". You can rent it at blockbuster.

[mangokitty]

Funny how the Republicans get their panties in a wad over an ad, but hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis slaughtered for their corporate interests is perfectly acceptable to them. Republicans are sick, sick, sick.

[jrwigand]

Don't blame me. I voted GOP.

[450xhonda]

Move On = Clinton INC

[Rheinhard]

Funny, I seem to have missed all the agonizing and pearl-clutching about "slander of military men" when it was Joh Kerry's service, Generals Batiste or Zinni, or Jon Soltz of Vote Vets who are regularly called traitors, appeasers, objectively-pro-Saddam, Max Cleland morphed into Osama bin Laden, etc etc. I guess, as usual, attacking servicemembers' views is only bad when Democrats do it. Also: learn to use a video editor! You left 25 seconds of black on the end!

[wildwilly1111]

Rheinhard, you're not really surprised, are you? Heck, the repubs even swift-boated *McCain* in 2000.

[Whoo69]

Just how many "Senate Democrats" refused out of all the Dems in the Senate? A few that were actually asked? What bullshit! Another bogus ad hominem attack by the worst smear artists in the country.

[lasseviren47]

The lefties commenting on this video are clueless. They need to do some serious reading.

[bach1944]

This video is an non-answer.

I have never contributed to political parties but am going to make a contribution to move on. I think they will be recognized as patriots in the future.

Cheney should resign and bring his puppet with him!

[thejugg420]

Look at all the whiny little liberals. That man risks his life everyday for you and you call him a traitor? I know how you guys care what the world thinks of us but I dont. If you wanna call Bush a bully or whatever, go ahead. Im willing to kill as many terrorist as it takes to make sure my future family is safe and even to make sure you sissies can spout your little waa waa ranst.

[viewer6002]

This whiny little liberal calls this guy a traitor because I do care what my country has been conned into doing by the lying bastards (uniformed or not) backing the neoconartist nutcases in DC who will never bring the troops home unless they are forced to (way too much money in it for them to worry about a few thousand dead GIs).

Talk to Betrayus' boss - he works side by side with him and knows him best. He didn't call Betrayus an "Ass-kissing little chicken-shit" for no reason.

[medlock01]

Xion you are a moron of the first degree.

Since we have been there rougly 1500 days, that would mean 650 Iraqis would have to be killed *daily*.

Sheep like yourself are so ready to believe anything bad about our military or country aren't you?

Republicans make plenty of blunders but blaming your military and leaders to attempt political hit-jobs is beyond partisanship. Petraeus has an impeccable record and doesn't deserve the whack jobs at moveon attacking him.

[themango90]

Boring. One star.

[gracedolphin]

Anyone who would focus on MoveOn instead of the Federal Reserve and corporate interests is clearly misinformed.

[LTCJeffWhite]

Yeah - you have to focus on the Fed or corporations, or you are just plain ignorant...

HUH?

Talk about an ad hominem, ref herring attack...

Totally mindless.

[XionXXXX]

Its not a war, its an Iraqi Massacre. Almost 1,000,000 iraqis have died since 2003. They've been brainwashing the American people with too many lies about the truth of the situation. If we don't do something about it soon we're going to lose our dignity and place in this world, we're making a bad name for ourselves and America because of these corrupt government leaders in office.

[LTCJeffWhite]

This is such a lie.

You've been there?

HOW and WHEN did America kill anything like a percentage of this outrageous total?

On behalf of the United States, I enter a plea of NOT GUILTY to the crimes specified.

I accuse the accuser of lying, and propaganda - and of being accomplice to terrorists and murderers, an accessory after the fact.

[planetery]

The number was false, but the sentiment is valid.

Not Guilty, huh? Like OJ was not guilty?

"I was just following orders" was not an acceptable excuse at Nuremburg, why should it be here?

[TheDogness]

Only 1 million? If you are going to cite unsourced numbers, why stop there? Why not 5 million? Or 10 million? Hell, go for the whole enchilada and say 1 BILLION!!

[450xhonda]

XionXXXX And thats a bad thing?

[iamtherobot]

Yay Move On!!!!

[doobtribe]

Pointing the finger at the "other" doesn't change/hide "your" own incompetence, stupidity, hipocrisy, misleading/scams and the bankruptcy off the american people.

[cajunbo]

does it really suprise any one they would do this

[EchelonMonitor]

Bush is following orders, and the orders are, "Stay in Iraq at all costs!"

The main reasons are to protect Israel, control the oil, and keep the huge profits flowing from defense and reconstruction contracts.

There are 14 permanent bases in Iraq, including 6 mega-bases with everything from fitness centers to Pizza Huts.

THEY WILL NEVER AGREE TO BRINGING THE TROOPS HOME!!!

[mrjonnewman]

Boo Hoo!

GOPers are always accusing Democrats of being traitors!

Why can't you take your own medicine?

[Jimthemaverick]

NO GOP person has ever accused a General who has put his life on the line for his country of Betrayal. They may accuse YOU of that but NEVER a General of the stature of General Petraeus. Democrats voted UNANIMOUSLY to approve Petraeus .. Because he does NOT give you what you want he is a "Traitor"???

Cowards all of you and shame on you.

[450xhonda]

And there right.

[Spikeyue]

Kerry wasn't a general but he did put his life on the line for his country, and was promptly accused of betrayal by a draft dodger. Its hilarious how you can support the military with such patriotic words and then ignore the fact that your messiah is a coward.

[patsagainstrats]

To be fair, some Democrats(Pelosi) did condemn the moveon ad, just not the ones running for president.

[bxblox]

I can quote "anonymous" (read: fake) senators too.

[BUDDAWG2004]

dems cant stand up to move on, whats going to happen if they have to face enemies with guns?

[Oryxtoo]

You think you guys could come up with anymore lame excuses for your stupidity?

Wait....let me think about that one....

Ye. You will. Condoning stupidity and evil is what you people do. So I wouldn't expect anything less of you.

[bnelson45]

The video makes a very good point.

[julianhpike]

lame.

[RBLA818]

Bush finally found a General who would lie when others wouldn't.

"The President is holding our Soldiers hostage to his ego." - Major Gen. Paul Eaton. (Former Iraq War Commander)

"The President vetoed our troops and the American people. His stubborn commitment to a failed strategy in Iraq is incomprehensible." - Major Gen. John Batiste. 2nd Highest Ranking Military Official in Iraq

"US Can't Win Iraq War Because Most Iraqis Oppose US Troops"

- Lt. Gen. Robert Gard