Yeah alright, go ahead and ingnore my idea asshole.. I like it but I just wish I could play this sport with more players fighting similtenously instead of 1 vs 1 a chance where you can have a team of fencers on your side vsing another team of fencing, CAN'T A MAN DREAM, DAMN IT I WANT THIS IDEA TO HAPPEN! you don't have to be an asshole!!
I know, you can't even step sideways in this sport, you can't even move in any direction for that matter, and you can't even have 10 vs 10 playing at the same time instead of 1 vs 1..
The thing I dislike about fencing is that every point is just one attack and then it's done, they break up and start over. There is no actual duelling in my opinion.
@JNovak92 To be fair, if one was fighting with actual swords I don't think they'd be able to carry one after being pierced in the chest by a strong lunge. That's for foil anyway, epee to the leg or sabre to the face would probably be just as painful.
I've only just noticed how similar the fencing/kendo and paintball/airsoft rivalries are. They're all combat sports, fencing and paintball are more well known, and it's known when someone's hit, but can lack realism, kendo and airsoft are more realistic, but rely on people's honesty on being hit.
All sports have people telling them to get the "real weapons".
And, lastly, fencing/kendo seem to get annoying anime comments, while paintball/airsoft have CoD comments.
@FelixFelisis "swordfighting" is a theatrical lie put on to entertain the masses. Try any swordfighting move you've seen on TV or in the movies and you'll get a limb or your head hacked off pretty fast. Most duels looked something like fencing but with blades intended to kill or wound people, and greater care for defense (since getting touched on back then meant bleeding, infection, and then death).
Can everybody shut up? how an argument broke out over the sport of fencing is beyond me, but if anything could start one its a utube comment section, ive been fencing for 6 years and i am going to the junior olympics, anyone else who can say that your welcome to keep on arguing, retards
I don't really get what fencing's about, I thought it was relatively simple with the first strike being the winner but most of the bouts on this video is just quick stabs then they both run off waving their fists - they do both think they've won 90% of the time or what?
And can't they save celebrating for after? It's like laughing in an opponent's face, it just makes them all look arrogant rather than real sportsmen and women...
@ChainsawGutsFuck Thevideo doesnt really tell the whole story, its just cutting to the most 'exciting bits'. first to 15 hits in a 9 minute bout.Its 5 PM and they have been fencing since 9AM, round after round. Fencing is mentally exhausting. The screaming is similar to womens grunting in tennis. It releases the boldily tension and focuses the mind on the nextr hit. Generally they dont do it in the Poole rounds, but as fatigue sets in the DE's some fencers have to maintain focus and relaxation.
@ChainsawGutsFuck Eppeists 4 example generally dont scream, they have to keep their cool as its less about hits than making mistakes. Sabreurs which are more visceral,cannot help from screaming (if only to release the pain from a particulary heavy cut so as to focus on the next hit) Foillists sometimes scream as a means of mentally reinforcing their self belief as the tactics become more and more complex. You salute. You shake hands. But on the piste your opponent is never your friend.
@chikenadobo Its been a olympic sport since the start. Infact its one of the six last remaining original olympic events. The creator of the modern olympics Baron de Coubertin was a fencer himself. It has more tradition of being olympic than the mutitude of other events on the calender.
This is just silly. What once was a very noble and artistic sport with incredible technique has devolved into who has lunge faster. It's pathetic and silly.
Fencing is not what it used to be, but still hiding behind it's former reputation as something great and proud.
@Stan4ik75 That made absolutely no sense as an analogy. In the future, please refrain from trying to use logic, yours or others. You simply lack the ability to handle it.
This was a great moment for us in Athens. I had the priveledge to see this exact competition in person! I love this sport...also a great way to stay in shape!
Good thing those weren't sharp or anything and whats with that falling over crap. I don't understand how olympic fencers can actually enjoy lunging themselves onto their opponents blades. It truly makes no sense to me. Also whats with the chicken arm at 1:40. Were these people taught no form or what? This looks less like a sport of skill and more like a game of chance. I know a lot of people enjoy this but the is not fencing anymore as it used to be.
@DSCFencing Dude, I'd suggest, that you'd familiarize yourself with the subject before commenting on it. If something does not make sense, but it's being done over and over again, on the highest level, like the final round of the 04 Games, then there must be some logic to it. FYI: the girl with the "chicken arm" is Sylwia Gruchala (POL) . Two time World Champion and a bronze medalist in Athens. I'm sure that with your spectacular form, you'll score exactly ZERO touches against her ;)
Some fencers just look terrible. But they can score the point, and thats what really counts. And then you have some fencers who display beautiful form, but they cant score.
It's only boring because it's one vs one fighting, If there were like a 100 swordsman and if it were to be a 50 vs 50 battle that would be interesting in a lot of ways but unfortunately, Besides, I like the sword action I thinks it's the best kind of movement in the world.
The goal of fencing swords is to draw blood. In this case, to simply score a point. I personally feel uncomfortable with a flimsy sword. But you get more speed, and flexibility from a lighter blade than you do with a broadsword. As for why there are all these clashes. Its because they are all relatively equal fencers. The differences only being their percentages to score against one another.
@pureintellectual Because if they were stiff the protective equipment wouldnt stand a chance to protect the athletes. In the early 1980's one of those 'flimsy weapons' went through Vladmir Smirnov head in the wourld championships when the foible (bendy bit) snapped off leaving just the blunt 3/4 of the sword. Also you dont swing a fencing sword. You thrust or you cut. Swinging is the first thing begginers get drilled out of.
@pureintellectual Ah in fencing we parry, that is to say we redirect the attack off the target area rather than insisting in resisting the blow. But in blocking or parrying you should use the forte of the blade, that is to say the first 1/3 of the sword closest to the guard. This is always stiff and never flexible. The last 2/3rds of the blade on ANY swords have some degree of flexibility. This is more in fencing for safety AND also for durability. Flexible blades last longer than stiff ones.
Boxing is a different animal. It does have the footwork element such as fencing, although using different sets. Boxing stresses stopping power. So its not enough that you hit the opponent, but your opponent must be stopped because of it. Fencing focuses on fast footwork and deep extensions, where if the touch was performed without the blade, there would have been very little stopping power. Physical strength isnt stressed in fencing because the blade would easily puncture an opponent.
all combat sports are similar, it's all about controlled aggression, physical fitness and training. that's true from wrestling and jiu jitsu to boxing and karate
I want to see it with some real rapiers. That would really crank up the volume. No parries in this sissy shit with little car antanae for a weapon. How gay.
@LRWarrior They bend because if they didnt flex the sport would be too dangerous. In 1982 World Championships Matteus Behr accidently killed Vladmir Smirnov when his blade broke and the broken stiff end went through the mask and through the russian's head. Bear in mind that foil was just training weapon for the deadly smallsword which historically replaced the rapier precisely because the rapier could not parry and riposte in two beats. I would take a smallsword over a rapier anyday.
I might be going off a bit here but I think fencing is very similar to boxing. Both are described as "physical chess matches" in which strategy and peak physical condition is needed. Yes one has a sword and the other is more 'brutish' but actually quite alike. Strategy's for hitting an opponent, attacking first whilst watching out for counters (riposte's or parries in fencing im not sure?). But either way they are both great mental sports.
Yea I do boxing but not done fencing, looks great tho!
@HonourableFighter1 I'm a martial artist in Jeet Kune Do which uses a lot of Pununtukan (sorry if i've misspelt it) which is a chinese style of boxing/street combat. I think the main difference is that fencing uses 1 attacking limb (the sword/weapon) as opposed to 2 in boxing (both hands) or, as i'm more used to 9 (both feet, knees hands, elbows and forehead). The restriction of striking limbs in fencing, as i have found, actually enhances the tactical thinking of the game. you have to calculate
@HonourableFighter1 BRO! I thought the same thing when I first started, granted boxing is taught at my gym where I fence. Totally agree with you though
Thanks to all replies, loving the people here who can enjoy and respect the similarities of sports and enjoy everything about them.
@Shanniquitie: Guess you haven't tried boxing mate. It's a heck of a lot more mental (as well as all martial arts) than people would assume. Also simply statiung that fencing is for 'men' is quite a narrow-minded opinion, and you shouldn't stereotype sports as they are all good for different people. Kindly justify your opinion or don't say anything :)
@HonourableFighter1 holy shit, a well thought out, meaningful, coherent, comment actually pertaining to the material in the comment it is replying to. good for you :)
@piemuffinly Haha why thankyou :). And a well-written response to you too! :). I don't want a stereotypical caps lock youtube flame war occurring, so I try using all my literary skill in stating my opinion XP.
Then again....... HOLEHSHIIII >9000!!!!!! >:O. I WAHZ TOTALI RIGHT AND YOU ARE A LITLE S$%T FOR NOT HAFIN MAI OPINYUN!!!
I have great respect for martial artists and those with educated opinions on topics, but have little patience for those who speak badly of something without trying it.
@HonourableFighter1 boxing involves two men pounding each other. fencing has removed all but the ACCIDENTAL infliction of violence - boxing involves trauma as part of the "fun". More people die, or suffer brain damage and physical damage, during a boxing match than they ever could during a bout of fencing. it's a blood sport, and should be banned.
@Shanniquitie Thankyou for replying with a 'good' comment :). It seems we have a difference of opinion, which is fine, I'll just list my reasons. Amateur boxing is the more 'sportlike' form of boxing, with protection and greater rules, removing the more 'bloodlike' element. True some still die, but generally through accident and VERY rarely (less than a handful in last decade?). I believe that it isn't a bloodsport per se, but I can see where you are coming from, thus respect your opinion :).
@Shanniquitie Sorry to reply again but in pro boxing or the 'bloodier' and more popular side of boxing, the people train to go to their limits, and test themselves physically and mentally against another, with limitations. The regulation of drugs whilst not strict I believe is good enough to stop almost all boxers (not Mosley :P) taking drugs and other illegal actions. Hence I believe it is a well regulated sport that should be allowed as it is a physical contest between men, not animals.
@HonourableFighter1 A lot of boxing in its eraly days especially in England, specifically when it was called 'pugilism' was taught by fencing masters, right down from the extention from the elbow jabs and the footwork. Eventually the two disciplines diverged, the similarity nowadays I think is in the footwork. Amir Khan and many outfighters and flyweights look similar to fencers, though heavyweight boxing with its reliance on hooks & crosses bears less resemblance. Distance and footwork is key.
James Figg that was the first to advertise the teaching of pugilism and to provide exhibitions of skill in its use. He was acknowledged as a master of the cudgel, sword, and staff as well as pugilism. His calling card advertised his academy and billed him as a "Master of the Noble Science of Defence." It pictured him holding a single-stick and offered instruction in "use of the small backsword and quarterstaff."
Many popular champions opened boxing clubs. Gentleman Jackson became the champion in 1795 and opened a club in London and became very popular with a certain set of the aristocratic gentlemen. He was friendly with Henry Angelo, who had an old and respected family fencing school. When Jackson set up his school next door at Number 13 Bond street, Henry told his students that they should alternate with lessons from Gentleman Jackson. Im sure there was cross polination of ideas.
I have, notice the gold medalist are cold and composed, though i cant say i have watched zorro. I foil fence myself and celebrating during a bout is disrespectful to your opponent not to mention a disadvantage in that you add to your predictability, same with frustration. If you can control your passion, emotion, and stay cool headed your opponent has less of a chance to predict your movements as well as increasing your mental capacity to predict theirs. Its similar to chess or poker.
@Advacus i'm also fencing with the foil, and when i fence, i don't show any emotion, so like you say, i'm cold, and i think my opponents hate that i don't show any emotion when i got a touche.
@Advacus Gold medalists are cold and composed? Name one gold medalist that is calm and composed.
The real fencers here, the ones that train 7 days a week, are at the club from sunrise to sunset, we know what it feels like to get that touch, the one that you have been working for your entire life. We know what it's like to beat four fleche to the shoulder and what it feels like to see that fucking light go off, hear the fucking beep. While you "foil fence," I scream my ass for for every touch.
celebrating is never dis respectful in my books...they worked hard to get where they are so why not....unless they start...you know..............IN YOUR FACE!! stuff :P
@Advacus its a sport of skill and your opponent is on equal playing grounds, the loser deserves as much fanfare as the winner and i have yet to see honor and integrity in these videos. Fencing is based on a civil disagreance, and for the challenged to even show up was the first sign of true honor. They may be your opponent but they still deserve the same honor. I'd help a fallen enemy up just as soon as id help a fallen commerade.
Is anyone else getting tired of seeing people shout and scream and jump up and down when they have scored a hit? At the end of the day ..it's a sport. That's all. I could understand the excess of feeling if they were fencing with real swords.
@acterHeli I think at that time he was one of the older foillists (31 yrs old). Physically past his prime, however he relied on a larger repetoire than his opponents, to my knowledge he competed in three olympics 1996, 2000 & 2004. A shame as the chinese team were denied a gold medal in 2004 by some very poor refeering.
I took a course in fencing a while ago and I must say this sport is for cocky motherfuckers who has no sense of sportsmanship. They always make idiotic facial expressions, yelling and screaming whenever they land a hit.
does anyone else get the feeling that if they were each given real swords both would perish.... seriously i like fencing but the manner of just attacking in this is silly. i know this is just a sport but it sort of takes the let the winner live sort of thing and pushes it face first into the mud :/ and c'mon falling over after making an erratic attack does not help. yes these guys are much better than me i know but they get caught up in the winning too much and forget the swordsmanship.
@GeninShin0bi The video is cut to the more exciting bits. Acually if you check out the longer bouts on youtube you will see that its a lot slower with a lot of preparations. And lets not forget the 'right of way rule' in foil and sabre. This was to teach you that if someone attacks you MUST make an attempt to nullify their attack before responding. This was to drill the fencers into preserving their lives as opposed to lunfing unto a sharp point. The rules reflect this.
@JMGEntertainmentify Only in hollywood. In europe its a bit like karate. Every other town has a salle or club, and the kids come from all backgrounds. Only in the USA or the UK there is the whole prep school thing going on.
@Frotaalfee Not in the UK or most of Europe, $20 - 25 a month for lessons and clubs have kit you can wear and weapons to use. You can buy your kit one piece a month, good quality gear not including a lame and electric foil will cost about £200 ($350). If you get your own lame and electric foil later it'll cost another £120 ($180) but that's much later on, not cheap but far from a sport only for the rich!
@Blad0506 To be fair he had just won a olympic gold medal for the team after coming from being behind from chinese who ran them close, he was still celebrating. He could have given JUST a handshake (thats all the rules require) by he gave a hug. The real culprit in this match was the Hungarian referee who made a lot of poor touch decisions (both italian and chinese) and got disqualified from refeering. China lost through some poor decisions (and Im Half Italian...)
@muresug It wasGuyart (FRA) who won the individual competition right? Man.. those olympics games were exciting, some of the best fencing matches i've ever seen where made in Athens 2004.
@Blad0506 Yeah hes won quite a lot. Hes the guy that had the chick running after him in the clip. As yet I have never had that effect after winning a bout. Mind you Im nowhere as good as him ;)
@Pandaoniman Those arent even remotely sabers, ever seen one? curved slightly heavy blade with both slashing and piercing capabilities?, not this point stick epee like stuff :)
lol make that fighting slower :D cant see a shit Oo
DunklerVater 1 day ago
Fencing totally awesome!!
munsterr777 2 weeks ago
@munsterr777
Yeah alright, go ahead and ingnore my idea asshole.. I like it but I just wish I could play this sport with more players fighting similtenously instead of 1 vs 1 a chance where you can have a team of fencers on your side vsing another team of fencing, CAN'T A MAN DREAM, DAMN IT I WANT THIS IDEA TO HAPPEN! you don't have to be an asshole!!
Dimitri0809 1 week ago
@Dimitri0809 I think you meant that comment for someone else.
munsterr777 6 days ago
Poke Ring!!!!!! YES!!!!
xThexLionxWithxWeed4 1 month ago
Fencing sucks because it's only 1 vs 1..
Dimitri0809 1 month ago
@Dimitri0809 1v1 sports are the best kind there is
hoboeden 1 month ago
@hoboeden
That's your opinion..
Dimitri0809 1 month ago
@hoboeden
Fencing would be so much better if it were 10 vs 10 and all could fight similtaneously.
Dimitri0809 1 month ago
@Dimitri0809 that would be cooler. But it would have to be 10 v 10 while each person is fighting someone solo
hoboeden 1 month ago
@hoboeden
No.. 10 vs 10 fighting all at the same time!
Dimitri0809 1 month ago
what a bunch of dumbass's. cant they just sidestep then lunge?
Rsay19 1 month ago
@Rsay19
I know, you can't even step sideways in this sport, you can't even move in any direction for that matter, and you can't even have 10 vs 10 playing at the same time instead of 1 vs 1..
Dimitri0809 1 month ago
Fencing was incorporated into Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do.
tonyteh 1 month ago 5
@tonyteh yes, it was mostly the footwork though
futureafpilot4 1 week ago
@tonyteh The stance yes. Bruce Lee was an amazing person.
dmoney69696969 1 week ago
1:54 - 2:00 nice, simple and swift attack
iqdodge 2 months ago
the louder " yes !!! " wins
badjaeaux 2 months ago
The thing I dislike about fencing is that every point is just one attack and then it's done, they break up and start over. There is no actual duelling in my opinion.
JNovak92 3 months ago
@JNovak92 To be fair, if one was fighting with actual swords I don't think they'd be able to carry one after being pierced in the chest by a strong lunge. That's for foil anyway, epee to the leg or sabre to the face would probably be just as painful.
lagraf7683 2 months ago
GREAT VID
MrSpinteractive 3 months ago
im amazed at how many ex boxers do fencing
smilythestig 3 months ago
Hah what faggots. To think they put so much effort into something so stupid! Hahah pathetic.
isthereasunthereisnt 4 months ago
@isthereasunthereisnt What makes you think your the faggot mate
you should never disrespect any sport you haven't tried and i can tell you im a fencer and quite alot of them were ex boxers
smilythestig 3 months ago
@smilythestig Yeah I know I've fenced foil and epee for a year. I was just looking for a reaction.
isthereasunthereisnt 3 months ago
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smilythestig 3 months ago
@isthereasunthereisnt I only started Epee and im starting to realise just how good epee and sabre is
smilythestig 3 months ago
@smilythestig Yeah I fenced foil for a while, then tried sabre and epee and realised how much better epee was.
isthereasunthereisnt 3 months ago
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@smilythestig Yeah I know I've fenced foil and epee for a year. I was just looking for a reaction.
isthereasunthereisnt 3 months ago
I've only just noticed how similar the fencing/kendo and paintball/airsoft rivalries are. They're all combat sports, fencing and paintball are more well known, and it's known when someone's hit, but can lack realism, kendo and airsoft are more realistic, but rely on people's honesty on being hit.
All sports have people telling them to get the "real weapons".
And, lastly, fencing/kendo seem to get annoying anime comments, while paintball/airsoft have CoD comments.
Fencing is more logical, though.
sockschappercat 4 months ago
@sockschappercat
true true.
but fencing is also realistic like ken-do
the thing is that fencing is the European style of sword fighting and ken-do the Japanese
dfghj236 4 months ago
@dfghj236 Although, as a fencer, I can tell you that olympic fencing rules would not hold up in a straight fight.
temp54 4 months ago
@temp54
I absolutely agree
by the way I'm a fencer also, what weapon are you practising?
I'm doing epee
dfghj236 4 months ago
@dfghj236 Epee as well! It's the best
temp54 4 months ago
fencing would be way more interesting if there were like more than 2 fencers fighting at the same time.
Dimitri0809 4 months ago
Where's the swordfighting!?! All they're doing is jabbing at charging at each other!
FelixFelisis 4 months ago
@FelixFelisis "swordfighting" is a theatrical lie put on to entertain the masses. Try any swordfighting move you've seen on TV or in the movies and you'll get a limb or your head hacked off pretty fast. Most duels looked something like fencing but with blades intended to kill or wound people, and greater care for defense (since getting touched on back then meant bleeding, infection, and then death).
Angel0fAnarchy 2 months ago
very fun to watch great action.
Dimitri0809 5 months ago
Can everybody shut up? how an argument broke out over the sport of fencing is beyond me, but if anything could start one its a utube comment section, ive been fencing for 6 years and i am going to the junior olympics, anyone else who can say that your welcome to keep on arguing, retards
thereddeath1100 5 months ago
@thereddeath1100
Anyone who thinks fencing isn't a sport has never done it...
and is probably so fat & lazy that they'd pass out halfway through the first round.
KanzlerM 2 months ago 3
I don't really get what fencing's about, I thought it was relatively simple with the first strike being the winner but most of the bouts on this video is just quick stabs then they both run off waving their fists - they do both think they've won 90% of the time or what?
And can't they save celebrating for after? It's like laughing in an opponent's face, it just makes them all look arrogant rather than real sportsmen and women...
ChainsawGutsFuck 6 months ago
@ChainsawGutsFuck Thevideo doesnt really tell the whole story, its just cutting to the most 'exciting bits'. first to 15 hits in a 9 minute bout.Its 5 PM and they have been fencing since 9AM, round after round. Fencing is mentally exhausting. The screaming is similar to womens grunting in tennis. It releases the boldily tension and focuses the mind on the nextr hit. Generally they dont do it in the Poole rounds, but as fatigue sets in the DE's some fencers have to maintain focus and relaxation.
muresug 6 months ago
@ChainsawGutsFuck Eppeists 4 example generally dont scream, they have to keep their cool as its less about hits than making mistakes. Sabreurs which are more visceral,cannot help from screaming (if only to release the pain from a particulary heavy cut so as to focus on the next hit) Foillists sometimes scream as a means of mentally reinforcing their self belief as the tactics become more and more complex. You salute. You shake hands. But on the piste your opponent is never your friend.
muresug 6 months ago
this is an olympic sport? whats next ... beerpong?
chikenadobo 6 months ago
@chikenadobo Its been a olympic sport since the start. Infact its one of the six last remaining original olympic events. The creator of the modern olympics Baron de Coubertin was a fencer himself. It has more tradition of being olympic than the mutitude of other events on the calender.
muresug 6 months ago
@chikenadobo stop hating!! hater!
vikingmanman 6 months ago
the reason this video is bad is because it's mostly women who are shit as usual
chinwaggler 7 months ago
This is just silly. What once was a very noble and artistic sport with incredible technique has devolved into who has lunge faster. It's pathetic and silly.
Fencing is not what it used to be, but still hiding behind it's former reputation as something great and proud.
Rubbish to watch.
Proletariat12 7 months ago
@Proletariat12 Curious, what makes you an expert on what the sport of fencing "used to be"?
Stan4ik75 6 months ago
@Stan4ik75 Because the sport is well documented and people can watch videos of previous competitions.
Proletariat12 6 months ago
@Proletariat12 I see. Using your logic, I'm an expert surgeon - watched quite a few episodes of "The Operation" :)
Stan4ik75 6 months ago
@Stan4ik75 That made absolutely no sense as an analogy. In the future, please refrain from trying to use logic, yours or others. You simply lack the ability to handle it.
Proletariat12 6 months ago
call me an idiot, but there really doesn't look like there's much strategy here. i see people lunging with their swords to hit the opponent.
atheist6in6a6foxhole 7 months ago
Esgrima es fantástica.
USCSoundCheck 7 months ago
THIS IS NOT SWORD FIGHTING.
PolygonmanTV 7 months ago
@PolygonmanTV Sword fight! Sword fight!
maeseatila 7 months ago
Fairy pokers.
dragster178 7 months ago
This was a great moment for us in Athens. I had the priveledge to see this exact competition in person! I love this sport...also a great way to stay in shape!
Fit4lifeJen 7 months ago
im gunna rip my atenna off my car and start fencing
Rdlerke 7 months ago
Good thing those weren't sharp or anything and whats with that falling over crap. I don't understand how olympic fencers can actually enjoy lunging themselves onto their opponents blades. It truly makes no sense to me. Also whats with the chicken arm at 1:40. Were these people taught no form or what? This looks less like a sport of skill and more like a game of chance. I know a lot of people enjoy this but the is not fencing anymore as it used to be.
DSCFencing 7 months ago
@DSCFencing maybe thats why the girl at 1:40 lost the touch :)
jadgl968 7 months ago
@DSCFencing Dude, I'd suggest, that you'd familiarize yourself with the subject before commenting on it. If something does not make sense, but it's being done over and over again, on the highest level, like the final round of the 04 Games, then there must be some logic to it. FYI: the girl with the "chicken arm" is Sylwia Gruchala (POL) . Two time World Champion and a bronze medalist in Athens. I'm sure that with your spectacular form, you'll score exactly ZERO touches against her ;)
Stan4ik75 6 months ago
This is boring. It's cooler in the movies..
cougarbart 8 months ago
@cougarbart shut the fuck up you street whore.
XXActionJackson 8 months ago
@XXActionJackson
Go shove a sabre up your ass.
cougarbart 7 months ago
whoo-hoo! girl lefty fencer like me! (first bout)
Manaphyfreak123 8 months ago
1:06 really ur knee hurt ...
mrkidd1 8 months ago
Some fencers just look terrible. But they can score the point, and thats what really counts. And then you have some fencers who display beautiful form, but they cant score.
Lordofthenipplerings 9 months ago
kendo>fencing any day
onimas1 9 months ago
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What a boring sport!!!
grahamlong 10 months ago
@grahamlong
It's only boring because it's one vs one fighting, If there were like a 100 swordsman and if it were to be a 50 vs 50 battle that would be interesting in a lot of ways but unfortunately, Besides, I like the sword action I thinks it's the best kind of movement in the world.
Dimitri0809 9 months ago
The goal of fencing swords is to draw blood. In this case, to simply score a point. I personally feel uncomfortable with a flimsy sword. But you get more speed, and flexibility from a lighter blade than you do with a broadsword. As for why there are all these clashes. Its because they are all relatively equal fencers. The differences only being their percentages to score against one another.
Lordofthenipplerings 10 months ago
man those are flimsy little things. what's the point of fighting with something that just bends even when you just swing it?
pureintellectual 10 months ago
@pureintellectual Because if they were stiff the protective equipment wouldnt stand a chance to protect the athletes. In the early 1980's one of those 'flimsy weapons' went through Vladmir Smirnov head in the wourld championships when the foible (bendy bit) snapped off leaving just the blunt 3/4 of the sword. Also you dont swing a fencing sword. You thrust or you cut. Swinging is the first thing begginers get drilled out of.
muresug 10 months ago
@muresug then how do you block?
it looks like it bends if you move it at all :P unless you thrust it completely straight
man i wish i could do kendo
pureintellectual 10 months ago
@pureintellectual Ah in fencing we parry, that is to say we redirect the attack off the target area rather than insisting in resisting the blow. But in blocking or parrying you should use the forte of the blade, that is to say the first 1/3 of the sword closest to the guard. This is always stiff and never flexible. The last 2/3rds of the blade on ANY swords have some degree of flexibility. This is more in fencing for safety AND also for durability. Flexible blades last longer than stiff ones.
muresug 10 months ago
when fencing with real swords it looks like half th time you'd both die :O
StaleDonutPictures 10 months ago
Boxing is a different animal. It does have the footwork element such as fencing, although using different sets. Boxing stresses stopping power. So its not enough that you hit the opponent, but your opponent must be stopped because of it. Fencing focuses on fast footwork and deep extensions, where if the touch was performed without the blade, there would have been very little stopping power. Physical strength isnt stressed in fencing because the blade would easily puncture an opponent.
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Penelopeandswords 10 months ago
goood
tigranian1955 10 months ago
i poked you first!
jmbstat 11 months ago
FORGET the fencers' skills! Props to the judges for making the calls, I can barely make out who won each time.
3MPTYM3LODI3S 1 year ago
all combat sports are similar, it's all about controlled aggression, physical fitness and training. that's true from wrestling and jiu jitsu to boxing and karate
jarheadkauai 1 year ago 3
I want to see it with some real rapiers. That would really crank up the volume. No parries in this sissy shit with little car antanae for a weapon. How gay.
LRWarrior 1 year ago
@LRWarrior They bend because if they didnt flex the sport would be too dangerous. In 1982 World Championships Matteus Behr accidently killed Vladmir Smirnov when his blade broke and the broken stiff end went through the mask and through the russian's head. Bear in mind that foil was just training weapon for the deadly smallsword which historically replaced the rapier precisely because the rapier could not parry and riposte in two beats. I would take a smallsword over a rapier anyday.
muresug 1 year ago
They look like a bunch of fucking faeries out there
Tuber1193 1 year ago
@Tuber1193 What the fuck is a faeries
BIGIFANDYELLOWCARD 1 year ago 3
@BIGIFANDYELLOWCARD is it NEOPETS? O.O
celafusionix 1 year ago
I might be going off a bit here but I think fencing is very similar to boxing. Both are described as "physical chess matches" in which strategy and peak physical condition is needed. Yes one has a sword and the other is more 'brutish' but actually quite alike. Strategy's for hitting an opponent, attacking first whilst watching out for counters (riposte's or parries in fencing im not sure?). But either way they are both great mental sports.
Yea I do boxing but not done fencing, looks great tho!
HonourableFighter1 1 year ago 49
@HonourableFighter1 I'm a martial artist in Jeet Kune Do which uses a lot of Pununtukan (sorry if i've misspelt it) which is a chinese style of boxing/street combat. I think the main difference is that fencing uses 1 attacking limb (the sword/weapon) as opposed to 2 in boxing (both hands) or, as i'm more used to 9 (both feet, knees hands, elbows and forehead). The restriction of striking limbs in fencing, as i have found, actually enhances the tactical thinking of the game. you have to calculate
Rahrhino 1 year ago
@HonourableFighter1 BRO! I thought the same thing when I first started, granted boxing is taught at my gym where I fence. Totally agree with you though
woohoo4576 1 year ago
@HonourableFighter1 fencing and wing chun have VERY similar concepts
allenLVOEprado 11 months ago
@allenLVOEprado really? how? i do fencing at my university, i wanted to do wing chun but they didnt do it.
UnderclassHero473 11 months ago
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@allenLVOEprado really? how? i do fencing at my university, i wanted to do wing chun but they didnt do it.
UnderclassHero473 11 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 boxing is for animals, fencing is for men
Shanniquitie 10 months ago
Thanks to all replies, loving the people here who can enjoy and respect the similarities of sports and enjoy everything about them.
@Shanniquitie: Guess you haven't tried boxing mate. It's a heck of a lot more mental (as well as all martial arts) than people would assume. Also simply statiung that fencing is for 'men' is quite a narrow-minded opinion, and you shouldn't stereotype sports as they are all good for different people. Kindly justify your opinion or don't say anything :)
HonourableFighter1 10 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 holy shit, a well thought out, meaningful, coherent, comment actually pertaining to the material in the comment it is replying to. good for you :)
piemuffinly 10 months ago
@piemuffinly Haha why thankyou :). And a well-written response to you too! :). I don't want a stereotypical caps lock youtube flame war occurring, so I try using all my literary skill in stating my opinion XP.
Then again....... HOLEHSHIIII >9000!!!!!! >:O. I WAHZ TOTALI RIGHT AND YOU ARE A LITLE S$%T FOR NOT HAFIN MAI OPINYUN!!!
I have great respect for martial artists and those with educated opinions on topics, but have little patience for those who speak badly of something without trying it.
HonourableFighter1 10 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 boxing involves two men pounding each other. fencing has removed all but the ACCIDENTAL infliction of violence - boxing involves trauma as part of the "fun". More people die, or suffer brain damage and physical damage, during a boxing match than they ever could during a bout of fencing. it's a blood sport, and should be banned.
Shanniquitie 10 months ago
@Shanniquitie Thankyou for replying with a 'good' comment :). It seems we have a difference of opinion, which is fine, I'll just list my reasons. Amateur boxing is the more 'sportlike' form of boxing, with protection and greater rules, removing the more 'bloodlike' element. True some still die, but generally through accident and VERY rarely (less than a handful in last decade?). I believe that it isn't a bloodsport per se, but I can see where you are coming from, thus respect your opinion :).
HonourableFighter1 10 months ago
@Shanniquitie Sorry to reply again but in pro boxing or the 'bloodier' and more popular side of boxing, the people train to go to their limits, and test themselves physically and mentally against another, with limitations. The regulation of drugs whilst not strict I believe is good enough to stop almost all boxers (not Mosley :P) taking drugs and other illegal actions. Hence I believe it is a well regulated sport that should be allowed as it is a physical contest between men, not animals.
HonourableFighter1 10 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 A lot of boxing in its eraly days especially in England, specifically when it was called 'pugilism' was taught by fencing masters, right down from the extention from the elbow jabs and the footwork. Eventually the two disciplines diverged, the similarity nowadays I think is in the footwork. Amir Khan and many outfighters and flyweights look similar to fencers, though heavyweight boxing with its reliance on hooks & crosses bears less resemblance. Distance and footwork is key.
muresug 10 months ago
James Figg that was the first to advertise the teaching of pugilism and to provide exhibitions of skill in its use. He was acknowledged as a master of the cudgel, sword, and staff as well as pugilism. His calling card advertised his academy and billed him as a "Master of the Noble Science of Defence." It pictured him holding a single-stick and offered instruction in "use of the small backsword and quarterstaff."
muresug 10 months ago
Many popular champions opened boxing clubs. Gentleman Jackson became the champion in 1795 and opened a club in London and became very popular with a certain set of the aristocratic gentlemen. He was friendly with Henry Angelo, who had an old and respected family fencing school. When Jackson set up his school next door at Number 13 Bond street, Henry told his students that they should alternate with lessons from Gentleman Jackson. Im sure there was cross polination of ideas.
muresug 10 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 Tae Kwon Do is also a great thinking game. I love to watch boxing and now fencing. So much strategy involved and athleticism
ESFBros249 8 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 boxing is more like saber foil is really a class unto it's self
blazontroll 7 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 a riposte in fencing is an attack after a successful parry and a parry is to defend/block from an attack
ElitePredator98 6 months ago
@HonourableFighter1 according to my research of jeet kune do, straight punching (ex. boxing) came from fencing :)
joetheazl 3 months ago
I have, notice the gold medalist are cold and composed, though i cant say i have watched zorro. I foil fence myself and celebrating during a bout is disrespectful to your opponent not to mention a disadvantage in that you add to your predictability, same with frustration. If you can control your passion, emotion, and stay cool headed your opponent has less of a chance to predict your movements as well as increasing your mental capacity to predict theirs. Its similar to chess or poker.
Advacus 1 year ago 29
@Advacus i'm also fencing with the foil, and when i fence, i don't show any emotion, so like you say, i'm cold, and i think my opponents hate that i don't show any emotion when i got a touche.
m1dm4n 11 months ago
@Advacus Gold medalists are cold and composed? Name one gold medalist that is calm and composed.
The real fencers here, the ones that train 7 days a week, are at the club from sunrise to sunset, we know what it feels like to get that touch, the one that you have been working for your entire life. We know what it's like to beat four fleche to the shoulder and what it feels like to see that fucking light go off, hear the fucking beep. While you "foil fence," I scream my ass for for every touch.
thelis08 11 months ago
@Advacus
celebrating is never dis respectful in my books...they worked hard to get where they are so why not....unless they start...you know..............IN YOUR FACE!! stuff :P
RemusLupo 10 months ago
@Advacus
My fencing teacher said she liked to smile a lot...
seeing a big grin inside the mask intimidated her opponents.
KanzlerM 10 months ago 11
@KanzlerM As a fencing coach myself, I completely agree with your teacher :)
faulknerj1 2 months ago 2
@Advacus its a sport of skill and your opponent is on equal playing grounds, the loser deserves as much fanfare as the winner and i have yet to see honor and integrity in these videos. Fencing is based on a civil disagreance, and for the challenged to even show up was the first sign of true honor. They may be your opponent but they still deserve the same honor. I'd help a fallen enemy up just as soon as id help a fallen commerade.
cross1284 6 months ago
Is anyone else getting tired of seeing people shout and scream and jump up and down when they have scored a hit? At the end of the day ..it's a sport. That's all. I could understand the excess of feeling if they were fencing with real swords.
priapus56 1 year ago 2
@priapus56 I think it's excusable given that these are the Olympics. High adrenaline and high stakes for them.
waltonky 1 year ago 2
I have so much respect for this sport. Gonna start playing it soon (it's gonna be fun)
massari4u 1 year ago
It disappoints me to see that respect and discipline are being drained out of this sport :\
Advacus 1 year ago
@Advacus Have you actually seen old fencing clips? Or are you just going by what you've seen in Zorro?
DWarrior666 1 year ago
there is no place for celebration in an act imitating a life and death circumstance
groktheha 1 year ago
2:41 CONSTIPATIONNNNNN
skittlesareyum48 1 year ago
lame.
Dejavo 1 year ago
Dong moves are very wonderful....maybe a bit weaker than Sanzo but really spectacular and well controlled....
acterHeli 1 year ago
@acterHeli I think at that time he was one of the older foillists (31 yrs old). Physically past his prime, however he relied on a larger repetoire than his opponents, to my knowledge he competed in three olympics 1996, 2000 & 2004. A shame as the chinese team were denied a gold medal in 2004 by some very poor refeering.
muresug 1 year ago
I took a course in fencing a while ago and I must say this sport is for cocky motherfuckers who has no sense of sportsmanship. They always make idiotic facial expressions, yelling and screaming whenever they land a hit.
n3rdbear 1 year ago
@n3rdbear i dont... and no one else in my class does....we still shake hands...
originalkillerpuppy 1 year ago
5*****star video & music
36962able 1 year ago
requires a lot of skill
jdrewist 1 year ago
1:27 SOMEONE ACTUALLY USED THAT MOVE!
RancidAppleProducts 1 year ago
@RancidAppleProducts It was off target, which is a shame as he timed it just right.
muresug 1 year ago
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boring as hell..
jfmojaco 1 year ago
i trained Fencing for 4 years, best sport i ever trained
rabies79 1 year ago
I really envy how deep these guys can lunge and then recover immediately....they make it look so easy.
Angel0fAnarchy 1 year ago
@Angel0fAnarchy it is if you train and strech
modymoo2 1 year ago
Epic counterattacks at 2:16 and 3:06.
BbClarinet3 1 year ago
Love the music, but would rather see more of the fencing rather than all the close-ups of faces. THis is arty, though!
angelahorn 1 year ago
holy crap, thats fast and intense
Opps1991 1 year ago
como se llama la cancion porque ESTA BUENISIMA!!!!! :D
MsBabiki 1 year ago
Man i love this sport!
TheBubbanator100 1 year ago
3:38 LOL
woofsandkisses 1 year ago
@muresug thankyou for the insight it is much appreciated :)
GeninShin0bi 1 year ago
2010 .my mother fences & volleyballs 41 !@#!@#!@#. 2010
itspeaks037 1 year ago
does anyone else get the feeling that if they were each given real swords both would perish.... seriously i like fencing but the manner of just attacking in this is silly. i know this is just a sport but it sort of takes the let the winner live sort of thing and pushes it face first into the mud :/ and c'mon falling over after making an erratic attack does not help. yes these guys are much better than me i know but they get caught up in the winning too much and forget the swordsmanship.
GeninShin0bi 1 year ago 2
@GeninShin0bi The video is cut to the more exciting bits. Acually if you check out the longer bouts on youtube you will see that its a lot slower with a lot of preparations. And lets not forget the 'right of way rule' in foil and sabre. This was to teach you that if someone attacks you MUST make an attempt to nullify their attack before responding. This was to drill the fencers into preserving their lives as opposed to lunfing unto a sharp point. The rules reflect this.
muresug 1 year ago
FENCING IS USALLY FOR RICH FOLKS
JMGEntertainmentify 1 year ago
@JMGEntertainmentify Only in hollywood. In europe its a bit like karate. Every other town has a salle or club, and the kids come from all backgrounds. Only in the USA or the UK there is the whole prep school thing going on.
muresug 1 year ago
@JMGEntertainmentify Is it really that expensive??
Frotaalfee 1 year ago
@Frotaalfee Not in the UK or most of Europe, $20 - 25 a month for lessons and clubs have kit you can wear and weapons to use. You can buy your kit one piece a month, good quality gear not including a lame and electric foil will cost about £200 ($350). If you get your own lame and electric foil later it'll cost another £120 ($180) but that's much later on, not cheap but far from a sport only for the rich!
AgricolaAugusta 1 year ago
I looked up fencing because of iCarly... Sad huh?
Yunghunt79 1 year ago
@Yunghunt79 wow another zombiefied slave of useless televison shows to distract the mind of kids. i feel sorry for you........:(
JMGEntertainmentify 1 year ago
@JMGEntertainmentify don't. im not a kid either. don't judge me.
Yunghunt79 1 year ago
damn they fence good! im a fencer 2 but omg!
TheSarabandos 1 year ago
3:22 ROFL!!!! old guys are pretty excited. And not just the victory....
jhawk2817 1 year ago
what a fkn asshole at the end, didnt even thank his opponent other than a brohug
sniperquasi 1 year ago
@sniperquasi That's Sanzo, he was one of the best and one of the most arrogant fencers.
Blad0506 1 year ago
@Blad0506 To be fair he had just won a olympic gold medal for the team after coming from being behind from chinese who ran them close, he was still celebrating. He could have given JUST a handshake (thats all the rules require) by he gave a hug. The real culprit in this match was the Hungarian referee who made a lot of poor touch decisions (both italian and chinese) and got disqualified from refeering. China lost through some poor decisions (and Im Half Italian...)
muresug 1 year ago
@muresug It wasGuyart (FRA) who won the individual competition right? Man.. those olympics games were exciting, some of the best fencing matches i've ever seen where made in Athens 2004.
Blad0506 1 year ago
@Blad0506 Yeah hes won quite a lot. Hes the guy that had the chick running after him in the clip. As yet I have never had that effect after winning a bout. Mind you Im nowhere as good as him ;)
muresug 1 year ago
I saw Dong at his back..
byakaa 1 year ago
Someone knows the chinese fencer at 2:38, 2:46 and 3:54?????? what's his name?
acterHeli 1 year ago
@acterHeli I Think it might be Dong but Im not sure...
muresug 1 year ago
I go to Fencing lessons
GeorgeJ001 1 year ago
To incorporate that into a one punch. Fencing can be incorporate into many things.
y2yang 1 year ago
fuuuuckkkkk. whats all that gear cost for a beginner?
chuckybananas 1 year ago
@chuckybananas beginners don't need it all ;)
pinopil 1 year ago
@chuckybananas You will need to practice YEARS until you need all that gear.
It guess a decent budget for a decent gear is around 1200$
Blad0506 1 year ago
kendo is better (y)
rafhalimaxd 1 year ago
Give me a two handed Claymore, Il beat them all hands down!
CollieryRaas 1 year ago
3:37 attempted use of the flick maneuver. It looks like tournament blades are a lot more flimsy than practice foils?
cv9113366 1 year ago
kenjutsu [kendo] is more interesting, this has its own share of artistry but its just not ...cool enough, unless the fight lasts longer
SoldierCyfix 1 year ago
agressive much??
TheFurball1212 1 year ago
they should call this epee fighting, and its simply who touches first, nothing special about it. meh :)
rhaivaen 1 year ago
@rhaivaen saber is where it's at
Pandaoniman 1 year ago
@Pandaoniman Those arent even remotely sabers, ever seen one? curved slightly heavy blade with both slashing and piercing capabilities?, not this point stick epee like stuff :)
rhaivaen 1 year ago