get an accent analyst on this monkey Walid Shoebat - as one I will tell you this is the worst acting I've ever seen. He speaks English like an American trying to play the role of Arab. This guy has lived in the states since he was 16 - why is he trying to sound like he's a fresh off the boat convert?.. pathetic.
Hey you muslim scum, why all those cuts and edits on walids speech? Are you afraid? You are scared to death that the truth will come out and the ppl in the west will see the muslim lies and the true evil intention of islam. But the west is waking very fast up and it will crush islam once and for all and i will be there watching it. islam promotes slavery, rape, torutre and murder and it will suffer its own evil deeds! Fuck mohammed, fuck islam and fuck you muslim lies!
@raptors1100: very strange, there are a lot of cuts and edits on Walids speech, this video is biased, but it still shows that Shoebat has a lot of valid points and 18,000 islamic terror attacks since 9/11 speaks volumes. islam is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of hate, darkness and down to ground evil. They should idg out mohammeds bones if they can find it and hack it into pieces and burn the rest, nuke mekka and end the whole evil game!
tell me wot happened at 5:35 when walitell me wot happened at 5:35 when walid quotes the talmud ? you wontd quotes the talmud ? you wonttell me wot happened at 5:35 when walid quotes the talmud ? you wonttell me wot happened at 5:35 when walid quotes the talmud ? you wont
@BackInTheGarden I agree. Watching this made me convinced with Walid. The debate "results" looks like they're lying because the crowds here doesn't want to agree with him and laugh at them with the "response" to make it look they're lying and they're not telling the truth.
He is exaggerating his accent. This dude has an American mom and was born a US citizen, and he admits his mom was an American. His father obviously once lived in the U.S., and he had no problem marrying an American woman. Sometimes if you listen to him he doesn't have such a thick accent.
Walid Shoebot is right on. His message is good and right. Listen to what he is saying, compare it to what the Muslims believe, teach and do. Fundamental Islamists want to kill this guy. Why don't fundamental Christians want to kill people who rail against Christianity? It's because their kingdom is not of this world.
@deluzente: you are exactly right. is it not strange how walids speech is edited a lot and his truth still rings through? those muslim scums can do nothing against the truth ad soon they will fall prey to their own lies and evil deeds, i cant wait to see them going down. but hopefully some of them will see the light.
Notice how the muslim women have only right to speak when they are deffending muhhamed! But have no right to wear what they want lol If she were to speak of her rights as a women, the muslims would stone her to death! Notice also how the muslim section is all paralized and shaking the whole time! Is it the truth that makes them scared and afraid? heheh how blinded muslims are!
The obvious editing of this video is deceptive and the animated graphic of Shoebats' name is abusive and disgusting. The videos author shows bad character.
If Shoebat is a lair or wrong why then does he so upset some Muslims?
Shoebat shows what sort of idiot and racist he is when he mocks Indians by speaking with that accent. The only reason he did that was to get a few laughs. So not only is he a habitual liar who is licking the back side of Zionism, but he is also a first class clown.
@Imadeyourun: Fuck you and fuck you again you stupid piece of shit! Shoebat himself has an accent and it is okay to make fun of ones accent. but you humorless islamic cockroch would not understand it. You raping, murdering piece of filth, the day will come when you have no where to go but to sudden destruction and i will be there to witness! BTW did ypu rape a 9 year old girl today, you fucking pervert? U muslim scum make me sick. Fuck you, you islamic mook!
@SupernaturalXtreme: WOW, there's a lot of hate in your comment! And an excessive of obscenities too! I'm guessing your not of the intelligent variety. I will be waiting for you too, just don't pee your panties when that time comes. ;)
@Imadeyourun: Hate? No I am soley angry. But you are typical thug, instead of dealing with my points u go straught to the emotional level, u attack me personally, how samrt is that?! Everybody with some brain can see what u r doing, u do not address any of my points & attack me personally, ur gaol is clear: to silence any critic on islam, why? afarid of the truth? btw I cant wait to see u in person, I am not even a bit afarid of u take ur best shot you filthy twat. btw mohammed was a bitch!
@SupernaturalXtreme: " Fuck you and fuck you again you stupid piece of shit!" And "Fuck you, you islamic mook!". Now tell me, oh not so bright one. Who started the personal attacks first? And yes, your words are full of hate, hate and fear. You are such shallow and obtuse little individual, aren't you?
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
To All Islamic people and everyone here, God Loves You VERY Much! :) That's the great news!- I'm not saying this to be mean, just to show you something. Search "Allah Had No Son" here or on Google (1st Result), and read that please, then come back to discuss - God Bless You!- Damian
Walid is right and it is strange everytime its gets interesting there is a drop out in the video. post the entire video, without any drop outs and in better quality so everybody can make ones own mind instaed of getting misguided by this manipulized video!
@ITheProfessorI: u say "in all fairness", but yet u r not fair. Walid is for real & in order to convince me and everybody else it is not so, u have no other choice but to present real evidene. It is NOT enough that you say walid is not real and watch other videos to find out etc. I 100% belive walid & if u oppose, u r are the one to bring forth the evidence against him, just like in court. Ergo; as long as u have NO evidence that he is not who he says he is, I believe him & other do too!
@ITheProfessorI: u said: "Not you nor' I are in court, it's youtube, learn the difference." The principal of somebody is innocent until ones guilt is proofen does not only goes for the court room, the entire western society is based on that principal, therfore if sombody is accused of faking ones identity the accuser, in this case u, has to bring forth proof for that accusation until this is not done, the accused is innocent! maybe u should learn that principal.
@ITheProfessorI: now u say you now the principal of one being innocent until ines guilt is proofen, but just minutes ago you did not ally those prinipals on this particular case. interestingly inconsitsant. inconsistance is a clear sign of a failed argument! u strongest argument that walid is a fraud is that: "You'd be surprised what people would do for a $" thats your proof? This is no proof at all, walid could have made more money by spreading islam financed by saudi arabia. like Faisel Rauf!
lol, You are clearly playing with words now and trying to throw off the topic.
My proof was within the video I linked you to but you didn't want to see it. Instead you go off that one sentence I stated as a general one for those who sell themselves for $ and why.
Walid couldn't have done that because Faisal was working under Bush when no one knew who Walid was.
Now, if you are going to try to prove a negative, then drop this conversation...
@ITheProfessorI: dont u dare accuse me of something I never did! I was very clear with my words,no playimg around. why is it that ppl like u always accuse others of what u r guilty of? dont answer that pls. so far u have not brought forth any proof, but assumptions and blade accusations, thats all. U wiggeling like a wurm in the mud, but before u get hostile, I'm not saying that u r a wurm, u r a human being with dignity, but pls behaive with some dignity than too. God bless you.
@ITheProfessorI: you accuse that walid makes money out of the ignorance of others, now how much money do you think they make. I dont know it eitherm but I know Walid has family and he also loves life, therfore it is just nuts to say that Walid would risk his & his family's life to sell some books & make money by getting invited in some churches. His muslimside of family has cut him off, he actually lost his property in bethlehem. ur claim make no sense whatsoever. Walid is for real, periode!
@ITheProfessorI: btw. dispite the fact whether walid is realor not, I double checked his cliams, I checked out muslims sources galore, tons of material and whatever I looked at, the claims walid makes are true, so what muslims should worry more about walid identiy is that walid clearly exposed islam as false, no matter how u put it, islam has lost its face: the only way ppl become muslims is because they do not know the whole truth about islam, if they would, they never become muslims.
@ITheProfessorI: you do not have repect for anthing, because you spread stuff you cannot proof. so, if you are right bring forth some real evidence that walid is a fake. but you dont have any proof, so shut up about it! PS. if you have real proof, i would even apologize to you, but again u dont have any proof!
Does anyone ask why this man, Walid Shoebat, a man who admits to placing a bomb near an Israeli bank branch in Bethlehem is walking free in America, and not in jail, or in Gunatanamo Bay?
Okay i have been living in muslim countries for the last 24 years and i was never feed hatered by the spoon !!! no offense this lady difenitly has been throught quite a bad experinece because she is the one carrying so much hatred, she actually reminded me of the middle ages when the burnt 200000 women claiminig that their witches,!!! i guess this is what they said to encourage the masses before the burning stage (absolute rage blinded by hatered) why!!!!!
whatever they said or do would never made islam disappear from the world it would just increase more faith to islam.ALLAH is the best planner .SO to all muslim brothers and sister hold on to your faith.WEare still the best of all religion.
the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
@jalontube56 Fadel is loved by Jesus. Pray he doesn't have a heart attack before he meets him. Walid and Nonie were right when they gave their report, John 3:16 - 20 says it all!
@pandabear1960 thanx i needed to read that. God bless. i wish fadel would view this video and realize that hes not making any sense, and the ppl clap at stupid things he says. walid told him how to pernounce his name right, fadel says "i dont care", how rude and imature. plus the ppl laugh and clap to this??? wow
@jalontube56 Agree with you guys this video should be Walib and Nonie making Fadel look stupid. His rebutales doesn't make any sense. Hope many Moslems can find the truth before it is too late.
because he did not live under direct civil Israeli occupation, which does'nt exist there (Jewish civilians dont go inside the west bank or or in to gaza strip !!) bethlehem, is (like the rest of the west bank and gaza strip) been Civilian governed by the the local administration!, all the education under this territories is being structured by the Palestinian authority (which in its turn is based on the old Jordanian system) and mostly funded by forgien money- which effects it also.
the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
@fajralislam72: the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
@fajralislam72 the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
And why not jesus said " they would b MANY -REPEAT MANY (HE SAID)- false prophets(WO WROTE THE BIBLE BY THEIR HAND AND EXPLAINED IT BY THEIR WISH) and they would deceive many(Christians). "
You wake up...it is so obvious.
jesus said "prophetSSS" and we don't beleive in a prophet after Jesus except Muhammed and no prophets after him
listen u r not that smart . i am a witness of jesus christ . i know the color of his spirit, heis voice, and power . jesus christ SHOWED ME he has the powa to create the world. he told me these words.
I am here
I am with u
i will never leave u
where eva u go i walk with u
I love u i love u i love u
I am always with u
I love u i love u
he took all my stress worries etc love and peace cannot be described in words. I could hardly stay in my body i felt my spirit wanting to walk to him.
I am not too smart to do/say what? I am talking to u by logic and u r telling me a dream of your's? even your dreams; anyone can say these words to anyone!
I looked to your religon once and said to my self "they may be right, why not?" but by looking to trinity & making Jesus a god, it is completly non-logic where this is the door to christianity, and when christians critisize Islam they critisize the branches of the branches which is even when analized and investigated it is just lies
the bible is full of the jewish prophets which he said were real prophets. your muhammed came after. he is a false prophet , satans plan b after he lost at the cross. Btw there r not 70+ virgins waiting for u , heaven is a spiritual place not a whore house. the only whore house is down below where satan resides.
22. And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Beelzebub! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons." 23. So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? 24. If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come.
some people here need to go to a dictionary and learn the definition to witness. i am a witness of jesus christ he showed me he has the power to create this world that is showin me he is god. i said with my inner voice in 1 day u created this world and he was listening and with the love he showed me he knew that i was calling him god and he kept pouring his love and peeace which words cannot describe. jesus lord and god from witnes wake up . satan appeared to muhamed cuz he lost at the cross.
is jesus god or son of god?or is jesus a messiah or a son of man?if jesus is god then who did he worship?if jesus is god himself then why didnt he save himself from his crucifixion?did ur god die on the cross??can a GOD DIE ON A CROSS??
easy to answer god is the father . ask your self can a father die for a child. doesnt a father love the child enough to die for him or her. jesus is lord and jesus is god . i am his witness. all muslims will mourn on the day of judgment and fake jews.allah is not god. jesus showed me he is so allah is not god. who is allah? I know, do u?
jesus is lord and god.I stood with him not u or some whom u mention. moses is the only one who saw the same power as i did u can barely survive it. the power of creation u can barely stand in it and jesus is begotten son . u can be can a child of god if u do his will but there is only one begotten son.i said with my inner voice which is the same voice i called him told him In one day lord u created this earth . jesus told me I love u , I am always with u . now he knows me till the day i die.
when he showed me teh power to create this world in one day.the power cannot be described with words u can try but you'll never know how awesome it is unles s your there. jesus has all the power. that day was the best day of my life, if the world knew what they have for a god they would live in peace.
@Terceira73 read ur point, becuase u r confusing yourself, Islam is the only true religion, search for urself, bcoz u dnt wnt 2 be regretting, on the of judgement. and be careful what u say about Allah swt, read the Qur'an and you'll find clearly the answers. peace
We muslims aso believe in all prophets that are mentioned in the new and old testament. The koran has a whole chapter about maria. And jesus pbuh is mentioned more times then the prophet mohammed in the koran. In the koran you will never find prophets being name called. While in the bible and the old testament prophets are called names. For example in the old testament maria is called a whore. Such things about prophets you will never find because the koran is Gods word untouched.
He never said that there would be no prophet after him. He never said he is the last pophet. Ergo there will come a true prophet. He did not only talk about false prophets but also about true prophet and how you can distinguish between a true and a false prophet. Ergo how you can recognise a true prophet. Read more about his words about how you can recognise a true pophet. Maybe the puzzle will then fit together. Good luck.
@mocroroosje18 referring to Muhammed, yes he did say he was the last of the prophets. as for identifying prophets, there were several things identifying him as a prophet. the first and most obvious is the Qur'an. the ultimate form of the Arabic language, and a book written with such perfection that no writer ever since has been able to challenge it. [and we're talking about the most self critical language ever. speakers of the Arabic language were known for extreme literary precision]
@mocroroosje18 for the Qur'an to come in the hands of a man who could not read or write, that was a miracle. it was physically impossible for him to have written it. nor would another man [because for a person to write something as perfect as the Qur'an, they would have to be THE greatest Arabic writer of all time. in a land where it was something of great pride to be a writer or poet of the language, there is no way a man who wrote something like that wouldn't turn up eventually.]
@mocroroosje18 then there was the birthmark present on all of God's Messengers. unfortunately that can't be used as a relevent argument because i have no material, undeniable proof of it, like a picture.
Concept of God in Christianity: Drunk, thieve, Regret, Gets tired, forgets, fear, defeated, apologize, cursed, shame, fool, disgrace, Bear, Lamb (sheep), warm, Lioness, like chicken, die, Naked, wears woman dress, where is Greatness of your God don't you use your brain!?, open your book and ask for evidence for anything mentioned about your God in the Bible,You Welcome
I guess aparently World War I and World War II, which accounted for a third of all the estimated deaths of people in war in recorded history was done by muslims as well. Is that what you are saying???
See this is just one of the reasons I have to support my claim.
Apparently some claim that the west appears to be supporting peace and democracy. That's the biggest Bullshit I've ever heard.
The West supported Dictators like Saddam Hussein and the Shah against their own people. Our Secretary of "Defense" IS THE FUCKING FOUNDER OF AL QAEDA.
Does it not occur to you that the reason we are hated in the middle east may have something to do with our foreign policy rather than religion (be it Islam or anything else)or are you just buying propaganda like mostdo
Have you forgotten that 800,000 civilians were killed in Iraq or is that one of the other fact on the "suppress" list of Propaganda filled Faux Noise that you get your information from???
People often ask me, where are the moderate muslims that condemn terror. I respond that I am one, and then simply ask this.
WHERE ARE THE SO-CALLED MODERATES THAT CONDEMNED THE IRAQ WAR, ABU GHRAIB, GUANTANAMO, DEPORTATION OF INNOCENTS THROUGH THE PATRIOT ACT, AND THE LIST GOES ONE.
@ua1001 You must not own a television or computer. The Iraq war is still debated, Abu Ghraib is condemned (and people found guilty), guantanamo is misunderstood, and the list goes on. "Moderates" exist throughout the western world. What is not tolerated is the innocent slaughter of civilians by terrorists. Who is responsible for the multitude of deaths? It is the religion of death: Islam. Whether it is fighting factions, or suicide bombings - car bombs, militia, etc. Wake up.
@ThisIDig incorrect. the ones responsible for the deaths are those who misunderstand the Qur'an, and who ignore the prophet muhammed's teachings [which, in their own right, are vital to the completion of the religion. his teachings are the explanation, the supplement that completes Islam. you can't have one without the other]. those people are the ones who become terrorists
@RPGTKingpin “Kinana had been guardian of the tribe's treasures, and he was brought before the apostle, who asked where they were hidden. But Kinana refused to disclose the place. The apostle of Allah handed him over to al-Zubayr, saying, 'Torture him until he tells what he knows', and al-Zubayr kindled a fire on his chest so that he almost expired; then the apostle gave him to Muhammad b. Maslama, who struck off his head.” (Sirat Rasul Allah)
@ThisIDig this, in particular, i want your source of. in Islamic culture there are Strong Quotes and Weak Quotes, named so depending on how dependable they are...
the fire part in particular intrigues me. because of all the things in Islam, fire in particular is forbidden from use as a weapon. 'The only one who punishes with fire is Allah'. namely though hell. so to use it as a weapon is forbidden. please give me your source...
@RPGTKingpin "Narrated Anas bin Malik: 'On the day of the Conquest, the Prophet entered Mecca, wearing a helmet on his head. When he took it off, a man came and said, "Ibn Khatal is clinging to the curtain of the Ka'ba." The Prophet said, "Kill him."'" (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari Vol. 5, Book 59, No. 582)
@RPGTKingpin "Narrated Abu Huraira: 'The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr)."'"(Hadith al-Bukhari Vol 1, Bk 2, #35)
Mohammed did some things that were very honorable, but these quotes (and others) show him clearly as a militant.
@ThisIDig participation here is not restricted to the military sense, contrary to what you think. in fact, let me give you an example. you know that one word that everyone's afraid of these days? "Jihad"? well, what if i were to tell you that, now, as i'm speaking to you, am doing Jihad? by educating others on the points of view of Muslims and Islam generally, i am fighting ignorance about the religion, and therefore fighting in God's name. do you see anything blowing up? i think not.
@RPGTKingpin Regarding Jihad, please see the following verses of the Koran: 2:216, 4:95, 33:22 (conveniently left out of my English translation published by Penguin....an appalling omission), 9:111, 9:122, etc.
For you to state that Jihad is simply an inner struggle leads me to believe that you have not read the Koran, at best, or that you are purposely misleading others, at worst.
@ThisIDig on the contrary. it's YOU who have chosen to listen to nothing BUT the Qur'an. if you were to check the prophet Muhammed's teachings as well, you'd realise that Jihad can be done in many ways. physically, by going to war when an Islamic country is fighting enemies of the religion, financially if not physically, or intellectually, by teaching those not of the religion, about it, as i'm doing.
the Qur'an without the Sunna, is what results in the terrorists we all know and hate.
@RPGTKingpin I commend your writing and your tone in general. An honest discussion on religion far too often results in overemotional dialogue. That said, I still must press the matter. The quotes I've provided are not taken out of context. I have not read all of the Islamic scriptures, but I've read enough to know that jihad endorses violence and, in many cases, defends terrorist activity. A video of Bin Laden showed him quoting the Hadith after 9/11.
@ThisIDig hmm....point me to the hadith again, please. seems Youtube must've eaten it or something :-\
what we're taught in school is that Jihad is, in essence, working in God's name. in fact, Jihad is a branch off of the word Juhd, which means effort. making an effort to serve god. now, that can be done in many ways. militarily by protecting Islam from harm via military service in an Islamic nation's army,
@ThisIDig financially, via donating money to the cause. donating it to help solve the poverty problem, for example, or, if we were to take examples from the time, to feed the poor and help better equip the soldiers to defend Islamic towns and cities from invasion. or via knowledge. spreading knowledge of Islam so that people better understand the fact that it strives for peace whenever possible. to educate people about it so people don't attack them due to our [mankind's] xenophobic nature
@ThisIDig agreed, too many people get overly emotional with their argument. not long ago i was debating with someone else. he was determined to try to make me [and Islam generally] look bad, but had gone about it the wrong way. ignored valid points. calling them stupid. insulting me. all sorts of things. he really was unpleasant to debate with. i mean sure, i don't mind debating, but if you're so desperate for an edge that you go as far as to insult me, you've practically told me i've won...
@RPGTKingpin:if that is true, pls show some evidence that someone in a debate isulted u personally, just making those claims means NOTHING! BTW. dont you think the video here should be shown unedited so ppl could judge for them selfs who has the better points. Dont you think is is totally wrong to present a biased & corrupted video clip and expect ppl just blindly believe the outcome without knowing ALL the details? Inconsistance is a sign of a failed argument! Go figure!
@SupernaturalXtreme 1) I was being general with the insulting part. and i don't mean personal as in me. i mean insulting an entire religion. regardless of opinion, you should keep your debate clear of insults. i don't take people who insult the subject they debate about seriously.
2) my debates were by that point unrelated to the video. whatever the case of the video, my debate was outside it's context.
@RPGTKingpin: you are running from the subject. I mean seriously, how hard is it, to bring forth some facts, than let me examine them and proof you wrong, but no, you explain how you meant things etc. I know exactly what you meant, but I cant agree with lies, so if you want to convince smart ppl, you have to bring forth HARD evidence and not edited video clips and general whatever! u r inconsistant. Inconsistancy is a clear sgn of a failed argument. go figure that one out!
@SupernaturalXtreme running from what subject, exactly? the way i see it you're accusing me of something because of your lack of understanding. and i am very consistent when addressed in one point. when you talk to me about multiple points, i will respond to each point individually. if you want to call that inconsistency, then don't be insulted if i call you narrow minded.
@SupernaturalXtreme furthermore, i don't even bother to consider Walid Shoebat seriously. he is a proven fake. i have already mentioned, either here or elsewhere, that even his verses of the Qur'an, quoted in Arabic, his supposed mother language, wrongly.
@RPGTKingpin: Again, if you think walid is a fraud, bring forth PROOF, you cant just say that he is a proofen fake, you have to bring forth evidence, but you dont have any, thats why you make it seam it is already proofen so u dont have to come up with actual evidence. Further,. if you dont take Walid seriously, why even bother to slender his name. U r the LIAR here. u try to lead ppl astray and if u continue with that it is not going to look good on the end. so, bring evidence, or stop!
@SupernaturalXtreme 1) You are swiftly entering the range of people who insult others when they fail their debate. I have already mentioned i don't deal with people like that seriously.
2) I will name the proof that i know of thus far. there is obviously more judging by what i gather from other people who agree with my opinion, but that, i'll leave to them, if they see fit
@SupernaturalXtreme 1) The Qur'an's verses are extremely specific in wording. a single letter, hell, even a change of tone while SAYING said letter, can change the meaning entirely. Walid Shoebat has repeatedly quoted the Qur'an wrongly. mistakes in simple verses that even Primary School students know by heart. that refutes the possibility of him being a born and raised muslim, unless he was raised somewhere where the Qur'an was taught wrongly. that, i cannot comment on.
@RPGTKingpin: That is not true, the tone variation is important if you speak cantonese, but not arabic. My friend usama's mother language is arabic, told me too that walid is for real, he even could tell that he is from palestine by the accent. Walid is real! About quran, what does that mean:"Inna Allaha wamala-ikatahu yusalloona AAala alnnabiyyi ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo salloo AAalayhi wasallimoo tasleeman"? dont go to yusufali, he mistranslates, go to a arab he'll tell u what it means.
@SupernaturalXtreme oh trust me, it is important. please don't try and tell me about my own language. i read the Qur'an and i know for a fact tone matters. the Arabic language is extremely complex. the detail on letters is vital to pronouncing it correctly.
as for the verse, please provide it in arabic. a transliteration like this opens up an enormous gateway to mistranslation...give me the Arabic verse and i'll give you the meaning to the best of my ability...
@RPGTKingpin: You did not answer my question! here again what does that mean?:"Inna Allaha wamala-ikatahu yusalloona AAala alnnabiyyi ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo salloo AAalayhi wasallimoo tasleeman"? since you probably do not speak arabic, only 30% of muslims speak arabic, the rest only imitate the sound and dont even know what it is about! However, the arabic sentence you were unable to translate means: "allah and hs angles PRAYS upon mohammad...." Allah prays? What kind of god is it?
@SupernaturalXtreme While i speak and read Arabic as well as i do English [Being Arab myself], my knowledge isn't enough that i can explain the actual meanings of specific words, said words being old and long since losing actual use in the language. i have plenty of books in my Study explaining verses of the Qur'an, so if yougive me the Sura and Aya number, i'd investigate and give you the precise meaning of it within a few days. but if you can't, i'm afraid i can't give you the meaning...
@RPGTKingpin: You are saying you cant really understand the quran, even though you speak arabic, right? Lets imagin thats true and that because of that, all the ppl misunderstand the quran wrong and all the killings, rapings, robbings, tortureings in the name of islam are based on pure misunderstaning, would it not be better to bann the the quran than? According to u, nobody really understands the quran, it does do any good, but killing millions of ppl, lets just destroy it than, right?
@RPGTKingpin: u say that it is difficultto understand the quran, I said lets destroy it than, but what if the quran easy to understand & u simply trying to deceive me? Howeveer, the quran is easy to understand, because of the fact there r tons of sirah literature & commentary from ppl at mohammads time as well as commentaries from well respected scholars and iman's. using the islamic bboks like that, anybody can understand the violent evil islamic teachings, so everbody study the islamic books!
@RPGTKingpin: I will not provide it in arabic, I want the viewers here to see & understand whats going on, you can go yourself to the arabic quran if you even able to read it. You are practicing taqijja & kitman depends what group you belong to. mohammad exalts himself upon allah. At any mosque you can read allah + mohammad at the same height, the same font size and that is SHIRK. muslims are blaspheme the real God which is Jehova, aka Hashem, aka the name, aka the mighty one! u nr the kuffir!
@SupernaturalXtreme have you ever read that line? La Illaha Illa-Allah. Muhammed Rasool Allah. Translation: There is no god but Allah. And Muhammed is Allah's messenger. very clear that Muhammed is his messenger. nothing more, nothing less. Muhammed doesn't exalt himself upon God. it's your failed perception [or your denial to admit fact] that makes you believe such. Also, do not assume that Arabic is the same as English
@RPGTKingpin: Thats the whole problem with islam, on the declaration of faith it says mohammad is his prophet thats it, but on other parts it says that allah and his angles pray upon mohammad and that means mohammad exalted himself above allah, further more since when does allah pray to moham. and if not to mohammad to whom than, ur quran is contradictive. btw. why not say, there is no god but god, why does it have to be allah, if allah means god, than no god bu god should be okay, right?
@SupernaturalXtreme As for the verse, give me the Sura, and number of the Aya, and i'll read it and give you the translation. You can hardly expect me to read an entire book searching for a verse as short as that
@RPGTKingpin: For what sura do you need the verse? pls let me know and i even post it here, several translations, including the uncenzored one if you like. I just need to know what you mean, I meantioned several things here, so pls let me know, thanx.
@SupernaturalXtreme 2) Walid Shoebat's story has changed with the years. there are videos right here on Youtube [in fact, i think that it's in the related videos panel. UPDATE!!! Walid "The Fraud" Shoebat further exposed. i believe that's the one i'm talking about] showing how his telling of the story changed over the years. inconsistencies and contradictions that are so drastic it'd be impossible for it to be true in the first place.
@RPGTKingpin: walids story has not changed, in matterof fact I did some research on it and his story is true, he proofed his identity several times to different jurnalist form left wing as well as from the right wing, walid is real, so why dont you give it up or bring some REAL evidence in stead of repeating ur false accusations. if u can proof walid is a complete fake as you claim, i personally appologize, until then he is NOT a fake! SO, BRING EVIDENCE!
@SupernaturalXtreme Give me this research you made and show me it. because the way i see it, the proof i see there is undeniable, and yours are just CLAIMS of research proving the opposite. i see no actual proof you did any research at all. and as i said, he's made grave mistakes when quoting the Qur'an. mistakes not even muslim CHILDREN make. if he is supposedly born and raised a muslim, and changed afterwards, it would be absolutely impossible for him to forget it. explain THAT inconsistency.
@RPGTKingpin: What research? I said I know the quran better than you do, I dont need research for that, the quran is a very simple book, it is confusing yes, but it is far from rocket sience. the quran is not well presered, it is perverted, parts lost. aishas goat eat part of it, the quran is a disgrace. I dont even want to talk about the hadith, this twisted porn, up to eating Sh+t and drinking urin, the boys who dont bleed (omg). I know all ur little muslim secrets and I will expose all of it!
@SupernaturalXtreme eating shit and drinking urine?...please tell me you're joking. i can't believe my eyes. if that's the standard of the information you're gathering, please cease this conversation now before my respect for our debate plummets through the floor. go educate yourself before you speak to me again. flaming Islam and falsifying facts because you can't find any more information to support your accusations simply goes beyond the level of immaturity i thought possible for this debate.
@RPGTKingpin: about the nasty stuff, I am sorry it does not come from me, it is from the hadith. one guy literaly drinks mohammads blood and mhammad said that this man is bless thru his blood, thats blasphemic, that makes mohammad god. u again atacked me, because i post the truth, so I have no other choice but to quote ur ownislamic books, just dont blame me what it is written in those books, blame allah, mohamad and his followers back then.
@SupernaturalXtreme a mistake as grave as that is enough to completely change the meaning and subject of the verse. and considering he claims he was formerly a terrorist, he's supposedly an extremist, meaning if he's gonna use verses to justify himself, he will quote correctly. the fact he quoted it wrongly is only one fragment amongst hundreds proving his entire identity is false. he was never an extremist. he never tried to bomb a bank. and chances are, he only does what he does for the money.
@RPGTKingpin: what are you suggesting here? I just should believe what you are saying without a lick of evidence and based on this biased video clip. If walid shoebat is a fraud, why dont u bring hard evidence instead of repeating ur false claims as if it would become true if you just repeat it long enough. I wonder why this dabete is edited, in matter of fact I dont really wonder, it is bisaed because muslims r so desperate that they need to do that, walid is right above all doubts. go figure!
@SupernaturalXtreme again, i have long left the video clip itself. i am not including it in my debate. it's you who insists on pulling it back and ranting it's biased. i am not using it BECAUSE there is a chance some valuable info is missing, for or against Walid Shoebat.
and no, My 'claims' aren't false. they are very true. it's just sad that people are gullible enough to fall for that imposter's trickery.
@SupernaturalXtreme muslims are hardly desperate. we know where we stand. we know we're right in our stance. and we are saddened that so many people assume that because some extremists start targetting non muslims, that immediately translates to Islam = terrorism. please, consider your accusations before you blurt them out. it only makes you look like a fool. i have respect for people who debate with me until they resort to insults. after that, i ignore them because they're obviously immature.
@RPGTKingpin: as muslims you dont know where you stand, you dont even have a guarantee to go to heaven. Mohammad said he dont know if hes going to heaven, the only sure way to heaven for muslims is to die by killing infidels to help spread islam. with the 1st drop of blood all ur sins are forgiven and u even become like god and bring salvation to 17 members of ur family. A man beome like God, thats shirk / blasphemy.
@SupernaturalXtreme Wait...what? Where on earth are you getting this? 1) Muhammed says he wasn't guaranteed to go to heaven in order to drive muslims to follow their prayers more seriously. there are numerous ways to go to heaven. the following of Islam's orders, prayers, zakat, fasting in Ramadhan, Haj, good deeds in general, they ALL must be done in order to give the person a place in heaven. Jihad is actually NOT a must. Plus, as i said, Jihad has many different forms. not just fighting
@RPGTKingpin: you do not know your stuff. Mohammad was ask by women whos boy died at a funural if her boy would go to heaven, mohammad answered, only allah knows, I dont even know if I go to heaven. AGAIN you have got to learn your Ilsma better, I am thought at least you know at least a little bit of your faith! Every muslims has to go to hell 1st, the only sure way of salvation is to die killing infidels, AGAIN read ur Bokks!
@SupernaturalXtreme the one sure way to go to heaven directly is to die in Islam's defense. hell, if someone shot me while i was responding to you i might end up bypassing hell [no guarantee. but a possibility, since i am essencially doing Jihad right now]. every person goes to hell first. muslim or not. to cleanse them of sins. after that, God's followers go to heaven. those who dont believe in him, or have commited the most major sins [murder and suicide, to name a couple] remain there forever
@RPGTKingpin: it is true what ur a saying, the only sure way to paradise for a muslim is dying in defending islam, but you forgot to tell the rest of the story, I guess I have to do it. Islam needs always defnese as long as the world is in the house or war. so terroist who kill innocent ppl are in fact defending islam, because the fact that non-muslims obvious rejecting islam is offesive to muslims accoring islamic literature and teaching, so muslim get a free licens to kill = mohammad 007!
@SupernaturalXtreme "because the fact that non-muslims obvious rejecting islam is offesive to muslims accoring islamic literature and teaching"
no. Islam doesn't force it's religion on others. it gives the choice. they can reject it and refuse to follow it without consequence. extremists however, have perverted their belief, hence the bombings [the bombings themselves condemn them to hell. mass murder is unforgivable in Islam. they will burn in the deepest pits of hell forever]
@SupernaturalXtreme Islam needs defense so long as non Islamic factions attack it militarily. so, for example, if Israel [yes. i'm bringing that topic up] were to hit the Palestinians again, [hell from the first time. not just now] with weapons, the rest of the Islamic nations SHOULD have moved in and retaliated in full force. do to them what they did to the Palestinians.
@RPGTKingpin:Islam need to "defend" itself until the entire world submits to allah & sharia law will become the law of the entire world, thats from ur own islamic literature, its actually direct from the quran. that way muslims have always an excuse to attack anyone. islam always spread thru viloence & it would never stop, therefore someone needs to stop it, because the majoity of the world population does NOT agree withislamic teachings at all, ther will be a great war never before seen!
@SupernaturalXtreme anyone? no. Islam, as a standard, spread the religion through example. Muslims in other communities. people learn of Islam through them, learn of the practices and teachings and so on, and convert if they wish. if not, that's their choice, so long as they do not actively attack Muslims. when they DO, that's when Islamic countries are given the right to retaliate.
get an accent analyst on this monkey Walid Shoebat - as one I will tell you this is the worst acting I've ever seen. He speaks English like an American trying to play the role of Arab. This guy has lived in the states since he was 16 - why is he trying to sound like he's a fresh off the boat convert?.. pathetic.
faithbrigade 3 months ago
Hey you muslim scum, why all those cuts and edits on walids speech? Are you afraid? You are scared to death that the truth will come out and the ppl in the west will see the muslim lies and the true evil intention of islam. But the west is waking very fast up and it will crush islam once and for all and i will be there watching it. islam promotes slavery, rape, torutre and murder and it will suffer its own evil deeds! Fuck mohammed, fuck islam and fuck you muslim lies!
SupernaturalXtreme 3 months ago
the debate is not complete so we cannot determine who won.
raptors1100 6 months ago
@raptors1100: very strange, there are a lot of cuts and edits on Walids speech, this video is biased, but it still shows that Shoebat has a lot of valid points and 18,000 islamic terror attacks since 9/11 speaks volumes. islam is not a religion of peace, it is a religion of hate, darkness and down to ground evil. They should idg out mohammeds bones if they can find it and hack it into pieces and burn the rest, nuke mekka and end the whole evil game!
SupernaturalXtreme 3 months ago
The film clip has been edited at 5:33 and 6:53. Why?
Verumnondominatus 8 months ago
Salaam, just curious - what DID happen at 5:35, if you don't mind me asking?
AlHasashinBattousai 8 months ago
tell me wot happened at 5:35 when walitell me wot happened at 5:35 when walid quotes the talmud ? you wontd quotes the talmud ? you wonttell me wot happened at 5:35 when walid quotes the talmud ? you wonttell me wot happened at 5:35 when walid quotes the talmud ? you wont
dieseluvin 9 months ago
Islam is not a peaceful religion, but an evil form of government... a cult like
process that indoctrinates masses in unison in order to convert them to
become seekers of salvation by DEATH in order to establish an Islamic
theocracy where sharia law takes over all laws of society in which Islam &
Muslims are Dominant and non-muslims are Subservient.
BackInTheGarden 10 months ago
@BackInTheGarden I agree. Watching this made me convinced with Walid. The debate "results" looks like they're lying because the crowds here doesn't want to agree with him and laugh at them with the "response" to make it look they're lying and they're not telling the truth.
tm2cruz 8 months ago
He is exaggerating his accent. This dude has an American mom and was born a US citizen, and he admits his mom was an American. His father obviously once lived in the U.S., and he had no problem marrying an American woman. Sometimes if you listen to him he doesn't have such a thick accent.
QUINTUSMAXIMUS 10 months ago
why the other ppl are not allowed to talk?!!!!!!!!
nounlook 11 months ago
shoebat rules!
KOLOTOLZ 11 months ago
Walid Shoebot is right on. His message is good and right. Listen to what he is saying, compare it to what the Muslims believe, teach and do. Fundamental Islamists want to kill this guy. Why don't fundamental Christians want to kill people who rail against Christianity? It's because their kingdom is not of this world.
deluzente 11 months ago 7
@deluzente KKK ring a bell?
Kimikimer 11 months ago
@deluzente: you are exactly right. is it not strange how walids speech is edited a lot and his truth still rings through? those muslim scums can do nothing against the truth ad soon they will fall prey to their own lies and evil deeds, i cant wait to see them going down. but hopefully some of them will see the light.
SupernaturalXtreme 3 months ago
lol this guy walid is a joke. Who would take him seriously? dumb christians
gosillygirl 11 months ago
Please talk science and technology to relief humanity on pimitivity. And not trival issues of Religion
ipadibi 1 year ago
Notice how the muslim women have only right to speak when they are deffending muhhamed! But have no right to wear what they want lol If she were to speak of her rights as a women, the muslims would stone her to death! Notice also how the muslim section is all paralized and shaking the whole time! Is it the truth that makes them scared and afraid? heheh how blinded muslims are!
ainanor 1 year ago
We can tell also that this video has been altered to distort the audio quality and make it difficult to hear the words of Walid Shoebat.
The author of this video needs sabotage to win the debate with viewers. A very sad man. It is deceitful.
The truth will prevail.
DAILEYericCaryUSA 1 year ago
The obvious editing of this video is deceptive and the animated graphic of Shoebats' name is abusive and disgusting. The videos author shows bad character.
If Shoebat is a lair or wrong why then does he so upset some Muslims?
DAILEYericCaryUSA 1 year ago
Lol all the Kaffirs here are making me chuckle how they NEVER qoute from the Qur'an.
Its so clear how walid shoebat, nonie darwish, wafa sultan, that hirsee girl so many fake ex Muslims lol its clear but some idiots will never see.
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jayezzo 1 year ago
i would advise the muslims to not curse since cursing is haram in islam.
dinelislam112 1 year ago
Shoebat shows what sort of idiot and racist he is when he mocks Indians by speaking with that accent. The only reason he did that was to get a few laughs. So not only is he a habitual liar who is licking the back side of Zionism, but he is also a first class clown.
Imadeyourun 1 year ago 8
@Imadeyourun: Fuck you and fuck you again you stupid piece of shit! Shoebat himself has an accent and it is okay to make fun of ones accent. but you humorless islamic cockroch would not understand it. You raping, murdering piece of filth, the day will come when you have no where to go but to sudden destruction and i will be there to witness! BTW did ypu rape a 9 year old girl today, you fucking pervert? U muslim scum make me sick. Fuck you, you islamic mook!
SupernaturalXtreme 3 months ago
@SupernaturalXtreme: WOW, there's a lot of hate in your comment! And an excessive of obscenities too! I'm guessing your not of the intelligent variety. I will be waiting for you too, just don't pee your panties when that time comes. ;)
Imadeyourun 3 months ago
@Imadeyourun: Hate? No I am soley angry. But you are typical thug, instead of dealing with my points u go straught to the emotional level, u attack me personally, how samrt is that?! Everybody with some brain can see what u r doing, u do not address any of my points & attack me personally, ur gaol is clear: to silence any critic on islam, why? afarid of the truth? btw I cant wait to see u in person, I am not even a bit afarid of u take ur best shot you filthy twat. btw mohammed was a bitch!
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@SupernaturalXtreme: " Fuck you and fuck you again you stupid piece of shit!" And "Fuck you, you islamic mook!". Now tell me, oh not so bright one. Who started the personal attacks first? And yes, your words are full of hate, hate and fear. You are such shallow and obtuse little individual, aren't you?
Imadeyourun 3 months ago
THIS ZOINIST COCKSUCKER WALID SHOEBAT IS ANOTHER ISLAMIC / MUSLIMS BASHER...
U CAN SMELL THE SHIT COMING OUT OF HIS MOUTH THIS MOTHERFUCKER DESERVES NO HUMAN SYMPATHY AT ALL
82shahin 1 year ago
@82shahin I can feel your stinky smell of mouth full of islamic garbage!
ainanor 1 year ago
@82shahin Would you like to kill him?
Shabutie97 10 months ago
read nonie darwish's
cruel and usual punishment: isbn: 5516111595
catveezle 1 year ago
Such hate is such weakness. I wish before someone follows a certain propaganda or belief they would search in its "unbiased" content, what it teaches in morals and values.
Its sad that this world rarely has any real peaceful ppl. Just because someone is born in something and uses it to act like a jerk and selectively uses its scriptures to justify there corrupt means to an end doesn't make them right, ethical, or what they claim: Jewish, Christian or Muslim.
nhwar 1 year ago
@nhwar agreed.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
no defeat to a soul that can hear the truth allah is the great deceiver alright .show me everthing you cut out ....
wazzysbabygirl 1 year ago
no defeat to a soul that can hear the truth allah is the great deceiver alright .
wazzysbabygirl 1 year ago
worst audio ever... You'd think that Oxford could aford a mic that works..
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damian77777 1 year ago
Walid Shoe Bat...and he is a shoe and a bat plus a liar, ignorant and a fool. I have seen liars but never like this shoe guy.
MARZOOGI 1 year ago
why is the video so heavily edited ???!?!?!? why not post te entire video ? this makes me think that the person posting this has something to hide.
luistico76 1 year ago
Baloney
lenasvn 1 year ago
can anyone pls tell me whereto get the entire video without being cencured, please!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
Walid is right and it is strange everytime its gets interesting there is a drop out in the video. post the entire video, without any drop outs and in better quality so everybody can make ones own mind instaed of getting misguided by this manipulized video!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago 7
@SupernaturalXtreme
In all fairness, he has other videos that go along with the same script he uses here.
I recommend you look into his history as well, he literally made up his whole background.
From being a "former terrorist" to attempting to blow up that "bank" he spoke of.
It was one thing before when Non-Muslims use to debate, with an Arab background ( like Anis Sharrosh ) they never claimed to be something they aren't.
Today, you have people like Walid, making up lies flat out...
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI: u say "in all fairness", but yet u r not fair. Walid is for real & in order to convince me and everybody else it is not so, u have no other choice but to present real evidene. It is NOT enough that you say walid is not real and watch other videos to find out etc. I 100% belive walid & if u oppose, u r are the one to bring forth the evidence against him, just like in court. Ergo; as long as u have NO evidence that he is not who he says he is, I believe him & other do too!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme
I said in all fairness then stating you can find what he states in other videos with him.
As for what is enough, then that's your problem. Makes no sense to repeat what is already done.
Type "Walid Shoebat Exposed & Refuted"
Not you nor' I are in court, it's youtube, learn the difference.
The following Egyptian shows how he took things out of context by telling the "complete" verses, how is Walid right here?
Walid & Nonnie make $ off of the others ignorance...
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI: u said: "Not you nor' I are in court, it's youtube, learn the difference." The principal of somebody is innocent until ones guilt is proofen does not only goes for the court room, the entire western society is based on that principal, therfore if sombody is accused of faking ones identity the accuser, in this case u, has to bring forth proof for that accusation until this is not done, the accused is innocent! maybe u should learn that principal.
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme
I actually do know the principal ( being from America myself ), hence why I provided the "evidence" for the "case" put forth.
Now, be serious.
It actually isn't "Nuts" when you put things in perspective.
He is living comfortably under the umbrella of the evangelical right, giving lectures, etc.
You'd be surprised what people would do for a $
You don't have to look very far but within our own "western culture" to see that, if you would just open your eyes a little more.
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI: now u say you now the principal of one being innocent until ines guilt is proofen, but just minutes ago you did not ally those prinipals on this particular case. interestingly inconsitsant. inconsistance is a clear sign of a failed argument! u strongest argument that walid is a fraud is that: "You'd be surprised what people would do for a $" thats your proof? This is no proof at all, walid could have made more money by spreading islam financed by saudi arabia. like Faisel Rauf!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme
lol, You are clearly playing with words now and trying to throw off the topic.
My proof was within the video I linked you to but you didn't want to see it. Instead you go off that one sentence I stated as a general one for those who sell themselves for $ and why.
Walid couldn't have done that because Faisal was working under Bush when no one knew who Walid was.
Now, if you are going to try to prove a negative, then drop this conversation...
ITheProfessorI 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI: dont u dare accuse me of something I never did! I was very clear with my words,no playimg around. why is it that ppl like u always accuse others of what u r guilty of? dont answer that pls. so far u have not brought forth any proof, but assumptions and blade accusations, thats all. U wiggeling like a wurm in the mud, but before u get hostile, I'm not saying that u r a wurm, u r a human being with dignity, but pls behaive with some dignity than too. God bless you.
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI: you accuse that walid makes money out of the ignorance of others, now how much money do you think they make. I dont know it eitherm but I know Walid has family and he also loves life, therfore it is just nuts to say that Walid would risk his & his family's life to sell some books & make money by getting invited in some churches. His muslimside of family has cut him off, he actually lost his property in bethlehem. ur claim make no sense whatsoever. Walid is for real, periode!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI: btw. dispite the fact whether walid is realor not, I double checked his cliams, I checked out muslims sources galore, tons of material and whatever I looked at, the claims walid makes are true, so what muslims should worry more about walid identiy is that walid clearly exposed islam as false, no matter how u put it, islam has lost its face: the only way ppl become muslims is because they do not know the whole truth about islam, if they would, they never become muslims.
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@ITheProfessorI: you do not have repect for anthing, because you spread stuff you cannot proof. so, if you are right bring forth some real evidence that walid is a fake. but you dont have any proof, so shut up about it! PS. if you have real proof, i would even apologize to you, but again u dont have any proof!
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tryingtobegood1 1 year ago
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Does anyone ask why this man, Walid Shoebat, a man who admits to placing a bomb near an Israeli bank branch in Bethlehem is walking free in America, and not in jail, or in Gunatanamo Bay?
Why...because he is a liar and a fake.
Nur1947 1 year ago
Okay i have been living in muslim countries for the last 24 years and i was never feed hatered by the spoon !!! no offense this lady difenitly has been throught quite a bad experinece because she is the one carrying so much hatred, she actually reminded me of the middle ages when the burnt 200000 women claiminig that their witches,!!! i guess this is what they said to encourage the masses before the burning stage (absolute rage blinded by hatered) why!!!!!
gandaloupful 1 year ago
@gandaloupful Thanks for the comments ... Salam.
alphamain 1 year ago
The one good thing that came from Islam is Achmed the Terrorist =) 'I kill you!'
MrHawklan 1 year ago
whatever they said or do would never made islam disappear from the world it would just increase more faith to islam.ALLAH is the best planner .SO to all muslim brothers and sister hold on to your faith.WEare still the best of all religion.
Yashsultan 1 year ago
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the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
ohadaab 1 year ago
Fadel is just a fat f-ck. He almost having a heart attack trying so hard. Jus because ppl clap don't mean your right
jalontube56 1 year ago
@jalontube56 Fadel is loved by Jesus. Pray he doesn't have a heart attack before he meets him. Walid and Nonie were right when they gave their report, John 3:16 - 20 says it all!
pandabear1960 1 year ago
@pandabear1960 thanx i needed to read that. God bless. i wish fadel would view this video and realize that hes not making any sense, and the ppl clap at stupid things he says. walid told him how to pernounce his name right, fadel says "i dont care", how rude and imature. plus the ppl laugh and clap to this??? wow
jalontube56 1 year ago
@jalontube56 Agree with you guys this video should be Walib and Nonie making Fadel look stupid. His rebutales doesn't make any sense. Hope many Moslems can find the truth before it is too late.
1brandwag 1 year ago
@jalontube56 i hope fadel believes the truth before its to late
jalontube56 1 year ago
Walid was living under Israeli occupation, but he complaining of Sharia law which does not govern !!!!! how is that work ?????!!!
fajralislam72 2 years ago 2
because he did not live under direct civil Israeli occupation, which does'nt exist there (Jewish civilians dont go inside the west bank or or in to gaza strip !!) bethlehem, is (like the rest of the west bank and gaza strip) been Civilian governed by the the local administration!, all the education under this territories is being structured by the Palestinian authority (which in its turn is based on the old Jordanian system) and mostly funded by forgien money- which effects it also.
ohadaab 1 year ago
the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
ohadaab 1 year ago
@fajralislam72: the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
ohadaab 1 year ago
@ohadaab
man !! Where do you live !!
Listen carefully : I will surround your home,and i will then claimed that you are free.. !! how is that ?
fajralislam72 1 year ago
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@fajralislam72 the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
ohadaab 1 year ago
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the Palestinians are not civiliantly governed by Israel!! no Jewish person can enter in the west bank and the gaza strip! therefor the education in this territories is been programed by the Palestinian authority administration, there the sharia is the most prominent law system.
ohadaab 1 year ago
My previous reaction is aimed to terceira73.
mocroroosje18 2 years ago
Walid Shoebat destroyed them all. Go Walid goooo may Jesus Christ bless you
ihabhs 2 years ago
what are you , an idiot ?? didn't you see Fadel CRUSHING waleed ?
fuck that ! Jesus has nothing to do with that traitor who sold out his people for cash !
Tchado1000 2 years ago
are you a retard ?walid got his ass handed over to him by fadel xD
devilsown18 2 years ago 2
I honestly pray for muslims that they see the truth. I do not hate them and I hope they see that christ is the lord of all.
ThePackman4 2 years ago
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1-Where in the bible did Jesus claim to be god?
2-Where in the bible did Jesus ask to be worshipped?
3-Where did Jesus say I am God Manifested in flesh?
4-Where did Jesus mention the original sin?
5-Where did Jesus say I am God the Son?
6-Where did Jesus say that I am God the Word?
7-Where did Jesus say I am the Second God in Trinity?
23focus24 2 years ago
I pray that you see the truth that christ isnt god and there is only one god not three or three in one. And I dont hate you too
aceone1988 2 years ago 2
I found muhammed in the bible! jesus said they would b many false prophets(muhammed) and they would deceive many(muslims). Wake up ! Its so obivious.
Terceira73 2 years ago
Terceira73 u mean Saul who became Paul !?
23focus24 2 years ago
im a witness of jesus christ who has the power to create this world . bible is truth , deceived r the muslims. froms gods witness.
Terceira73 2 years ago
And why not jesus said " they would b MANY -REPEAT MANY (HE SAID)- false prophets(WO WROTE THE BIBLE BY THEIR HAND AND EXPLAINED IT BY THEIR WISH) and they would deceive many(Christians). "
You wake up...it is so obvious.
jesus said "prophetSSS" and we don't beleive in a prophet after Jesus except Muhammed and no prophets after him
you r expaining bible as u wish
egelbird 2 years ago
listen u r not that smart . i am a witness of jesus christ . i know the color of his spirit, heis voice, and power . jesus christ SHOWED ME he has the powa to create the world. he told me these words.
I am here
I am with u
i will never leave u
where eva u go i walk with u
I love u i love u i love u
I am always with u
I love u i love u
he took all my stress worries etc love and peace cannot be described in words. I could hardly stay in my body i felt my spirit wanting to walk to him.
Terceira73 2 years ago
I am not too smart to do/say what? I am talking to u by logic and u r telling me a dream of your's? even your dreams; anyone can say these words to anyone!
I looked to your religon once and said to my self "they may be right, why not?" but by looking to trinity & making Jesus a god, it is completly non-logic where this is the door to christianity, and when christians critisize Islam they critisize the branches of the branches which is even when analized and investigated it is just lies
egelbird 2 years ago
the bible is full of the jewish prophets which he said were real prophets. your muhammed came after. he is a false prophet , satans plan b after he lost at the cross. Btw there r not 70+ virgins waiting for u , heaven is a spiritual place not a whore house. the only whore house is down below where satan resides.
Terceira73 2 years ago
Mark 3:22-27
22. And the teachers of the law who came down from Jerusalem said, "He is possessed by Beelzebub! By the prince of demons he is driving out demons." 23. So Jesus called them and spoke to them in parables: "How can Satan drive out Satan? 24. If a kingdom is divided against itself, that kingdom cannot stand. 25. If a house is divided against itself, that house cannot stand. 26. And if Satan opposes himself and is divided, he cannot stand; his end has come.
Quran from God NOT Satan!
J888HNT 2 years ago
some people here need to go to a dictionary and learn the definition to witness. i am a witness of jesus christ he showed me he has the power to create this world that is showin me he is god. i said with my inner voice in 1 day u created this world and he was listening and with the love he showed me he knew that i was calling him god and he kept pouring his love and peeace which words cannot describe. jesus lord and god from witnes wake up . satan appeared to muhamed cuz he lost at the cross.
Terceira73 2 years ago
is jesus god or son of god?or is jesus a messiah or a son of man?if jesus is god then who did he worship?if jesus is god himself then why didnt he save himself from his crucifixion?did ur god die on the cross??can a GOD DIE ON A CROSS??
devilsown18 2 years ago 2
easy to answer god is the father . ask your self can a father die for a child. doesnt a father love the child enough to die for him or her. jesus is lord and jesus is god . i am his witness. all muslims will mourn on the day of judgment and fake jews.allah is not god. jesus showed me he is so allah is not god. who is allah? I know, do u?
Terceira73 2 years ago
so jesus is god as well ryte?then as a god who did he worship to?if jesus didnt dieon the cross thne did the father/god die in his place?
devilsown18 2 years ago
if jesus is gods son or gods themselves,then i guess abraham,noah,moses,david,solomon ,adam etc they must also be gods son or gods themselves right?
devilsown18 2 years ago
jesus is lord and god.I stood with him not u or some whom u mention. moses is the only one who saw the same power as i did u can barely survive it. the power of creation u can barely stand in it and jesus is begotten son . u can be can a child of god if u do his will but there is only one begotten son.i said with my inner voice which is the same voice i called him told him In one day lord u created this earth . jesus told me I love u , I am always with u . now he knows me till the day i die.
Terceira73 2 years ago
You need to see a mental doctor.
angrytiger2004 2 years ago 3
lol . nope u need to see one. i perfectly sane my friend and jesus exists and he is lord and god.
Terceira73 2 years ago
@Terceira73 where did jesus said i am god ???
TheCoolmuslim 2 years ago 2
when he showed me teh power to create this world in one day.the power cannot be described with words u can try but you'll never know how awesome it is unles s your there. jesus has all the power. that day was the best day of my life, if the world knew what they have for a god they would live in peace.
Terceira73 2 years ago
ur confusing??????
mademan4life 1 year ago
@Terceira73 read ur point, becuase u r confusing yourself, Islam is the only true religion, search for urself, bcoz u dnt wnt 2 be regretting, on the of judgement. and be careful what u say about Allah swt, read the Qur'an and you'll find clearly the answers. peace
mademan4life 1 year ago
@mademan4life Allha is the father of lies
oldbaldy123 1 year ago
@oldbaldy123 ha ha,, learn hw to spell u spastic
mademan4life 1 year ago
We muslims aso believe in all prophets that are mentioned in the new and old testament. The koran has a whole chapter about maria. And jesus pbuh is mentioned more times then the prophet mohammed in the koran. In the koran you will never find prophets being name called. While in the bible and the old testament prophets are called names. For example in the old testament maria is called a whore. Such things about prophets you will never find because the koran is Gods word untouched.
mocroroosje18 2 years ago 2
He never said that there would be no prophet after him. He never said he is the last pophet. Ergo there will come a true prophet. He did not only talk about false prophets but also about true prophet and how you can distinguish between a true and a false prophet. Ergo how you can recognise a true prophet. Read more about his words about how you can recognise a true pophet. Maybe the puzzle will then fit together. Good luck.
mocroroosje18 2 years ago 7
@mocroroosje18 referring to Muhammed, yes he did say he was the last of the prophets. as for identifying prophets, there were several things identifying him as a prophet. the first and most obvious is the Qur'an. the ultimate form of the Arabic language, and a book written with such perfection that no writer ever since has been able to challenge it. [and we're talking about the most self critical language ever. speakers of the Arabic language were known for extreme literary precision]
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@mocroroosje18 for the Qur'an to come in the hands of a man who could not read or write, that was a miracle. it was physically impossible for him to have written it. nor would another man [because for a person to write something as perfect as the Qur'an, they would have to be THE greatest Arabic writer of all time. in a land where it was something of great pride to be a writer or poet of the language, there is no way a man who wrote something like that wouldn't turn up eventually.]
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@mocroroosje18 then there was the birthmark present on all of God's Messengers. unfortunately that can't be used as a relevent argument because i have no material, undeniable proof of it, like a picture.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
Fuck that ugly, fake-as nigger Walid Shiebat...
He been exposed in those ways!
ado10 2 years ago
God bless you Walid Shoebat. For the truth is in the belief of Jesus Christ our Lord and Savior.
hardcandy777 2 years ago
Concept of God in Christianity: Drunk, thieve, Regret, Gets tired, forgets, fear, defeated, apologize, cursed, shame, fool, disgrace, Bear, Lamb (sheep), warm, Lioness, like chicken, die, Naked, wears woman dress, where is Greatness of your God don't you use your brain!?, open your book and ask for evidence for anything mentioned about your God in the Bible,You Welcome
23focus24 2 years ago
[*HINT* the answer IS islam ]
kgshahid2 2 years ago
I guess aparently World War I and World War II, which accounted for a third of all the estimated deaths of people in war in recorded history was done by muslims as well. Is that what you are saying???
See this is just one of the reasons I have to support my claim.
ua1001 2 years ago 3
Apparently some claim that the west appears to be supporting peace and democracy. That's the biggest Bullshit I've ever heard.
The West supported Dictators like Saddam Hussein and the Shah against their own people. Our Secretary of "Defense" IS THE FUCKING FOUNDER OF AL QAEDA.
Does it not occur to you that the reason we are hated in the middle east may have something to do with our foreign policy rather than religion (be it Islam or anything else)or are you just buying propaganda like mostdo
ua1001 2 years ago 2
Have you forgotten that 800,000 civilians were killed in Iraq or is that one of the other fact on the "suppress" list of Propaganda filled Faux Noise that you get your information from???
People often ask me, where are the moderate muslims that condemn terror. I respond that I am one, and then simply ask this.
WHERE ARE THE SO-CALLED MODERATES THAT CONDEMNED THE IRAQ WAR, ABU GHRAIB, GUANTANAMO, DEPORTATION OF INNOCENTS THROUGH THE PATRIOT ACT, AND THE LIST GOES ONE.
ua1001 2 years ago 2
@ua1001 You must not own a television or computer. The Iraq war is still debated, Abu Ghraib is condemned (and people found guilty), guantanamo is misunderstood, and the list goes on. "Moderates" exist throughout the western world. What is not tolerated is the innocent slaughter of civilians by terrorists. Who is responsible for the multitude of deaths? It is the religion of death: Islam. Whether it is fighting factions, or suicide bombings - car bombs, militia, etc. Wake up.
ThisIDig 1 year ago 2
@ThisIDig incorrect. the ones responsible for the deaths are those who misunderstand the Qur'an, and who ignore the prophet muhammed's teachings [which, in their own right, are vital to the completion of the religion. his teachings are the explanation, the supplement that completes Islam. you can't have one without the other]. those people are the ones who become terrorists
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin “Kinana had been guardian of the tribe's treasures, and he was brought before the apostle, who asked where they were hidden. But Kinana refused to disclose the place. The apostle of Allah handed him over to al-Zubayr, saying, 'Torture him until he tells what he knows', and al-Zubayr kindled a fire on his chest so that he almost expired; then the apostle gave him to Muhammad b. Maslama, who struck off his head.” (Sirat Rasul Allah)
No other way to interpret torture and murder.
ThisIDig 1 year ago
@ThisIDig this, in particular, i want your source of. in Islamic culture there are Strong Quotes and Weak Quotes, named so depending on how dependable they are...
the fire part in particular intrigues me. because of all the things in Islam, fire in particular is forbidden from use as a weapon. 'The only one who punishes with fire is Allah'. namely though hell. so to use it as a weapon is forbidden. please give me your source...
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin The quoted passage comes directly from the chapter on the conquest of Khaybar in the Sirat Rasul Allah.
ThisIDig 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin "Narrated Anas bin Malik: 'On the day of the Conquest, the Prophet entered Mecca, wearing a helmet on his head. When he took it off, a man came and said, "Ibn Khatal is clinging to the curtain of the Ka'ba." The Prophet said, "Kill him."'" (Hadith Sahih al-Bukhari Vol. 5, Book 59, No. 582)
ThisIDig 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin "Narrated Abu Huraira: 'The Prophet said, "The person who participates in (holy battles) in Allah's cause and nothing compels him to do so except belief in Allah and His Apostles, will be recompensed by Allah either with a reward or booty (if he survives) or will be admitted to Paradise (if he is killed in the battle as a martyr)."'"(Hadith al-Bukhari Vol 1, Bk 2, #35)
Mohammed did some things that were very honorable, but these quotes (and others) show him clearly as a militant.
ThisIDig 1 year ago
@ThisIDig participation here is not restricted to the military sense, contrary to what you think. in fact, let me give you an example. you know that one word that everyone's afraid of these days? "Jihad"? well, what if i were to tell you that, now, as i'm speaking to you, am doing Jihad? by educating others on the points of view of Muslims and Islam generally, i am fighting ignorance about the religion, and therefore fighting in God's name. do you see anything blowing up? i think not.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin Regarding Jihad, please see the following verses of the Koran: 2:216, 4:95, 33:22 (conveniently left out of my English translation published by Penguin....an appalling omission), 9:111, 9:122, etc.
For you to state that Jihad is simply an inner struggle leads me to believe that you have not read the Koran, at best, or that you are purposely misleading others, at worst.
ThisIDig 1 year ago
@ThisIDig on the contrary. it's YOU who have chosen to listen to nothing BUT the Qur'an. if you were to check the prophet Muhammed's teachings as well, you'd realise that Jihad can be done in many ways. physically, by going to war when an Islamic country is fighting enemies of the religion, financially if not physically, or intellectually, by teaching those not of the religion, about it, as i'm doing.
the Qur'an without the Sunna, is what results in the terrorists we all know and hate.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin I commend your writing and your tone in general. An honest discussion on religion far too often results in overemotional dialogue. That said, I still must press the matter. The quotes I've provided are not taken out of context. I have not read all of the Islamic scriptures, but I've read enough to know that jihad endorses violence and, in many cases, defends terrorist activity. A video of Bin Laden showed him quoting the Hadith after 9/11.
ThisIDig 1 year ago
@ThisIDig hmm....point me to the hadith again, please. seems Youtube must've eaten it or something :-\
what we're taught in school is that Jihad is, in essence, working in God's name. in fact, Jihad is a branch off of the word Juhd, which means effort. making an effort to serve god. now, that can be done in many ways. militarily by protecting Islam from harm via military service in an Islamic nation's army,
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@ThisIDig financially, via donating money to the cause. donating it to help solve the poverty problem, for example, or, if we were to take examples from the time, to feed the poor and help better equip the soldiers to defend Islamic towns and cities from invasion. or via knowledge. spreading knowledge of Islam so that people better understand the fact that it strives for peace whenever possible. to educate people about it so people don't attack them due to our [mankind's] xenophobic nature
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@ThisIDig agreed, too many people get overly emotional with their argument. not long ago i was debating with someone else. he was determined to try to make me [and Islam generally] look bad, but had gone about it the wrong way. ignored valid points. calling them stupid. insulting me. all sorts of things. he really was unpleasant to debate with. i mean sure, i don't mind debating, but if you're so desperate for an edge that you go as far as to insult me, you've practically told me i've won...
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin:if that is true, pls show some evidence that someone in a debate isulted u personally, just making those claims means NOTHING! BTW. dont you think the video here should be shown unedited so ppl could judge for them selfs who has the better points. Dont you think is is totally wrong to present a biased & corrupted video clip and expect ppl just blindly believe the outcome without knowing ALL the details? Inconsistance is a sign of a failed argument! Go figure!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme 1) I was being general with the insulting part. and i don't mean personal as in me. i mean insulting an entire religion. regardless of opinion, you should keep your debate clear of insults. i don't take people who insult the subject they debate about seriously.
2) my debates were by that point unrelated to the video. whatever the case of the video, my debate was outside it's context.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: you are running from the subject. I mean seriously, how hard is it, to bring forth some facts, than let me examine them and proof you wrong, but no, you explain how you meant things etc. I know exactly what you meant, but I cant agree with lies, so if you want to convince smart ppl, you have to bring forth HARD evidence and not edited video clips and general whatever! u r inconsistant. Inconsistancy is a clear sgn of a failed argument. go figure that one out!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme running from what subject, exactly? the way i see it you're accusing me of something because of your lack of understanding. and i am very consistent when addressed in one point. when you talk to me about multiple points, i will respond to each point individually. if you want to call that inconsistency, then don't be insulted if i call you narrow minded.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme furthermore, i don't even bother to consider Walid Shoebat seriously. he is a proven fake. i have already mentioned, either here or elsewhere, that even his verses of the Qur'an, quoted in Arabic, his supposed mother language, wrongly.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: Again, if you think walid is a fraud, bring forth PROOF, you cant just say that he is a proofen fake, you have to bring forth evidence, but you dont have any, thats why you make it seam it is already proofen so u dont have to come up with actual evidence. Further,. if you dont take Walid seriously, why even bother to slender his name. U r the LIAR here. u try to lead ppl astray and if u continue with that it is not going to look good on the end. so, bring evidence, or stop!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme 1) You are swiftly entering the range of people who insult others when they fail their debate. I have already mentioned i don't deal with people like that seriously.
2) I will name the proof that i know of thus far. there is obviously more judging by what i gather from other people who agree with my opinion, but that, i'll leave to them, if they see fit
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme 1) The Qur'an's verses are extremely specific in wording. a single letter, hell, even a change of tone while SAYING said letter, can change the meaning entirely. Walid Shoebat has repeatedly quoted the Qur'an wrongly. mistakes in simple verses that even Primary School students know by heart. that refutes the possibility of him being a born and raised muslim, unless he was raised somewhere where the Qur'an was taught wrongly. that, i cannot comment on.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: That is not true, the tone variation is important if you speak cantonese, but not arabic. My friend usama's mother language is arabic, told me too that walid is for real, he even could tell that he is from palestine by the accent. Walid is real! About quran, what does that mean:"Inna Allaha wamala-ikatahu yusalloona AAala alnnabiyyi ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo salloo AAalayhi wasallimoo tasleeman"? dont go to yusufali, he mistranslates, go to a arab he'll tell u what it means.
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme oh trust me, it is important. please don't try and tell me about my own language. i read the Qur'an and i know for a fact tone matters. the Arabic language is extremely complex. the detail on letters is vital to pronouncing it correctly.
as for the verse, please provide it in arabic. a transliteration like this opens up an enormous gateway to mistranslation...give me the Arabic verse and i'll give you the meaning to the best of my ability...
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: You did not answer my question! here again what does that mean?:"Inna Allaha wamala-ikatahu yusalloona AAala alnnabiyyi ya ayyuha allatheena amanoo salloo AAalayhi wasallimoo tasleeman"? since you probably do not speak arabic, only 30% of muslims speak arabic, the rest only imitate the sound and dont even know what it is about! However, the arabic sentence you were unable to translate means: "allah and hs angles PRAYS upon mohammad...." Allah prays? What kind of god is it?
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
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RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme While i speak and read Arabic as well as i do English [Being Arab myself], my knowledge isn't enough that i can explain the actual meanings of specific words, said words being old and long since losing actual use in the language. i have plenty of books in my Study explaining verses of the Qur'an, so if yougive me the Sura and Aya number, i'd investigate and give you the precise meaning of it within a few days. but if you can't, i'm afraid i can't give you the meaning...
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: You are saying you cant really understand the quran, even though you speak arabic, right? Lets imagin thats true and that because of that, all the ppl misunderstand the quran wrong and all the killings, rapings, robbings, tortureings in the name of islam are based on pure misunderstaning, would it not be better to bann the the quran than? According to u, nobody really understands the quran, it does do any good, but killing millions of ppl, lets just destroy it than, right?
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: u say that it is difficultto understand the quran, I said lets destroy it than, but what if the quran easy to understand & u simply trying to deceive me? Howeveer, the quran is easy to understand, because of the fact there r tons of sirah literature & commentary from ppl at mohammads time as well as commentaries from well respected scholars and iman's. using the islamic bboks like that, anybody can understand the violent evil islamic teachings, so everbody study the islamic books!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: I will not provide it in arabic, I want the viewers here to see & understand whats going on, you can go yourself to the arabic quran if you even able to read it. You are practicing taqijja & kitman depends what group you belong to. mohammad exalts himself upon allah. At any mosque you can read allah + mohammad at the same height, the same font size and that is SHIRK. muslims are blaspheme the real God which is Jehova, aka Hashem, aka the name, aka the mighty one! u nr the kuffir!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme have you ever read that line? La Illaha Illa-Allah. Muhammed Rasool Allah. Translation: There is no god but Allah. And Muhammed is Allah's messenger. very clear that Muhammed is his messenger. nothing more, nothing less. Muhammed doesn't exalt himself upon God. it's your failed perception [or your denial to admit fact] that makes you believe such. Also, do not assume that Arabic is the same as English
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: Thats the whole problem with islam, on the declaration of faith it says mohammad is his prophet thats it, but on other parts it says that allah and his angles pray upon mohammad and that means mohammad exalted himself above allah, further more since when does allah pray to moham. and if not to mohammad to whom than, ur quran is contradictive. btw. why not say, there is no god but god, why does it have to be allah, if allah means god, than no god bu god should be okay, right?
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme As for the verse, give me the Sura, and number of the Aya, and i'll read it and give you the translation. You can hardly expect me to read an entire book searching for a verse as short as that
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: For what sura do you need the verse? pls let me know and i even post it here, several translations, including the uncenzored one if you like. I just need to know what you mean, I meantioned several things here, so pls let me know, thanx.
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme 2) Walid Shoebat's story has changed with the years. there are videos right here on Youtube [in fact, i think that it's in the related videos panel. UPDATE!!! Walid "The Fraud" Shoebat further exposed. i believe that's the one i'm talking about] showing how his telling of the story changed over the years. inconsistencies and contradictions that are so drastic it'd be impossible for it to be true in the first place.
there are likely more, but those are what i know.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: walids story has not changed, in matterof fact I did some research on it and his story is true, he proofed his identity several times to different jurnalist form left wing as well as from the right wing, walid is real, so why dont you give it up or bring some REAL evidence in stead of repeating ur false accusations. if u can proof walid is a complete fake as you claim, i personally appologize, until then he is NOT a fake! SO, BRING EVIDENCE!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme Give me this research you made and show me it. because the way i see it, the proof i see there is undeniable, and yours are just CLAIMS of research proving the opposite. i see no actual proof you did any research at all. and as i said, he's made grave mistakes when quoting the Qur'an. mistakes not even muslim CHILDREN make. if he is supposedly born and raised a muslim, and changed afterwards, it would be absolutely impossible for him to forget it. explain THAT inconsistency.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: What research? I said I know the quran better than you do, I dont need research for that, the quran is a very simple book, it is confusing yes, but it is far from rocket sience. the quran is not well presered, it is perverted, parts lost. aishas goat eat part of it, the quran is a disgrace. I dont even want to talk about the hadith, this twisted porn, up to eating Sh+t and drinking urin, the boys who dont bleed (omg). I know all ur little muslim secrets and I will expose all of it!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme eating shit and drinking urine?...please tell me you're joking. i can't believe my eyes. if that's the standard of the information you're gathering, please cease this conversation now before my respect for our debate plummets through the floor. go educate yourself before you speak to me again. flaming Islam and falsifying facts because you can't find any more information to support your accusations simply goes beyond the level of immaturity i thought possible for this debate.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: about the nasty stuff, I am sorry it does not come from me, it is from the hadith. one guy literaly drinks mohammads blood and mhammad said that this man is bless thru his blood, thats blasphemic, that makes mohammad god. u again atacked me, because i post the truth, so I have no other choice but to quote ur ownislamic books, just dont blame me what it is written in those books, blame allah, mohamad and his followers back then.
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme a mistake as grave as that is enough to completely change the meaning and subject of the verse. and considering he claims he was formerly a terrorist, he's supposedly an extremist, meaning if he's gonna use verses to justify himself, he will quote correctly. the fact he quoted it wrongly is only one fragment amongst hundreds proving his entire identity is false. he was never an extremist. he never tried to bomb a bank. and chances are, he only does what he does for the money.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: what are you suggesting here? I just should believe what you are saying without a lick of evidence and based on this biased video clip. If walid shoebat is a fraud, why dont u bring hard evidence instead of repeating ur false claims as if it would become true if you just repeat it long enough. I wonder why this dabete is edited, in matter of fact I dont really wonder, it is bisaed because muslims r so desperate that they need to do that, walid is right above all doubts. go figure!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme again, i have long left the video clip itself. i am not including it in my debate. it's you who insists on pulling it back and ranting it's biased. i am not using it BECAUSE there is a chance some valuable info is missing, for or against Walid Shoebat.
and no, My 'claims' aren't false. they are very true. it's just sad that people are gullible enough to fall for that imposter's trickery.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme muslims are hardly desperate. we know where we stand. we know we're right in our stance. and we are saddened that so many people assume that because some extremists start targetting non muslims, that immediately translates to Islam = terrorism. please, consider your accusations before you blurt them out. it only makes you look like a fool. i have respect for people who debate with me until they resort to insults. after that, i ignore them because they're obviously immature.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: as muslims you dont know where you stand, you dont even have a guarantee to go to heaven. Mohammad said he dont know if hes going to heaven, the only sure way to heaven for muslims is to die by killing infidels to help spread islam. with the 1st drop of blood all ur sins are forgiven and u even become like god and bring salvation to 17 members of ur family. A man beome like God, thats shirk / blasphemy.
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme Wait...what? Where on earth are you getting this? 1) Muhammed says he wasn't guaranteed to go to heaven in order to drive muslims to follow their prayers more seriously. there are numerous ways to go to heaven. the following of Islam's orders, prayers, zakat, fasting in Ramadhan, Haj, good deeds in general, they ALL must be done in order to give the person a place in heaven. Jihad is actually NOT a must. Plus, as i said, Jihad has many different forms. not just fighting
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: you do not know your stuff. Mohammad was ask by women whos boy died at a funural if her boy would go to heaven, mohammad answered, only allah knows, I dont even know if I go to heaven. AGAIN you have got to learn your Ilsma better, I am thought at least you know at least a little bit of your faith! Every muslims has to go to hell 1st, the only sure way of salvation is to die killing infidels, AGAIN read ur Bokks!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme the one sure way to go to heaven directly is to die in Islam's defense. hell, if someone shot me while i was responding to you i might end up bypassing hell [no guarantee. but a possibility, since i am essencially doing Jihad right now]. every person goes to hell first. muslim or not. to cleanse them of sins. after that, God's followers go to heaven. those who dont believe in him, or have commited the most major sins [murder and suicide, to name a couple] remain there forever
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin: it is true what ur a saying, the only sure way to paradise for a muslim is dying in defending islam, but you forgot to tell the rest of the story, I guess I have to do it. Islam needs always defnese as long as the world is in the house or war. so terroist who kill innocent ppl are in fact defending islam, because the fact that non-muslims obvious rejecting islam is offesive to muslims accoring islamic literature and teaching, so muslim get a free licens to kill = mohammad 007!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme "because the fact that non-muslims obvious rejecting islam is offesive to muslims accoring islamic literature and teaching"
no. Islam doesn't force it's religion on others. it gives the choice. they can reject it and refuse to follow it without consequence. extremists however, have perverted their belief, hence the bombings [the bombings themselves condemn them to hell. mass murder is unforgivable in Islam. they will burn in the deepest pits of hell forever]
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme Islam needs defense so long as non Islamic factions attack it militarily. so, for example, if Israel [yes. i'm bringing that topic up] were to hit the Palestinians again, [hell from the first time. not just now] with weapons, the rest of the Islamic nations SHOULD have moved in and retaliated in full force. do to them what they did to the Palestinians.
RPGTKingpin 1 year ago
@RPGTKingpin:Islam need to "defend" itself until the entire world submits to allah & sharia law will become the law of the entire world, thats from ur own islamic literature, its actually direct from the quran. that way muslims have always an excuse to attack anyone. islam always spread thru viloence & it would never stop, therefore someone needs to stop it, because the majoity of the world population does NOT agree withislamic teachings at all, ther will be a great war never before seen!
SupernaturalXtreme 1 year ago
@SupernaturalXtreme anyone? no. Islam, as a standard, spread the religion through example. Muslims in other communities. people learn of Islam through them, learn of the practices and teachings and so on, and convert if they wish. if not, that's their choice, so long as they do not actively attack Muslims. when they DO, that's when Islamic countries are given the right to retaliate.
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