I want to do the same here in my country.. so, anyone may help me? the most importante is, WHY the people and the Black Blocks start do attack cops and stuff? what is the reason for that? they try to repress the protests? because, if you just start attack them it would be considered free vandalism, don't? then the people wouldn't support the attacks.. and we now that without support is impossible to make revolution! i think so...
Please answer me, i need to now what began the violent protests.
Basic salary of 490 euro. For the youth (people under 25) salary of 440 euro. Unemployment benefit of 350 euro. Milk costs 1,20 and bread almost 1 euro. How can we survive? Today it is Greece, but tomorrow will be Italy, Spain, Portugal or USA. Don't let this terror spread.
@JonTurks7 excuse me but are you retarded.The country you call terrorist has given the Olympics to the world,It even gave education,have some respect moron :P
Hello Greece, here is Poland. Firtable I just want to say that even I don't know whole situation in your country ( I just know about crisis, debts protests and euros, but nothing more ) Im on your side. Well, me - teenage girl means nothing in comparison to whole Europe. But I want you to know that many people are on your side, I know that those debts arent yours Greek, but banks , and now you have to suffer. So good luck Greece. I hope you will be ok !
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I was actually in Athens this summer, when all the riots were going on. I never felt like I was in any danger for a moment. During a lull in the riots we went into Syntagma square and struck up a conversation with some of the protesters who were camping out there. It was really interesting hearing what they had to say first hand. It made the whole thing a lot more human. Just because it's had some rough times, doesn't make Greece any less magnificent.
im going to Greece in the spring on a school trip. People keep asking if im worried about what is going on there, like it should make me not want to go. i say no, im too fuckin excited to see a beautiful country that has been my dream to go to since i was little.
i hope things get better for you Greece. Maybe us here in America will actually stand up like you guys are, cuz i know a lot of us want to and need to.
@ericssson Are you stupid or what.We gave you democracy,philosophy,maths,drama,olympics.Take a look in wikipedia and u will learn that Greece is the crandle of Western civilasation.Actually the word EUROPE is from the Greek mythology.Get educated moron and after comment.Stupid
Seriously, while everyone argues, points fingers, "votes for a change", the government fat cats are dividing up their share of laundered money including, "International Money Gifts" (which DON'T have to be declared on taxes, & insider trading deals (Congress is EXEMPTED from prosecution for that)& are laughing all the way to the bank...Good grief, WAKE UP - Gov't corruption is not just in Greece or America either...
Greece always goes hard. Considering Anarchy and Democracy (and most other forms of government) originated their, it's understandable. We need this type of dedication on Wall Street. Maybe then there will be a proper protest. The NYPD couldn't handle this.
Greece's debt in compare with other european countries and even USA is the 1/20 AT LEAST! ... Germans got debt 1 ,000,000,000,000 and we only have some 360,000,000,000! Go fuck yourself if you blaming Greeks and call us lazies ..We just got dumb goverment! We are all hardworking asses!
@jokey95123 - Well in Greece are living 11 million people and in germany 83 million. Now do the maths my friend. The credit party is over - welcome in the reality.
@mishaal3000 The Greeks have the right idea.. Not like here in America. Can you see the difference? In America on Wall St. the police have the protestors blocked off.. Whereas in Greece it seems that the protestors have the police backing off and cornered.Now of course I may be wrong in what I'm seeing in this video but it seems as if the protestors are not curling up into little balls at the sight of the police like we do here in the U.S. Perhaps we can learn from them.
@legacy917 Greeks have always protested , for any changes in the system .
For years now , and we will continue to do so . I however have never taken part in any protest cause I know what will happen.Anarchists appear out of nowhere to cause the scenes you see. It is anarchists that give Greek protesters a bad name . It is not right to burn and loot on other peoples property .It is not right to KILL their lives and source of income like that.I love my country but anarchy will get us nowhere good.
Could you people stop blaming us? Blame the government and the EU... I am a greek 21 year old university student, live by myself far from home and i only get 200 euros per month for my own expenses...some days i even dont have money to eat...Greece is manipulated in every possible way...id rather starve than stay in this "united" EU...there is no world...
It's more than a economic crisis it's a Govern Mental ponzie scam problem. In simple words a moral problem be their prostitutes or else ending all free markets
Great case study of why socialism is failing Greece. Government economics works on a balance principle. In order to feed a resource-intensive socialist government, the economy needs to be strong. People in Greece aren't willing to adapt to a down economy and that is a nail in the coffin for Greek prosperity. Socialism causes people to become complacent, and citizens to rely upon services and benefits always being there for them. Unfortunately, economies don't work that way. People need to adapt.
ALL of the fucking media are corrupted!!!. Every damn GREEK people always is protesting peacefully, the ppl throwing rocks and molotof are ALWAYS provocateurs, a group of 200 ppl that are payed or smth else, in order to make the protest look like o hooliga protest....Don't fucking beleive everything the piece of shit media say. All the media owners are wealthy bussiness men that want to control the crowd and the money
The people of Greek are like little kids. They keep wanting more and more money from the govt even when the govt doesn't have any. When they don't get what they want, they riot in the streets and attack their police men. Budget cuts have to be made for Greece to ever get out of this hole they've dug. It would be a lot easier if the people of Greek acknowledged this instead of throwing a fit every time their govt tried to balance the budget.
Why is greece so utterly stupid? A group of construction workers could do better for the economy than the Greece goverment... And why are the Greece people so stupid? Protests literally do nothing... there's no point for them whatsoever and they cost Greece millions of euros.
Go Greece Go stand against the nwo stand against the evil bankers where is the proof Greece owes this amount of money the IMF is full of lucifer cock suckers 'REMEMBER
FU Greece, you lazy bastard. Do you guys know that 40% of Greek do not pay their income taxes. Do you know that some of the towns in Greek have the highest density in Porsche car ownership? Do you know that unemployment insurance in Greece pays more than a regular salary?
Man how the fuck does Greece fuck itself up so badly? They have great weather, a wonderful culture and plenty of awesome history, amazing food and yet they still find a way to mess their country all up and put themselves on the brink of bankruptcy >_>
If they aren't willing to take the bailout, kick them out of the EU and let them declare bankruptcy and go from there
I wish and hope Greece overcome this hard time. Greeks have been engulfed by the world economic crisis created by greed of the world financial community, stupid politicians from major countries, which should be better classified as international crooks. This is not just a Greek problem but a worldwide problem.
You can`t blame anyone but the greeks itself for their mess. They are addicted to overspending, they don`t pay taxes and are one of the most corrupted countrys in Europe. For years they gave faked statistics and even after this comes into light they continued lying about their financial situation. They want wealth and social stability like the scandinavian countrys, but they run their country like a third world banana republic. Should we threw our money in this black hole - NO !!!
@MrKatzengreis People are not to be blamed. There's no wrong to want wealth, better life. Everybody deserves. Any doubt politicians are stupids and have hidden agenda? Politicians forfeit statistics, lies. Scandinavians are in good shape at this time but things may change unexpectedly to anyone. Banana republics exist because of centuries of exploitation by today richer countries. Everybody is responsible for everybody. The world is one, nevertheless many of us think is not.
There are more Porsche Cayennes registered in Greece than taxpayers declaring an income of 50,000 euros (£43,800) or more, according to research by Professor Herakles Polemarchakis, former head of the Greek prime minister’s economic department.
"And if only the people of the cities had believed and feared Allah , We would have opened upon them blessings from the heaven and the earth; but they denied [the messengers], so We seized them for what they were earning."
at least the greeks are protesting something. the occupy wall street, occupy los angeles and the rest of the greaseballs here in the u.s. they are doing thier protests are complaining about 12 or 14 different things. no real organization with these fools. my daughter and her idiot wanna be hippy friends went to these protests in los angeles, its not what it appears on t.v. to the greek people out there, what would constitute a victory for your side?
What a damn shame.......This is due to Goldman Sachs (who else?) cooking the books.....Never forget the politicians are just the crooked salesmen for the big players......International financiers A.K.A. The Banksters.
@suedeheadize Haha you're funny...does your police actually even carry guns?BTW, what do you think would be accomplished by throwing rocks and molotov cocktails at police anyway?Especially in America? You think that our government would all of a sudden say..OK here's your power back. We'll end our empire now.You win. Right.Maybe a country as powerful as say, Greece may do that...but not America. Fuck no. HAHA your police aren't even doing anything.Ours would be shooting us as they have been.
not to mention the numbers for a violent uprising would have to at least be the majority of the American people,and would in the end,only cause unnecessary causalities.Cause yes,if this happened in America, people would fucking die.You call this progressive action?I call it noise.Although good for the spirit,and it really shows the unity of your country(something America does not have right now thanks in part to media) in the end what have you actually achieved?Have solutions even been proposed?
@suedeheadize the people of Greece you see rioting are pathetic fools, slobbering scum, and a disgrace to humanity. When their gov't tries to balance the budget to get them out of their debt hole, the people of Greek throw a fit like kids, attacking and killing their own police. Any person in Europe who's affected by the Euro is disgusted these Greek lower than dirt scum. You, as an Aussie, I wouldn't an expect an Aussie to know much but even you should know better
Maybe your zionist controlled government should dispatch their military fodder to invade the people of Greece and screw them too, thats something most in the world have come to expect from the only country that's been so preoccupied and engaged in wars everywhere for decades, along it's zionist bedmate and lover, isreal.
But then again Syria and Iran are next on the agenda.
@suedeheadize I can't even say what I want in agreement with you, for fear that as an American it is quite possible that every word I type is being monitored! Pretty ironic I know, that I am in agreement with you, but I am also the fearful pussy that you speak of.. But I can say this: Americans are also getting sick of this shit ! I can imagine that it is not too much longer before we start seeing the protests here become just as violent. We need a worldwide REVOLUTION!
@MigrantBrute i hope the hole world follow us.but most of all i hope ppl of my country dont vote pasok or nea dimokratia again (the political parties that RAPED are economy)
I have a lot of respect for the people of Greece standing up to the oligarchs that control their government.
You must continue to say no to the banks and the puppet government. If you allow the banks to seize your sovereignty through fraudulent legal means, the banks will in fact, own the land of your ancestors. Once that is accomplished, you must either agree to slavery or you will be jailed or thrown out for trespassing.
Refuse to pay blackmail money to the banks, let them collapse.
piece of shit country. ugly stupid greek bitches. nuke this god damn place. greetings from israel where people actually work for their money rather than begging you poor bastards.
@RasnaZaMan : Our people invented civilization you fucking idiot pussy of a man. Learn your history first before you speak big words you moron. Israel caused the 10 year fucking WAR in America. You don't want to make the peace with anyone. People have woken up. THey know what propaganda means now, so go fuck yourself in your little ISraeli hole and shut your fucking dirty cunt hole of a mouth before I find you and rip out your spleen with my hand!
@RasnaZaMan Bitch is your mother and you the bastard, so piece of shit stfu or you will se your nuke at your ass!!!! About how you work there, i think you cant speak for greeks as this damn place exist B.C, and not founded 1948 to have Hebrews a place, ofcourse away from "germany"!!!! Fucking noob
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Soon Human Labour will be the Global commodity and all will labour in return for the Labour credits granted solely by the State. Hopefully Greece will exile all connected to in any way within the government these Central Banks and the bankers. Leave the E.U and set an example for all others to follow. Currency has no value, only Human Labour has value. Let all currency go the way of all failed inventions and country's.
the world uprising is going to cause a global social breakdown and a complete collapse of all government and currency world wide thus resulting in a global currency and then a world government. we're fucked.
First austerity, then violence, then fascism. Let's hope the Greek people don't get another U.S. backed right-wing government, like in 1965, with plenty of state terror.
@HFMarko Stupid is the opposite of smart right? So we are the opposite of you guys, right? So your characterization is subjective right? Equality on the other hand is not subjective right? And equality can only be used to describe the purpose of our struggles and not yours, right (unless the mainstream americans' fights for the poor and misfortunate escape me) ? Then since we agree to set this standard...i am a proud STUPID indeed
@HFMarko Considering the current OWS movements spreading to every major city in the US I hope you are not an American like myself cuz if you are by your logic we are both stupid, All Americans Are Stupid, USA is stupid, OUR NATION IS STUPID! I would have to disagree with you cuz see I believe in America. Though I would agree that American politics are stupid, what this country stands for is not. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness is not stupid! FREEDOM IS NOT STUPID! Just because crony
@HFMarko We may be stupid as you say, while you are the smart developed citizen of another country, but your attitude doesn't reflect that...You are a manipulated entity that endorses whatever you are hearing and you can't support your points as you can't speak with arguments and you lack clues
Fucking Americans are wasting our times with some shit OWS do it like real patriots red necks...u silly media-controlled pussies ... -.- plzz take out the media first bitches
Greeks got more BALLS! guess history tells all... then the peaceful shit scared AMERICANS with their "peaceful protests" getting their dignity stomped by the police
Even germans support you Greece. Our fucking governments want to spread hatred between our people. But we love our fighting brothers in Greece, Spain, Italy and so on. Soon we'll join your struggle. Down with Merkel, Sarkozy and Papandreu. Hail to the european people!
Brain dead protesters. Get the names of the most corrupt ppl in the country and go and protest at their homes not against police who do their jobs just so they can provide to the family.
No protest has ever affected the real ppl who rule. Go to their homes instead of killing pregnant women.
@sias2020 The foreign media also doesn't tell all the truth. Because i am Greek civilian and i saw what happened in the protests, i can tell some untold facts. This whole massive strike/protest did happened as a circumstance of the new tax/measures law .As always it meant to be a peaceful protest without blood.But 200-300 anarchist(which may be paid to do that by the "parastate" ) So next you need to see the thing from inside and not superficially. Half milionprotested peacefull.Not 300 anarchi
Greece is the first nation who have the courage to attack the nwo. The resist of the Greece nation against the new corrupt system is a model and example for all nations in the world. Turks in solidarity with the Greek citizen !
Attack nwo and banksters, fuck facsim, fight against the real enemy and exterminate nwo !
If the Greek government listen to these protesters they could ruin the futures of the majority of Greeks who realize that hard work will achieve stability
50,000 or even 100,000 out of the millions of Greeks in Athens does not convince me that most Greeks don't want these reforms and to get back to a better life with their countries finances improving. The only people who are protesting are the public employees who have more to lose with their gold plated pensions paid at 58 while private workers have to continue for many more years after and have never had the guarantee of a long term job.
beautiful back round in Greece. see that shit, it belongs to the people. not the government. run for you lives pigs. you and who your protecting and going down.
@Katatha75 Learn to spell you greek horse.I just proved my point.Do greeks still stop working at 12;00pm to go home and sleep? Greece has become the joke of europe.I dont see riots in the French riviera.
@AntiNacos100 Britain worked for her wealth Greece is a non coutry full of lazy fuckers Greece should have defaulted like a central american state. But no EUSSR Federalist demand she stays in Euro
@ukipwarrior They may seem "lazy" but are frankly sensible, people in scorching hot countries can't work like dogs, and with the wages they get now why would they? They have a different approach to life, a different culture - this should be reflected in a weaker currency as it was in the past - Brits worked hard for a stronger currency and holidays on the cheap in places like Greece, which benifited from our spending. The Greeks are different but our cousins - I love Europe but the EU is vile!!
@AntiNacos100 NOT JEALOUS OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PAY THEIR BILLS BECAUSE THEY ENJOY SLEEPING IN THE MIDDLE OF A WORK DAY. YOUR COUNTRY IS BEGGING LIKE A HOMELESS MAN AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT MY COUNTRY.I VISITED GREECE YEARS AGO AND SEEN FIRST HAND HOW LAZY GREEKS ARE.SO KEEP THROWING YOUR ROCKS AND ASKING GERMANY FOR MONEY.
@MrGuitartramp Better sleeping in the middle of a work day than to make piles of money without any kind of work, no achievement and any contribution to society its wealth at all!
@karlokater YOU KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT.THROWING ROCKS AT THE POLICE WHO ARE JUST DOING THEIR JOB WILL SOLVE NOTHING.IN A FEW DAYS YOU WILL ALL RETURN TO WORK LIKE SLAVES AND VENT YOUR ANGER AT THE WATER COOLER.
@Milos18Teodosic Soon you will live in a tree when you can't pay back Germany.Greeks are arrogant lazy bafoons.Whatever Greece did thousands of years ago is long gone.
@MrGuitartramp Why some people can't do a research (or are so stupid to understand?) Mates we are living in a world of bankers and capitalism. Taking loan to repay the alleged debt means more debt to bankers and to the elite. Afterwards means they take control of our country. This fucking system is corrupted... wake up bro and see the truth
@MrGuitartramp The fact though my friend, is that Germany owes billions to Greece(and not only Greece) after the devastating results of the military possession. Germany destroyed all the economy and the factors that could lead to a development of economy and generraly the society. Moreover i completely diassagree with you about the lazy thing...As i see you are clueless and victim of propagands.Greek people work 2120 hours while Germans ONLY 1432...So next time do your homework
The other fact, "my friend" is that Greece will reap the real rewards of so-called "progressive" social policies. Due to your envious, socialist, union/political greed your country is about to face disaster.
Say bye-bye to tourist bucks, too.
You will have NOTHING until you start working hard for a living and paying some taxes regularly - however small they are - for a change.
@CheckDare and even if you think that our country is a total distaster, i still will be proud to be greek, and fight for justice and against the rotten financial system that tricks ppl for the benefits of the few
I want to do the same here in my country.. so, anyone may help me? the most importante is, WHY the people and the Black Blocks start do attack cops and stuff? what is the reason for that? they try to repress the protests? because, if you just start attack them it would be considered free vandalism, don't? then the people wouldn't support the attacks.. and we now that without support is impossible to make revolution! i think so...
Please answer me, i need to now what began the violent protests.
Gabsvdm 1 week ago
Den ine proti fora pou ehoume krisi mpori na pari ligo kero alla ola ta provlimata tha lithon !
TheAxmet 3 weeks ago
@Chewychu31 i am greek and i rly holp that we will leave from euro !
TheAxmet 3 weeks ago
the british reported sounds annoying
SPARTAN3071 3 weeks ago
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Basic salary of 490 euro. For the youth (people under 25) salary of 440 euro. Unemployment benefit of 350 euro. Milk costs 1,20 and bread almost 1 euro. How can we survive? Today it is Greece, but tomorrow will be Italy, Spain, Portugal or USA. Don't let this terror spread.
vaburas 3 weeks ago
Hope no body dies in this clashes coz here in egypt similar situations 12 dies by the end of the day and no one is charged for them
maas2258 3 weeks ago 2
@JonTurks7 excuse me but are you retarded.The country you call terrorist has given the Olympics to the world,It even gave education,have some respect moron :P
Ferrarifazer5269 3 weeks ago
@thrilos27 I totally agree with you,Greece has done a favor to the world by giving events like the Olympics.It's time the world favors Greece.
Ferrarifazer5269 3 weeks ago 2
Hello Greece, here is Poland. Firtable I just want to say that even I don't know whole situation in your country ( I just know about crisis, debts protests and euros, but nothing more ) Im on your side. Well, me - teenage girl means nothing in comparison to whole Europe. But I want you to know that many people are on your side, I know that those debts arent yours Greek, but banks , and now you have to suffer. So good luck Greece. I hope you will be ok !
I was in Athens. Beautifull place !
fotografka1 3 weeks ago 8
@fotografka1 thank you so much...we will fight for our freedom until the end.
mostwanteddancer 3 weeks ago
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GiallorossaBrigatte 3 weeks ago
Together the ants can conquer the elephant
FaKeYoUrGoD 4 weeks ago
Iellada! Greece! Hellas!
We fully support you! Fuck EU! Love from Serbia! Brothers for ever!
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DNVRecorDs 4 weeks ago
I'm Greek and i could die for my country...Greeks will fight united until the end.THAT'S THE GREEK SPIRIT
spyros9797 1 month ago
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surrender control of your budget to the germans
you bunch of greek incompetent ass holes
ericssson 1 month ago
I was actually in Athens this summer, when all the riots were going on. I never felt like I was in any danger for a moment. During a lull in the riots we went into Syntagma square and struck up a conversation with some of the protesters who were camping out there. It was really interesting hearing what they had to say first hand. It made the whole thing a lot more human. Just because it's had some rough times, doesn't make Greece any less magnificent.
NataliaMurad1 1 month ago
im going to Greece in the spring on a school trip. People keep asking if im worried about what is going on there, like it should make me not want to go. i say no, im too fuckin excited to see a beautiful country that has been my dream to go to since i was little.
i hope things get better for you Greece. Maybe us here in America will actually stand up like you guys are, cuz i know a lot of us want to and need to.
TheMegMegs95 1 month ago
respect from Romania!
fortun1989 1 month ago 5
greece terrörist country
JonTurks7 1 month ago
If Greeks want to look for the culprit, they only need to look into a mirror.
LowApe 1 month ago
Greeks are the most corrupt mothafucker in all of europe
in fact i don't even call greece europe it's more like the middle east
ericssson 1 month ago
@ericssson Are you stupid or what.We gave you democracy,philosophy,maths,drama,olympics.Take a look in wikipedia and u will learn that Greece is the crandle of Western civilasation.Actually the word EUROPE is from the Greek mythology.Get educated moron and after comment.Stupid
thrilos27 1 month ago
@ericssson ye you are vary smart man to bad you are the only 1 who things that whay....
TheAxmet 3 weeks ago
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hope nothing horrible will take our lives away this year...
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planetearth7billion 2 months ago
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mistermime122 2 months ago
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Seriously, while everyone argues, points fingers, "votes for a change", the government fat cats are dividing up their share of laundered money including, "International Money Gifts" (which DON'T have to be declared on taxes, & insider trading deals (Congress is EXEMPTED from prosecution for that)& are laughing all the way to the bank...Good grief, WAKE UP - Gov't corruption is not just in Greece or America either...
AngelTooFar 2 months ago
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AngelTooFar 2 months ago
I blame it on NASA
freedummy1 3 months ago
greeks stop insulting others only because of their origin !
RandyFTWify 3 months ago
Greece always goes hard. Considering Anarchy and Democracy (and most other forms of government) originated their, it's understandable. We need this type of dedication on Wall Street. Maybe then there will be a proper protest. The NYPD couldn't handle this.
NorwegianGodofRock69 3 months ago
Greece's debt in compare with other european countries and even USA is the 1/20 AT LEAST! ... Germans got debt 1 ,000,000,000,000 and we only have some 360,000,000,000! Go fuck yourself if you blaming Greeks and call us lazies ..We just got dumb goverment! We are all hardworking asses!
jokey95123 3 months ago
@jokey95123 - Well in Greece are living 11 million people and in germany 83 million. Now do the maths my friend. The credit party is over - welcome in the reality.
MrKatzengreis 3 months ago
i hope the best for our beloved Greece ppl
every one in Saudi Arabia prays for u to have ur country back on track
God help u all
mishaal3000 3 months ago 32
@mishaal3000 That is greatly appreciated :) It so sad to watch my country crumble
brazilianbutterfly61 3 months ago
@mishaal3000 The Greeks have the right idea.. Not like here in America. Can you see the difference? In America on Wall St. the police have the protestors blocked off.. Whereas in Greece it seems that the protestors have the police backing off and cornered.Now of course I may be wrong in what I'm seeing in this video but it seems as if the protestors are not curling up into little balls at the sight of the police like we do here in the U.S. Perhaps we can learn from them.
legacy917 2 months ago 16
@legacy917 we are right video is the truth!!!!politicks are traitors!!!!
dimitrisatm 3 weeks ago
@legacy917 Greeks have always protested , for any changes in the system .
For years now , and we will continue to do so . I however have never taken part in any protest cause I know what will happen.Anarchists appear out of nowhere to cause the scenes you see. It is anarchists that give Greek protesters a bad name . It is not right to burn and loot on other peoples property .It is not right to KILL their lives and source of income like that.I love my country but anarchy will get us nowhere good.
Cr3ssida 2 weeks ago
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pdlp13 3 months ago
Could you people stop blaming us? Blame the government and the EU... I am a greek 21 year old university student, live by myself far from home and i only get 200 euros per month for my own expenses...some days i even dont have money to eat...Greece is manipulated in every possible way...id rather starve than stay in this "united" EU...there is no world...
floralqueen 3 months ago 2
The whole world is slipping on Greece economy.
duncan7599 3 months ago 3
Government Cuts NO - people Cuts YES
Govern Mental people do not cut government they cut their PEOPLE. Title it truthfully not with political propaganda.
GovernMentalFreedom 4 months ago
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It's more than a economic crisis it's a Govern Mental ponzie scam problem. In simple words a moral problem be their prostitutes or else ending all free markets
GovernMentalFreedom 4 months ago
Great case study of why socialism is failing Greece. Government economics works on a balance principle. In order to feed a resource-intensive socialist government, the economy needs to be strong. People in Greece aren't willing to adapt to a down economy and that is a nail in the coffin for Greek prosperity. Socialism causes people to become complacent, and citizens to rely upon services and benefits always being there for them. Unfortunately, economies don't work that way. People need to adapt.
tacomahnster 4 months ago
ALL of the fucking media are corrupted!!!. Every damn GREEK people always is protesting peacefully, the ppl throwing rocks and molotof are ALWAYS provocateurs, a group of 200 ppl that are payed or smth else, in order to make the protest look like o hooliga protest....Don't fucking beleive everything the piece of shit media say. All the media owners are wealthy bussiness men that want to control the crowd and the money
mixalissilaximmixali 4 months ago
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The people of Greek are like little kids. They keep wanting more and more money from the govt even when the govt doesn't have any. When they don't get what they want, they riot in the streets and attack their police men. Budget cuts have to be made for Greece to ever get out of this hole they've dug. It would be a lot easier if the people of Greek acknowledged this instead of throwing a fit every time their govt tried to balance the budget.
claton95 4 months ago
Ingrates. Europe liberated Greece from Turks, from the military junta, tries to save you from this crisis. And this is how Greeks pay back. Awful.
Garpalt 4 months ago 2
@Garpalt We made europe..so we do whatever the fuck we want!
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mosesmoses2000 4 months ago
DUMB GREEKS .. THEY MUST DİE..
leaanka 4 months ago
@leaanka calling dumb the wisest country in the world is dumb.
jimkamenidis 4 months ago 2
whats funny is that america is in more debt than them
WhenYourStrange93 4 months ago 4
your country is poor as shit
awsomeuser3 4 months ago
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cmanfilo 3 months ago
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TritonTutoring 4 months ago
Why is greece so utterly stupid? A group of construction workers could do better for the economy than the Greece goverment... And why are the Greece people so stupid? Protests literally do nothing... there's no point for them whatsoever and they cost Greece millions of euros.
hennu50 4 months ago 2
@hennu50 millions?you play monopoly too much.
jimkamenidis 4 months ago 2
Did you hear that? The cradle of Western Civilization is falling. Opa
alwayssmile4u66 4 months ago
double dip recession for the most unproductive shit hole in Europe
ericssson 4 months ago
Go Greece Go stand against the nwo stand against the evil bankers where is the proof Greece owes this amount of money the IMF is full of lucifer cock suckers 'REMEMBER
THIS IS SPARTA'
wesblood007 4 months ago
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FU Greece, you lazy bastard. Do you guys know that 40% of Greek do not pay their income taxes. Do you know that some of the towns in Greek have the highest density in Porsche car ownership? Do you know that unemployment insurance in Greece pays more than a regular salary?
Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh 4 months ago
Long life to Greece... in debts.
Aaaaarrrrrrggghhh 4 months ago
Man how the fuck does Greece fuck itself up so badly? They have great weather, a wonderful culture and plenty of awesome history, amazing food and yet they still find a way to mess their country all up and put themselves on the brink of bankruptcy >_>
If they aren't willing to take the bailout, kick them out of the EU and let them declare bankruptcy and go from there
JDubs878 4 months ago 2
I wish and hope Greece overcome this hard time. Greeks have been engulfed by the world economic crisis created by greed of the world financial community, stupid politicians from major countries, which should be better classified as international crooks. This is not just a Greek problem but a worldwide problem.
perlaand 4 months ago
@perlaand
You can`t blame anyone but the greeks itself for their mess. They are addicted to overspending, they don`t pay taxes and are one of the most corrupted countrys in Europe. For years they gave faked statistics and even after this comes into light they continued lying about their financial situation. They want wealth and social stability like the scandinavian countrys, but they run their country like a third world banana republic. Should we threw our money in this black hole - NO !!!
MrKatzengreis 4 months ago 2
@MrKatzengreis People are not to be blamed. There's no wrong to want wealth, better life. Everybody deserves. Any doubt politicians are stupids and have hidden agenda? Politicians forfeit statistics, lies. Scandinavians are in good shape at this time but things may change unexpectedly to anyone. Banana republics exist because of centuries of exploitation by today richer countries. Everybody is responsible for everybody. The world is one, nevertheless many of us think is not.
perlaand 4 months ago
There are more Porsche Cayennes registered in Greece than taxpayers declaring an income of 50,000 euros (£43,800) or more, according to research by Professor Herakles Polemarchakis, former head of the Greek prime minister’s economic department.
maclachj1 4 months ago 2
so funny, considering money is an imaginary number...
greencrow8 4 months ago
why no germany no pay for greece defecit?
Juands10 4 months ago
Good news today. European banks will again approve bailout for Greece. lol
I just read it in the news today.
TheIxtlan 4 months ago
Tell the IMF to fuck off!
MiniKingMusic 4 months ago
ATTENTION! The new greek anthem:" I Need A Dollar" by aloe blacc
dieantischeisse 4 months ago 3
"And if only the people of the cities had believed and feared Allah , We would have opened upon them blessings from the heaven and the earth; but they denied [the messengers], so We seized them for what they were earning."
Holly Quran
vanpersie11m 4 months ago
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@ShaneLeeX46k Of course it will...
Event762 4 months ago
at least the greeks are protesting something. the occupy wall street, occupy los angeles and the rest of the greaseballs here in the u.s. they are doing thier protests are complaining about 12 or 14 different things. no real organization with these fools. my daughter and her idiot wanna be hippy friends went to these protests in los angeles, its not what it appears on t.v. to the greek people out there, what would constitute a victory for your side?
robtheslayer 4 months ago
What a damn shame.......This is due to Goldman Sachs (who else?) cooking the books.....Never forget the politicians are just the crooked salesmen for the big players......International financiers A.K.A. The Banksters.
movement26 4 months ago
Long live great Greece. Greeting from brothers Serbs!
RelapseMan12 4 months ago
go to work or take our money back !!!!
freshtomatto 4 months ago 2
People with guts,and action,not like that american idol country .
suedeheadize 4 months ago 25
@suedeheadize Haha you're funny...does your police actually even carry guns?BTW, what do you think would be accomplished by throwing rocks and molotov cocktails at police anyway?Especially in America? You think that our government would all of a sudden say..OK here's your power back. We'll end our empire now.You win. Right.Maybe a country as powerful as say, Greece may do that...but not America. Fuck no. HAHA your police aren't even doing anything.Ours would be shooting us as they have been.
inshepherdswetrust 4 months ago 2
not to mention the numbers for a violent uprising would have to at least be the majority of the American people,and would in the end,only cause unnecessary causalities.Cause yes,if this happened in America, people would fucking die.You call this progressive action?I call it noise.Although good for the spirit,and it really shows the unity of your country(something America does not have right now thanks in part to media) in the end what have you actually achieved?Have solutions even been proposed?
inshepherdswetrust 4 months ago
@suedeheadize the people of Greece you see rioting are pathetic fools, slobbering scum, and a disgrace to humanity. When their gov't tries to balance the budget to get them out of their debt hole, the people of Greek throw a fit like kids, attacking and killing their own police. Any person in Europe who's affected by the Euro is disgusted these Greek lower than dirt scum. You, as an Aussie, I wouldn't an expect an Aussie to know much but even you should know better
claton95 4 months ago
@claton95
Maybe your zionist controlled government should dispatch their military fodder to invade the people of Greece and screw them too, thats something most in the world have come to expect from the only country that's been so preoccupied and engaged in wars everywhere for decades, along it's zionist bedmate and lover, isreal.
But then again Syria and Iran are next on the agenda.
suedeheadize 4 months ago 2
@suedeheadize you couldn't be more right...thanks :P
floralqueen 3 months ago
@suedeheadize I can't even say what I want in agreement with you, for fear that as an American it is quite possible that every word I type is being monitored! Pretty ironic I know, that I am in agreement with you, but I am also the fearful pussy that you speak of.. But I can say this: Americans are also getting sick of this shit ! I can imagine that it is not too much longer before we start seeing the protests here become just as violent. We need a worldwide REVOLUTION!
legacy917 2 months ago
when there arms get tired of throwing rocks, they will probably start building catapults.
MrAudacia 4 months ago
I see a giant grape on my screen, dressed as a TV interviewer.
zck7 4 months ago
U.S. is next with these tax cuts for the rich
MigrantBrute 4 months ago
@MigrantBrute i hope the hole world follow us.but most of all i hope ppl of my country dont vote pasok or nea dimokratia again (the political parties that RAPED are economy)
panosmel97 4 months ago
I have a lot of respect for the people of Greece standing up to the oligarchs that control their government.
You must continue to say no to the banks and the puppet government. If you allow the banks to seize your sovereignty through fraudulent legal means, the banks will in fact, own the land of your ancestors. Once that is accomplished, you must either agree to slavery or you will be jailed or thrown out for trespassing.
Refuse to pay blackmail money to the banks, let them collapse.
daveusaz1218 4 months ago
This shit will happen in the USA if the government does not change something...
420chronmasta 4 months ago
@HFMarko Pfff i thought you were smart. Sorry for disturbing you, go back to sleep
arikat1 4 months ago
sea* not see
mixalissilaximmixali 4 months ago
Everything money touches becomes corrupted
420chronmasta 4 months ago
@HFMarko Brave or Pussy with big words behind a small screen? I say PUSSY!!!
All4Sparta77 4 months ago
@HFMarko Those weren't the words from your mother when she had my cock in her mouth! She actually became smarter after she swallowed.
All4Sparta77 4 months ago
piece of shit country. ugly stupid greek bitches. nuke this god damn place. greetings from israel where people actually work for their money rather than begging you poor bastards.
RasnaZaMan 4 months ago
@RasnaZaMan : Our people invented civilization you fucking idiot pussy of a man. Learn your history first before you speak big words you moron. Israel caused the 10 year fucking WAR in America. You don't want to make the peace with anyone. People have woken up. THey know what propaganda means now, so go fuck yourself in your little ISraeli hole and shut your fucking dirty cunt hole of a mouth before I find you and rip out your spleen with my hand!
All4Sparta77 4 months ago
@RasnaZaMan Bitch is your mother and you the bastard, so piece of shit stfu or you will se your nuke at your ass!!!! About how you work there, i think you cant speak for greeks as this damn place exist B.C, and not founded 1948 to have Hebrews a place, ofcourse away from "germany"!!!! Fucking noob
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financialtools1 4 months ago
@HFMarko Thanks Man But i rpefer to fuck your moms ass as i always do
You can watch of course...Oh probabply in your village you havent invented tv yet.
Get a life man.
lizardwine 4 months ago
@HFMarko Come and feell a big greek cock from your litlle village ok bitch?
You are miserable.
lizardwine 4 months ago
Soon Human Labour will be the Global commodity and all will labour in return for the Labour credits granted solely by the State. Hopefully Greece will exile all connected to in any way within the government these Central Banks and the bankers. Leave the E.U and set an example for all others to follow. Currency has no value, only Human Labour has value. Let all currency go the way of all failed inventions and country's.
ViamundtheRake 4 months ago
germans started all wars,they will start 3d world war too via economics ways,,and yes they will be fucked again as always,,they always lose!!
papcyrill 4 months ago
@HFMarko we put veto to vardashka (some slavic monkeys) not to macedonia,,because macedonia is a region of greece shitbird
papcyrill 4 months ago
the world uprising is going to cause a global social breakdown and a complete collapse of all government and currency world wide thus resulting in a global currency and then a world government. we're fucked.
NewAgeResistance 4 months ago
Sara looks great, reports well, is really fascinating.
But the other woman looks like a GIANT GRAPE.
zck7 4 months ago
First austerity, then violence, then fascism. Let's hope the Greek people don't get another U.S. backed right-wing government, like in 1965, with plenty of state terror.
TheForwardGaze 4 months ago 2
@HFMarko Stupid is the opposite of smart right? So we are the opposite of you guys, right? So your characterization is subjective right? Equality on the other hand is not subjective right? And equality can only be used to describe the purpose of our struggles and not yours, right (unless the mainstream americans' fights for the poor and misfortunate escape me) ? Then since we agree to set this standard...i am a proud STUPID indeed
arikat1 4 months ago
@HFMarko Considering the current OWS movements spreading to every major city in the US I hope you are not an American like myself cuz if you are by your logic we are both stupid, All Americans Are Stupid, USA is stupid, OUR NATION IS STUPID! I would have to disagree with you cuz see I believe in America. Though I would agree that American politics are stupid, what this country stands for is not. Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness is not stupid! FREEDOM IS NOT STUPID! Just because crony
TRUTHringsTRUE 4 months ago
ABOLISH THE IMF !!
captainscurvy13 4 months ago
@NeoconZombies your wrong ;)
sugamwtoxristo 4 months ago
@HFMarko We may be stupid as you say, while you are the smart developed citizen of another country, but your attitude doesn't reflect that...You are a manipulated entity that endorses whatever you are hearing and you can't support your points as you can't speak with arguments and you lack clues
mixalissilaximmixali 4 months ago
What are these austerity measures they keep talking about?
glitchnoise 4 months ago
what r u gonna do? their confused...they expect their government to help....only thing to do on the table is try to over throw the government
xuphoriaa 4 months ago
Fucking Americans are wasting our times with some shit OWS do it like real patriots red necks...u silly media-controlled pussies ... -.- plzz take out the media first bitches
xuphoriaa 4 months ago
Greeks got more BALLS! guess history tells all... then the peaceful shit scared AMERICANS with their "peaceful protests" getting their dignity stomped by the police
xuphoriaa 4 months ago 2
@xuphoriaa AGREED
All4Sparta77 4 months ago
Even germans support you Greece. Our fucking governments want to spread hatred between our people. But we love our fighting brothers in Greece, Spain, Italy and so on. Soon we'll join your struggle. Down with Merkel, Sarkozy and Papandreu. Hail to the european people!
EndstationAP 4 months ago 4
Brain dead protesters. Get the names of the most corrupt ppl in the country and go and protest at their homes not against police who do their jobs just so they can provide to the family.
No protest has ever affected the real ppl who rule. Go to their homes instead of killing pregnant women.
sias2020 4 months ago
@sias2020 The foreign media also doesn't tell all the truth. Because i am Greek civilian and i saw what happened in the protests, i can tell some untold facts. This whole massive strike/protest did happened as a circumstance of the new tax/measures law .As always it meant to be a peaceful protest without blood.But 200-300 anarchist(which may be paid to do that by the "parastate" ) So next you need to see the thing from inside and not superficially. Half milionprotested peacefull.Not 300 anarchi
mixalissilaximmixali 4 months ago
brasil,chile,india,kina, new zeeland,russia the new economi leaders
Xaanti1 4 months ago
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Greece is the first nation who have the courage to attack the nwo. The resist of the Greece nation against the new corrupt system is a model and example for all nations in the world. Turks in solidarity with the Greek citizen !
Attack nwo and banksters, fuck facsim, fight against the real enemy and exterminate nwo !
ANAPXiKOS 4 months ago
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!!!TURKEY IS WITH YOU GREEK PEOPLE!!!
Psychoz56 4 months ago
FIGHT RACISM !!!
SMASH CAPITALISM !!!
DESTROY IMPERIALISM !!!
=== KGB ===
1917NATURETV2017 4 months ago
This will be the USA if our demands aren't met. (I hope).
Zryuken 4 months ago
john here in barre vt. usa we are watching .allot of us.
JOHN27398 4 months ago
lol RT is like a low cost budget airline....gaining market share with very young, pretty and low paid employees
anthonisaac 4 months ago
all these comments are awesome
antiemo666777 4 months ago
ID WOULD TAP THAT MY GOD.
NorCal4Life925breh 4 months ago
The Greeks Dont Lay Down.........Give Em Hell .........Not Hellas
mrtundra45 4 months ago
sounds alot like whats going on here...
sxnoss40 4 months ago
@sxnoss40 in america btw
sxnoss40 4 months ago
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If the Greek government listen to these protesters they could ruin the futures of the majority of Greeks who realize that hard work will achieve stability
oblivionzzzmike 4 months ago
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50,000 or even 100,000 out of the millions of Greeks in Athens does not convince me that most Greeks don't want these reforms and to get back to a better life with their countries finances improving. The only people who are protesting are the public employees who have more to lose with their gold plated pensions paid at 58 while private workers have to continue for many more years after and have never had the guarantee of a long term job.
oblivionzzzmike 4 months ago
And the first will become the last, the richest, the poorest, the strongest, the weakest.
smacker57 4 months ago
Bulgaria is with you :)
ra7man13 4 months ago 3
The Greeks have protested peacfully for years now and it has got them nothing.
The time has come to riot with guns! Then the people power will be truly seen and the people will get what they want.
Time to take back the country before these traitors in power make things worse.
C0mmanderEddingt0n 4 months ago
remember remember the 5th of november
brokenbones199 4 months ago
beautiful back round in Greece. see that shit, it belongs to the people. not the government. run for you lives pigs. you and who your protecting and going down.
FightNHB 4 months ago
I wonder if this stupid whore Sara is going to intentionally walk in to clouds of teargas sucking on it like a cock
TheBossMalaka 4 months ago
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!!!MEXICO IS WITH YOU GREEK PEOPLE!!!
AntiNacos100 4 months ago 40
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kopellhinex 4 months ago
Molotov cocktail, lethal weapon.
binbashLinuxAhole 4 months ago
greeks are lazy.
MrGuitartramp 4 months ago
@MrGuitartramp And you are a morron.
Katatha75 4 months ago
@Katatha75 Learn to spell you greek horse.I just proved my point.Do greeks still stop working at 12;00pm to go home and sleep? Greece has become the joke of europe.I dont see riots in the French riviera.
MrGuitartramp 4 months ago
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AntiNacos100 4 months ago
SO..ARE YOU JEALOUS OF GREEKS BECAUSE THE SYSTEM IN YOUR COUNTRY MAKE YOU WORK MORE THAN THEM???
AntiNacos100 4 months ago
@AntiNacos100 Britain worked for her wealth Greece is a non coutry full of lazy fuckers Greece should have defaulted like a central american state. But no EUSSR Federalist demand she stays in Euro
ukipwarrior 4 months ago
@ukipwarrior They may seem "lazy" but are frankly sensible, people in scorching hot countries can't work like dogs, and with the wages they get now why would they? They have a different approach to life, a different culture - this should be reflected in a weaker currency as it was in the past - Brits worked hard for a stronger currency and holidays on the cheap in places like Greece, which benifited from our spending. The Greeks are different but our cousins - I love Europe but the EU is vile!!
andy7666 4 months ago
@AntiNacos100 NOT JEALOUS OF PEOPLE WHO CAN'T PAY THEIR BILLS BECAUSE THEY ENJOY SLEEPING IN THE MIDDLE OF A WORK DAY. YOUR COUNTRY IS BEGGING LIKE A HOMELESS MAN AND YOUR WORRIED ABOUT MY COUNTRY.I VISITED GREECE YEARS AGO AND SEEN FIRST HAND HOW LAZY GREEKS ARE.SO KEEP THROWING YOUR ROCKS AND ASKING GERMANY FOR MONEY.
MrGuitartramp 4 months ago
@MrGuitartramp Better sleeping in the middle of a work day than to make piles of money without any kind of work, no achievement and any contribution to society its wealth at all!
karlokater 4 months ago
@karlokater YOU KEEP TELLING YOURSELF THAT.THROWING ROCKS AT THE POLICE WHO ARE JUST DOING THEIR JOB WILL SOLVE NOTHING.IN A FEW DAYS YOU WILL ALL RETURN TO WORK LIKE SLAVES AND VENT YOUR ANGER AT THE WATER COOLER.
MrGuitartramp 4 months ago
Respond to this video... VISIT GREECE.THE HANDOUT CAPITOL OF THE WORLD.
MrGuitartramp 4 months ago
@MrGuitartramp
Without Greece, you still lived on trees idiot
Milos18Teodosic 4 months ago 23
@Milos18Teodosic Soon you will live in a tree when you can't pay back Germany.Greeks are arrogant lazy bafoons.Whatever Greece did thousands of years ago is long gone.
MrGuitartramp 4 months ago
@MrGuitartramp
IRAKLEITOS once said: ''Οδός άνω και κάτω μία''.
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PS: When England was not existed on any map..
that's it..
Milos18Teodosic 4 months ago 2
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@MrGuitartramp Why some people can't do a research (or are so stupid to understand?) Mates we are living in a world of bankers and capitalism. Taking loan to repay the alleged debt means more debt to bankers and to the elite. Afterwards means they take control of our country. This fucking system is corrupted... wake up bro and see the truth
gigamoment 4 months ago
@MrGuitartramp The fact though my friend, is that Germany owes billions to Greece(and not only Greece) after the devastating results of the military possession. Germany destroyed all the economy and the factors that could lead to a development of economy and generraly the society. Moreover i completely diassagree with you about the lazy thing...As i see you are clueless and victim of propagands.Greek people work 2120 hours while Germans ONLY 1432...So next time do your homework
mixalissilaximmixali 4 months ago 22
@mixalissilaximmixali care to provide a source?
bootr0s 4 months ago
@mixalissilaximmixali Dont even listen to that faggot MrGuitartramp he is 40 years old and still does not know wtf he is talking about lol
420chronmasta 4 months ago
@mixalissilaximmixali
The other fact, "my friend" is that Greece will reap the real rewards of so-called "progressive" social policies. Due to your envious, socialist, union/political greed your country is about to face disaster.
Say bye-bye to tourist bucks, too.
You will have NOTHING until you start working hard for a living and paying some taxes regularly - however small they are - for a change.
CheckDare 4 months ago
@CheckDare so you imply that we don't work hard? and our taxes is normal?
oh my friend, you are missinformed.
Even our stupid politicians don't know how much new unconstitutional taxes they applied
mixalissilaximmixali 4 months ago
@CheckDare and even if you think that our country is a total distaster, i still will be proud to be greek, and fight for justice and against the rotten financial system that tricks ppl for the benefits of the few
mixalissilaximmixali 4 months ago