So many dystopian sci-fi stories have the same story; fascist automaton reclaims his soul by falling in love, and even if it kills him in the end, he dies a free man. Then Jin Roh comes along and just trolls the living fuck out of that trope in a way that's as realistic as it is painful. This ending was PERFECT.
I don't think any one of us will ever see an Anime movie on par with Jin Roh in our life time. With CGI and the technology that's been improved over the years, its hard to tell if something will ever be on even grounds or competitive grounds with this movie.
I think u guys are thinking too much. You just should appreciate this anime "as it is", a great political-drama story (how can u see supenatural plot in this?). The plot came from a distopian alternative present, not so different from our one. This story shows how difficult and harsh choices can be according to the situation. Fuse is just a man tempted/forced by his situation. He's not free to decide, things in stake are bigger than his whole life.
That's why things never change, because people value the state over themselves and only serve to swell state power. I also didn't like the way Tohbe was using a condescending tone with calling him a beast, he implies a standard of morality by which people are judged as "human" when in reality morality is subjective and everyone's interpretation is different. He is free to decide, he just has been indoctrinated to not know that he is.
Hi, this is an awesome anime full of metaphors but there is one thing i did not fully understand.
What does Fuse being a "Beast inside" means? Is he a killer inside? A soldier that must follow his duty no matter what? Or is this a thing of Fuse actually being a supernatural being, a "wolf disguised as man"?
@ghoraaa Fuse isnt literally an animal disguised as a man, its a metaphor for him being a part of a brotherhood, or pack, and that he cant be normal and live with regular people because of the knowledge he has of the wolf brigade members, they literally will kill him before he leaves
can someone plz explain why handa wanted the enemy to think the girl is alive he said they cant touch us if they think we have her what does this mean
I don't find this scene sad in a tragic way: Fuse wanted to kill the firts girl and now shot the other. It's not like he's forced to kill the love of his life. It's much more ambivalent and cruel. Cruel for Fuse too, who is tearing apart by his desires and his instincts.
After the wolf eats the girl, the hunter will come to rescue her, or in this movie, should pay the wolf back with his death. Augh, I'll probably runaway with her if I were him. With a heavy armor like that you shouldn't be afraid of a gunwound at all. It's worth saving one life instead of disposing hundreds.
@AffigesEtwas That's exactly why the movie drew your attention away from that point - by the time Fuse killed her, I had basically forgotten, or at least, it wasn't what I was thinking of
a great symbol in the movie is the moon. at one point before the battle in the sewers prior to this scene, you see the full moon emerge from the clouds. very symbolic to werewolves, as a man turns into a wolf upon the full moon, just as the character shows his true face as a "beast" or member of wolf brigade.
All right, I've always wondered this. Who shot her in the end? It looks like Kazuki's gun is smoking, which makes me think he shot her. But then the guy in the shed clicks back his gun. Did he shot and was setting it, or did he uncock it because he didn't have to shoot? D:
....That kinda stung.... I guess I have a more optimistic view of stories like these. It seemed a romantic ideal that Fuse didn't shoot her; but still had to accept her death. :3
No she was shot in her side. If he shot her in the head, i doubt she would have made those breathing sounds after the trigger fired. This movie is amazing to me. I love it.
no he shot her in the heart, thats why she died instantly, when you are shot in your heart your body releases everything meaning your last breath, even your bowels, that first intake of air was purely out of reflex from her body reacting but if it was in real life she'd had dropped instantly but hey what can I say I cry every single time i see this ending :(
It's the best ending possible. A happy ending would have ruined the movie. Fuse having to kill the only person he's ever loved is what this movie is all about.
The dub on this movie was actually beautifully done. I prefer it to the Japanese vocal version. The same can be said for Cowboy BeBop. It rarely happens, but yes, sometimes a dub is very well done, as is the translation.
It didn't hit me 'till I got to hear the ending theme, and saw the book of "Little Red Riding Hood" lying lonesome in the pool. Because that's what this whole story is about. I mean, I don't know about you guys but that really did it for me.
@Outlander11 I agree...could you give me a fair answer to the mediocre amount of assholes who persistently ask for more for cute litlle girls WHO FUCKING RUINED ANIME!
@Outlander11 It is a testament really... it definitely showed everyone (including those ignorants who didn't get it with Akira) the superiority of hand painted cel animation. And it was in 2000!
And shame on Otomo for that rubbish (digital-dummies-cel-shaded: bleaaargh!!!) animation used in Freedomfucking Project...
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The ending was way too short, imo. It felt like that they want to end it asap. They took so much time to introduce everything and stuff but then coming up with such a short ending isn't right, I think. I wish there was some fitting theme song in this scene. Would have made it better, for me...but anyway. It is one of my fav movies!!!!
this aint right..it had a good plot line and all but forcing the one person who held her dearest to do this act really wrenched the viewers heart...if you watched this without feeling anything , go to the nearest doctor now, as u have no heart. I didnt like the ending, but any other ending wouldnt have been as fitting. Anyone else agree?
But I think that this ending is a good one(even a sad ending can be good, I presume). After all this ending fits with all the sadness feeling of the movie (which is an uchronie)
A very powerful scene but to be fully honest I think it had a stronger impact in the english dub, I guess it's because Fuse's whimpher sounds too stressed and artificial
Realistic in the sense that not everything ends well, for anyone.
holdmyhandtv 1 month ago
So many dystopian sci-fi stories have the same story; fascist automaton reclaims his soul by falling in love, and even if it kills him in the end, he dies a free man. Then Jin Roh comes along and just trolls the living fuck out of that trope in a way that's as realistic as it is painful. This ending was PERFECT.
NYanarchy08 1 month ago
One of the Greatest Animated Movies Ever...
Huntertribe88 2 months ago
I don't think any one of us will ever see an Anime movie on par with Jin Roh in our life time. With CGI and the technology that's been improved over the years, its hard to tell if something will ever be on even grounds or competitive grounds with this movie.
FoxGunner45 2 months ago
@FoxGunner45 That's right, one of the last full cell animation. It has some shoots with veeery little use of CGI, but in a balanced way.
Kust0r 2 months ago
jaw saw this movie with one of my friends, great movie! sad ending like others have already said here
redhotkido 2 months ago
I winced, hard, at that final shot. Damn you Oshii, damn you.
samareaye 3 months ago
This isn't just entertainment, it's art. And the point of art is to make you think and feel. And this does that in spades.
dbrendanv05 5 months ago
What would have happened if he didn't shoot her? Would have the sniper killed them both?
ADRIEL296 7 months ago
@ADRIEL296 of course
porque117 7 months ago
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@porque117 thanks I had figured that a while ago after I saw this video.
ADRIEL296 6 months ago
It is truly astonishing that animators can capture such heart-wrenching facial expressions with a pen and ink.
kasemmocha 10 months ago
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kotakole 10 months ago
I think u guys are thinking too much. You just should appreciate this anime "as it is", a great political-drama story (how can u see supenatural plot in this?). The plot came from a distopian alternative present, not so different from our one. This story shows how difficult and harsh choices can be according to the situation. Fuse is just a man tempted/forced by his situation. He's not free to decide, things in stake are bigger than his whole life.
Kust0r 1 year ago 8
@Kust0r
That's why things never change, because people value the state over themselves and only serve to swell state power. I also didn't like the way Tohbe was using a condescending tone with calling him a beast, he implies a standard of morality by which people are judged as "human" when in reality morality is subjective and everyone's interpretation is different. He is free to decide, he just has been indoctrinated to not know that he is.
ProDCloud 6 months ago
Hi, this is an awesome anime full of metaphors but there is one thing i did not fully understand.
What does Fuse being a "Beast inside" means? Is he a killer inside? A soldier that must follow his duty no matter what? Or is this a thing of Fuse actually being a supernatural being, a "wolf disguised as man"?
What did everyone think?
ghoraaa 1 year ago
@ghoraaa Fuse isnt literally an animal disguised as a man, its a metaphor for him being a part of a brotherhood, or pack, and that he cant be normal and live with regular people because of the knowledge he has of the wolf brigade members, they literally will kill him before he leaves
porque117 7 months ago
can someone plz explain why handa wanted the enemy to think the girl is alive he said they cant touch us if they think we have her what does this mean
inuyasha2389 1 year ago
This ending is pure unspeakable sadness. I dont accept it, Fuze.......
TheKrustaceox 1 year ago
Fuse needs a freaking hug
roflcopterIII 1 year ago 2
"We're not men disguised as mere dogs. We are Wolves, disguised as men"
EW0Canuk 1 year ago 2
I don't find this scene sad in a tragic way: Fuse wanted to kill the firts girl and now shot the other. It's not like he's forced to kill the love of his life. It's much more ambivalent and cruel. Cruel for Fuse too, who is tearing apart by his desires and his instincts.
vegapunky 1 year ago
I had to watch the ending at least five times before I accepted that he killed her :[
but this was an amazing movie
emmybug123 1 year ago
whats this about? can someone plz reply
WW2Phan001 1 year ago
@WW2Phan001: just watch it: you'll don't regret
vegapunky 1 year ago
it was good thinking on the part of the pack tokill her off
theworldGodonlyknows 1 year ago
T___T
This clip> entire Jin-Roh movie
7ay 1 year ago
After the wolf eats the girl, the hunter will come to rescue her, or in this movie, should pay the wolf back with his death. Augh, I'll probably runaway with her if I were him. With a heavy armor like that you shouldn't be afraid of a gunwound at all. It's worth saving one life instead of disposing hundreds.
Donovan1236 1 year ago
wolf always eat girl......
unsx2 1 year ago
I really liked the message that Fuse's commander gave. The girl's crimes cannot be erased, just as Fuse's status as a "wolf" can't.
Quizerno 1 year ago
Yeah it is sad but dont forget she is a terrorist. would you found her killing sad if she had blown up your familiy?
AffigesEtwas 1 year ago
@AffigesEtwas That's exactly why the movie drew your attention away from that point - by the time Fuse killed her, I had basically forgotten, or at least, it wasn't what I was thinking of
HeroOfCanton99 1 year ago
One of the best Anime Films ever made, I'm glad I still own a Collectors Edition version of the DVD that came with the soundtrack.
FLIPINOM4D 1 year ago
a great symbol in the movie is the moon. at one point before the battle in the sewers prior to this scene, you see the full moon emerge from the clouds. very symbolic to werewolves, as a man turns into a wolf upon the full moon, just as the character shows his true face as a "beast" or member of wolf brigade.
SexVulture 1 year ago 3
This movie is very deep. Made me think alot with its metaohors and symbolisms.
ultima209 1 year ago
the most amazing ending. i love this movie.
aliceSimona 1 year ago 4
Even if it would've been soooo cliche if he didn't shoot her and accepted his love, it was tough accepting this ending.
He still tries to find out what he really is at the end...no one had to give him orders, but at the end...it had to be said.
LookSquirrel 2 years ago
Pretty depressing masterpiece and very cruel ending. Struggling betwen humanity,love and beast inside him and loyalty to his comrades poor Fuse.
speedraptor 2 years ago 3
Such a great story. Love it.
tubeyouguy1984 2 years ago 3
All right, I've always wondered this. Who shot her in the end? It looks like Kazuki's gun is smoking, which makes me think he shot her. But then the guy in the shed clicks back his gun. Did he shot and was setting it, or did he uncock it because he didn't have to shoot? D:
lolilove22 2 years ago
Fuse(Kazuki) shoot her. Once a beast always a beast...
Bloodmistninja 2 years ago
I see. Well that's even more depressing ;_;
Thank you for telling me! <3
lolilove22 2 years ago
Fuse shot her.
The director once wrote "Even my mom understands that Fuse shot her. THAT IS THE WHOLE POINT OF THIS PLOT".
I'm not blaming you or anything but I have to agree with the director.
ashigaru 2 years ago 4
....That kinda stung.... I guess I have a more optimistic view of stories like these. It seemed a romantic ideal that Fuse didn't shoot her; but still had to accept her death. :3
lolilove22 2 years ago 3
I think he was just back there in case Kazuki didn't have the balls/dedication to go through with it and kill her. She would have been a "loose end".
CincyRoy 2 years ago 3
other guy uncock his gun because the job was done by Kazuki
doluss 2 years ago 3
No she was shot in her side. If he shot her in the head, i doubt she would have made those breathing sounds after the trigger fired. This movie is amazing to me. I love it.
Mrhashslinginslasher 2 years ago 6
no he shot her in the heart, thats why she died instantly, when you are shot in your heart your body releases everything meaning your last breath, even your bowels, that first intake of air was purely out of reflex from her body reacting but if it was in real life she'd had dropped instantly but hey what can I say I cry every single time i see this ending :(
de4th1snt3nough 2 years ago 3
Best anime ever seen! Mamoru Oshii, Hiroyuki Okiura and Hajime Mizoguchi are a perfect team.
soolos2 2 years ago
wtf? Whyyyyyyy?
This is sooo saddddd!!!!
LeeroyFan101 2 years ago 2
It's the best ending possible. A happy ending would have ruined the movie. Fuse having to kill the only person he's ever loved is what this movie is all about.
Fangen88 2 years ago 5
Yeaaahhh but I'm a sucker for happy endings. It makes me feel all warm and nice inside.
LeeroyFan101 2 years ago
i respect ur knowledge Kus. thanks 4 posting this clip here.
sleeplessintokyo 2 years ago
thank u man.
Kust0r 2 years ago
It's the ending that really crowns this movie as a masterpiece for me. I mean... holy SHIT.
Zaothus 2 years ago 4
Where can i see this movie?
cryz8210 2 years ago
lol there's no point watching the movie anymore after seeing this ending
MajinBejitto 2 years ago
This is the best Anime movie i ever seen it's a master piece
SMGJohn 2 years ago
I'm a nice guy so herez a link to watch the video (jap/ eng sub)
after typing "double u, double u double u".veoh."see,oo,m"
then add this
/videos/v24400129ydjWds?confirmed=1
BTW I'ma just being honest, but ENGLISH dub sucks, Its a good thing I speak Japanese, don't need the subs
MGassailant 3 years ago
The dub on this movie was actually beautifully done. I prefer it to the Japanese vocal version. The same can be said for Cowboy BeBop. It rarely happens, but yes, sometimes a dub is very well done, as is the translation.
project2501b 2 years ago
It didn't hit me 'till I got to hear the ending theme, and saw the book of "Little Red Riding Hood" lying lonesome in the pool. Because that's what this whole story is about. I mean, I don't know about you guys but that really did it for me.
CKbdawg 3 years ago 5
Last of the great animations to ever be released. Everything now is crap CGI.
Outlander11 3 years ago 29
@Outlander11 I agree...could you give me a fair answer to the mediocre amount of assholes who persistently ask for more for cute litlle girls WHO FUCKING RUINED ANIME!
driojas 1 year ago
@Outlander11 It is a testament really... it definitely showed everyone (including those ignorants who didn't get it with Akira) the superiority of hand painted cel animation. And it was in 2000!
And shame on Otomo for that rubbish (digital-dummies-cel-shaded: bleaaargh!!!) animation used in Freedomfucking Project...
ghostdog7575 1 year ago
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The ending was way too short, imo. It felt like that they want to end it asap. They took so much time to introduce everything and stuff but then coming up with such a short ending isn't right, I think. I wish there was some fitting theme song in this scene. Would have made it better, for me...but anyway. It is one of my fav movies!!!!
Kondomias 3 years ago
this aint right..it had a good plot line and all but forcing the one person who held her dearest to do this act really wrenched the viewers heart...if you watched this without feeling anything , go to the nearest doctor now, as u have no heart. I didnt like the ending, but any other ending wouldnt have been as fitting. Anyone else agree?
sesamestreetsquad 3 years ago 5
Sure, I agree.
But I think that this ending is a good one(even a sad ending can be good, I presume). After all this ending fits with all the sadness feeling of the movie (which is an uchronie)
Kust0r 3 years ago 7
@Kust0r A good tragedy has to be a tragedy, after all. :) And this is one hell of a good tragedy.
Gonnakillyou 1 year ago 4
This ending is the best! It's what makes the movie so exceptionally great.
majnjord 3 years ago
@sesamestreetsquad I remember first seeing this movie years ago, and the ending really just hit me hard. You didn't expect it.
mobius1aic 1 year ago
shit man, thats the most sad scene i ever saw in a movie. he shot the love of his live, that beast.
makes even me almost cry.
AllisterCaine 3 years ago 2
A very powerful scene but to be fully honest I think it had a stronger impact in the english dub, I guess it's because Fuse's whimpher sounds too stressed and artificial
TwistedGentleman 3 years ago
the ending was sad, I though it ended differently but damn its sad.
FLIPINOM4D 3 years ago
does anyone know where you can watch this movie in english i can't find it anywhere :*(
Memowolf 4 years ago
This movie was absolutely brilliant, a beautiful piece of art with a sad ending.
Spartancjl 4 years ago 23