It's fitting that Vera-Ellen puts on a performance here as a versatile young woman who can do many different things, because her dancing was like that. She was great at ballet and a fantastic tap dancer too. She succeeded in several different dance styles.
I love discovering talents like hers pretty much by accident. She's a bit before my time and I've never explored all these great musicals. There's no denying her brilliance, that's for sure.
@nuzzi7 This was made in 1949, before the anorexia had set in as much. In White Christmas, made in 1954, you can see the difference in her legs. I did not think anything of it when I first saw the movie. Now, after reading about her problem, I am more aware of it. Also in White Christmas, she wears high collars to cover her neck because her neck skin was beginning to sag. You don't think about that because the movie is set in cold Vermont, but Rosemary Clooney does not wear high collars.
Vera is vastly underrated nowadays. She was one of the greatest movie dancers ever. Very disciplined and extremely versatile, doing everything from ballet to tap expertly. Not to mention unbelievably cute. She's in the highest echelon, a peer with Cyd Charisse.
Actually as early as this film it appears she was battling anorexia. In some sequences she looks half as "big" as Betty Garrett and Ann Miller, who were both normal sized women, while in this and other sequences she looks about normal for her size. I assume Vera-Ellen's weight fluctuated quite a bit during filming. When one realizes the camera puts on ten or twenty pounds on a person, she must have looked shockingly thin in real life.
Also, I want to make it clear. I am not arguing that anorexia is not a problem in society. (Of course, so is obesity). Or that men have had "no part" in it. My argument is that the source of the problem is not so simple as you make it out to be.
"Men 'were' in control in the culture? Wow, you have been living under a rock."
"Degree" was the operative word in the sentence you got that from, and of course you know that, but when you have nothing to argue with, by all means distort the other one's statements.
dralockhart before: "but if you go back to the end of it you will see that patriarchy and its hatred of the feminine is responsible for ALL OF IT (emphasis mine)."
dralockhart now: "Who said it was "simply" attributed to the pressures of men?"
You did. More than I ever said that men had "no hand" in it.
"Are you going for irony when you tell me I have nothing to argue with?"
If your argument is that MEN IN GENERAL want women to be super thin, you have nothing to back that up. I may be going on observation, that the "waif look" does NOT appeal to men in general, and that rail thinness is promoted more in the name of "class", "elegance", and "style" than it is on the average man's idea of sex appeal. But until you provide correlative data to dispute that, no, you have nothing to argue with.
Another inconsistency, dralockhart, lies in your basing your opinion that men are promoting anorexia on pop culture, but then trying to play the ridicule game when I break down those pop culture sources by their different appeals, audiences, and images.
Where is the rationality? Your little magazine spiel didn't accomplish anything. Many women have consistently played into the misogyny promoted by patriarchal society. Many female "Christians" buy into the women should be subservient to men argument, many females push distorted body image issues on other women. They are still buying into a consciousness produced by a male-dominated society. Just because women have helped perpetuate patriarchal misogyny doesn't mean it's not traced back to men.
Not to mention, of course, Victoria's Secret and all those super-thin high-fashion runway models. Yes, that's being pushed by those far-right fundamentalist Christian women who've been brainwashed by the men. I getcha.
Also, you still need to better explain why anorexia is less frequent among minorities and lower socioeconomic classes, since while the explanation you gave ("they don't eat healthy foods") may in part explain why those who aren't anorexic more often get overweight, it does not explain why they are less likely to become anorexic.
"First of all, I'm 'indoctrinated' with data like doctors are 'indoctrinated' with biology and chemistry".
Then provide some actual data showing correlation to back up your case. You have provided none so far.
My contention that the problem of anorexia can not simply be attributed to the pressures of men is based on far more than the fashion magazines. And yes, I have studied culture, psychology, and sociology. The case for your simplistic contention is not there.
Who said it was "simply" attributed to the pressures of men? Of course something like anorexia has no one response, but if you're telling me that men and their expectations have no hand in promoting anorexia when studies of pop culture display that exactly is juvenile. Denial ain't a river in Egypt...
Note dralockharts repeated contradictions here, and backtracking. Before: ""That's when you really know men are pigs: they pressure you to be so thin you have to vomit all the time to stay that way". Later: "It's not misandry to call society out on its sins". Sorry, you said MEN were responsible, not just "society". But of course, even when you blame "society", you need to explain WHY society is the way it is. Dig deeper, don't just affix "blame" and assume that answers all.
"Go join a tea party. You'll be amongst like minded people there. Yes, the wealthy white heterosexual Christian male surely suffers worse than the rest of us."
When people start "arguing" with statements like this, you know they are backed into a corner.
When people think fashion magazines function as the end all, be all evidence for their argument, you know they had nothing to say in the first place. Men "were" in control in the culture? Wow, you have been living under a rock.
Also, dralockhart, could you please stop just using your education as a badge and actually provide evidence which shows CORRELATION between a culture's degree of patriarchy and it's incidence of anorexia? Also, evidence which shows that men in this culture prefer super-thin women, the thinner the better? Better yet, a comparison of men's image of a woman's attractiveness with the degree to which women at that weight are healthy or not.
Google "anorexia" and go to the first site. "The disorder is thought to be most common among people of higher socioeconomic classes and people involved in activities where thinness is especially looked upon, such as dancing, theater, and distance running." Before you blame all men, maybe you should blame those professions.
dralockhart before: "That's when you really know men are pigs: they pressure you to be so thin you have to vomit all the time to stay that way". dralockhart later: "men hate overly thin women because overly thin women with disproportionate chests don't appear in men's magazines". So, are men in general pressuring women to be overly thin, or not? Or are they pressuring the editors of the women's magazines? You're obvious misandry is no better than misogyny.
P.S. It's not misandry to call society out on its sins. Nice try, but the "reverse discrimination" argument is pretty pathetic. Go join a tea party. You'll be amongst like minded people there. Yes, the wealthy white heterosexual Christian male surely suffers worse than the rest of us.
Don't put your modern feminist bullsh*t onto innocent people of the past. The notion of anoxeria was created for political reasons and has nothing whatsoever to do with Vera-Ellen.
Nothing to do with Vera Ellen? She was so bulimic that she destroyed her neck. Watch "White Christmas." You'll see that EVERY SINGLE THING she's wearing covers her neck. That's when you really know men are pigs: they pressure you to be so thin you have to vomit all the time to stay that way, and when it destroys your neck they make you cover it up. "Modern feminism bullshit." Clearly a man who needs to control women in order to feel more powerful... sad.
dralockhart, compare the women who appear as models in men's magazines with those that appear in the women's magazines, and come back and tell us again that it is men who pressure women to be thin. Men are not attracted to overly thin women. Overly thin women grace the pages of women's style and fashion magazines, and these images are largely promoted by other women.
Yes, men hate overly thin women because overly thin women with disproportionate chests don't appear in men's magazines. You are obviously not studied in social psychology or gender/sexuality. We live in a patriarchal society. Many women are indoctrinated with this sickening misogyny and actively promote it. Those women's magazines play into it, but if you go back to the end of it you will see that patriarchy and its hatred of the feminine is responsible for all of it.
Thinness is not promoted in these magazines as being sexy, it is promoted as being "elegant" and "classy". A very different thing. You sound like you've been indoctrinated in highly politicized women's studies courses. Men prefer women with curves and some meat on them, and this is healthier than the overly thin image that is promoted in the name of "class" and "elegance"....or pushed by upper or upper-middle-class parents on their girls. (Few anorexia victims come from lower class households).
Have you ever witnessed a photoshoot? The word "sexy" is thrown around all the time. First of all, I'm "indoctrinated" with data like doctors are "indoctrinated" with biology and chemistry. You don't speak for all men. Wow, you really are ignorant when it comes to sex and gender. The reason lower class women are heavier is because they do not have access to the same healthy foods. Please, when you've received an education come back, because your arguments are tanking.
Vera Ellen was pure dancing genius. First time I've seen this clip.... Delightful. It's pretty much accepted that she battled anorexia. What the heck, we all battle something! I'm just sorry she couldn't stay with us longer!
yeh its a shame she had to battle it alone! she had the thinnest waist in hollywood but had scaring along her neck and upper body from the disorder which means she had to have costumes with night necks and collars so no one would see!!
It seems that when a dancer really enjoys what they're doing,regardless of the role,it shows. As a result,it makes them fun to watch.
When I was a teenager, I watched my first ballet (The Nutcracker) and I was a little bored (I was also a third wheel on my brother's date). But the dancer playing Fritz was having so much fun with such a minor role, he made the ballet fun to watch as well.
Oh, I adored the Nutcracker! My mom took me to see it performed in Chicago and I thought the Arabian dance was the most gorgeous thing I'd ever seen. I'm sad to hear you didn't like it so much. Try again maybe? Though you say it was your first, so I'm guessing you've enjoyed others :)
This was John Neumeir's version,so it wasn't quite the Nutcracker that most people were used to seeing. Maria is turning thirteen and it doesn't happen at Christmas,but on her birthday.
Since then I've seen regular Nutcrackers and other story ballets.
This was back in 1984 with the Royal Winnipeg Ballet. The fellow I saw playing Fritz was Martin Schlapfer ,who is now the artistic director for the Ballet Am Rhein in Dusseldorf.
I don't see how people could think she was anorexic. She looks great, and dancers are freakishly skinny anyway. Besides, if she were she definitely wouldn't be able to perform that well. Since the body, if it doesn't receive nourishment, begins to eat away the muscle...and you have to have muscle to dance like that.
Either way - very talented, amazing dancer and actress.
There is such a thing as aerobic anorexia, you eat just like normal, just not enough to keep fat on your body at the rate you work out. Compare her thighs in White Christmas to this clip and to the dancers in the background, they're all muscle.. in an unhealthy way.
Being a dancer doesn't necessarily make you skinny, it's working off more calories than you eat.
@ARbenSRbarGR Totally agree with you. Watching White Christmas now. She is great in the dance numbers, but is so thin. She looks really good, in this movie. 5 years can do a lot, but there is a huge difference.
thanks lol - saw a lot of arguments about it. i'm not saying for sure that she was anorexic, and even if she was doesn't make her a terrible person, but a lot of ppl seemed to think that's what i meant. whether she had an eating disorder or not, she was DEFINITELY thinner in White Christmas, and I personally didn't think she looked healthy. Anywho, thanks for the support :) lol
Vera-Ellen looks amazing in this number but watch the difference between this and White Christmas. You can tell she has dropped around ten-fifteen pounds off her already thin frame.
It's fitting that Vera-Ellen puts on a performance here as a versatile young woman who can do many different things, because her dancing was like that. She was great at ballet and a fantastic tap dancer too. She succeeded in several different dance styles.
silloftheworld 1 month ago
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ayooxxxjordan 1 month ago
@Drblooter99 Watch Lady GaGa proform. Think of how hard it would be to write a song like her. Vera Ellen was ver talented, but so is GaGa.
PawsUp322 2 months ago
In those days technically brilliant dancers were stars. Now we have Beyonce's big knees and Gaga's big nose and Kelly Rowland's big ass.
Drblooter99 2 months ago
genial
1900yomismo 3 months ago
That routine must have been a blast. XD
HorrorFrogPrincess 4 months ago
I am 19 yrs old. This movie is my fave movie of Gene Kelly and Frank Sinatra together. But I gotta say, this scene is one of my favorites.
The talent shown is purely awesome. I haven't seen anyone in my age which matches this one.
bobkane27 6 months ago
Great number! Vera Ellen was wonderful. So were the
rest of the dancers.
Thanks for the fun post.
rockgor 7 months ago
God bless Vera-Ellen in her best years the Best Hollywood dancer the world has ever seen !!!!! Thank you Vera
standelman95 7 months ago
this clip was quite entertaining xD lol
VampirePrincess4jc 8 months ago
Luigi, the famous jazz teacher in NYC, is in this number!
5678Luigi 9 months ago
She was a great talent, but her personal life was tragic. it's a pity...
trafikuty 10 months ago
I like this movie , especially this scene. Great uploading
rainslikecatsanddogs 10 months ago
Vera did as much for the popularity for ballet as did the defecting Russians. Bless her talented heart
wendyverdades 11 months ago
I love discovering talents like hers pretty much by accident. She's a bit before my time and I've never explored all these great musicals. There's no denying her brilliance, that's for sure.
namtil 1 year ago 2
2:44-2:50 if you look carefully, you can see Vera-Ellen wince when her hair hits her face. lol
Anyway, this is one of my favorite scenes from the movie. Thanks for the upload! ^.^
RandomPersimmon 1 year ago
@GuppyLove314
makes one wonder how she had the energy to dance like this...being anorexic and all...
I read her bio and it sounded so sad to me...losing her only daughter etc.
nuzzi7 1 year ago
@nuzzi7 This was made in 1949, before the anorexia had set in as much. In White Christmas, made in 1954, you can see the difference in her legs. I did not think anything of it when I first saw the movie. Now, after reading about her problem, I am more aware of it. Also in White Christmas, she wears high collars to cover her neck because her neck skin was beginning to sag. You don't think about that because the movie is set in cold Vermont, but Rosemary Clooney does not wear high collars.
ChicagoSouthDan 9 months ago
Definitely one of my all-time faves....visited her grave a few years back...high in the mountains above L.A.
edbjr38 1 year ago
she should have done grand jete over the hurdles. hahaah
francofile714 1 year ago 3
Vera-Ellen had the best legs in Hollywood.
Eyegore560 1 year ago 3
Holy Frick, she's adorable!!! I wish I could have met her...
08hamsandwich 1 year ago 3
Vera is vastly underrated nowadays. She was one of the greatest movie dancers ever. Very disciplined and extremely versatile, doing everything from ballet to tap expertly. Not to mention unbelievably cute. She's in the highest echelon, a peer with Cyd Charisse.
jsharp1701 1 year ago 24
Actually as early as this film it appears she was battling anorexia. In some sequences she looks half as "big" as Betty Garrett and Ann Miller, who were both normal sized women, while in this and other sequences she looks about normal for her size. I assume Vera-Ellen's weight fluctuated quite a bit during filming. When one realizes the camera puts on ten or twenty pounds on a person, she must have looked shockingly thin in real life.
susannreno 1 year ago
"Gee... she's wonderful...!"
westsidestory97 1 year ago 3
this always reminds me of leslie caron's sequence in An American in paris <3
berryshorttcake 1 year ago
@berryshorttcake OMIGOD! Me too!
westsidestory97 1 year ago
she is such a great dancer!
FreyaVana 1 year ago 6
Also, I want to make it clear. I am not arguing that anorexia is not a problem in society. (Of course, so is obesity). Or that men have had "no part" in it. My argument is that the source of the problem is not so simple as you make it out to be.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
"Men 'were' in control in the culture? Wow, you have been living under a rock."
"Degree" was the operative word in the sentence you got that from, and of course you know that, but when you have nothing to argue with, by all means distort the other one's statements.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Are you going for irony when you tell me I have nothing to argue with?
dralockhart 2 years ago
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dralockhart before: "but if you go back to the end of it you will see that patriarchy and its hatred of the feminine is responsible for ALL OF IT (emphasis mine)."
dralockhart now: "Who said it was "simply" attributed to the pressures of men?"
You did. More than I ever said that men had "no hand" in it.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
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"Are you going for irony when you tell me I have nothing to argue with?"
If your argument is that MEN IN GENERAL want women to be super thin, you have nothing to back that up. I may be going on observation, that the "waif look" does NOT appeal to men in general, and that rail thinness is promoted more in the name of "class", "elegance", and "style" than it is on the average man's idea of sex appeal. But until you provide correlative data to dispute that, no, you have nothing to argue with.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Another inconsistency, dralockhart, lies in your basing your opinion that men are promoting anorexia on pop culture, but then trying to play the ridicule game when I break down those pop culture sources by their different appeals, audiences, and images.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Where is the rationality? Your little magazine spiel didn't accomplish anything. Many women have consistently played into the misogyny promoted by patriarchal society. Many female "Christians" buy into the women should be subservient to men argument, many females push distorted body image issues on other women. They are still buying into a consciousness produced by a male-dominated society. Just because women have helped perpetuate patriarchal misogyny doesn't mean it's not traced back to men.
dralockhart 2 years ago
Oh, so these female Christians are the ones pushing the super-thin image in the fashion and style magazines? Is this what you're implying?
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Not to mention, of course, Victoria's Secret and all those super-thin high-fashion runway models. Yes, that's being pushed by those far-right fundamentalist Christian women who've been brainwashed by the men. I getcha.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Also, you still need to better explain why anorexia is less frequent among minorities and lower socioeconomic classes, since while the explanation you gave ("they don't eat healthy foods") may in part explain why those who aren't anorexic more often get overweight, it does not explain why they are less likely to become anorexic.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
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"First of all, I'm 'indoctrinated' with data like doctors are 'indoctrinated' with biology and chemistry".
Then provide some actual data showing correlation to back up your case. You have provided none so far.
My contention that the problem of anorexia can not simply be attributed to the pressures of men is based on far more than the fashion magazines. And yes, I have studied culture, psychology, and sociology. The case for your simplistic contention is not there.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Who said it was "simply" attributed to the pressures of men? Of course something like anorexia has no one response, but if you're telling me that men and their expectations have no hand in promoting anorexia when studies of pop culture display that exactly is juvenile. Denial ain't a river in Egypt...
dralockhart 2 years ago
Note dralockharts repeated contradictions here, and backtracking. Before: ""That's when you really know men are pigs: they pressure you to be so thin you have to vomit all the time to stay that way". Later: "It's not misandry to call society out on its sins". Sorry, you said MEN were responsible, not just "society". But of course, even when you blame "society", you need to explain WHY society is the way it is. Dig deeper, don't just affix "blame" and assume that answers all.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
"Go join a tea party. You'll be amongst like minded people there. Yes, the wealthy white heterosexual Christian male surely suffers worse than the rest of us."
When people start "arguing" with statements like this, you know they are backed into a corner.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
When people think fashion magazines function as the end all, be all evidence for their argument, you know they had nothing to say in the first place. Men "were" in control in the culture? Wow, you have been living under a rock.
dralockhart 2 years ago
Also, dralockhart, could you please stop just using your education as a badge and actually provide evidence which shows CORRELATION between a culture's degree of patriarchy and it's incidence of anorexia? Also, evidence which shows that men in this culture prefer super-thin women, the thinner the better? Better yet, a comparison of men's image of a woman's attractiveness with the degree to which women at that weight are healthy or not.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Google "anorexia" and go to the first site. "The disorder is thought to be most common among people of higher socioeconomic classes and people involved in activities where thinness is especially looked upon, such as dancing, theater, and distance running." Before you blame all men, maybe you should blame those professions.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
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dralockhart before: "That's when you really know men are pigs: they pressure you to be so thin you have to vomit all the time to stay that way". dralockhart later: "men hate overly thin women because overly thin women with disproportionate chests don't appear in men's magazines". So, are men in general pressuring women to be overly thin, or not? Or are they pressuring the editors of the women's magazines? You're obvious misandry is no better than misogyny.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
P.S. It's not misandry to call society out on its sins. Nice try, but the "reverse discrimination" argument is pretty pathetic. Go join a tea party. You'll be amongst like minded people there. Yes, the wealthy white heterosexual Christian male surely suffers worse than the rest of us.
dralockhart 2 years ago
Also, how about showing a correlation CHRONOLOGICALLY between the degree of anorexia and the degree to which men were in control in the culture?
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
すばらしい！！！！
syouwa16nen12gatu8ka 2 years ago
@stickershomeplus
Yeh guess it didn't help that her only child she had at about 40 and it died as an infant.
drwinkle101 2 years ago
Don't put your modern feminist bullsh*t onto innocent people of the past. The notion of anoxeria was created for political reasons and has nothing whatsoever to do with Vera-Ellen.
jockdoubleday 2 years ago
Nothing to do with Vera Ellen? She was so bulimic that she destroyed her neck. Watch "White Christmas." You'll see that EVERY SINGLE THING she's wearing covers her neck. That's when you really know men are pigs: they pressure you to be so thin you have to vomit all the time to stay that way, and when it destroys your neck they make you cover it up. "Modern feminism bullshit." Clearly a man who needs to control women in order to feel more powerful... sad.
dralockhart 2 years ago
dralockhart, compare the women who appear as models in men's magazines with those that appear in the women's magazines, and come back and tell us again that it is men who pressure women to be thin. Men are not attracted to overly thin women. Overly thin women grace the pages of women's style and fashion magazines, and these images are largely promoted by other women.
vinylsingleman 2 years ago 2
Yes, men hate overly thin women because overly thin women with disproportionate chests don't appear in men's magazines. You are obviously not studied in social psychology or gender/sexuality. We live in a patriarchal society. Many women are indoctrinated with this sickening misogyny and actively promote it. Those women's magazines play into it, but if you go back to the end of it you will see that patriarchy and its hatred of the feminine is responsible for all of it.
dralockhart 2 years ago
Thinness is not promoted in these magazines as being sexy, it is promoted as being "elegant" and "classy". A very different thing. You sound like you've been indoctrinated in highly politicized women's studies courses. Men prefer women with curves and some meat on them, and this is healthier than the overly thin image that is promoted in the name of "class" and "elegance"....or pushed by upper or upper-middle-class parents on their girls. (Few anorexia victims come from lower class households).
vinylsingleman 2 years ago
Have you ever witnessed a photoshoot? The word "sexy" is thrown around all the time. First of all, I'm "indoctrinated" with data like doctors are "indoctrinated" with biology and chemistry. You don't speak for all men. Wow, you really are ignorant when it comes to sex and gender. The reason lower class women are heavier is because they do not have access to the same healthy foods. Please, when you've received an education come back, because your arguments are tanking.
dralockhart 2 years ago
Wonderful!
gemania2001 2 years ago
Vera Ellen was pure dancing genius. First time I've seen this clip.... Delightful. It's pretty much accepted that she battled anorexia. What the heck, we all battle something! I'm just sorry she couldn't stay with us longer!
dairydell 2 years ago 2
She's amazing, and those fellows are doing a great job keeping up with her.
pursehappygal 2 years ago 2
Does anyone else think she looks a little like ellen pompeo? Meridith from Grey's Anatomy?
bubblesis88 2 years ago
Not really, I think she looks like Doris Day.
Blissycat 2 years ago 2
yeh its a shame she had to battle it alone! she had the thinnest waist in hollywood but had scaring along her neck and upper body from the disorder which means she had to have costumes with night necks and collars so no one would see!!
BriefEncounter1987 2 years ago
I remember seeing that on IMDB. I remember seeing that she always wore high collars in White Christmas, but never thought about why.
pursehappygal 2 years ago
what a smile, what a gal.
Diiixdixo 2 years ago 2
These scenes are so much fun. I also love the Leslie Caron one in 'An American in Paris'.
AAMLfan 2 years ago 3
What a cute number :D she always looks like she has so much fun dancing
Loveydvy99 2 years ago
It seems that when a dancer really enjoys what they're doing,regardless of the role,it shows. As a result,it makes them fun to watch.
When I was a teenager, I watched my first ballet (The Nutcracker) and I was a little bored (I was also a third wheel on my brother's date). But the dancer playing Fritz was having so much fun with such a minor role, he made the ballet fun to watch as well.
pursehappygal 2 years ago 2
Oh, I adored the Nutcracker! My mom took me to see it performed in Chicago and I thought the Arabian dance was the most gorgeous thing I'd ever seen. I'm sad to hear you didn't like it so much. Try again maybe? Though you say it was your first, so I'm guessing you've enjoyed others :)
Loveydvy99 2 years ago
This was John Neumeir's version,so it wasn't quite the Nutcracker that most people were used to seeing. Maria is turning thirteen and it doesn't happen at Christmas,but on her birthday.
Since then I've seen regular Nutcrackers and other story ballets.
This was back in 1984 with the Royal Winnipeg Ballet. The fellow I saw playing Fritz was Martin Schlapfer ,who is now the artistic director for the Ballet Am Rhein in Dusseldorf.
(just a bit of trivia).
pursehappygal 2 years ago
wow what a great dance number, vera-ellen is adorable!
philipp4130 2 years ago 4
I don't see how people could think she was anorexic. She looks great, and dancers are freakishly skinny anyway. Besides, if she were she definitely wouldn't be able to perform that well. Since the body, if it doesn't receive nourishment, begins to eat away the muscle...and you have to have muscle to dance like that.
Either way - very talented, amazing dancer and actress.
ember514 3 years ago 2
anorexic doesn't exactly mean you have to look a certain way. it's true that most anorexics are ridiculously skinny but rlly it's just not eating.
SultanaLotus 2 years ago
There is such a thing as aerobic anorexia, you eat just like normal, just not enough to keep fat on your body at the rate you work out. Compare her thighs in White Christmas to this clip and to the dancers in the background, they're all muscle.. in an unhealthy way.
Being a dancer doesn't necessarily make you skinny, it's working off more calories than you eat.
Loveydvy99 2 years ago
she looks far skinnier later in life - here in this movie she looks great, but in White Christmas, she definitely looks dangerously thin
ARbenSRbarGR 2 years ago 2
@ARbenSRbarGR Totally agree with you. Watching White Christmas now. She is great in the dance numbers, but is so thin. She looks really good, in this movie. 5 years can do a lot, but there is a huge difference.
kyokogodai 2 years ago
thanks lol - saw a lot of arguments about it. i'm not saying for sure that she was anorexic, and even if she was doesn't make her a terrible person, but a lot of ppl seemed to think that's what i meant. whether she had an eating disorder or not, she was DEFINITELY thinner in White Christmas, and I personally didn't think she looked healthy. Anywho, thanks for the support :) lol
ARbenSRbarGR 2 years ago
Vera-Ellen looks amazing in this number but watch the difference between this and White Christmas. You can tell she has dropped around ten-fifteen pounds off her already thin frame.
hallje13 2 years ago
Vera Ellen is the Best!! What a Women!
rodneyhackenflash 3 years ago 5
One of the best dancers of her era & probably of all time thanx for posting this :-)
markfretwell1 3 years ago 6
This is one of Vera's best all-time dances. Simply marvelous. Thanks so much for posting this. Peace.
FanOfJanis 3 years ago 4
me and my sister used to rewind this bit and watch it over and over! we love this film
Bluequotations 3 years ago 2
"what a girl!" I love Vera!!! :) :)
Diiixdixo 3 years ago 5