does anyone realize when winter gets here it freezes up and blows out?..can you put antifreeze in the water to prevent the freezing affect?..or add windshield washer fluid to it..PLEASE HELP
To cool the water I used a gas hose from a gas dryer it was Stainless steel as It needs to be then coil it up put a computer fan on one end,and there you go!
you know what sucks about being a college student? i have all this time and ideas, but no money or resources.....i gotta find some people thats into this kinda stuff in my area....are there any forums or boards that you guys know about?
I like the bubbler. Is a bubbler really needed if one way check valves are used? I am thinking of adding a safety valve on my valve cover to keep gas from building up on my crankcase. I also am thinking about adding a 1/2 to 3/4 inch pop off valve onto the top of my hydrogen cell in case of a flash-back my flow will not be interupted. Good to see you working so hard like we all are. It is getting really intresting now. God bless ya! ApostleRon
I hadn't seen anything about running this bubbler at cold and extreme cold temperatures. The Problem I've been having is freezing of the bubbler. I've added different chemicals from salt... Don't do that... lol to vinegar... another no no and lastly rubbing alcohol. So far that is doing pretty well. Even though I like your idea of the Scotch pad and holes, I wonder if when driving in cold temps, if the water sloshing around will freeze those holes solid, then you may have a problem with pressure
I tried windshield washer fluid, in the bubbler it worked at temperatures above 0 degrees F. But under 0 it became slushy and around -15 it froze solid. In the cell it only lasted about 16 hours and then reverted back to water, plus it took more catalyst to work. I was told never to use radiatior fluid, but I can't remember why that was. I might just unhook it during the extreme cold of winter.
sicfikit,Hey! I really needed to try something like this with my joe type cell thanks<! That is a cool unit. I am so into the home brew that is what makes it real to me. Theo.
sorry you can delete this message but i found this funny pause it at 4:19 oh and love the bubbler gonna make one and use it in my school science fair if ya don't mind
You could try fine bronze wool instead of the scotch bright or SS pad. It might serve as a flashback protector also... SS burns like crazy, FBW will not burn easily.
Where did you get the clear plastic 2" pipe? How much was it?
Also you can use your car's window wiper spray line, feed that into your generator, and have another hose to catch the water overflow in the gen and have it drain back into something else. That's a good way to easily re-circulate the water, keep temp down...
Hey, Steve, hope it cooled down for you there now ... Can't send you any more cool weather since it's nearly 100 here in Oregon now. Couple questions: once you glue the top on how do you get water in the two sections? Also, have you thought about using copper scrub pads? They take a bit more room at the top, but that's what I saw S.Scarecrow use. Copper scrub pads are thick, so should cool a flame down, plus will let water drop to your upper bubbler.
Man you have some wild ideas on that bubbler, I'm to slow at building because I have to keep running the idea over and over in my head before trying it, but you beat me to some of the ideas in your bubbler design here... I also was thinking of the LED thing and the vapor filter...KOOL & GREAT WORK - I like adding a little FLASH to life too!!!
That is really nice! I got a lot of ideas from Mr. Almosthydrogen. Thank you for sharing your great discoveries. Are you going to post some video when you are all done?
Hi there I did try part of this idear befor and It did'nt work I found the green scara pad held the water and did'nt let it fall back down then when it got to full of water it would be sucked out the top gas out fitting you might wanna try the thick SS scara srubs might be the way to go All the best sorry no vid's from me in a long time been very very busy keep up the great work Kind Regards!!
I seem to loose a lot of the water back to my bubbler in the form of steam & from it frothing up then going over bumps & it sloshing around so I think we need to make a bubble breaker and something to keep the steam from leaving the first chamber I found the right placement of your gas out point can stop water from getting out from ruff driving I found it's not in the middle and not right on the side about half way. I'll rest when I done lol yeah I will have a brake soon when I fine the time lol
Sweet bubbler. As far as cooling cell you would need a 100% stainless heat echanger. A transmission cooler wont work bec of elecrolyte.trans coolers are aluminum or copper. I am building a tube and shell cooler that i tig weld together. The only ones i found were for pharmacies and they are 6-700.00. I can put one together for roughly 130. I made one from copper just to test theory and it worked too well never over 100deg.stainless doesnt transfer heat as well so should work. will post plans
looks cool, get some bubbles going there,stay away from the brass though, it will react with your lyle, you should be able to get nylon connections to match.
People do stupid stuff all the time, look how many pwms are out there that don't need to be?. the reaction with low concentration of naoh will be noticeable by ,corrosion of the brass over time, the stronger the strength the more effect it will have, any reaction to materials is not welcome in your combustion chamber, if you used it with a 7series cell which needs about 340gms to the liter of koh, it would last a week.
If someone does use large amounts of koh like you mentioned, then I guess it would be a problem. However I only use about 2 teaspoons of NaOH - some other folks I know have had cells with brass fittings for over 2 yrs & havent had any problems (granted they dont use much NaOH either).
I do go to the local restore & if they have any nylon fittings, I will probably pick them up just in case.
exactly,also at hydroxy group you will find proven designs like the dry tero cell, or the mother load 101 plate which can produce 30ltrs min,or the yikes cell, once you join the site it will blow you away and your knowledge will skyrocket, honestly i have been doing this for about three years and there is no better site, especially for the beginner.you can message the designers directly, they are there for disscussion.
Yeah, NaOH reacts with AL,brass,tin,zinc. The reaction will actually produce hydrogen, though less violently than AL. High temperature plastics are preferred. Natural Kynar fittings are the best, because they are rated "A" for acids and bases. Kybnar has an operating temp of up to 260 Degrees F. High density Polypropylene is also rated "A" for both acids and bases. PVC shows no effects. Nylon is okay, too. Polycarbonate will damage with bases.
where did you get the one way check valve
Basshog1000 6 months ago
Drill your holes at an angle outword.
BradLee6960 1 year ago
does anyone realize when winter gets here it freezes up and blows out?..can you put antifreeze in the water to prevent the freezing affect?..or add windshield washer fluid to it..PLEASE HELP
pcxcity 1 year ago
Hi, here is a little alternative to connect bubbler arrestors or generator. Regards Hans
kemahp 1 year ago
To cool the water I used a gas hose from a gas dryer it was Stainless steel as It needs to be then coil it up put a computer fan on one end,and there you go!
beginerhydro 2 years ago
what is this thing used for? someone tell me
todd5446 2 years ago
you know what sucks about being a college student? i have all this time and ideas, but no money or resources.....i gotta find some people thats into this kinda stuff in my area....are there any forums or boards that you guys know about?
Rcore270 2 years ago
HOW DO YOU SMOKE WEED OUT OF THIS. WTFF
bapee105 2 years ago
what about a heater for the wintertime?
and also remember pogs!! lol wonder if the plactic tubes that held them would work? just a thought
o0mill3r0o 2 years ago
I stumbled across this on accident, but I was just wondering exactly what this thing is suppoed to do?
bonspeeds 3 years ago
1. The new bubbler is here! I show how it works and the parts used to build it.
2. I say thanks to all who helped me understand this hho stuff - I really appreciate the extra effort you all take to help me "learn" this hho stuff.
do hho ring any bell? if not you will not understand
malanduye 3 years ago
I like the bubbler. Is a bubbler really needed if one way check valves are used? I am thinking of adding a safety valve on my valve cover to keep gas from building up on my crankcase. I also am thinking about adding a 1/2 to 3/4 inch pop off valve onto the top of my hydrogen cell in case of a flash-back my flow will not be interupted. Good to see you working so hard like we all are. It is getting really intresting now. God bless ya! ApostleRon
Hydrogenphueldotcom 3 years ago
I hadn't seen anything about running this bubbler at cold and extreme cold temperatures. The Problem I've been having is freezing of the bubbler. I've added different chemicals from salt... Don't do that... lol to vinegar... another no no and lastly rubbing alcohol. So far that is doing pretty well. Even though I like your idea of the Scotch pad and holes, I wonder if when driving in cold temps, if the water sloshing around will freeze those holes solid, then you may have a problem with pressure
imstanglenville 3 years ago
could we use windshield washer fluid or radiator fluid in a bubbler at extreme cold? I don't know just asking
malanduye 3 years ago
I tried windshield washer fluid, in the bubbler it worked at temperatures above 0 degrees F. But under 0 it became slushy and around -15 it froze solid. In the cell it only lasted about 16 hours and then reverted back to water, plus it took more catalyst to work. I was told never to use radiatior fluid, but I can't remember why that was. I might just unhook it during the extreme cold of winter.
imstanglenville 2 years ago
sicfikit,Hey! I really needed to try something like this with my joe type cell thanks<! That is a cool unit. I am so into the home brew that is what makes it real to me. Theo.
sicfikit 3 years ago
one way check valve!, I would never have known....that is an absolutely brilliant idea having 2 bubblers in one
Kepp up the good work bro
bhelpurii 3 years ago
where do you put the weed?
zackywacky34 3 years ago
ur a dumbass u dnt smoke outta it
AdIcTeD2ZaChx420 3 years ago
sorry you can delete this message but i found this funny pause it at 4:19 oh and love the bubbler gonna make one and use it in my school science fair if ya don't mind
guitarmasters33 3 years ago
no problem feel free but use at your own risk.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
were do you buy your plastic parts ?
h2ocargo 3 years ago
As for the acrylic tube you can find it here...
mcmaster (.) com
part # 8486K343 CLEAR CAST ACRYLIC TUBE, 2" OD X 1-3/4" ID, 1' LENGTH $14.53
All other pvc parts I found at home depot, lowes & local plumbing store.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
You could try fine bronze wool instead of the scotch bright or SS pad. It might serve as a flashback protector also... SS burns like crazy, FBW will not burn easily.
Where did you get the clear plastic 2" pipe? How much was it?
Also you can use your car's window wiper spray line, feed that into your generator, and have another hose to catch the water overflow in the gen and have it drain back into something else. That's a good way to easily re-circulate the water, keep temp down...
asusreviews 3 years ago
Thanks for the tips - I will keep them in mind.
As for the acrylic tube you can find it here...
mcmaster (.) com
part # 8486K343 CLEAR CAST ACRYLIC TUBE, 2" OD X 1-3/4" ID, 1' LENGTH $14.53
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
AH have you tested this thing yet?
freedomorelse 3 years ago
yep.
Check out "The Coolest Bubbler on youtube!"
:D
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Hey, Steve, hope it cooled down for you there now ... Can't send you any more cool weather since it's nearly 100 here in Oregon now. Couple questions: once you glue the top on how do you get water in the two sections? Also, have you thought about using copper scrub pads? They take a bit more room at the top, but that's what I saw S.Scarecrow use. Copper scrub pads are thick, so should cool a flame down, plus will let water drop to your upper bubbler.
vancecook7 3 years ago
Hi,
Actually I did switch to a ss scrub pad and it works much better than a green pad (it held too much water).
To add water u unscrew the top & add; w/ the bottom u just blow water thru the bottom tube & check valve.
Its works pretty well.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Thanks for replying to all of the comments, it must be tiring. Don't reply to this one but it's gotta get old after awhile. Thanks!
cribcat1 3 years ago
It ain't too bad.
;)
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Looks cool, but will it allow plenty of gas flow?Ports seem a little small.Overall look is a 10!
shamansays 3 years ago
I use the same size brass connectors as I did when I used the nylon ones - no problem with the old setup, but still have to test this and see.
Thanks
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Man you have some wild ideas on that bubbler, I'm to slow at building because I have to keep running the idea over and over in my head before trying it, but you beat me to some of the ideas in your bubbler design here... I also was thinking of the LED thing and the vapor filter...KOOL & GREAT WORK - I like adding a little FLASH to life too!!!
richgreenllc 3 years ago
Thanks, hopefully it will work and look cool at the same time.
;)
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
How are you going to fill the bottom bubbler? You would have to pump in the water using the air inlet at the bottom, yes?
FarleysINC 3 years ago
you got it.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
How's the flow rate on the bubbler? Good Idea regardless.
cribcat1 3 years ago
thanks, I'll do a vid with an actual test and see.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
That is really nice! I got a lot of ideas from Mr. Almosthydrogen. Thank you for sharing your great discoveries. Are you going to post some video when you are all done?
pinoykunat 3 years ago
yes I will.
:)
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Nice work, again. Now the fun begins (figuring out your on-board electronics).
jimmyturismo 3 years ago
I have a feeling I will learn a lot with that too.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
pretty good bubbler design Hopefully everything will work like you planned
jdcmusicman 3 years ago
If it doesnt work, I'll just sell it to a star wars fan.
;)
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Great idea on the 2 stage bubbler!!
thenewdays 3 years ago
thank you - I do get an idea every once in a great while.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Hi there I did try part of this idear befor and It did'nt work I found the green scara pad held the water and did'nt let it fall back down then when it got to full of water it would be sucked out the top gas out fitting you might wanna try the thick SS scara srubs might be the way to go All the best sorry no vid's from me in a long time been very very busy keep up the great work Kind Regards!!
deltahho 3 years ago
Ummm... I just got back from the kitchen and your right. Those green pads do hold a lot of water = not good.
I think I'll try the ss scrub pads, since they hold a minimal amount of water. Thanks for the tip.
BTW, dont forget to take a break - 'all work & no play makes jack a dull boy'.
;)
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Your setup is a little different from mine. If you can solve this problem we will be one step closer.
deltahho 3 years ago
I seem to loose a lot of the water back to my bubbler in the form of steam & from it frothing up then going over bumps & it sloshing around so I think we need to make a bubble breaker and something to keep the steam from leaving the first chamber I found the right placement of your gas out point can stop water from getting out from ruff driving I found it's not in the middle and not right on the side about half way. I'll rest when I done lol yeah I will have a brake soon when I fine the time lol
deltahho 3 years ago
You forgot to mention where you got the clear tube from. :)
lutherp40 3 years ago
Nice bubbler, a little exotic for this country boy, but very impressive.
mowerman54 3 years ago
LOL - how come I dont believe you mowerman?
;)
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
:) go do the dishes! that filter idea at the top is a great idea.
webovisionca 3 years ago
thanks, but we'll see how it tests out.
the worst that can happen is that I end up doing dishes for a week.
;)
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Hey nice bubbler
Go see genOlizer on YouTube to take a look at the EBN Inc. Bubbler/Tank prototype. Really nice too!
Nice job BTW!
Banyan23 3 years ago
yes that is sweet too.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
Sweet bubbler. As far as cooling cell you would need a 100% stainless heat echanger. A transmission cooler wont work bec of elecrolyte.trans coolers are aluminum or copper. I am building a tube and shell cooler that i tig weld together. The only ones i found were for pharmacies and they are 6-700.00. I can put one together for roughly 130. I made one from copper just to test theory and it worked too well never over 100deg.stainless doesnt transfer heat as well so should work. will post plans
higherpoweredh2o 3 years ago
Just a responce to this but we are working with KOH so we need to keep everything SS or Ceramic to trancefer heat
deltahho 3 years ago
I look forward to seeing that.
Keep up the good work.
AH
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
looks cool, get some bubbles going there,stay away from the brass though, it will react with your lyle, you should be able to get nylon connections to match.
Cheers, Dan.
danburford58 3 years ago
What type of reaction happens?
I have seen many bubblers/cells with brass fittings, but no reports of any problems. If its bad, I would like to know.
TIA
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
People do stupid stuff all the time, look how many pwms are out there that don't need to be?. the reaction with low concentration of naoh will be noticeable by ,corrosion of the brass over time, the stronger the strength the more effect it will have, any reaction to materials is not welcome in your combustion chamber, if you used it with a 7series cell which needs about 340gms to the liter of koh, it would last a week.
danburford58 3 years ago
If someone does use large amounts of koh like you mentioned, then I guess it would be a problem. However I only use about 2 teaspoons of NaOH - some other folks I know have had cells with brass fittings for over 2 yrs & havent had any problems (granted they dont use much NaOH either).
I do go to the local restore & if they have any nylon fittings, I will probably pick them up just in case.
Thanks Dan.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
The Hydroxy group at yahoo is the place, you need to be a member but all the info is at your fingers.
ps i use these large amounts, lol.
Dan.
danburford58 3 years ago
ahhh I see - so if your using large amounts of NaOH & koh, perhaps I should invest before this HHO really kicks off.
;)
I will google & check out the yahoo group - thanks.
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago
exactly,also at hydroxy group you will find proven designs like the dry tero cell, or the mother load 101 plate which can produce 30ltrs min,or the yikes cell, once you join the site it will blow you away and your knowledge will skyrocket, honestly i have been doing this for about three years and there is no better site, especially for the beginner.you can message the designers directly, they are there for disscussion.
danburford58 3 years ago
Yeah, NaOH reacts with AL,brass,tin,zinc. The reaction will actually produce hydrogen, though less violently than AL. High temperature plastics are preferred. Natural Kynar fittings are the best, because they are rated "A" for acids and bases. Kybnar has an operating temp of up to 260 Degrees F. High density Polypropylene is also rated "A" for both acids and bases. PVC shows no effects. Nylon is okay, too. Polycarbonate will damage with bases.
Peace! and Be Safe! :-)
Steve w/installguys
InstallGuys 3 years ago
I will definitely keep that in mind. Thanks for the info.
Keep up the good work.
Steve aka AH
AlmostHydrogen 3 years ago