Shawn Lane 'Power Licks' Intro

[ViennaMoose]

AUGH HIS FUCKING RIGHT HAND

[MegaYoshitsune]

Some of this is from the power licks intro, truly minblowing stuff

[MegaYoshitsune]

@MegaYoshitsune Woops, my computer is lagging like crazy and I posted this on the wrong video

[randommoosebrains]

what tons of trolling here, lets just enjoy shawn lane and not get off to dumb flame wars guys.........

[biotoxin21]

i like his music better when is slower and shows more emotion. Not the nonsensical 2 billion 64th notes played at the speed of light.

[ExtremeBogom]

Gotta love a good flame.

[stevenoring]

Shawn Lane and Stanley Jordan... nobody else can touch them. Well maybe Govan and Holdsworth. Just maybe

[ExtremeBogom]

Oh yes. Holdsworth should be on the top of that tree.

The man created a whole new way of playing, pioneering many techniques before the 80's boom had even started.

Holdsworth is the unsung hero. The guitarist's guitarist.

If it wasn't for him; Shawn Lane, Guthrie Govan, Van Halen, Buckethead etc, would have drastically different styles.

[Sunderlanding]

@stevenoring Stanley Jordan? Guthrie Govan? I agree with Lane and Holdsworth, but please for the love of God leave those other two hacks out of it.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

Govan a hack? dude, that's fucking bullshit. lol govan is probably the most skilled guitarist alive today. there may be other guitarists whom are good, but seriously. govan and shawn are in a league of their own in terms of versatility, speed, accuracy, feel, etc...

[ExtremeBogom]

@moondancer33

I like Govan too, but I do think he is overrated along with Buckethead.

It would be nice to see Guthrie do some classical stuff some more.

[moondancer33]

@ExtremeBogom

nahhh, i think he should get more famous for his music before getting called overrated. xD guthrie, compared to other guitarists, does NOT have a very large fanbase.

and yes, that is one thing i agree with. i would like to see him play more classical.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Govan does have chops, but so what? There are a thousand videos of nobodys on here with chops. It's not that big of a deal. The problem with Govan is that he is incapable of playing anything original. Everything he plays sounds like it came out of the Mel Bay guide to shredding. He is the lowest form of musician.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

anything original? every time the guy improvises, he makes something original. i mean, the guy improvises better than most musicians write, ffs. and as for "original", just take a look at the guy's album. ive not heard solos like that, and ive been playing guitar myself for 15 years. govan, is completely unique in the aspects, that the guys has some of the most advanced skill on the planet. besides, he's got feeling to match it. i find it makes it quite a pleasure to listen to.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Original? Maybe if you've spent you're life listening to Nickleback that shit sounds original, but in reality his chord scale relationships sit somewhere between Dixieland and Top Gun. You need to listen to some different styles of music and quit wasting your time with Musak Shredders.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

other styles? dude. i listen to ALL styles, except for most country, rap, and opera. rock, jazz, blues, metal, techno, classical, instrumental, and the list goes on. nickelback is not included in bands i like, mind you, lol. and top gun, wtf are you smoking lmao. you're the one that needs to get your head out of your ass. if you knew anything about playing guitar, you'd know he's easily one of the world's finest. and ive been playing guitar for 15 years, before you say anything.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Ok then maestro, what has Govan done that's so fucking orginal? And don't give me this bullshit about he can play any style. Everything he plays sounds like it comes out of an instructional book. It's all cliches! He's never done anything new or unique.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

you ask me a question, then attempt a shitty answer for it in the same paragraph? you're getting ahead of yourself, lol. what has he done? look at just about all of his improv, no one lick is played twice. his album is a work of art, with nothing overdone or diminished in quality. sounds like it came from an instructional book... he puts together so many different scales and mode patterns together in one improvisation, it boggles minds.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 You're delirious. He uses the same diatonic scales all the time. The chord progressions are always just functional harmony. All his hooks sound like they should be on a soundtrack to Beverly Hills 90210. His idea of playing outside is maybe throwing in a couple chromatics, maybe a b3 before the 3. Wow as if that kind of chromatisism hasn't been done a million times already. His idea of jazz is just playing a lydian scale. Sorry but it takes more than that nowadays.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

which still means they're completely unique. tell me something, could you POSSIBLY think of, or play better solos? as for chord progressions, none are done the same. listen to ANY of his improvisions. his solos have so many different modes and scales, it' rediculous, and his little tricks, like the one done at the end of orange jam promo, are unique to govan, and govan alone. you're clearly the one who is delirious. get a music teacher, then get back to me.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

and as for unique, id love for you to find ANY guitarist who plays like he does. never does anything new or unique? he's ALWAYS been doing things new and unique. but i guess that's something your feeble mind isn't able to comprehend.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Like what? I'd love if you could come up with a musical example, but you can't because he hasn't done anything new. Just the same diatonic bullshit, and standard chord changes.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

wonderful slippery thing, ANY of his solos, sevens bridge, fives bridge, ner ner, along the tracks impro, funky blues, johnny winter improv... need i go on? honestly, i just came up with a bunch, just off the top of my head. i can easily tell you dont listen to much govan. probably one or two things, as i know for a fact you constantly argue with his fans, you're almost as bad as halcomb is, just i have to say, you have at least a hundred IQ over him, lol.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 ...but you don't know what you're talking about because all those solos use the same scales. I've heard all those songs before. I've heard the whole fucking album, and all his solos use the same scales, and the same types of functional harmony. If you knew anything about improvisation you'd realize that. Just because you through a couple chromatics in some lame diatonic noddling don't make you unique. It's basic shit man. Grow up.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

if you knew a single thing about improv, you'd realize, it's made up on the spot first of all. second, guthrie improvs different every time, with a different scale. why dont you look up the shit he uses, buy a few of the tabs, since you're clearly deaf. his runs are almost never the same, and when he does use the same scale, he'll play it a different way, nothing he plays is the same. and grow up? ive been playing guitar for 15 years, and ive been into solos for 15 years.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Improv is made up on the spot! You're bullshiting me? Really on the spot? ISN'T THAT WHAT THE FUCKING WORD MEANS YOU IDIOT!?! The fact that you even had to say that makes you an idiot beyond compare. I've seen the tabs. Listened to all his solos, and it's all the same shit man. It isn't exciting. He just plays some generic chord progression and then goes up and down the corresponding mode that's it. And it shouldn't take you 15 years to figure that out.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

well judging by your clearly inferior intellect, i was afraid i would have had to say it twice, you fucking jackass. it's not all the same shit, "man". it's what a person would call MUSIC. you wouldnt know what a chord was if it bit you, let alone trying to judge guthrie's playing style. up and down? you clearly are fucking deaf. it would take me more than 15 years to find errors like that in guthrie's work, and longer still to get you to take your head out of your ass.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

ive heard more "unique" sounds than you could dream of, and that is a fact. I know more about what im talking about here than you do, that is a fact. the scales are NOT the same, neither is the harmony, and if you still dont believe me, look up some of the tabs, then when you come up with another excuse, get back to me. do a little research before arguing a half-baked idea. Halcomb tried the same shit, and gave up.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Ok then. Tell me some unique sounds. Who are some players who changed the way we look at improvising, and chord scale relationships. With 15 years experiance it should be easy to name the people who changed harmony and soloing forever.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

to prove your point, you would want to ask a different question, Idiot. i could sit here and point out errors in your points, and your questions til i grow grey hair, but i find it much more fun watching you spin around in circles wondering what the fuck im talking about, and assuming im an idiot that doesnt know the difference between a c major and minor. when you can back your points up with your own sufficient evidence that i cannot counter, then talk to me. until then, gtfo.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding here's 5 pioneers. Eric Clapton Jimi Hendrix Jimmy Page Chet Atkins B.B King straight off the top of my head, too. want 5 more? Chuck Berry Eddie Van Hale- y'know what, you just wont understand.,, lol

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Wow you really do have a limited view of music. Not one Jazz player or Classical musician? All rock and blues. That explains why you think Govan is original. So tell me what did Eric Clapton start? What was he doing that no one else was? How about Jimi Page? What new chord scale relationship did he invent? Most of those guys didn't inovate they just immitated. Get back to me when you've taken a music history class.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

do you have any idea of how many styles of music there are? to give a couple example of all the styles of music would take up more than 500 characters. and not to mention, you said:

"Who are some players who changed the way we look at improvising, and chord scale relationships." you didnt ask me for players who invented new chord scales. besides, if you understood how music theory works, you could play just about practically ANY chord and make it work, you ignorant bastard.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

go back to grade school and learn how to properly formulate a question. had you said the question right, you might have gotten the answer you were looking for. i know more about music than you would ever know if you think people invented specific chords. there are millions of possible chords on a guitar, you stupid fuck. these guitarists practically invented guitar as it is today. without them, we wouldn't look at guitar the same.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

i could also mention the classical guitarist andres segovia, but judging on your limited music knowledge, you probably wouldnt even know who he is. go get a music teacher, you're out of your league. so shut your mouth, and fuck off, unless you have something specifically intelligent to add to this. Govan is one of the most skilled guitarists, encompassing many of the most impressive aspects of guitar, to this day. you have yet to prove me wrong.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Well you just proved what I thought. You know nothing about music. You're right I did ask for people who changed what we know about music. The people you mentioned did not they were just generic blues players playing the same licks and scales as those before them. Many people have invented new chord progressions, chords, and chord scale relationships. Stravinsky invented the 7#9 chord, Coltrane invented the "Coltrane Matrix" which is a revolutionary set of chord changes.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

ALL of the chords are invented, when one learns how they work. they are sounds, a person cannot invent sounds, you fucking RETARD. generic? are you fucking kidding me? man, you are the most retarded person ive ever met. at least halcomb knows when he's shown wrong. you just spew bullshit and hope to god that i think you know something. your pathetic "thoughts" prove nothing about what i know, as so far, you'e ranted on the same thing which ive proved wrong MULTIPLE TIMES NOW.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

chords as a whole have already been invented. with that, individual chords cannot be invented. if you know how a "chord" works, and how to translate to different shapes, then you already know how to play any chord. i mean for fucking sakes, do i have to talk to you like you're 5 years old? because if that's the case, then there is no point in arguing, because that would prove my point that guthrie is an amazing guitarist, and that you have no skill to argue otherwise.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Didn't you read what I just said. Stravinsky invented a chord. The 7#9.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

Look up 7#9 chord on the web, and tell me who it is most related to.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 It doesn't matter who it's most related to. Stravinsky was the first person to put a b3 and a 3 together in the same chord. In case you don't know yout theory that ends up being a 3 and a #9. Now the most common use of this chord was as a dominant (V) chord. That makes a 7#9! Obviously he didn't write it that way, being an orchestral composer he didn't write a lot of chord charts, but he did most certainly invent the chord.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Besides the chord itself isn't important. I'm just trying to illustrate that innovation in music is always possible. Just when people think it's all been done (like you) then someone comes along and changes what we think we know.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

innovation is, but it's simple logic, that if you know how a chord works, you can "invent" just about any chord in existence. to translate one to another, if you know how it works is trivial, so what's the big deal? innovation of a single thing doesnt compare when one changes the world view of guitar, all 7 people i mentioned contributed, and guthrie is going to revolutionize soloing once he gets big enough.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 The people you mentioned did nothing to change the guitar or music. That's what I've been saying you don't know what a real innovator is, and Mr. Govan certainly doesn't qualify. He hasn't come up with one new technique, chord progression, chord/scale relationship, or musical idea.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

coming up with new ideas does not mean he revolutionized music. let's say any one of those people didnt exist. guitar would not be the same. Guthrie hasnt qualified because he isn't well known yet. if he ever ends up with fame to the point that everyone knows him, he'll revolutionize more than just jazz/blues/rock. xD

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Clapton did nothing for guitar. Had he not existed the guitar world would be the same maybe even better. Same can be said for Govan. HE HASN'T DONE ANYTHING NEW THEREFORE HE WON'T EVER BE CONSIDERED AN INNOVATOR. That's the way it works. If that's a little to hard to understand go look up innovation and get back to me.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

are you fuckin kidding me? Eric Clapton is obviously not the best guitarist, but he sure as hell revolutionized the industry! ask anyone who knows something about music. then show them clips of well done music by either of them, i guarantee you'll get slapped across the face for how stupid you're sounding. inventing something has FUCK ALL to do with changing the guitar industry, you stupid twat. why dont you reply when you've grown the balls to admit you're wrong, kid.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Ok smart guy. What did Clapton do, musically, that no one else had done before? What did he do, specifically, to revolutionize the music industry?

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

you're still saying the same shit, retard! a person doesn't have to come up with anything new to revolutionize something! what he did, was use what was already there, in a new and interesting way. not a person plays like him. nor does anyone play like guthrie. nobody played like hendrix, or lane, etc.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

if you think music is all about the notes, then you miss the bigger picture. the chosen notes hold a meaning, even if they've been invented before, it's the point of music! the meaning is what matters, not the notes. who cares if a person hasnt invented a new note, or chord, does it mean they suck? clapton revolutionized music with his playing style, just like lane did. or carlton.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

or anyone else who's half decent for that matter! if you truly think that inventing something new is everything in music, then you should shut up RIGHT NOW, because at that point, there's clearly no reason to argue with you, and that you clearly know NOTHING about music.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer 33 Neither Clapton nor Govan have radically changed music, therefore they are not revolutionary.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

Govan, not yet. like i said, he needs more fame first. clapton, you couldnt be more wrong. so many of today's musicians look up to him, and before you say it, they're not all "shit" musicians. Clapton is world wide known for a reason, and whether you like it or not, it's there. a person who is world wide known isn't there for no reason.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 ...but he didn't change music. Music was the same before and after he came along. Same with Guthrie, and he never will change music because he's too busy practicing the wrong things. Having a bunch of boring yuppies think you're a good guitarist is not the same as changing music, and you need to figure that out.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

actually, the fact of having fans who look up to you, means they learn what you play. learn what you do on guitar, cause they wanna be just like you when they grow up. it's called an INFLUENCE, KNUCKLEHEAD. take a look at who influenced some of today's great guitarists, there will be a GOOD few who were influenced by clapton.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 You said he was revolutionary. In order to be revolutionary you must bring about radical change. He didn't change anything. Therefore he isn't revolutionary. It isn't my fault you don't understand the words you use.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

i understand them better than you do. he is revolutionary, because there are many people that looked up to him that are becoming famous now. look up the things im talking about if you dont understand them, and stop making shit up. he changed the music industry, so did the rest of the people i mentioned, and govan will too if he gets famous enough, and i can guarantee that.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 It doesn't matter if people look up to him. That doesn't make him revolutionary. LOOK UP THE FUCKING DEFINITION OF THE WORD YOU STUPID IDIOT! Those people just play the same lame ass licks that Clapton spent a liftime stealing from other people. They were around before him and they're still around, and thanks to him there are now a bunch of dumb fucks like you who think that it's somehow worthwhile. Stealing other peoples stuff and making a career out of it is not radical change.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

it's called radical fucking change when every person who knows something about guitar will know of clapton if you ask about him you stupid SON OF A BITCH. you honestly know fucking NOTHING about music, but then again, i could see that right off the bat once you told me govan was a hack. you fucking retard, listen to this, and listen well. YOU DONT HAVE TO MAKE SOMETHING NEW TO BE REVOLUTIONARY.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 You have to change something to be revolutionary. Clapton didn't change anything. Not even the licks he stole. 

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

clapton created new ways of sounding off his guitar, and new combinations that people havent done. besides, if he stole his licks and sounds, he wouldnt have become famous. he's one of the most famous guitarists on the planet today, he did NOT get there by stealing guitar licks.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 He did steal licks and sounds and he did become famous. Why? Because most people, just like you, are stupid and ignorant, and don't know a fucking thing about music. Name one lick or phrase he came up with? Explain to me in musical terms just one thing he came up with on his own? You can't just say he did something new and not back it up. So what is it maestro?

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

did i say he came up with something completely new and out of the ordinary? i said he used what was there, and turned it into his own. in your mind, he's a copy cat who's made art? and i'm stupid and ignorant, and dont know anything? look at what you've been typing ffs! you've got an intelligence worse than halcomb you fucking stupid bastard!

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 How did he make it his own? Once again just saying it doesn't mean it's true. Give me an example.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

I did. have you heard him play a song under a name he created himself, that was an exact copy, or even remotely a copy from another song?

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 All his songs sound like someone else because he stole everything! Tell me one song where his sound isn't a rip off of a syle already out there.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

you're the ignorant one, because you're expecting me to come up with everything, despite the fact that you're coming up with nothing. you cannot prove he stole any of those licks he used, because technically, EVERYONE stole licks in your thinking. and what kind of fucking thought process is that you fuckin retard? why dont you learn to respect when you've made a mistake, instead of trying to cover it up like a 5 year old. -_-;;

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 I already backed up the people I said were revolutionary. Remember? John Coltrane invented the Coltrane matrix. Stravinsky invented the 7#9 chord. Now it's your turn. Back your shit up, or don't you know anything about music?

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

you gave two examples. and if im still arguing valid points for this long, i obviously know something about music. I heard of clapton before i heard of coltrane. and i've only recently heard of stravinsky. tell me something. do you know what the man's name was who invented the boot? or perhaps the man who invented the guitar. what about the man who invented the first computer, or the c chord. or do you know the makes of them more.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 ...and you haven't made a valid point yet. You are incapable of making a musical point. I'm still waiting, as a matter of fact that's the only reason I keep arguing. I'm waiting to see if you ever make an actual musical point or if you just keep rambling about how he's famous so he must be good, because you're too stupid to think for yourself about why he's good. There is no why because he isn't. He's a fucking hack and you're an ignorant tool who'll never understand music.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

you havent made ANY points yet. im clearly superior to you in the UNDERSTANDING of music, whereas you look at nothing but the music notes. what the fuck is the point then? you're supposed to understand the MEANING, not the notes, that's the point. you just clearly dont get it. if you're going to continue arguing like a fucking idiot, expecting me to agree with your stupidity, then you may as well go away now. i've by FAR proved my point, you retarded piece of shit.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

fame = close to nothing, but it for sure means something. if they got there, it's not cause some idiot randomly paid them a million to sing, and people there just happened to like the person. but look at guthrie. he's not famous and one of the best guitarists there is. and ive proved this time over, and time again. AND YOU STILL DONT LISTEN. you're fucking dead. a canker. a sore that wont go away, and a fucking retard. you know nothing about the subject, and ive proved that too.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 So what did Guthrie do that makes him so great? What did Clapton do that makes him so great? I'm still waiting for a musical point, but again you just went back to popularity. 100% of the people don't think Clapton is good. Actually almost every serious musician I've ever met thinks he sucks. So what did he do? No more insults or pissing contests just tell me what he did that he's worthy of recognition?

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

guthrie, is by far, the most technical player alive today, not one compares. he studied guitar, and studied it WELL. he can play any kind of music there is out there, and he has an individual style. and before your stupidity takes over, HIS STYLE IS UNIQUE. find me a single guitarist that plays like him. same with clapton. you still haven't explained where they stole their ideas from. there's a fine line between stolen and changed. that line is clearly invisible to you. sigh.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

clapton, was easily one of the most influential ones, he practically created his own branch from the style when he played. his songs were completely unique, and he practically re-defined the style he was playing in.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Ok if Clapton is so unique just name one song of his that is a true original. Just one. Name it no more bullshit. Oh and just for your information Guthrie is not technically the best guitarist on the planet. There are a lot of people who can play like that. It's just a syle, shred, and there are lots of unknowns and knowns who can speed pick, sweep and tap. Some can even do it without a lame ass string muter. Guthrie can suck my balls.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

you're retarded. any of his songs are original. if they weren't, he wouldnt have made all the money he did off of it. and guthrie can play tapping without the string muter, it's to silence the buzzing above the frets. ever heard of antoine dufour? he's a renowned fingerstyle guitarist, and uses a handkerchief to do the same thing. that buzzing is normal in guitar. if you knew that, you wouldnt be bitching about it. as for one song, "bad love" was written by him.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 If Guthrie could play all his shit without the muter he would. It's as simple as that. Some people can do it without one and they do. I realize what it's for, but some people can mute with their hand. If Clapton has so many original songs it should be easy to name one. So name it. Just give me one example. Or can't you name any songs that are original?

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

that's a little more with physics, rather than muting. and are you going to bring your hand to the headstock to mute the buzzing? ALL guitars buzz up there, no matter the quality, and you cannot mute that unless you bring your hand to the headstock, OR do what guthrie does. instead of calling that un-needed and skill-less, call it innovative. and as for the example, i posted that in my last comment, you retarded fuck. -_-;;

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Actually there are a lot of guitarist who can do it without putting thier hand or a muter on the headstock. The reason for the muter is to mute the other note that occurs when you tap. You see when you tap the note you tap occurs, but there is another note behind your tapping hand that is generated as well. This is what the string muter gets rid of. It has nothing to do with headstock buzzing. I don't know where the fuck you got that one. I'm still waiting for that Clapton song.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

where I got that one? it's common knowledge. the ringing that you get above the nut. antoine uses a muter as well, and he doesnt do tapping like that. the ringing up there can be really annoying, especially if you're playing into a mic, or if you're playing through an amplifier. and since you clearly didnt see the clapton song i told you about, i'll repeat it. "bad love" was written, and performed by clapton.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 I've never had a problem with buzzing above the nut, but maybe your guitar sucks, or maybe you do. Anyway, Bad Love that's the best you got? First off Clapton didn't write that song he co-wrote it with Mick Jones because Clapton is incapable of writting a song on his own. Furthermore that song is the most generic cheezeball 80's rock with Clapton rambling his stolen pentatonic licks over top. The solo is ineffectual nonesene with no memorable melodies and the lyrics are trite.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

buzzing above the nut is common. especially if there aren't fret locks there, then it's truly annoying. my guitar prevents that, as it's an expensive guitar, worth about 6 grand, and 12 years old. but then again, only a proper guitarist would understand these problems, which you clearly know nothing about it. now, that song was #1 for 3 weeks, so it's obviously not a shit song. and 3 songs written by him, would be "wonderful tonight", "i cant stand it", and "my father's eyes".

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 "I'm not that innocent" was #1 for three weeks as well. So I guess Britney Spears is as much of a musical genius as Clapton. Actually, I think that sounds about right.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding different style of music all together. different age group appeal. and was only good in a time dominated by pop. even bringing her up, gives you the IQ of a gerbel, as she clearly has no merit to your argument, nor to the unanswered question i asked you.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 That's right people were smarter in the '80s. Fucking idiot. Anyway, I don't really care I was just waiting around to see what Clapton song you thought was a good example of his revolutionary music skills. I thought maybe you had heard some strange underground Clapton I was unaware of, but in reality you're just a musical ignoramous. You even picked a bad song by his standard! I probably know more about his career than you, and I can't stand him. Anyway, it's been fun now FUCK OFF.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

sorry i couldnt get your 2nd grade intelligence to comprehend that guthrie is actually a proper guitarist. the entire point of the argument, which you were cowardly for sidetracking, was that he's an amazing guitarist. everything he's written is original, he is the most technical guitarist alive atm, and about 90%< of actual guitarists like him from the first time they hear him. you've yet to prove that wrong.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

as for clapton, you were arguing the wrong point. you asked me who revolutionized the guitar industry, clapton did that. along with the others I mentioned. and once again, incase you decide to spew bullshit again,a person does not have to make anything new, to revolutionize. on all the points i mentioned, you could not come up with a single point yourself i could not counter. so sorry, but you're a retard and a troll. go learn music, it'll get you farther in arguments like this.

[XfuckiutubeX]

@moondancer33 JAJAJA SHAWN LANE RULES NOOBS

[XfuckiutubeX]

@Sunderlanding SHAWN LANE RULES NOOB X2

[Sunderlanding]

@XfuckiutubeX That's what I was saying moron.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

now tell me, since you've clearly led me off topic here. since you're clearly into the technical side of guitar, and do not give a shit about the feeling of it, who is better with technique than Guthrie is.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

now what clapton did, was took what was already there, and did something new WITH it. he found a way to be revolutionary and didnt invent any new chord or scale, now in your book that probably means he's a god, since it's CLEARLY impossible to be a great guitarist if you haven't invented something to make it better. does that mean every cover of a song is a piece of shit, just because it was a cover?

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

now I need to keep in mind, you're a fucking troll, I shouldnt even bother wasting my breath on someone who gets kicks out of arguing with people. didn't expect to come up against someone who knew more about the subject than yourself, did you, you fucking queer. now for the hundredth time, go study music, and maybe learn to play guitar, before arguing with a musician who's job is to teach guitar, and does a VERY good job of it.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Oh, and in regards to covers. Yes if you play a cover the exact same way it is a piece of shit, but if you change it and bring your own approach to it then it's art. What's the point in playing a cover the same way? It's like an insult to the band..."Yea you guys were close, but not quite."

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

"change it and bring your own approach to it"

complete contradiction, and let me tell you why.

according to your logic, to make it art, you'd need to change something in it. but the sorry fact is, there wouldnt be anything new in it, so therefore it's stolen from somewhere other than the cover, and therefore it's bullshit anyway. if you look at it the way you have been, it means that about 90% of todays guitarists and bands are complete bullshit.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 You're so stupid it's funny. You don't even know what the words you're trying to use mean! If you change a cover it becomes different. If it's different it's not the same. Do you see how this works?

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

i'm so stupid? read your own writing you dumbass. "if it's different it's not the same" none of clapton's songs are the same as anyone else, which automatically makes them different and NOT stolen from another person. you're completely retarded, stop thinking before you hurt yourself.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 Which song is different from anybody else? Please do back something up.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

yet plenty bands in this 90% i just referred to have made millions and millions of dollars off of sold records. and y'know what that means? you're one of a kind in your way of thinking.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 That's right because if you make millions and millions of dollars you must be a musical genius. Just look at Nickleback, Britney Spears, The Jonas Brothers, Miley Cirus. All musical geniuses according to your logic. Hey, maybe one day you'll be able to think for yourself and you won't have to read Rolling Stone to figure out what good music is. Until then enjoy asshole!

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

you're just using a few idiots as my examples. take a look at proper bands or artists. michael angelo, steve vai, metallica, guns n roses, the beatles, or other solo artists, and perhaps other bands. and i dont listen to another person's opinion on who's good with music, because unlike you, i dont look at the notes, i feel them while they're played. when you can see the difference between those two situations, then talk to me.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 You're still not backing anything up, and please Michael Angelo? You really have no idea do you? That asshole is even worse than Clapton.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

that was an example, of someone who looks at theory more than feeling. now if you switch to someone like BB king, or perhaps clapton again, you'll see what i mean. oh wait! you already do. "he's worse than clapton" and why's that? batio's style is more unique, IT MUST BE SOMETHING ELSE. feeling is more important than looking at the notes.

[Sunderlanding]

@moondancer33 See you just don't understand. You know NOTHING about music. Batio is not original. All his shit had been done before, by better players. Just like Clapton. Nothing new, nothing original, and nothing worth remembering.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

then why is it clapton is one of the most remembered guitarists? it's clearly not 100% of this population that is retarded or knows NOTHING about music, as you say it.

[moondancer33]

@Sunderlanding

i mean, the guy released 1 album, and there are already many people saying he's just about the best and most tasty soloist there is today. imagine when he releases multiple ones, goes world wide. he's far from a hack, and i can pick a random 10 of any of my friends who have never heard him, and i can guarantee they'll be blown away.

[AnnihilatingAngel]

Shawn was the absolute final word in ultra-fast legato playing.

[Socomite]

Shawn plays so effortlessly... his playing always has that playfulness in the melodies. That's why he was one of the greatest imo

[RNRDOLL]

thats fuckin fast...but not very musical at all. Pur masturbatory wank offery.

[ExtremeBogom]

That's an opinion.

[MrFrankPilato]

my idol!

[ultimateguitar553]

who is Shawn Lane???!!!!

Hes the guy whos gonna melt your face

[eastonmackay]

angeleterium used to have this whole vid on here where the frick has it gone?

[oilkills]

Dear Darling Diane... thank you!

[ZSwordProductions]

I wonder what Shawn could have done in Metal.

[Crazyguitarman1991]

metalheads probably wouldnt have liked him, but he inspired a bunch of shredders, and metal guitarists, so he did have an impact on metal i think.

[Zappacho]

I love metal, but I can imagine Shawn was too intelligent for normal rock music, if you know what I mean.

[Crazyguitarman1991]

yea i know what you mean, and i agree totally..

[ExtremeBogom]

@Crazyguitarman1991

I disagree. Most metal heads I know who have seen Lane, love him.

I'm a fan of metal too.

[xthisisapersonx]

Lol, pretty sure the answer is everything XD

[kungfuman82]

I'm getting this video TONIGHT

[shredfusion1]

shawn is good!!!!!!!

[nicometal88]

Sahwn is God!!!

[drummer48]

the color part is gray pianos flying

[Mourningstar417]

are you sure its not "not again"

[drummer48]

o yea it is sorry lol, it sounds different and recorded because of tempo and tone sorry again

[ymiappf]

the b/w bit isnt very musical

[Crazyguitarman1991]

actually i think its the most musical in this video, but its not the standard "melodic" guitar wankery.

[Beyondward]

i didn't like the first black and white playing, i mean the licks were masterful, but the color playing is much better.

[3eyedho]

2:00 to end, very Eric Johnson like! Guy's slammin'!

[1thousandstrats]

i posted this clip as well.... :-(