Your all idiots. event the ones who see some wrong dont understand what it is that is really wrong. cant wait for their time to be on the bottom. none of them will know what to do except cry for their mommy. stock pile-food,vitamins, weapons/ammo, and a plan to get out of the way. even racist idiots have an opinion of here.
These people were bear sprayed for doing nothing!!! Sure, they ripped open the fence and grabbed police officers... SO WHAT!!! They were bear sprayed for being BLACK!!! RACIST COPS!!
so the white people who were sprayed were black? How many cops were black? Its not a race thing. Its an economic thing. "they" dont care what color you are anymore.
I dont care if those peoples live in mold infested rat holes. I think its funny. I just like the idea of kicking them out and turning those turdholes into luxury condos that none of them can afford. It might make them a little happier. You know give them something to complain about.
These are NOT hippie protesters.GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY THE PEOPLE IS AN IDEA THAT DIES HARD BUT IT IS BEING MURDERED IN NEW ORLEANS. I GREW UP IN NEW ORLEANS AND I HAD FRIENDS IN THE PROJECTS! ALL PEOPLE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. But NOBODY BUT RICH WHITE YUPPIES will be able to afford to live there now.
They ARE professional protester hippie types, and they are not trying to make it only affordable to rich people.
Look, you aren't SUPPOSED to saty in projects. It's supposed to be temporary. The rest of us have to struggle to survive. Did you see the woman with luxury items in her house saying she couldn't kame rent, but wouldn't sell her luxuries because she doesn't have to live poor just because she is poor? That kind of attitude is sickening.
I love how they are shaking the gate screaming "let us in", and then when the gate busts open they all just stand there. Doesn't seem like they really wanted to get in. Looks like they were more interested in just yelling about it.
Seems like they outnumbered the cops and the door was open...why were they screaming "Let us in" instead of "Let's go in"?
All you idiots are doing is putting your faces on camera so they can keep a file on you in their new biometric database.
You werent even there. You think just because you saw this footage, you know every single detail that occured enough to call them "idiots". Shut the fuck up.
Are they stopping the demolition? Did they care about how you felt about it?
They don't care about what you think. They don't represent you. They represent the rich. Protesting is meaningless. The only reason this country allows it is so that "radicals" can blow off some steam so they won't actually DO anything.
That's why democracy is so effective. You seem to have fallen into the trap.
If that's democracy, then it needs a overhaul. N.O. City Council will all have to answer to God for what they allowing to take place. And against their own (citizens). New Orleans will never recover if the culture isn't preserved. Thank you "Uncle Tom" Nagin and the city council.
It is democracy. A democratic government is a GOVERNMENT -- meaning a body that governs people. They don't listen to what you say. You listen to what they say. That's how governments work, democratic, socialist, or fascist. You people need to wake up and realize that protesting to politicians is never going to fix ANYTHING. They probably just went to Emeril's afterwards and laughed about it all over cocktails...
Are you kidding? Did you miss 90% of the video? They were threatened to be tasered - and sprayed with pepper gas or whatever that was. And seeing this agression in those eyes of some of the cops...
I'm sure you know how you would have reacted there in that situation for sure... well, just do it. Lead the way next time.
"They were threatened to be tasered - and sprayed with pepper gas or whatever that was"
No. They were told to back off the fence, and refused, THEN they were threatened with all of that which the police HAVE to do if the idiots can't remain orderly. Sorry you don't like law and order, but that's how it is. Maybe you can go somewhere that anarchy rules.
Finally, something will be done about the permanent welfare class in New Orleans. This may actually turn around the urban areas. Give the local economy a chance to flourish, get rid of the trash and bums.
You, tharnax, are one of the "permanent welfare class", with lots of privilege and access to capital, a healthy income of the backs of others and all despite your obvious bigotry, hatred, racism and total lack of intelligence and talent ~ Real critical thinking there in your assessment Bubba~ real compassion for your neighbors ~ Oh! That's right the poor are not your neighbors ~ save your opinions for gated elite white St. Tammany enclave
Every American has access to capital, are you telling me that a person with a job cannot get a Credit Card? Stupid. If you think I make a living off the backs of the poor, then think again fool! I have to work and pull my own weight just like every other person in America. You are right about one thing: I would never be neighbors with trash like this. My kids live in a safe neighborhood and go to a nice private school, thank God.
Where did you go to school? Please let me know so I can be sure not to send my kids to the 'School of Limited Bigoted Mentality'.
I seriously doubt you actually work. But I have no doubt there are many others, more intelligent & hardworking, that are propping up your mean-spirited ass......
We're all real impressed with you.....
So, I am assuming we can rest assured that you won't buy one the market-rate homes in HUD's Hope VI new 'mixed-income' developments? Right?
The video wasn't created by youtube, so is this your way of trying to have a smart answer? The bombing of the levees has happened before. Get the book by John M. Barry entitled Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and how it Changed America, 1997 which has incidentally become heavily in demand after Katrina.
that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm a witness, sir! my family's witnesses. two days after the storm passed the levees broke. power was down, so unless you had a battery-operated radio, no one knew the levees broke. the sun broked and it appeared all was good.
to not be there and base your assessments only on the History Channel isn't a strong argument against those such as myself who were there to witness this horrific event! You wasn't there and want to argue with me? and I'm a N.O. survivor? that's my point!!!
I'm done with you. You haven't said a thing about the investigation and have the nerve to argue with an New Orleanian about what actually happened?! Please!
I haven't had the chance to read the investigation yet. I've been trying to eat my lunch and argue with you about weather or not the levees broke as a direct result of Katrina. I do agree however, we're done. You've allowed your emotions to overpower your capacity for rational debate.
You refute my logic based on the fact that I was not an eyewitness. My logic being, the levees broke as a direct result of hurricane Katrina. Therefore, according to you, the levees were going to break on that day anyway regardless of the weather. Am I correct? Is that what you think?
ONE MORE TIME, KATRINA BROKE THE LEVEES!!! Whether it hit "directly" or not. You're right the devastation could've been worse. An asteroid could've slammed into the Convention Center during the storm, killing everyone.
Katrina hit and everyone said "look how horrible, just as they predicted". They have those Discover/History Channel "Disaster" shows for a reason. They're real threats.
the hurricane turned just in time. we got a lot of wind and rain, yes! from the outer wall of the storm. we were not directly hit. had that happened, the devastation would be worst.
Actually the bulk of the rain and wind damage happens on the West side of Hurricanes (and Tornadoes). The Levees broke because all the rain and storm surge that went on land was trying to get back to sea...the levees were slowing the process and as everyone know Nature wins all battles!
You're free to live wherever you want. But if you live in places like N.O., the Caribbeans, S.F., or coastal Indonesia you assume a certain level of risk.
No one should build housing (public or private) below sea level for the same reasons you shouldn't build housing next to an active volcano. What would happen if yet another hurricane destroys New Orleans after they rebuild? Would they all move back AGAIN? That would be a colossal defiance of reason and sound judgment.
again not all of new orleans is below sea level. it's a fact. according to your logic, no one should live in N.O. or the caribbeans (hurricanes),or San Fransisco (quakes), or Indonesia (tsunami),etc.
that's what our gov't appointed, I guess. don't know much about COE's history, but they're responsible. just like the gov't responsible of our bridges as well. and you saw the results of that.
iyarah. Your arguments may be valid and I certainly appreciate you compassion, but you've overlooked the one factor that has influenced this situation the most. This is what happens when a category 5 HURRICANE clouts a city below sea level. New Orleans has essentially been completely destroyed along with many areas along the gulf coast (we never hear of strangely enough).
reason being, and I'm sure iyarah will agree with me on THIS one, people think it was the hurricane that destroyed most of N.O. this is false! It was failure of the levees that devistated N.O and the metro area. Something that could have been prevented if the COE would've done their jobs correctly
"HANO's accounting department is a mess. Staffers deposit funds to the wrong accounts, in incorrect amounts and fail to provide a basic level of documentation and accountability.
"The HANO inspection process is a joke. The standards vary from inspector to inspector, and many criteria for immediate failure are petty and unsupported by national building codes... Nathaniel Phillips - New Orleans
HANO is recognized as perhaps the most dysfunctional public housing program in the US -- & HUD has been running it for years. Most of the already overworked and underpaid pre-Katrina HANO staff were let go and the few current employees are terribly overworked.
another myth/lie: People do not want to come back to New Orleans. There are hundreds of vacant empty subsidized apartments just waiting for people to move in -- no one wants to take them.
FACT: At various times over the past 2 years, HUD and HANO have proclaimed that they had hundreds of vacant traditional public housing units ready to be occupied but people just did not want to come home.
Each time, these numbers were revealed to be false numbers and gross overstatements. For apartments which actually are made available, the delays in filling those much fewer apartments were because of bureaucratic guidelines and dysfunction at HANO.
HANO first offers the available apartment to its previous occupant (who is also told that they can wait for the mythical promised new apartments) -- a process that usually takes 60 days; then the apartments are offered for a period of time to a select list held by HANO; only after that entire process are they offered to the displaced people from other developments.
nope you are informed, knight. MYTH: There really is no housing problem, it is just outside agitators who are making it seem like New Orleans has a housing problem.
In December 2007, the national research group POLICYLINK issued a report "FEWER HOMES FOR KATRINA'S POOREST VICTIMS -- An analysis of subsidized homes in post-Katrina New Orleans." The report concluded that HUD and HANO have only approved resources to restore a third of the pre-Katrina stock of subsidized homes in New Orleans.
iyarah, there's housing problems all over the country.. take a trip to DC. That's not my point. My point is people are babbling without knowing all the facts. I sure hope you've read the motion passed. If not, here's a briefing:
* permenant vouchers
* 1 to 1 construction (with every affordable house demo's HUD MUST replace)
* some existing units MUST be renovated for living while other construction is ongoing.
I'm hip to what's taking place in DC, ATL, Oakland, Chi-town. And people like you are babbling. and you're foolish to think they this plan will work as the city council presented. HUD/City Council/Nagin are all part of this gentrification plan that's been in effect for over 20 yrs.
these stipulations MUST be met, there's no getting around them. In fact HUD HAS to prove they can meet all what's required before they even get the permits.
it's an illegal transaction. remember, HUD's Alphozo Jackson is currently under federal investigation for this and handing out private, non-bidding contracts to his friends and business associates.
Don't get me wrong I am for affordable housing. People need homes. But can we humanely send these people back to substandard dwellings? Would you feel better knowing that you sent these people back to the slums they lived in previously? Those people are living 10x better in other states, you think they'd move back to a downgrade?
yeah, thats why there's also the "board" clause in the motion. The guy is going to do time for sure. But, even if I were against this as you are, where would we get the funding to renovate the current projects? HUD won't fund it because they are death traps. Our ONLY option for funded affordable housing is to meet the federal standards and these structures don't and can't meet them.
he's amole. several protesters claim this guy's always at some demonstration/protests trying to agitate. he's probably in NOPD HQ's plotting his next move.and check the report from policylink if you truly want an answer for funding. and renovating would be less expensive.
oh come on! St Benard, Desire, Lafitte were all substandard even when they were built! There were even talks if they should even be built. HUD had nothing to do with that. Have you been to MLK in Algiers? It's the base model of what's going up downtown. If not, Go see and talk to the peeps there.
Ok so you seen the model, then why are you against this? You've seen the rise of self esteem these people have, and you are against this? You've asked them if they rather their own homes, and yet you are against this?
wrong again. I'm not against this, so stop assuming. the materials used to build these new homes I wouldn't use on my own home. it's cheap. see it for yourself. now about the report...
and those buildings were built to last. that's why it's still standing today. and have you seen the homes that replaced the Desire after the flood? uninhabitable and it couldn't withstand the water with its cheap lumber. and this this the model HUD wants to use.
ok so wait, sorry, let me get us on the same page here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is that you are not against the rebuilding, you are against the assumption of how and what they are being built?
I'm against the gentrification of the poor. Especially towards minorities. I am against the demolition. those buildings can be renovated at a lesser cost to the city. but that's never been a factor since it's all about removing the poor from the downtown areas so that middle/upper class can take over.
No sorry, I'm a contractor, there is no way those buildings can be renovated for less. The outer structure IS sound. But in order to get them up to federal standards they would need to be Completely gutted. You have asbestos insulation, under par electric and plumbing, I'm not so much worried about the lead paint that easily cured. ventallation is terrible ductwork would have to be totally redone. not to mention the new ordinance about base height.
and there were architects that actually did renovated a few apts. with very little money to boot. then the cops threw them out, but they made their point.
and if what you say about these buildings not able to renovate, than explain why some of the Iberville was renovated and now tenants reside there again?
well cool. but I cannot stand those ignorant people with their "BUMS', "welfare-recipiant", "drug-addict" remarks. Crime has risen even more in post-Katrina. can't say it's because of the projects now. Crime is everywhere, and it's unfair to judge. Hard-working folks lived in those projects as well.
I totally agree. the ignorance on BOTH sides of the issue is our problem. People want to rant just to rant. People resort to name calling because they have no relevant statement to say. I love our city and it's people. We as TRUE New Orleaneans need to come together and try to find a mutual solution.
I don't think either of us came here with foolishness. I just think our messages are being muffled by people who don't know or who don't want to know.
and while you're checking out the sites I've mentioned, look into HUD and Alphonzo Jackson's investigation. even more reason not to trust them or our city gov't.
oh, Atty. Bill Quigley can be reached at Quigley@loyno (.edu) for more info or if anyone wants to dispute his findings. should have mentioned this earlier, but some folks may not take a liking to him.
The citizens are greater than the tyranny of the few. Protests like this, direct confrontation between citizens and money, citizens and institutions, will become more common, not more rare.
Down with the tyranny of elites! Down with it now!
You're both right (iyarah and tharnax). It's not the role of government to provide for its citizens. The role of government is to ensure its citizens have equal opportunity to provide for themselves. It's the role of CITIZENSHIP that obligates us to take care of our fellow Americans in distress (i.e. churches, synagogues, secular charities, private donations, fundraisers, pro-bono, etc.) as they are, and always will be, OUR FELLOW AMERICANS.
Appreciate your constructive response. You are quite correct, government continues to fail to reduce poverty. Private citizens are much more effective at helping the poor in the short-term.
The govt doesnt have a problem with corporate welfare. The corporations have more rights and oppurutinities then People. We have a energy bill that helps the oil companys make money. Everything is regualted by the govt, people werent poor when they openly tradeing and were paid a fair wage. its a fact that they favor stocks over wages so eventualy the dollar will be worthless to keep stock prises up ad rich people rich.
and that's the bottom line. look, I went after tharnax because the people are standing up for their rights as citizens of N.O. and the U.S. and all he can do is post negative comments. At least 3 people bet. the 3 protest videos (not including myself) got on this person for the same thing. Shouldn't mock the poor.
Telling your local government not to tear down public housing is like telling a compass not to point North. Once the opportunity for gentrification presents itself, it's inexorable.
Truth be told iyarah, they will never rebuild public housing to accommodate even pre-Katrina levels. They'll rebuild just enough to say that they have. They will take advantage of the diaspora of government dependency and develop blighted areas to attract a more affluent demographic as tharnax has stated. Development companies make millions, local officials line their pockets, and the city eventually achieves greater tax revenue as a result.
so uglyAmerican..Where are the poor people in your equation? I mean, where are the poor supposed to go? Are they supposed to just lay down and wait to die in the street? What kind of a system is this? It is just a shame what I see going on New Orleans and all the other poor communities in America..
zizazi10. "where are the poor supposed to go?" Well, according to New Orleans, anywhere but there. Thats not an argument in support of their decision by the way. I cant imagine enduring that kind of hardship but its reality.
What kind of a christmas spirit is this, tharnax? Did you forget it is christmas...Be nice to your fellow human being. Why do you say poor people suck? It is nasty and unkind and shows how vulger and ignorant you are..
I feel most folks who are here posting counter-productive, negative comments don't want the citizens of N.O. to stand up, zizazi10. They do want the poor to lie down in defeat and die. We've seen the comments. No heart, some of them. Well I hope all of them enjoy their Christmas holiday.
asking people to comment on our dispute to garnish sympathy for yourself, then mock the poor with your ridiculous racist comments. I'll address you from here on as I've just done, if at all. You've proven your adgenda, agitator!
What you people don't realize is that the people that were raiding the gates paved the way for the pepper spray and the mace that ensued. It was not the fault of the officers or the people on the outskirts, it was the fault of the people who jumped the gates, and yanked on them, forcing the officers to use "neccessary force!" New Orleanians should have more common sense than to f*** with the police.
if you look closely at the video, only white agitators and possible moles were shaking the gates. they started this yet the one guy with the long grey hair/beard was handled quite differently from the others. he was neither pepper sprayed nor tased, yet he got inside with the help of the police (nice touch putting him in cuffs to give the appearance of arresting the guy).
they're not because there isn't free housing. the residences' rent was based on a sliding scale to coincide with the pay wages. anyone who's from N.O. knows that 3-4 yrs. ago hotels workers picketed to create new unions and better pay. the city council in their way (again)and it never materialize.
Many people who come to this video may notice the previous argument between myself and iyarah. Please read the entire discussion and form your own opinions about our positions as well as who is addressing the core problems that this video refers to. Thank You for watching YouTube.
HA. You're actually advertising COMMENTS from another video. Priceless. I can't wait to read them. Do you guys offer any guarantee? If I read these comments and find them either absurd, erroneous, or redundant will you promise never to comment again?
Well iyarah and tharnax, I subscribed myself to your recommendation and reviewed your previous comments. I read compelling arguments such as "you talk too much shit" and inspiring rebuttals such as "you're not as good a name-caller as I am!" To describe your intellectual debate as "spellbinding" would be an understatement. I now have a splitting headache and I'm holding you both accountable to reimburse me for medical expenses I incurred as a result. You both owe me two Tylenol.
Yankee cops trying to blind people again. Next time they start spraying, rush them and take their freaking eyes out with your fingers. Yankees are all evangelicals right?, So you're all religious freaks anyway, pull an eye-for-an-eye on them, this passive resistance crap doesn't work on death cults and sadists. Of course Yankees are all cowards so we can't expect you to stand up for your own rights let alone ours, you all deserved it, work harder next time.
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"Artists today need to re-examine their priorities. The mindless party has gone on long enough and, if the chronic infrastructural deterioration is not addressed shortly, then we will have the opportunity to dance our lives away upon the deck of a sinking ship."
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"The country has no dearth of sports stadiums, concert venues, nightclubs, amusement parks, shopping malls, movie theaters, golf courses, and other facilities dedicated toward hedonism and consumerism. Yet, in terms of hospitals, firestations, schools, soldiers' barracks, police stations, etc., there is hardly a community today that is not in a state of alarming deficit."
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"Moreover, the New Orleans tragedy has shone a spotlight upon the lack of redundancy in infrastructure throughout the country, in terms of sewage treatment plants, hydro-electric facilities, water pumping stations, oil refineries, etc. It is important to recognize that the various infrastructural crises are non-partisan in nature, given that both major political parties have done little to rectify the dismal status quo."
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"The failure of the rescue infrastructure in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina is unequivocal verification of the stresses resulting from insufficient rescue manpower, rescue equipment shortages, and inadequate rescue facilities in a society that prioritizes a vacuous Cult of Celebrity."
keevay, New Orleans, like every major city, has some type of emergency plan/protocol for disaster(s). If a city refuses to use their plan(or some common sense and preparation)or their citizens refuse to evacuate, that will present a severe stress on the rescue resourses of any city.
Hmmm...So is the protest is over what the city council is voting on? Isn't the city council voted in by the citizens of the town/locality/neighborhood? Would it not be more constructive for the citizens to vote out the current members of the council and vote in a council which listens to their citizens?
To me, that's where the term "sell-out". comes in, evilload. Politicians promise things all the time. Once they're in office, usually they're singing a different tune.
Thats the term I was looking for. Thanks trees! So its their own elected citizens who screwed them over. I guess it would do no good to vote them out to replace them with other sell-outs.
No doubt. How many politicians can you trust today? Really? Too many hands in the corporate jar. Unfortunately, we cannot decide for ourselves how our tax dollars are spend.
You can't stand toe-to-toe with me on any of the social issues we have discussed and these buildings will most likely be demolished. You don't understand debate at all.
But we're getting off the subject. I repeat: Email Ray Nagin! He is the only one that can help your losing cause. Argue with him, it would be more constructive than losing to me all day.
Your all idiots. event the ones who see some wrong dont understand what it is that is really wrong. cant wait for their time to be on the bottom. none of them will know what to do except cry for their mommy. stock pile-food,vitamins, weapons/ammo, and a plan to get out of the way. even racist idiots have an opinion of here.
bigc028282 2 years ago
These people were bear sprayed for doing nothing!!! Sure, they ripped open the fence and grabbed police officers... SO WHAT!!! They were bear sprayed for being BLACK!!! RACIST COPS!!
Zodiac289 2 years ago
so the white people who were sprayed were black? How many cops were black? Its not a race thing. Its an economic thing. "they" dont care what color you are anymore.
bigc028282 2 years ago
gee well let me see stop acting like apes and calm down and follow the law and you wont get tazed OHHHH WOW NO WAY!?!?!
atomickilla 3 years ago
People helping people. Governments are of no assistance......apparently.
zekeandcharlie 3 years ago
that bitch was faking it.
hellahyphyyyyyy 4 years ago
I dont care if those peoples live in mold infested rat holes. I think its funny. I just like the idea of kicking them out and turning those turdholes into luxury condos that none of them can afford. It might make them a little happier. You know give them something to complain about.
jeeyaz 4 years ago
What a pussy azz protest.
jeeyaz 4 years ago
These are NOT hippie protesters.GOVERNMENT FOR AND BY THE PEOPLE IS AN IDEA THAT DIES HARD BUT IT IS BEING MURDERED IN NEW ORLEANS. I GREW UP IN NEW ORLEANS AND I HAD FRIENDS IN THE PROJECTS! ALL PEOPLE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING. But NOBODY BUT RICH WHITE YUPPIES will be able to afford to live there now.
joeocho88 4 years ago
these people are hippie freaks, you gangster hillbilly wannabe
290275290275 4 years ago
They ARE professional protester hippie types, and they are not trying to make it only affordable to rich people.
Look, you aren't SUPPOSED to saty in projects. It's supposed to be temporary. The rest of us have to struggle to survive. Did you see the woman with luxury items in her house saying she couldn't kame rent, but wouldn't sell her luxuries because she doesn't have to live poor just because she is poor? That kind of attitude is sickening.
hurricanesly 3 years ago
I love how they are shaking the gate screaming "let us in", and then when the gate busts open they all just stand there. Doesn't seem like they really wanted to get in. Looks like they were more interested in just yelling about it.
Seems like they outnumbered the cops and the door was open...why were they screaming "Let us in" instead of "Let's go in"?
All you idiots are doing is putting your faces on camera so they can keep a file on you in their new biometric database.
bobjonesjames 4 years ago
You werent even there. You think just because you saw this footage, you know every single detail that occured enough to call them "idiots". Shut the fuck up.
Xproletariatx 4 years ago 2
Well, did it work?
Are they stopping the demolition? Did they care about how you felt about it?
They don't care about what you think. They don't represent you. They represent the rich. Protesting is meaningless. The only reason this country allows it is so that "radicals" can blow off some steam so they won't actually DO anything.
That's why democracy is so effective. You seem to have fallen into the trap.
bobjonesjames 4 years ago
If that's democracy, then it needs a overhaul. N.O. City Council will all have to answer to God for what they allowing to take place. And against their own (citizens). New Orleans will never recover if the culture isn't preserved. Thank you "Uncle Tom" Nagin and the city council.
NoSellOuts 4 years ago
It is democracy. A democratic government is a GOVERNMENT -- meaning a body that governs people. They don't listen to what you say. You listen to what they say. That's how governments work, democratic, socialist, or fascist. You people need to wake up and realize that protesting to politicians is never going to fix ANYTHING. They probably just went to Emeril's afterwards and laughed about it all over cocktails...
bobjonesjames 4 years ago
Are you kidding? Did you miss 90% of the video? They were threatened to be tasered - and sprayed with pepper gas or whatever that was. And seeing this agression in those eyes of some of the cops...
I'm sure you know how you would have reacted there in that situation for sure... well, just do it. Lead the way next time.
tokotokotoko3 4 years ago
Viva la Revolucion...unless someone threatens us. Then we'll all calm down and do what we're told.
The fact that they're threatening you, just shows how much they don't care. It is further proof that protesting is a waste of your time.
bobjonesjames 4 years ago
"They were threatened to be tasered - and sprayed with pepper gas or whatever that was"
No. They were told to back off the fence, and refused, THEN they were threatened with all of that which the police HAVE to do if the idiots can't remain orderly. Sorry you don't like law and order, but that's how it is. Maybe you can go somewhere that anarchy rules.
hurricanesly 3 years ago
i couldn't have said it better..great tharnax
redbullrich 4 years ago
Finally, something will be done about the permanent welfare class in New Orleans. This may actually turn around the urban areas. Give the local economy a chance to flourish, get rid of the trash and bums.
tharnax 4 years ago
You, tharnax, are one of the "permanent welfare class", with lots of privilege and access to capital, a healthy income of the backs of others and all despite your obvious bigotry, hatred, racism and total lack of intelligence and talent ~ Real critical thinking there in your assessment Bubba~ real compassion for your neighbors ~ Oh! That's right the poor are not your neighbors ~ save your opinions for gated elite white St. Tammany enclave
SneakinSal 4 years ago
Every American has access to capital, are you telling me that a person with a job cannot get a Credit Card? Stupid. If you think I make a living off the backs of the poor, then think again fool! I have to work and pull my own weight just like every other person in America. You are right about one thing: I would never be neighbors with trash like this. My kids live in a safe neighborhood and go to a nice private school, thank God.
tharnax 4 years ago
Where did you go to school? Please let me know so I can be sure not to send my kids to the 'School of Limited Bigoted Mentality'.
I seriously doubt you actually work. But I have no doubt there are many others, more intelligent & hardworking, that are propping up your mean-spirited ass......
We're all real impressed with you.....
So, I am assuming we can rest assured that you won't buy one the market-rate homes in HUD's Hope VI new 'mixed-income' developments? Right?
SneakinSal 4 years ago
some people just like o protest, important or not
flying45rabbit 4 years ago
See the video "levee failure?" here on youtube. Those levees were blown.
NoSellOuts 4 years ago 2
Of course it was, because if you see something on youtube because you can count on it being true.
jarvis1211 4 years ago
The video wasn't created by youtube, so is this your way of trying to have a smart answer? The bombing of the levees has happened before. Get the book by John M. Barry entitled Rising Tide: The Great Mississippi Flood of 1927 and how it Changed America, 1997 which has incidentally become heavily in demand after Katrina.
NoSellOuts 4 years ago
my answer is directed to jarvis1211.
NoSellOuts 4 years ago
Tell them mother's the deal much love!!!!!
blusk119 4 years ago
UGH. I don't need to be there to know the substandard levees broke as a direct result of the hurricane (i.e. nature).
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
thank you. you weren't. you made my point!
iyarah 4 years ago 2
What point?
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
that you don't know what you're talking about. I'm a witness, sir! my family's witnesses. two days after the storm passed the levees broke. power was down, so unless you had a battery-operated radio, no one knew the levees broke. the sun broked and it appeared all was good.
iyarah 4 years ago 2
to not be there and base your assessments only on the History Channel isn't a strong argument against those such as myself who were there to witness this horrific event! You wasn't there and want to argue with me? and I'm a N.O. survivor? that's my point!!!
iyarah 4 years ago 2
I'm done with you. You haven't said a thing about the investigation and have the nerve to argue with an New Orleanian about what actually happened?! Please!
iyarah 4 years ago 2
I haven't had the chance to read the investigation yet. I've been trying to eat my lunch and argue with you about weather or not the levees broke as a direct result of Katrina. I do agree however, we're done. You've allowed your emotions to overpower your capacity for rational debate.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
You refute my logic based on the fact that I was not an eyewitness. My logic being, the levees broke as a direct result of hurricane Katrina. Therefore, according to you, the levees were going to break on that day anyway regardless of the weather. Am I correct? Is that what you think?
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
ONE MORE TIME, KATRINA BROKE THE LEVEES!!! Whether it hit "directly" or not. You're right the devastation could've been worse. An asteroid could've slammed into the Convention Center during the storm, killing everyone.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
were you there?
iyarah 4 years ago
it didn't hit us!
iyarah 4 years ago
an asteroid? nothing can withstand an asteroid hit. Katrina did not strike my city! I was there!
iyarah 4 years ago
What caused the levees to break?
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
WERE YOU THERE?
iyarah 4 years ago
the damage you've seen on cable were from the results of the levee breaks!
iyarah 4 years ago
Katrina hit and everyone said "look how horrible, just as they predicted". They have those Discover/History Channel "Disaster" shows for a reason. They're real threats.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
ONE MORE TIME, KATRINA DID NOT HIT NEW ORLEANS!!! Get it!!! I was there taking cover at my place of employment in the FQ! You wasn't there, UA374!
iyarah 4 years ago 2
the hurricane turned just in time. we got a lot of wind and rain, yes! from the outer wall of the storm. we were not directly hit. had that happened, the devastation would be worst.
iyarah 4 years ago 2
Actually the bulk of the rain and wind damage happens on the West side of Hurricanes (and Tornadoes). The Levees broke because all the rain and storm surge that went on land was trying to get back to sea...the levees were slowing the process and as everyone know Nature wins all battles!
RecceMan90 4 years ago
So the weather channel and all the news stations were faking what was going on?
RecceMan90 4 years ago
You're free to live wherever you want. But if you live in places like N.O., the Caribbeans, S.F., or coastal Indonesia you assume a certain level of risk.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
N.O. will slip away into obscurity.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
and what do you think of the investigation?
iyarah 4 years ago
I hate to say this but, New Orleans will ultimately suffer the same fate as Galveston, Texas.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
No one should build housing (public or private) below sea level for the same reasons you shouldn't build housing next to an active volcano. What would happen if yet another hurricane destroys New Orleans after they rebuild? Would they all move back AGAIN? That would be a colossal defiance of reason and sound judgment.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
again not all of new orleans is below sea level. it's a fact. according to your logic, no one should live in N.O. or the caribbeans (hurricanes),or San Fransisco (quakes), or Indonesia (tsunami),etc.
iyarah 4 years ago 2
iyarah. where could I find more on this Alphonzo Jackson thing? I'm interested.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
just google his name and fbi investigation.
iyarah 4 years ago
just google his name and FBI investigation
iyarah 4 years ago
They're trying to shape forces of nature.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
Why are they required to build levees in the first place?
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
that's what our gov't appointed, I guess. don't know much about COE's history, but they're responsible. just like the gov't responsible of our bridges as well. and you saw the results of that.
iyarah 4 years ago
What would cause substandard levees to fail?
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
mismanagement of gov't money on a local/state/federal levels and the Army Corps are to blame.
iyarah 4 years ago
and lack of gov't funding for our wetlands...
iyarah 4 years ago
iyarah. Your arguments may be valid and I certainly appreciate you compassion, but you've overlooked the one factor that has influenced this situation the most. This is what happens when a category 5 HURRICANE clouts a city below sea level. New Orleans has essentially been completely destroyed along with many areas along the gulf coast (we never hear of strangely enough).
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
ugly,
reason being, and I'm sure iyarah will agree with me on THIS one, people think it was the hurricane that destroyed most of N.O. this is false! It was failure of the levees that devistated N.O and the metro area. Something that could have been prevented if the COE would've done their jobs correctly
Knightfell 4 years ago 2
yup! we weren't hit at all.
iyarah 4 years ago 2
and not all of N.O. is under sea level.
iyarah 4 years ago 2
"HANO's accounting department is a mess. Staffers deposit funds to the wrong accounts, in incorrect amounts and fail to provide a basic level of documentation and accountability.
"The HANO inspection process is a joke. The standards vary from inspector to inspector, and many criteria for immediate failure are petty and unsupported by national building codes... Nathaniel Phillips - New Orleans
iyarah 4 years ago 2
HANO is recognized as perhaps the most dysfunctional public housing program in the US -- & HUD has been running it for years. Most of the already overworked and underpaid pre-Katrina HANO staff were let go and the few current employees are terribly overworked.
iyarah 4 years ago 2
another myth/lie: People do not want to come back to New Orleans. There are hundreds of vacant empty subsidized apartments just waiting for people to move in -- no one wants to take them.
iyarah 4 years ago
FACT: At various times over the past 2 years, HUD and HANO have proclaimed that they had hundreds of vacant traditional public housing units ready to be occupied but people just did not want to come home.
Each time, these numbers were revealed to be false numbers and gross overstatements. For apartments which actually are made available, the delays in filling those much fewer apartments were because of bureaucratic guidelines and dysfunction at HANO.
iyarah 4 years ago
HANO first offers the available apartment to its previous occupant (who is also told that they can wait for the mythical promised new apartments) -- a process that usually takes 60 days; then the apartments are offered for a period of time to a select list held by HANO; only after that entire process are they offered to the displaced people from other developments.
iyarah 4 years ago
Try goggles the next time!
usergently 4 years ago
OMG you poor misinformed people!
* People are not losing homes.. read the motion that was passed.
*Those people were not residents of lafitte, st benard etc.
*They already tore down and errected 2 developments on the west bank. the residents couldn't be more happy (proof is on MLK in Algiers).
* The meeting was a FULL capacity they could not let anyone else in.
*finally you couldn't give a rats ass about us 2 1/2 years ago now you have concern? FU we don't need it!
Knightfell 4 years ago
nope you are informed, knight. MYTH: There really is no housing problem, it is just outside agitators who are making it seem like New Orleans has a housing problem.
iyarah 4 years ago
I meant uninformed
iyarah 4 years ago
FACT:
In December 2007, the national research group POLICYLINK issued a report "FEWER HOMES FOR KATRINA'S POOREST VICTIMS -- An analysis of subsidized homes in post-Katrina New Orleans." The report concluded that HUD and HANO have only approved resources to restore a third of the pre-Katrina stock of subsidized homes in New Orleans.
iyarah 4 years ago
iyarah, there's housing problems all over the country.. take a trip to DC. That's not my point. My point is people are babbling without knowing all the facts. I sure hope you've read the motion passed. If not, here's a briefing:
* permenant vouchers
* 1 to 1 construction (with every affordable house demo's HUD MUST replace)
* some existing units MUST be renovated for living while other construction is ongoing.
Knightfell 4 years ago
I'm hip to what's taking place in DC, ATL, Oakland, Chi-town. And people like you are babbling. and you're foolish to think they this plan will work as the city council presented. HUD/City Council/Nagin are all part of this gentrification plan that's been in effect for over 20 yrs.
iyarah 4 years ago
you don't walk over or mock the poor. it's ungodly and will be punishable under GOD's laws.
iyarah 4 years ago
iyarah,
this is equal to a binding contract..
these stipulations MUST be met, there's no getting around them. In fact HUD HAS to prove they can meet all what's required before they even get the permits.
Knightfell 4 years ago
it's an illegal transaction. remember, HUD's Alphozo Jackson is currently under federal investigation for this and handing out private, non-bidding contracts to his friends and business associates.
iyarah 4 years ago
check policylink's report and see the truth for yourself.
iyarah 4 years ago
Don't get me wrong I am for affordable housing. People need homes. But can we humanely send these people back to substandard dwellings? Would you feel better knowing that you sent these people back to the slums they lived in previously? Those people are living 10x better in other states, you think they'd move back to a downgrade?
Knightfell 4 years ago
have you checked the report yet?
iyarah 4 years ago
have you checked out justice for new orleans web site?
iyarah 4 years ago
what about faith-based groups like the episcopal church website? care to see what they reported?
iyarah 4 years ago
yeah, thats why there's also the "board" clause in the motion. The guy is going to do time for sure. But, even if I were against this as you are, where would we get the funding to renovate the current projects? HUD won't fund it because they are death traps. Our ONLY option for funded affordable housing is to meet the federal standards and these structures don't and can't meet them.
Knightfell 4 years ago
he's amole. several protesters claim this guy's always at some demonstration/protests trying to agitate. he's probably in NOPD HQ's plotting his next move.and check the report from policylink if you truly want an answer for funding. and renovating would be less expensive.
iyarah 4 years ago
and those buildings weren't "death-traps' before HUD took over yrs. ago.
iyarah 4 years ago
oh come on! St Benard, Desire, Lafitte were all substandard even when they were built! There were even talks if they should even be built. HUD had nothing to do with that. Have you been to MLK in Algiers? It's the base model of what's going up downtown. If not, Go see and talk to the peeps there.
Knightfell 4 years ago
YES! or have you forgotten what city I'm from. and have you check the reports yet?
iyarah 4 years ago
Ok so you seen the model, then why are you against this? You've seen the rise of self esteem these people have, and you are against this? You've asked them if they rather their own homes, and yet you are against this?
Knightfell 4 years ago
wrong again. I'm not against this, so stop assuming. the materials used to build these new homes I wouldn't use on my own home. it's cheap. see it for yourself. now about the report...
iyarah 4 years ago
and what I mean is I'm not against the "rise of self esteem these people have", yet I didn't see this. All I saw was frustration.
iyarah 4 years ago
and those buildings were built to last. that's why it's still standing today. and have you seen the homes that replaced the Desire after the flood? uninhabitable and it couldn't withstand the water with its cheap lumber. and this this the model HUD wants to use.
iyarah 4 years ago
ok so wait, sorry, let me get us on the same page here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but what you are saying is that you are not against the rebuilding, you are against the assumption of how and what they are being built?
Knightfell 4 years ago
I'm against the gentrification of the poor. Especially towards minorities. I am against the demolition. those buildings can be renovated at a lesser cost to the city. but that's never been a factor since it's all about removing the poor from the downtown areas so that middle/upper class can take over.
iyarah 4 years ago
maybe if HUH/HANO was legit, but that's not the case...
iyarah 4 years ago
No sorry, I'm a contractor, there is no way those buildings can be renovated for less. The outer structure IS sound. But in order to get them up to federal standards they would need to be Completely gutted. You have asbestos insulation, under par electric and plumbing, I'm not so much worried about the lead paint that easily cured. ventallation is terrible ductwork would have to be totally redone. not to mention the new ordinance about base height.
Knightfell 4 years ago
we going to have to disagree on that.
iyarah 4 years ago
and there were architects that actually did renovated a few apts. with very little money to boot. then the cops threw them out, but they made their point.
iyarah 4 years ago
and if what you say about these buildings not able to renovate, than explain why some of the Iberville was renovated and now tenants reside there again?
iyarah 4 years ago
iberville is in 4th and there was no significant damage to them. We have a chance with these to do them over and do them correctly this time.
Knightfell 4 years ago
yes they did everything correctly except for one thing, they neglected to raise the housing to the ordinated height put out by the COE
Knightfell 4 years ago
Well we can both agree these people need appropriate housing. I just think we differ on the way we should go about it.
Knightfell 4 years ago
well cool. but I cannot stand those ignorant people with their "BUMS', "welfare-recipiant", "drug-addict" remarks. Crime has risen even more in post-Katrina. can't say it's because of the projects now. Crime is everywhere, and it's unfair to judge. Hard-working folks lived in those projects as well.
iyarah 4 years ago
and that's why i went after tharnax.
iyarah 4 years ago
I totally agree. the ignorance on BOTH sides of the issue is our problem. People want to rant just to rant. People resort to name calling because they have no relevant statement to say. I love our city and it's people. We as TRUE New Orleaneans need to come together and try to find a mutual solution.
Knightfell 4 years ago
thank you. we can debate, but don't come here with some foolishness.
iyarah 4 years ago
I don't think either of us came here with foolishness. I just think our messages are being muffled by people who don't know or who don't want to know.
Knightfell 4 years ago
or don't care to know. yeah, you're right.
iyarah 4 years ago
I went to the website yes, still trying to cypher through everything.
Knightfell 4 years ago
good. come back when you're done because arguing with me without the knowledge is counter-productive.
iyarah 4 years ago
btw just read through policylink, very informative, but can you direct me to where these figures came from.. really interested to know.
Knightfell 4 years ago
justice for new orleans (.org)web site has more info. somehow youtube won't allow you to post up links. why, I don't know...
iyarah 4 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
Thanks, and happy holidays!
Knightfell 4 years ago
and while you're checking out the sites I've mentioned, look into HUD and Alphonzo Jackson's investigation. even more reason not to trust them or our city gov't.
iyarah 4 years ago
oh, Atty. Bill Quigley can be reached at Quigley@loyno (.edu) for more info or if anyone wants to dispute his findings. should have mentioned this earlier, but some folks may not take a liking to him.
iyarah 4 years ago
The citizens are greater than the tyranny of the few. Protests like this, direct confrontation between citizens and money, citizens and institutions, will become more common, not more rare.
Down with the tyranny of elites! Down with it now!
UnitedOffensiveIII 4 years ago 4
thank you. every historical revolution was based on land. and this continues today. was there violence involved in these revolutions? yes!
iyarah 4 years ago
You're both right (iyarah and tharnax). It's not the role of government to provide for its citizens. The role of government is to ensure its citizens have equal opportunity to provide for themselves. It's the role of CITIZENSHIP that obligates us to take care of our fellow Americans in distress (i.e. churches, synagogues, secular charities, private donations, fundraisers, pro-bono, etc.) as they are, and always will be, OUR FELLOW AMERICANS.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
Appreciate your constructive response. You are quite correct, government continues to fail to reduce poverty. Private citizens are much more effective at helping the poor in the short-term.
tharnax 4 years ago
The govt doesnt have a problem with corporate welfare. The corporations have more rights and oppurutinities then People. We have a energy bill that helps the oil companys make money. Everything is regualted by the govt, people werent poor when they openly tradeing and were paid a fair wage. its a fact that they favor stocks over wages so eventualy the dollar will be worthless to keep stock prises up ad rich people rich.
staxbrix 4 years ago 3
and that's the bottom line. look, I went after tharnax because the people are standing up for their rights as citizens of N.O. and the U.S. and all he can do is post negative comments. At least 3 people bet. the 3 protest videos (not including myself) got on this person for the same thing. Shouldn't mock the poor.
iyarah 4 years ago
not when you don't give as damn, like yourself tharnax!
iyarah 4 years ago
Telling your local government not to tear down public housing is like telling a compass not to point North. Once the opportunity for gentrification presents itself, it's inexorable.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
we're taxpayers, aren't we? where are we? in the U.S.S.R.? shut up and do nothing? it's not right by any means.
iyarah 4 years ago
Truth be told iyarah, they will never rebuild public housing to accommodate even pre-Katrina levels. They'll rebuild just enough to say that they have. They will take advantage of the diaspora of government dependency and develop blighted areas to attract a more affluent demographic as tharnax has stated. Development companies make millions, local officials line their pockets, and the city eventually achieves greater tax revenue as a result.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
so uglyAmerican..Where are the poor people in your equation? I mean, where are the poor supposed to go? Are they supposed to just lay down and wait to die in the street? What kind of a system is this? It is just a shame what I see going on New Orleans and all the other poor communities in America..
zizazi10 4 years ago 2
zizazi10. "where are the poor supposed to go?" Well, according to New Orleans, anywhere but there. Thats not an argument in support of their decision by the way. I cant imagine enduring that kind of hardship but its reality.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
Poor people suck ass, I'm not responsible for them. You are! So let them stay at your house, or shut your ass up! :)
tharnax 4 years ago
What kind of a christmas spirit is this, tharnax? Did you forget it is christmas...Be nice to your fellow human being. Why do you say poor people suck? It is nasty and unkind and shows how vulger and ignorant you are..
zizazi10 4 years ago 3
but does that make it right? and why call a groups of people 'bums'?
iyarah 4 years ago 2
I feel most folks who are here posting counter-productive, negative comments don't want the citizens of N.O. to stand up, zizazi10. They do want the poor to lie down in defeat and die. We've seen the comments. No heart, some of them. Well I hope all of them enjoy their Christmas holiday.
iyarah 4 years ago 2
iyarah. I'm not trying to be negative or apathetic in anyway. I'm simply calling attention to the reality of this situation.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago 2
I'm being negative. BUMS suck ass, and they should all stay at iyarah's house! Problem solved ! Hurrah!!!
tharnax 4 years ago
since you're admitting who you really are, a worthless, cold-hearted imp, keep my name and my d#@k out your mouth, punk!
iyarah 4 years ago
asking people to comment on our dispute to garnish sympathy for yourself, then mock the poor with your ridiculous racist comments. I'll address you from here on as I've just done, if at all. You've proven your adgenda, agitator!
iyarah 4 years ago
Did you let these worthless crackheads move into your house yet? That's real activism! How about you just support them until they die? Even better.
tharnax 4 years ago
What you people don't realize is that the people that were raiding the gates paved the way for the pepper spray and the mace that ensued. It was not the fault of the officers or the people on the outskirts, it was the fault of the people who jumped the gates, and yanked on them, forcing the officers to use "neccessary force!" New Orleanians should have more common sense than to f*** with the police.
mezzoloo 4 years ago
if you look closely at the video, only white agitators and possible moles were shaking the gates. they started this yet the one guy with the long grey hair/beard was handled quite differently from the others. he was neither pepper sprayed nor tased, yet he got inside with the help of the police (nice touch putting him in cuffs to give the appearance of arresting the guy).
iyarah 4 years ago
Leftist retardation knows no color. You are a perfect example!
tharnax 4 years ago
How can anyone complain about free housing?
jarvis1211 4 years ago
they're not because there isn't free housing. the residences' rent was based on a sliding scale to coincide with the pay wages. anyone who's from N.O. knows that 3-4 yrs. ago hotels workers picketed to create new unions and better pay. the city council in their way (again)and it never materialize.
iyarah 4 years ago
Its a hell of a lot better than a mortage, get off the governments tit. They should have torn down those houses 40 years ago.
jarvis1211 4 years ago
Exactly. All these BUMS should go and stay at iyarah's house !
tharnax 4 years ago
And Video 3, check my comments there also.
tharnax 4 years ago
they should.
iyarah 4 years ago
Many people who come to this video may notice the previous argument between myself and iyarah. Please read the entire discussion and form your own opinions about our positions as well as who is addressing the core problems that this video refers to. Thank You for watching YouTube.
tharnax 4 years ago
and also check the comments left by tharnax in video one of the protest.
iyarah 4 years ago
HA. You're actually advertising COMMENTS from another video. Priceless. I can't wait to read them. Do you guys offer any guarantee? If I read these comments and find them either absurd, erroneous, or redundant will you promise never to comment again?
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
Well iyarah and tharnax, I subscribed myself to your recommendation and reviewed your previous comments. I read compelling arguments such as "you talk too much shit" and inspiring rebuttals such as "you're not as good a name-caller as I am!" To describe your intellectual debate as "spellbinding" would be an understatement. I now have a splitting headache and I'm holding you both accountable to reimburse me for medical expenses I incurred as a result. You both owe me two Tylenol.
UglyAmerican0374 4 years ago
drink warn milk instead...
iyarah 4 years ago
Two words: Molotov cocktail
WerdKemist 4 years ago
Yankee cops trying to blind people again. Next time they start spraying, rush them and take their freaking eyes out with your fingers. Yankees are all evangelicals right?, So you're all religious freaks anyway, pull an eye-for-an-eye on them, this passive resistance crap doesn't work on death cults and sadists. Of course Yankees are all cowards so we can't expect you to stand up for your own rights let alone ours, you all deserved it, work harder next time.
PsychoticusRex 4 years ago
Rex, isnt the eye-for-an-eye theory actually a Babylonian one (King Hammurabi), not an evangelical one(religious freaks)?
evilload 4 years ago
LOL! good one, e!
trees4days 4 years ago
PRAYER FOR AMERICA....the Controversial Video from Mysterious CATMAN COHEN
"I am essentially an existentialist, strongly influenced by the writings of Sartre and Camus. I believe that every instant of time is unique and discrete. Tomorrow need not resemble today in any way shape or form. What that means is that, no matter how wonderful life may be today, we all stand on the cusp of disaster...and it is important to be social activists who take measures that preclude tragedies from occurring."
KeevayMusic 4 years ago 2
PRAYER FOR AMERICA....the Controversial Video from Mysterious CATMAN COHEN
"Artists today need to re-examine their priorities. The mindless party has gone on long enough and, if the chronic infrastructural deterioration is not addressed shortly, then we will have the opportunity to dance our lives away upon the deck of a sinking ship."
KeevayMusic 4 years ago 2
PRAYER FOR AMERICA....the Controversial Video from Mysterious CATMAN COHEN
"The country has no dearth of sports stadiums, concert venues, nightclubs, amusement parks, shopping malls, movie theaters, golf courses, and other facilities dedicated toward hedonism and consumerism. Yet, in terms of hospitals, firestations, schools, soldiers' barracks, police stations, etc., there is hardly a community today that is not in a state of alarming deficit."
KeevayMusic 4 years ago 2
I feel you here!
trees4days 4 years ago 2
PRAYER FOR AMERICA...the Controversial Video from Mysterious CATMAN COHEN
"Moreover, the New Orleans tragedy has shone a spotlight upon the lack of redundancy in infrastructure throughout the country, in terms of sewage treatment plants, hydro-electric facilities, water pumping stations, oil refineries, etc. It is important to recognize that the various infrastructural crises are non-partisan in nature, given that both major political parties have done little to rectify the dismal status quo."
KeevayMusic 4 years ago 2
PRAYER FOR AMERICA....the Controversial Video from Mysterious CATMAN COHEN
"The failure of the rescue infrastructure in New Orleans in the aftermath of Katrina is unequivocal verification of the stresses resulting from insufficient rescue manpower, rescue equipment shortages, and inadequate rescue facilities in a society that prioritizes a vacuous Cult of Celebrity."
KeevayMusic 4 years ago 2
keevay, New Orleans, like every major city, has some type of emergency plan/protocol for disaster(s). If a city refuses to use their plan(or some common sense and preparation)or their citizens refuse to evacuate, that will present a severe stress on the rescue resourses of any city.
evilload 4 years ago
Hmmm...So is the protest is over what the city council is voting on? Isn't the city council voted in by the citizens of the town/locality/neighborhood? Would it not be more constructive for the citizens to vote out the current members of the council and vote in a council which listens to their citizens?
evilload 4 years ago 2
To me, that's where the term "sell-out". comes in, evilload. Politicians promise things all the time. Once they're in office, usually they're singing a different tune.
trees4days 4 years ago 2
Thats the term I was looking for. Thanks trees! So its their own elected citizens who screwed them over. I guess it would do no good to vote them out to replace them with other sell-outs.
evilload 4 years ago 2
No doubt. How many politicians can you trust today? Really? Too many hands in the corporate jar. Unfortunately, we cannot decide for ourselves how our tax dollars are spend.
trees4days 4 years ago 2
You can't stand toe-to-toe with me on any of the social issues we have discussed and these buildings will most likely be demolished. You don't understand debate at all.
But we're getting off the subject. I repeat: Email Ray Nagin! He is the only one that can help your losing cause. Argue with him, it would be more constructive than losing to me all day.
tharnax 4 years ago
you're talking shit....
iyarah 4 years ago
and dense since you're on repeat
iyarah 4 years ago
you still haven't explain what political/social groups you're a member of, shit talker. keep climbing..eventually you'll reach my level.
iyarah 4 years ago
and you can't debate me. only those on my level can. I'm active, you're not. bottom line...
iyarah 4 years ago